a****a
发帖数: 5763 | 1 说thinkpad烂，总得头脑清醒点再说吧，拿硬盘说事真是太糙但了
你要是thinkpad上的硬盘坏三次，搁别的牌子上恐怕十次都有了
至于散热，不客气地说，thinkpad T系列的散热设计这十年来一直是最好的，hp
和dell 这两个给thinkpad提鞋都不配
这年头213真多 |
p*******9
发帖数: 1860 | 2 7行标准键盘变成了6行乱排“贱盘”。
屏幕是所有笔记本中最烂的。
The deal has been killed. |
p***l
发帖数: 1775 | 3 说别人213之前不会看看原贴说的是什么系列？
我看你才真是213或者S13？
【在 a****a 的大作中提到】
: 说thinkpad烂，总得头脑清醒点再说吧，拿硬盘说事真是太糙但了
: 你要是thinkpad上的硬盘坏三次，搁别的牌子上恐怕十次都有了
: 至于散热，不客气地说，thinkpad T系列的散热设计这十年来一直是最好的，hp
: 和dell 这两个给thinkpad提鞋都不配
: 这年头213真多
|
j***f
发帖数: 3610 | 4 键盘就是一个习惯的问题，我觉得挺好，不像之前老款那么容易存灰了，按键也更大
要说手感，苹果什么的真的是太差了 |
c******y
发帖数: 3269 | 5 发觉我特受不了人胡说八道, LOL
说thinkpad烂，总得头脑清醒点再说吧，拿硬盘说事真是太糙但了
你要是thinkpad上的硬盘坏三次，搁别的牌子上恐怕十次都有了
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
OEM, none of lenovo's business or any manufacture else
至于散热，不客气地说，thinkpad T系列的散热设计这十年来一直是最好的，hp
和dell 这两个给thinkpad提鞋都不配
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
14 inch line, T430, has no advantage over Dell Latitude or HP Elitebook
15 inch line, T530, is better than same level Dell Latitude or HP Elitebook,
due to shared design of W530
15 inch line, W530 has no advantage over 8570W/M4700 |
s*********e
发帖数: 1051 | 6 latitude散热真的很差。
Elitebook,
【在 c******y 的大作中提到】
: 发觉我特受不了人胡说八道, LOL
: 说thinkpad烂，总得头脑清醒点再说吧，拿硬盘说事真是太糙但了
: 你要是thinkpad上的硬盘坏三次，搁别的牌子上恐怕十次都有了
: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
: OEM, none of lenovo's business or any manufacture else
: 至于散热，不客气地说，thinkpad T系列的散热设计这十年来一直是最好的，hp
: 和dell 这两个给thinkpad提鞋都不配
: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
: 14 inch line, T430, has no advantage over Dell Latitude or HP Elitebook
: 15 inch line, T530, is better than same level Dell Latitude or HP Elitebook,
|
j***f
发帖数: 3610 | 7
确实，手头的E6410相当热
【在 s*********e 的大作中提到】
: latitude散热真的很差。
:
: Elitebook,
|
c******y
发帖数: 3269 | 8 Which model?
