f*******r
发帖数: 5301 | 1 左轮显然不够啊，打了六枪，击中五枪，没子弹了，对方说，不要打了。。。。。
http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/local/woman-hiding-kids-shoots-i
LOGANVILLE, Ga. — A woman hiding in her attic with children shot an
intruder multiple times before fleeing to safety Friday.
The incident happened at a home on Henderson Ridge Lane in Loganville around
1 p.m. The woman was working in an upstairs office when she spotted a
strange man outside a window, according to Walton County Sheriff Joe Chapman
. He said she took her 9-year-old twins to a crawlspace before the man broke
in using a crowbar.
But the man eventually found the family.
"The perpetrator opens that door. Of course, at that time he's staring at
her, her two children and a .38 revolver," Chapman told Channel 2’s Kerry
Kavanaugh.
The woman then shot him five times, but he survived, Chapman said. He said
the woman ran out of bullets but threatened to shoot the intruder if he
moved.
"She's standing over him, and she realizes she's fired all six rounds. And
the guy's telling her to quit shooting," Chapman said.
The woman ran to a neighbor's home with her children. The intruder attempted
to flee in his car but crashed into a wooded area and collapsed in a nearby
driveway, Chapman said.
Deputies arrested 32-year-old Atlanta resident Paul Slater in connection
with the crime. Chapman said they found him on the ground saying, "Help me.
I'm close to dying." Slater was taken to Gwinnett Medical Center for
treatment. Chapman said Slater was shot in the face and neck.
In February, Slater was arrested on simple battery charges, according to the
Gwinnett County Sheriff's Office. He has been arrested six other times in
the county since 2008.
Kavanaugh was the first reporter at the scene as deputies investigated. The
victim's husband told Kavanaugh he's proud of his wife. He was on the phone
with her as the intruder broke in.
"My wife is a hero. She protected her kids. She did what she was supposed to
do as responsible, prepared gun owner," Donnie Herman said.
He said he's thankful for his family's safety.
"Her life is saved, and her kids' life is saved, and that's all I'd like to
say," Herman said.
Channel 2’s Amy Napier Viteri learned from Chapman late Friday night that
slater has been placed on a ventilator and suffers from punctured lungs, a
punctured liver and a punctured stomach.
He said if Slater survives the night, doctors will try to operate in the
morning to repair the damage.
Chapman said Slater has four exit wounds.
Slater is currently being charged with burglary. |
d***8
发帖数: 2039 | |
t******8
发帖数: 2803 | |
w****f
发帖数: 1420 | 4 +1
要是开花弹就死定了，脸和脖子
【在 d***8 的大作中提到】
: 我猜用的是FMJ round？
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m********a
发帖数: 1312 | 5 很有喜感，凶猛的老黑撞到枪口上，女主人拿着空左轮踩着地上的中枪的老黑，绝对的
麻秆打狼两头怕。.38五枪都没死，还能试图开车逃跑，king kong啊。 |
f*******r
发帖数: 5301 | 6 五发.38，如果是FMJ，加起来只是半发OO buckshot的威力
如果是六发OO buckshot打中五发，就没这问题了
【在 w****f 的大作中提到】
: +1
: 要是开花弹就死定了，脸和脖子
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m********a
发帖数: 1312 | 7 好奇如果是五发12ga 00 buckshot都招呼上去会不会打出空洞来？或者胳膊飞出去之类
效果。
【在 f*******r 的大作中提到】
: 五发.38，如果是FMJ，加起来只是半发OO buckshot的威力
: 如果是六发OO buckshot打中五发，就没这问题了
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f*******r
发帖数: 5301 | 8 从戳纸的经验来看，跟拿手枪打几十发效果应该差不多，塑料托也会上去招呼几下
【在 m********a 的大作中提到】
: 好奇如果是五发12ga 00 buckshot都招呼上去会不会打出空洞来？或者胳膊飞出去之类
: 效果。
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d*******s
发帖数: 15155 | |
v******d
发帖数: 1939 | 10 感想：
1. “He has been arrested six other times in the county since 2008.” 尼玛，
怎么还让他在外面晃荡？
2. “He said if Slater survives the night, doctors will try to operate in
the morning to repair the damage.” 这得花纳税人多少钱？
3. 治好了之后关几天又出来晃荡？那家人是不是有可能被报复？
around
Chapman
broke
【在 f*******r 的大作中提到】
: 左轮显然不够啊，打了六枪，击中五枪，没子弹了，对方说，不要打了。。。。。
: http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/local/woman-hiding-kids-shoots-i
: LOGANVILLE, Ga. — A woman hiding in her attic with children shot an
: intruder multiple times before fleeing to safety Friday.
