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发帖数: 15913 | 1 Timothy Stansbury died in a New York housing project stairwell in 2004
because he startled a police officer. The officer's surprise at encountering
Stansbury caused the officer's hand to clench and his weapon to fire. The
death was ruled accidental by a grand jury, though the officer was later
stripped of his gun for the remainder of his career.
Akai Gurley died in another New York housing project stairwell last fall. A
rookie officer with his finger on the trigger of his pistol tensed as he
pushed open a stuck door; the added pressure on the trigger caused his
weapon to fire a shot down the stairwell. The round ricocheted off the wall
to strike Gurley. Though the shot wasn't intentional and the officer didn't
even know Gurley was there, the death has been ruled a criminal homicide,
and the officer's trial is pending.
In both of these incidents, the police officers were using the same weapon,
a Glock: a polymer-frame, striker-fired pistol with a short trigger pull and
no external safeties.
It's a popular handgun for law enforcement in New York and beyond. The Los
Angeles Police Department has a number of firearms approved for use,
including nine Glock models. The Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department
recently began issuing new recruits the Smith & Wesson M&P, a handgun with a
short trigger pull that operates in much the same way.
Glock uses the marketing term “Safe Action” to describe its firing-pin
system, but the truth is that Glocks are accident-prone. They contributed to
more than 120 accidental discharges in the Washington Metropolitan Police
Department from 1988 to 1998. Anecdotes of increased accidental shootings
have followed the pistol for more than 30 years wherever it has been adopted
by police officers and citizens alike.
Just last month, Ocala, Fla., Police Officer Jared Forsyth was shot and
killed by a fellow officer after a Glock training session. The fellow
officer failed to do a chamber check before pulling the trigger as part of
the handgun's normal disassembly procedure. When the gun fired, the bullet
went through a gap in Forsyth's body armor. Despite the efforts of
paramedics to keep him alive, the young officer died on the way to a
hospital.
In terms of mechanical design, there are few flaws with Glock pistols. If a
law enforcement officer, soldier or citizen does exactly what they are
supposed to do all of the time with cyborg certainty, there will be no
problems with the Glock or other popular pistols mimicking its basic design.
Unfortunately, “RoboCop” is only a movie, and humans are liable to make
similar mistakes over and over again.
The underlying problem with these pistols is a short trigger pull and the
lack of an external safety. In real-world encounters, a short trigger pull
can be lethal, in part because a significant percentage of law enforcement
officers — some experts say as high as 20% — put their finger on the
trigger of their weapons when under stress. According to firearms trainers,
most officers are completely unaware of their tendency to do this and have a
hard time believing it, even when they're shown video evidence from
training exercises.
For more than 35 years, officer-involved accidental discharges with Glocks
and Glock-like weapons have been blamed on a lack of training or negligence
on the part of the individual cops. What critics should be addressing
instead is the brutal reality that short trigger pulls and natural human
reflexes are a deadly combination.
Though short trigger-pull guns dominate the law enforcement market, they
aren't the only game in town. A number of major and minor agencies use guns
with much longer double-action triggers that are just as easy to fire
deliberately but that are much harder to fire accidentally. The half-inch
difference of trigger travel may not sound like much, but it can be the
difference between life and death.
We'll continue to see more Timothy Stansburys, more Akai Gurleys and more
Jared Forsyths until law enforcement agencies and city governments quit
listening to hype about how wonderful these systems are from the companies
selling the weapons, and start caring more about the lives of their officers
and citizens.
Payouts to settle lawsuits over accidental shootings with these weapons have
cost cities millions of dollars. Washington, D.C., for instance, paid out $
1.4 million in a single six-month period in 1998. And the casualties and
lawsuits keep mounting. | P*A
发帖数: 7996 | 2 这种垃圾文转过来干甚？
前俩例子警察高度紧张下巡逻，随时准备开枪的模式，你说换什么枪能保证不走火，莫
非你觉得警察该开着保险持枪？
第三个例子，那二货警察楼板机的时候居然对着人，这你也怪枪？
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【在 f****t 的大作中提到】
: Timothy Stansbury died in a New York housing project stairwell in 2004
: because he startled a police officer. The officer's surprise at encountering
: Stansbury caused the officer's hand to clench and his weapon to fire. The
: death was ruled accidental by a grand jury, though the officer was later
: stripped of his gun for the remainder of his career.
: Akai Gurley died in another New York housing project stairwell last fall. A
: rookie officer with his finger on the trigger of his pistol tensed as he
: pushed open a stuck door; the added pressure on the trigger caused his
: weapon to fire a shot down the stairwell. The round ricocheted off the wall
: to strike Gurley. Though the shot wasn't intentional and the officer didn't
| f****t
发帖数: 15913 | 3 **** Glock uses the marketing term “Safe Action” to describe its firing-
pin
system, but the truth is that Glocks are accident-prone. They contributed to
more than 120 accidental discharges in the Washington Metropolitan Police
Department from 1988 to 1998. ****
看看吧，连警察局都在十年间有120次glock意外走火，难道警察都是傻子？
glock这种枪只要子弹上膛就处于扳机形成短、力量小的状态，用户没有选择，
DA/SA的枪可以在大部分时间decock或上保险，只是在需要时才处于SA
且保险解除的状态，
哪个安全一目了然，有的glock用户因此平时不把子弹上膛，在要用前拉slide，这个动
作比解除保险慢多了，让glock的优点损失殆尽，
别动不动就说垃圾而不提供任何理由，往往事实是相反的。
我转这个贴只是要第一次买枪的老中明白利弊，除了glock还有别的选择。
【在 P*A 的大作中提到】
: 这种垃圾文转过来干甚？
: 前俩例子警察高度紧张下巡逻，随时准备开枪的模式，你说换什么枪能保证不走火，莫
: 非你觉得警察该开着保险持枪？
: 第三个例子，那二货警察楼板机的时候居然对着人，这你也怪枪？
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发帖数: 28 | | k**m
发帖数: 126 | 5 文章没有比较，数据只有Glock的。做一个百分比的比较，看看是否Glock 更容易出事
故。 |
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