E6430, 8570P, and T430 are pretty much the same level in 散热
【在 s*********e 的大作中提到】
: latitude散热真的很差。
:
: Elitebook,
|
s****c
发帖数: 11300 | 9 你这个说的有点过分了
thinkpad采购的硬盘也是日历希婕西数这些的 也没有什么特殊的产品质量检测手段 凭
啥故障率就比别人低？ 就从硬盘角度来讲 我觉得现在西数希婕两大家故障率没有什么
明显区别 其实也就是说全世界的主流机械硬盘故障率都差不多
【在 a****a 的大作中提到】
: 说thinkpad烂，总得头脑清醒点再说吧，拿硬盘说事真是太糙但了
: 你要是thinkpad上的硬盘坏三次，搁别的牌子上恐怕十次都有了
: 至于散热，不客气地说，thinkpad T系列的散热设计这十年来一直是最好的，hp
: 和dell 这两个给thinkpad提鞋都不配
: 这年头213真多
|
g********x
发帖数: 7361 | 10 硬盘本身是没啥区别，不过硬盘之外的区别就大了
你是不是没用过TP啊？呵呵
【在 s****c 的大作中提到】
: 你这个说的有点过分了
: thinkpad采购的硬盘也是日历希婕西数这些的 也没有什么特殊的产品质量检测手段 凭
: 啥故障率就比别人低？ 就从硬盘角度来讲 我觉得现在西数希婕两大家故障率没有什么
: 明显区别 其实也就是说全世界的主流机械硬盘故障率都差不多
|
|
|
s*****b
发帖数: 4115 | 11 同感，才买几个月的机器，风扇响个没完，噪音比Ideapad Z580大，也比不上4年前的
T61（不过风扇要坏了）
下次不买latitude了，nnd
整整4年前买的T61用着还行，4年开机时间14081小时，平均每天开机9.6小时。唯一的
问题是风扇缺少润滑了，打算买个兼容风扇装上
【在 s*********e 的大作中提到】
: latitude散热真的很差。
:
: Elitebook,
|
s*****b
发帖数: 4115 | 12 TP有APS保护吧
【在 s****c 的大作中提到】
: 你这个说的有点过分了
: thinkpad采购的硬盘也是日历希婕西数这些的 也没有什么特殊的产品质量检测手段 凭
: 啥故障率就比别人低？ 就从硬盘角度来讲 我觉得现在西数希婕两大家故障率没有什么
: 明显区别 其实也就是说全世界的主流机械硬盘故障率都差不多
|
d*******o
发帖数: 5897 | 13 你这散热差的latitude是不是用的nvidia的gpu？
【在 s*********e 的大作中提到】
: latitude散热真的很差。
:
: Elitebook,
|
d********g
发帖数: 10550 | 14 屏幕是很烂，又暗又偏色。键盘真的还行，上手感觉不说比老款好，至少也是半斤八两
，只是乍一看心理上不好接受，特别是Enter键不是蓝色了。小红点没什么变化，但是
搭配的鼠标左右键更薄，手感比以前差一点
【在 p*******9 的大作中提到】
: 7行标准键盘变成了6行乱排“贱盘”。
: 屏幕是所有笔记本中最烂的。
: The deal has been killed.
|
s******s
发帖数: 13035 | 15 //nod. 你放个video，把TP一拿起来自动就会停，TP的硬盘保护挺明显的
【在 s*****b 的大作中提到】
: TP有APS保护吧
|
N*****m
发帖数: 42603 | 16 确实，HP都烂得出名了，居然还有人舔
为了摸黑联想无所不用啊
【在 a****a 的大作中提到】
: 说thinkpad烂，总得头脑清醒点再说吧，拿硬盘说事真是太糙但了
: 你要是thinkpad上的硬盘坏三次，搁别的牌子上恐怕十次都有了
: 至于散热，不客气地说，thinkpad T系列的散热设计这十年来一直是最好的，hp
: 和dell 这两个给thinkpad提鞋都不配
: 这年头213真多
|
c******y
发帖数: 3269 | 17 When you are comparing HP and Thinkpad, you are misled already
HP VS Lenovo, or Thinkpad VS Elitebook, that should be the case
【在 N*****m 的大作中提到】
: 确实，HP都烂得出名了，居然还有人舔
: 为了摸黑联想无所不用啊
|
i**e
发帖数: 6810 | 18 这个好像因人而异。苹果习惯之后还好，至少在台式机上我用水果键盘。
T400键盘跟过去相比也是缺斤短两的，手指头不小心能到上一排键下面去。
虽然还是比我曾经用过的Inspiron之类好多了。
【在 j***f 的大作中提到】
:
: 确实，手头的E6410相当热
|
a***e
发帖数: 27968 | 19 E4300 is worse than X220
E64xx is worse than T420
Elitebook is very heavy but 13" with DVD is good deal. too hot also.
almost as bad as 6year old X61s
【在 c******y 的大作中提到】
: Which model?