: The incident happened at a home on Henderson Ridge Lane in Loganville around
: 1 p.m. The woman was working in an upstairs office when she spotted a
: strange man outside a window, according to Walton County Sheriff Joe Chapman
: . He said she took her 9-year-old twins to a crawlspace before the man broke
: in using a crowbar.
: But the man eventually found the family.
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z***e
发帖数: 5600 | 11 报复怕是想都不敢想了，谁吃了五枪拣条命肯定以后都绕着走。同感前两条
★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 7.7
【在 v******d 的大作中提到】
: 感想：
: 1. “He has been arrested six other times in the county since 2008.” 尼玛，
: 怎么还让他在外面晃荡？
: 2. “He said if Slater survives the night, doctors will try to operate in
: the morning to repair the damage.” 这得花纳税人多少钱？
: 3. 治好了之后关几天又出来晃荡？那家人是不是有可能被报复？
:
: around
: Chapman
: broke
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z***e
发帖数: 5600 | 12 要是.357应该足够劲了吧
另外一个角度看，左轮还是很有用的，带俩孩子，面对冲着藏身之地直来的歹徒，生死
关头，还能六发五中，很不错了
around
★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 7.7
【在 f*******r 的大作中提到】
: 左轮显然不够啊，打了六枪，击中五枪，没子弹了，对方说，不要打了。。。。。
: http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/local/woman-hiding-kids-shoots-i
: LOGANVILLE, Ga. — A woman hiding in her attic with children shot an
: intruder multiple times before fleeing to safety Friday.
: The incident happened at a home on Henderson Ridge Lane in Loganville around
: 1 p.m. The woman was working in an upstairs office when she spotted a
: strange man outside a window, according to Walton County Sheriff Joe Chapman
: . He said she took her 9-year-old twins to a crawlspace before the man broke
: in using a crowbar.
: But the man eventually found the family.
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k*******n
发帖数: 5546 | 13 这下医疗费，康复费，庭审，监狱，亏大了...
老黑真壮，这要是老中早挂了... |
k*******n
发帖数: 5546 | 14
357 magnum 最佳左轮打人口径 左轮时代警察都用这个 我原来房东有一把S&W 给力
【在 z***e 的大作中提到】
: 要是.357应该足够劲了吧
: 另外一个角度看，左轮还是很有用的，带俩孩子，面对冲着藏身之地直来的歹徒，生死
: 关头，还能六发五中，很不错了
:
: around
: ★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 7.7
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f*******r
发帖数: 5301 | 15 这种情况，我觉着还是散弹最靠谱，哪怕只是20 gauge，一发打中也顶这五发.38了
【在 z***e 的大作中提到】
: 要是.357应该足够劲了吧
: 另外一个角度看，左轮还是很有用的，带俩孩子，面对冲着藏身之地直来的歹徒，生死
: 关头，还能六发五中，很不错了
:
: around
: ★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 7.7
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v******d