: E6430, 8570P, and T430 are pretty much the same level in 散热
|
a***e
发帖数: 27968 | 20 tp很长时间用的hitachi
不过tp的防震保护还是很有用的
俺公司tp被俺拧一个角走来走去6年没硬盘问题
【在 s****c 的大作中提到】
: 你这个说的有点过分了
: thinkpad采购的硬盘也是日历希婕西数这些的 也没有什么特殊的产品质量检测手段 凭
: 啥故障率就比别人低？ 就从硬盘角度来讲 我觉得现在西数希婕两大家故障率没有什么
: 明显区别 其实也就是说全世界的主流机械硬盘故障率都差不多
|
|
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b**l
发帖数: 33123 | 21 E64xx is better than T4xx
【在 a***e 的大作中提到】
: E4300 is worse than X220
: E64xx is worse than T420
: Elitebook is very heavy but 13" with DVD is good deal. too hot also.
: almost as bad as 6year old X61s
|
a***e
发帖数: 27968 | 22 这么说俺的64xx有问题？
【在 b**l 的大作中提到】
: E64xx is better than T4xx
|
r*******e
发帖数: 7583 | 23 HP就不要吹了
公司发的这个Elitebook 6930p
键盘烂的一比就不多说了，这个触摸式的音量控制和屏幕亮度调节从来就没稳定工作过
三天
发热没有特别厉害，代价是风扇一直在呼呼的吹没怎么停过
Elitebook,
【在 c******y 的大作中提到】
: 发觉我特受不了人胡说八道, LOL
: 说thinkpad烂，总得头脑清醒点再说吧，拿硬盘说事真是太糙但了
: 你要是thinkpad上的硬盘坏三次，搁别的牌子上恐怕十次都有了
: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
: OEM, none of lenovo's business or any manufacture else
: 至于散热，不客气地说，thinkpad T系列的散热设计这十年来一直是最好的，hp
: 和dell 这两个给thinkpad提鞋都不配
: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
: 14 inch line, T430, has no advantage over Dell Latitude or HP Elitebook
: 15 inch line, T530, is better than same level Dell Latitude or HP Elitebook,
|
b**l
发帖数: 33123 | 24 6420比6410更稳定点。年初我给我爸$600在outlet买了个新的，三年保修。现在在工地
上吃灰，没任何抱怨。
【在 a***e 的大作中提到】
: 这么说俺的64xx有问题？
|
c******y
发帖数: 3269 | 25 I've used 6930p for a while, if you compare it with T410, you won't find
T410 any better in 发热/风扇
Keyboard is subjective thing, you could have asked the company's PC support
team to solve the 触摸式的音量控制和屏幕亮度调节 if there is an issue,
instead of bearing it and whining, though I never has an issue with 触摸式的
音量控制和屏幕亮度调节
【在 r*******e 的大作中提到】
: HP就不要吹了
: 公司发的这个Elitebook 6930p
: 键盘烂的一比就不多说了，这个触摸式的音量控制和屏幕亮度调节从来就没稳定工作过
: 三天
: 发热没有特别厉害，代价是风扇一直在呼呼的吹没怎么停过
:
: Elitebook,
|
c******y
发帖数: 3269 | 26 E4300 is worse than X220
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
agree, and I think HP 12 inch model is better than x220
E64xx is worse than T420
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I don't think so
Elitebook is very heavy but 13" with DVD is good deal.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Elitebook 8460P is T420's competitor, similar weight/temp
【在 a***e 的大作中提到】
: E4300 is worse than X220
: E64xx is worse than T420
: Elitebook is very heavy but 13" with DVD is good deal. too hot also.
: almost as bad as 6year old X61s
|
a****a
发帖数: 5763 | 27 elite要对应 TS系列
T现在是以前的R系列
【在 c******y 的大作中提到】
: E4300 is worse than X220
: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
: agree, and I think HP 12 inch model is better than x220
: E64xx is worse than T420
: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
: I don't think so
: Elitebook is very heavy but 13" with DVD is good deal.
: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
: Elitebook 8460P is T420's competitor, similar weight/temp
|
a****a
发帖数: 5763 | 28 年前才买的，就别拿出来说事了吧
【在 b**l 的大作中提到】
: 6420比6410更稳定点。年初我给我爸$600在outlet买了个新的，三年保修。现在在工地
: 上吃灰，没任何抱怨。
|
x****u
发帖数: 865 | |
j***f
发帖数: 3610 | 30
感觉6420好丑。。还是6400和6410好一些
【在 b**l 的大作中提到】
: 6420比6410更稳定点。年初我给我爸$600在outlet买了个新的，三年保修。现在在工地
: 上吃灰，没任何抱怨。
|
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N*****m
发帖数: 42603 | 31 我用过compaq被hp收购后的nc系列，是商业级的吧
是我用过/买过所有的10多台laptop里面最烂的
这个根本不是借口，hp从来是各个laptop relibility统计里面垫底的
【在 c******y 的大作中提到】
: When you are comparing HP and Thinkpad, you are misled already
: HP VS Lenovo, or Thinkpad VS Elitebook, that should be the case
|
c******y
发帖数: 3269 | 32 compaq is disposed by HP since then, it's more like Lenovo 朝阳 series'
competitor
【在 N*****m 的大作中提到】
: 我用过compaq被hp收购后的nc系列，是商业级的吧
: 是我用过/买过所有的10多台laptop里面最烂的
: 这个根本不是借口，hp从来是各个laptop relibility统计里面垫底的
|
b**l
发帖数: 33123 | 33 照你这么说，T430今年买的是不是也别说事了？
工地
【在 a****a 的大作中提到】
: 年前才买的，就别拿出来说事了吧
|
b**l
发帖数: 33123 | 34 要讲好看的话，索尼的不错。
工地
【在 j***f 的大作中提到】
:
: 感觉6420好丑。。还是6400和6410好一些
|
N*****m
发帖数: 42603 | 35 谈不上吧，hp收购后，nc系列还出了好多年呢
【在 c******y 的大作中提到】
: compaq is disposed by HP since then, it's more like Lenovo 朝阳 series'
: competitor
|
c******y
发帖数: 3269 | 36 My bad, I mean compaq is treated as a second-class brand by HP
NC series is used to be Elitebook class before 收购, but HP's is not
encouraging competition within it's own sub-brands, so compaq is no longer
well-designed since then
【在 N*****m 的大作中提到】
: 谈不上吧，hp收购后，nc系列还出了好多年呢
|
N*****m
发帖数: 42603 | 37 总之是烂，甭管啥理由
【在 c******y 的大作中提到】
: My bad, I mean compaq is treated as a second-class brand by HP
: NC series is used to be Elitebook class before 收购, but HP's is not
: encouraging competition within it's own sub-brands, so compaq is no longer
: well-designed since then
|
m*****d
发帖数: 13718 | 38 还行，我的n600c用了5，6年
【在 N*****m 的大作中提到】
: 总之是烂，甭管啥理由
|
s****c
发帖数: 11300 | 39 现在所有的都有
实际上原来thinkpad主板上有加速度感应器 还有个软件 所以挺有用的
但是现在基本所有的温盘都自带加速感应器了 所以这个技术优势也没啥用了
跟不用说ssd硬盘了
【在 s*****b 的大作中提到】
: TP有APS保护吧
|
s****c
发帖数: 11300 | 40 这个版上用tp的比我多的 应该不超过10个
当年沸沸扬扬的飞线门 你们谁真的见过飞线长啥样？
【在 g********x 的大作中提到】
: 硬盘本身是没啥区别，不过硬盘之外的区别就大了
: 你是不是没用过TP啊？呵呵
|
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w***n
发帖数: 1613 | 41 自己飞过。。。。
【在 s****c 的大作中提到】
: 这个版上用tp的比我多的 应该不超过10个
: 当年沸沸扬扬的飞线门 你们谁真的见过飞线长啥样？
|
c******y
发帖数: 3269 | 42 compare compaq NC with Thinkpad, the possible conclusion is compaq NC <
Lenovo Thinkpad, not HP < Thinkpad
it's like compare Lenovo 朝阳 with Elitebook, it's not reasonalble to say
Lenovo sucks, but only 朝阳
【在 N*****m 的大作中提到】
: 总之是烂，甭管啥理由
|
N*****m
发帖数: 42603 | 43 nc是商用系列吧，不知道你说的朝阳是啥
而且，hp的商用系列跟lenovo全部笔记本的reliability差不多，足以说明很烂了
【在 c******y 的大作中提到】
: compare compaq NC with Thinkpad, the possible conclusion is compaq NC <
: Lenovo Thinkpad, not HP < Thinkpad
: it's like compare Lenovo 朝阳 with Elitebook, it's not reasonalble to say
: Lenovo sucks, but only 朝阳
|
s****c
发帖数: 11300 | 44 自己飞当然不算 呵呵
当年一股脑骂联想 说收了thinkpad以后thinkpad就不行了
我拆开看过 那个飞线完全符合工业标准 直角走线 塑胶固定
但是不管怎么说 飞线就是让人不爽是了
那批电脑一共也没多少台
【在 w***n 的大作中提到】
: 自己飞过。。。。
|
c******y
发帖数: 3269 | 45 There are two 商用系列 in HP: NC and Elitebook
There are two 商用系列 in Lenovo: 朝阳 and Thinkpad
"hp的商用系列跟lenovo全部笔记本的reliability", please kindly share the
source, thanks.