发帖数: 1939 | 16 本来看了这个例子都有点泄气了。。。。听KK老大这么一说，我对我的S&W 686p又重拾
信心了。呵呵
【在 k*******n 的大作中提到】
:
: 357 magnum 最佳左轮打人口径 左轮时代警察都用这个 我原来房东有一把S&W 给力
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d**********t
发帖数: 1821 | 17 我觉得可能跟用的子弹有关，。38jhp不至于如此差劲，可能用的是jmp而且5枪全打胳
膊腿上了。.38威力应该根9毫米差不多。
当然首选。357，基本上是手枪里面stop power的猛炮。
另外很多人有些误解，其实手枪击中后85%的被击中者是后来存活的 这根电影里面完全
不一样。 |
w****f
发帖数: 1420 | 18 Chapman said Slater was shot in the face and neck
【在 d**********t 的大作中提到】
: 我觉得可能跟用的子弹有关，。38jhp不至于如此差劲，可能用的是jmp而且5枪全打胳
: 膊腿上了。.38威力应该根9毫米差不多。
: 当然首选。357，基本上是手枪里面stop power的猛炮。
: 另外很多人有些误解，其实手枪击中后85%的被击中者是后来存活的 这根电影里面完全
: 不一样。
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d*******s
发帖数: 15155 | 19 357比38狠多了啊，那个好歹是马格努姆弹。
【在 v******d 的大作中提到】
: 本来看了这个例子都有点泄气了。。。。听KK老大这么一说，我对我的S&W 686p又重拾
: 信心了。呵呵
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d*******s
发帖数: 15155 | 20 357当然猛了。上次那个警察拿着AR，被人家用手枪压在警车旁边抬不起头的case，最
后就是个老大爷，用357左轮，百码外干掉suspect，救了警察。所以你赶紧好好练吧，
LOL
【在 v******d 的大作中提到】
: 本来看了这个例子都有点泄气了。。。。听KK老大这么一说，我对我的S&W 686p又重拾
: 信心了。呵呵
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H****r
发帖数: 16240 | 21 真tmd是king kong
左轮还是得用至少+P开花弹
【在 m********a 的大作中提到】
: 很有喜感，凶猛的老黑撞到枪口上，女主人拿着空左轮踩着地上的中枪的老黑，绝对的
: 麻秆打狼两头怕。.38五枪都没死，还能试图开车逃跑，king kong啊。
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H****r
发帖数: 16240 | 22 参考前段时间推荐的ayoob的书，
里面大量尸检照片……
【在 m********a 的大作中提到】
: 好奇如果是五发12ga 00 buckshot都招呼上去会不会打出空洞来？或者胳膊飞出去之类
: 效果。
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n****e
发帖数: 6292 | 23 .38的威力只有9mm的2/3
【在 d**********t 的大作中提到】
: 我觉得可能跟用的子弹有关，。38jhp不至于如此差劲，可能用的是jmp而且5枪全打胳
: 膊腿上了。.38威力应该根9毫米差不多。
: 当然首选。357，基本上是手枪里面stop power的猛炮。
: 另外很多人有些误解，其实手枪击中后85%的被击中者是后来存活的 这根电影里面完全
: 不一样。
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o****n
发帖数: 1520 | 24 看照片是个泥哥，今年8月才从监狱里放出来的。
脖子上3枪，脸上2枪。有子弹把牙打掉了：
“Slater was shot three times in the neck, and twice in the face.”
"We know he was shot in the mouth because we found teeth all in the upstairs
room where he was shot," said Chapman.
http://www.wsbradio.com/news/news/crime-law/intruder-shot-armed |
d*******s
发帖数: 15155 | 25 大妈打得够准的啊，瞄头打得，还是枪口抬到嘴上？XD
upstairs
【在 o****n 的大作中提到】
: 看照片是个泥哥，今年8月才从监狱里放出来的。
: 脖子上3枪，脸上2枪。有子弹把牙打掉了：
: “Slater was shot three times in the neck, and twice in the face.”
: "We know he was shot in the mouth because we found teeth all in the upstairs
: room where he was shot," said Chapman.