【在 N*****m 的大作中提到】
: nc是商用系列吧，不知道你说的朝阳是啥
: 而且，hp的商用系列跟lenovo全部笔记本的reliability差不多，足以说明很烂了
|
N*****m
发帖数: 42603 | 46 http://www.pcworld.com/article/244419/laptop_reliability_and_sa
【在 c******y 的大作中提到】
: There are two 商用系列 in HP: NC and Elitebook
: There are two 商用系列 in Lenovo: 朝阳 and Thinkpad
: "hp的商用系列跟lenovo全部笔记本的reliability", please kindly share the
: source, thanks.
|
N*****m
发帖数: 42603 | |
r******y
发帖数: 12263 | 48 这两点我觉得都好 散热硬盘什么的
唯一就是我的420面板开胶 和 X220的触摸板 其他感觉都不错
HP DELL 大部分都很烂 不知道美国人很顽强的在用 应该都是公司配备的
不过我06年买过一个华硕的 对质量很放心 用了3，4年 经历高温 进水什么的都没
事 |
m*****d
发帖数: 13718 | 49 其实dell真的没那么烂，跟联想半斤八两
【在 r******y 的大作中提到】
: 这两点我觉得都好 散热硬盘什么的
: 唯一就是我的420面板开胶 和 X220的触摸板 其他感觉都不错
: HP DELL 大部分都很烂 不知道美国人很顽强的在用 应该都是公司配备的
: 不过我06年买过一个华硕的 对质量很放心 用了3，4年 经历高温 进水什么的都没
: 事
|
c******y
发帖数: 3269 | 50 This one is based on rescuepc's own database, I don't know if it's reliable:
1. they mixed US market share with failure numbers from rescuepc, I don't
know if it makes sense.
2. since they can distinguish HP home/business, why they mix Lenovo/IBM
together?
And I have no idea how they rate the score, e.g.
LENOVO/IBM 7.3% 2.6% 281
SAMSUNG 1.7% 1.1% 156
I'll read the other link from PC world and share my opinion with you.
【在 N*****m 的大作中提到】
: 再看这个
: http://www.rescuecom.com/news-press-releases/Computer-Reliabili
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r******y
发帖数: 12263 | 51
我自己没用过DELL 玩朋友的感觉是傻大笨粗
HP 发热就不用说了 一直在劝说别人
第一个笔记本是东芝A50
第二个是华硕的一款 觉得很好。。。当年的高配吧
本子其实用到一个牌子不容易换 一个人也就用最多10个本子吧
【在 m*****d 的大作中提到】
: 其实dell真的没那么烂，跟联想半斤八两
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c******y
发帖数: 3269 | 52 Exactly, comparing Thinkpad with HP/Dell makes no sense.
Comparing Dell with Lenovo, I think it's just 半斤八两
【在 m*****d 的大作中提到】
: 其实dell真的没那么烂，跟联想半斤八两
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m*****d
发帖数: 13718 | 53 所以说联想买tp买得还是很值的，一下子仿佛上了个档次，如果是华硕买了估计现在也
差不多，现在攒laptop也没啥秘技了
【在 r******y 的大作中提到】
:
: 我自己没用过DELL 玩朋友的感觉是傻大笨粗
: HP 发热就不用说了 一直在劝说别人
: 第一个笔记本是东芝A50
: 第二个是华硕的一款 觉得很好。。。当年的高配吧
: 本子其实用到一个牌子不容易换 一个人也就用最多10个本子吧
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c******y
发帖数: 3269 | 54 They included various lines of HP/Dell business lines:
HP for Business laptops include the EliteBook, Mini, and ProBook product
lines, among others.
Dell for Business laptops include the Latitude, Precision, and Vostro
product lines, among others.
Aand we have no idea of the distribution of the 60000+ samples among each
brand and how to measure:
i.e. Samsung/Toshiba earns a high reliability score, way much better than
Lenovo and HP/Dell business class
So companies are too blinded to pay extra for business class while they can
get cheaper/"more reliable" Samsung/Toshiba laptops?
【在 N*****m 的大作中提到】
: http://www.pcworld.com/article/244419/laptop_reliability_and_sa
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c******y
发帖数: 3269 | 55 Yes, many people are comparing low-end HP/Dell with Thinkpad nowadays, and
get a conclusion HP/Dell sucks
I should compare low-end Lenovo B series to Dell Precision/HP Elitebook, and
say Lenovo sucks to death, LOL
【在 m*****d 的大作中提到】
: 所以说联想买tp买得还是很值的，一下子仿佛上了个档次，如果是华硕买了估计现在也
: 差不多，现在攒laptop也没啥秘技了
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P****i
发帖数: 12972 | 56 too blind很正常
我上个公司就是ibm pc被联想买了后转Dell了
美国政府机关、公立学校的采购估计也是照顾美国公司，跟美国警车都是美国车一样
can
【在 c******y 的大作中提到】
: They included various lines of HP/Dell business lines:
: HP for Business laptops include the EliteBook, Mini, and ProBook product
: lines, among others.
: Dell for Business laptops include the Latitude, Precision, and Vostro
: product lines, among others.
: Aand we have no idea of the distribution of the 60000+ samples among each
: brand and how to measure:
: i.e. Samsung/Toshiba earns a high reliability score, way much better than
: Lenovo and HP/Dell business class
: So companies are too blinded to pay extra for business class while they can
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d********g
发帖数: 10550 | 57 "Yes, many people are comparing low-end HP/Dell with Thinkpad nowadays, and
get a conclusion HP/Dell sucks"
Please kindly provide source regarding "many people" and "get a conclusion
HP/Dell sucks". Or you were just 张嘴就来? Please don't 打滚 LOL.
You really have a gift asking for "source" due to your genetic source. Good
for you!
and
【在 c******y 的大作中提到】
: Yes, many people are comparing low-end HP/Dell with Thinkpad nowadays, and
: get a conclusion HP/Dell sucks
: I should compare low-end Lenovo B series to Dell Precision/HP Elitebook, and
: say Lenovo sucks to death, LOL
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c******y
发帖数: 3269 | 58 many is not a statistics, follow my posts to see how "many" HP/Dell VS
Thinkpad cases, count it for yourself, LOL
Oh, puppy girl is talking about 张嘴就来 or 打滚?
#62: 我的假设是，售价差不多的电脑，3年保卖得越便宜，越可以说明产品的质量
好。
#85: 我的point非常简单，正常情况50到80刀即可升级W530的3-yr warranty。
#89: 你第一个回我的帖子就扯“free 3-yr ON-SITE warranty”，
不是用我的“保修价格与质量成反比”的逻辑吗？
Changing your point first, then claim your point is mine?
Slapping your own face? You are so girly, LOL
Oh, puppy girl is talking about 数据?
http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t1/Hardware/31672359_0_3.html
#54 you intentionally missed it?
I believe you never try to question the data source, but respect it as a
slave, like what you did to Lenovo.
Whoever question the data, you'll bite the one fiercely using girl's gesture
. LOL, get some manhood and use your head first.
and
Good
【在 d********g 的大作中提到】
: "Yes, many people are comparing low-end HP/Dell with Thinkpad nowadays, and
: get a conclusion HP/Dell sucks"
: Please kindly provide source regarding "many people" and "get a conclusion
: HP/Dell sucks". Or you were just 张嘴就来? Please don't 打滚 LOL.
: You really have a gift asking for "source" due to your genetic source. Good
: for you!
:
: and
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d********g
发帖数: 10550 | 59 Sigh, your pussy brain never got my point.
For #62, if you were not admitting the warranty price & build quality
relationship that I pointed out, why would you even mention the "free 3-yr
warranty"? Then why did you ask me to compare the total price for W530 &
M4700 w/ both 4GB ram & 3-yr warranty? Then why did you ignore the total
price for W530 & M4700 w/ everything exactly the same? Because your pussy
brain realized that you cannot win by your "free" 3-yr warranty shit. Don't
even mention that you tried so hard to misrepresent my point in your own
pussy way.
You've NEVER responded to my requests regarding data supporting your own
arguments. That's the pure fact, and it is still slapping in your face right
now.
You question ANY data because you lack the ability to obtain ANY data
yourself. You are just acting like a crazy dog, that's it. You bite
everything you get, that's it. I really do not think it is a wise idea to
act like a dog. Or you do it just for dog food? I don't know.
Show your data or "data" to support your "free 3-yr warranty" shit, or get
slapped again and again. I hope you enjoy your genetic source. DNA really
makes difference.
gesture
conclusion
【在 c******y 的大作中提到】
: many is not a statistics, follow my posts to see how "many" HP/Dell VS
: Thinkpad cases, count it for yourself, LOL
: Oh, puppy girl is talking about 张嘴就来 or 打滚?
: #62: 我的假设是，售价差不多的电脑，3年保卖得越便宜，越可以说明产品的质量
: 好。
: #85: 我的point非常简单，正常情况50到80刀即可升级W530的3-yr warranty。
: #89: 你第一个回我的帖子就扯“free 3-yr ON-SITE warranty”，
: 不是用我的“保修价格与质量成反比”的逻辑吗？
: Changing your point first, then claim your point is mine?
: Slapping your own face? You are so girly, LOL
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c******y
发帖数: 3269 | 60 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
You said Lenovo offers $50 to $80 upgrade, I said Dell provided 3YR for free
, that's it. Then you think I initiated warranty price & build quality
relationship? 张嘴就来?
"我的假设是，售价差不多的电脑，3年保卖得越便宜，越可以说明产品的质量好。你要
么驳倒我这个论点（保修价格与质量成反比），要么就顺着我的论点"
You logic system must be disordered, because you even don't know there is an
option: no relationship, and unfortunately, that's the key
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
For a desperate girl seeking for data without basic logic, should I offer
the data to satisfy your anxiety? |
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d********g
发帖数: 10550 | 61 "You said Lenovo offers $50 to $80 upgrade, I said Dell provided 3YR for
free, that's it."
真轻巧。你忘了自己initiated WSN、high school course、girl等一系列打滚话题的
事情了？
free
an
【在 c******y 的大作中提到】
: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
: You said Lenovo offers $50 to $80 upgrade, I said Dell provided 3YR for free
: , that's it. Then you think I initiated warranty price & build quality
: relationship? 张嘴就来?
: "我的假设是，售价差不多的电脑，3年保卖得越便宜，越可以说明产品的质量好。你要
: 么驳倒我这个论点（保修价格与质量成反比），要么就顺着我的论点"
: You logic system must be disordered, because you even don't know there is an
: option: no relationship, and unfortunately, that's the key
: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
: For a desperate girl seeking for data without basic logic, should I offer
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c******y
发帖数: 3269 | 62 Desperate to PM PA me and keep sticking with your chaotic logic system?
Be a man, get a life, LOL
【在 d********g 的大作中提到】
: "You said Lenovo offers $50 to $80 upgrade, I said Dell provided 3YR for
: free, that's it."
: 真轻巧。你忘了自己initiated WSN、high school course、girl等一系列打滚话题的
: 事情了？
:
: free
: an
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d********g
发帖数: 10550 | 63 You do not know how to use telnet and didn't see the reply, thus you thought
I only PMed you my reply? I knew it... That's why you got PM for your
convenience. You are welcome.
Get a term client then you will see the reply under telnet. Web gui doesn't
work as it's been 合集ed. You learned something today, right?
【在 c******y 的大作中提到】
: Desperate to PM PA me and keep sticking with your chaotic logic system?
: Be a man, get a life, LOL
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c******y
发帖数: 3269 | 64 LOL, now your PA is not context-exclusive but telnet too?
Rocket scientist, be a man, go get a life
thought
t
【在 d********g 的大作中提到】
: You do not know how to use telnet and didn't see the reply, thus you thought
: I only PMed you my reply? I knew it... That's why you got PM for your
: convenience. You are welcome.
: Get a term client then you will see the reply under telnet. Web gui doesn't
: work as it's been 合集ed. You learned something today, right?
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d********g
发帖数: 10550 | 65 Be a man, go get a wife. Good for you.
You don't have to feel embarrassed for not using telnet. It's just... maybe
too hard for you.
I was just saying that you were 张嘴就来 about PM.
Perhaps I should provide the link here for you. I don't think you know
anything about term:
http://www.mitbbs.com/mitbbs_article_t.php?board=Hardware&gid=3
Check the time stamp. It slaps in your face again.
【在 c******y 的大作中提到】
: LOL, now your PA is not context-exclusive but telnet too?
: Rocket scientist, be a man, go get a life
:
: thought
: t
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c******y
发帖数: 3269 | 66 "rocket science" making you so high?
For 张嘴就来 inventer, I just 张嘴就来 back, never expect to make you so
serious and rocket high. You are hilarious and easy to feed, LOL
maybe
【在 d********g 的大作中提到】
: Be a man, go get a wife. Good for you.
: You don't have to feel embarrassed for not using telnet. It's just... maybe
: too hard for you.
: I was just saying that you were 张嘴就来 about PM.
: Perhaps I should provide the link here for you. I don't think you know
: anything about term:
: http://www.mitbbs.com/mitbbs_article_t.php?board=Hardware&gid=3
: Check the time stamp. It slaps in your face again.
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l**4
发帖数: 2989 | 67 兄弟，别跟那个老娘们争啦，让丫精神胜利一把吧，我们捂着青肿的脸洗洗睡吧
如果有人认识丫家人的话，可以向丫家人展示一下丫的辩论战果
这种2B我见多了，小肚鸡肠斤斤计较鸡毛大点小事就跟人争得面红耳赤的
大家都在围观看丫笑话丫还洋洋得意的说：“看，我赢了，你脸被打的疼不疼。。。”
结论，千万不要跟傻逼辩论，鉴定完毕，哈哈
【在 c******y 的大作中提到】
: "rocket science" making you so high?
: For 张嘴就来 inventer, I just 张嘴就来 back, never expect to make you so
: serious and rocket high. You are hilarious and easy to feed, LOL
:
: maybe
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d********g
发帖数: 10550 | 68 I really didn't expect "go get a wife" to make you so upset. But you could
go get a wife by 张嘴就来 for sure.
【在 c******y 的大作中提到】
: "rocket science" making you so high?
: For 张嘴就来 inventer, I just 张嘴就来 back, never expect to make you so
: serious and rocket high. You are hilarious and easy to feed, LOL
:
: maybe
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d********g
发帖数: 10550 | 69 嗯，我最怕洋大人，这个一来我只好认输。洋大人PA，我也是不敢说半个不字的
【在 l**4 的大作中提到】
: 兄弟，别跟那个老娘们争啦，让丫精神胜利一把吧，我们捂着青肿的脸洗洗睡吧
: 如果有人认识丫家人的话，可以向丫家人展示一下丫的辩论战果
: 这种2B我见多了，小肚鸡肠斤斤计较鸡毛大点小事就跟人争得面红耳赤的
: 大家都在围观看丫笑话丫还洋洋得意的说：“看，我赢了，你脸被打的疼不疼。。。”
: 结论，千万不要跟傻逼辩论，鉴定完毕，哈哈
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N*****m
发帖数: 42603 | 70 他们对两个美国公司的分类更清楚点？或者他们想帮这两个牌子说好话，不然两个都垫
底了？
不管咋样，我说的既有亲身经历，也有统计支持。
reliable:
【在 c******y 的大作中提到】
: This one is based on rescuepc's own database, I don't know if it's reliable:
: 1. they mixed US market share with failure numbers from rescuepc, I don't
: know if it makes sense.
: 2. since they can distinguish HP home/business, why they mix Lenovo/IBM
: together?
: And I have no idea how they rate the score, e.g.
: LENOVO/IBM 7.3% 2.6% 281
: SAMSUNG 1.7% 1.1% 156
: I'll read the other link from PC world and share my opinion with you.
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