: http://www.wsbradio.com/news/news/crime-law/intruder-shot-armed
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o****n
发帖数: 1520 | 26 .38左轮配FMJ 弹，打中的不是心脏大脑人还可以活动甚至开枪还击。
比如2006年香港尖沙咀警员枪击案，和2007年杭州枪击武疯子案：
http://www.douban.com/note/133890803/
【在 f*******r 的大作中提到】
: 左轮显然不够啊，打了六枪，击中五枪，没子弹了，对方说，不要打了。。。。。
: http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/local/woman-hiding-kids-shoots-i
: LOGANVILLE, Ga. — A woman hiding in her attic with children shot an
: intruder multiple times before fleeing to safety Friday.
: The incident happened at a home on Henderson Ridge Lane in Loganville around
: 1 p.m. The woman was working in an upstairs office when she spotted a
: strange man outside a window, according to Walton County Sheriff Joe Chapman
: . He said she took her 9-year-old twins to a crawlspace before the man broke
: in using a crowbar.
: But the man eventually found the family.
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h*******g
发帖数: 2201 | |
s****i
发帖数: 5469 | 28 这人渣又得花多少纳税人的钱治病，真遗憾没挂掉。 |
h*********2
发帖数: 2508 | 29 所以说还是大口径+开花弹最高效，这要是10mm开花蛋一发就省得叫救护车了
【在 s****i 的大作中提到】
: 这人渣又得花多少纳税人的钱治病，真遗憾没挂掉。
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s****i
发帖数: 5469 | 30 最好连救护车都不用叫直接跑到屋外就倒地上挂了，救护车还要浪费纳税人的钱
呢，对这种人渣我没有任何同情心。
【在 h*********2 的大作中提到】
: 所以说还是大口径+开花弹最高效，这要是10mm开花蛋一发就省得叫救护车了
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l******8
发帖数: 1691 | 31 Obama's good son.
around
Chapman
broke
【在 f*******r 的大作中提到】
: 左轮显然不够啊，打了六枪，击中五枪，没子弹了，对方说，不要打了。。。。。
: http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/local/woman-hiding-kids-shoots-i
: LOGANVILLE, Ga. — A woman hiding in her attic with children shot an
: intruder multiple times before fleeing to safety Friday.
: The incident happened at a home on Henderson Ridge Lane in Loganville around
: 1 p.m. The woman was working in an upstairs office when she spotted a
: strange man outside a window, according to Walton County Sheriff Joe Chapman
: . He said she took her 9-year-old twins to a crawlspace before the man broke
: in using a crowbar.
: But the man eventually found the family.
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k*******n
发帖数: 5546 | |
h*********r
发帖数: 1943 | 33 手枪和霰弹的枪伤相对好处理，要用小口径或者全威力的步枪近距离开火，五发打中头
脸剩下什么都别麻烦，可以直接呼叫911进来收尸
That's why I choose SGL31 and have 2 mags fully loadded
Bumpski stock on purchase list..... |
i*********n
发帖数: 5465 | |
G*****7
发帖数: 1759 | 35 clearly this news is in ref to the ban on 10+ capacity mags.
it's telling people 6 rounds are barely enough and you will definitely need
12+ rounds.
around
Chapman
broke
【在 f*******r 的大作中提到】
: 左轮显然不够啊，打了六枪，击中五枪，没子弹了，对方说，不要打了。。。。。
: http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/local/woman-hiding-kids-shoots-i
: LOGANVILLE, Ga. — A woman hiding in her attic with children shot an
: intruder multiple times before fleeing to safety Friday.
: The incident happened at a home on Henderson Ridge Lane in Loganville around
: 1 p.m. The woman was working in an upstairs office when she spotted a
: strange man outside a window, according to Walton County Sheriff Joe Chapman
: . He said she took her 9-year-old twins to a crawlspace before the man broke
: in using a crowbar.
: But the man eventually found the family.
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i*********n
发帖数: 5465 | 36
need
haha, good point
【在 G*****7 的大作中提到】
: clearly this news is in ref to the ban on 10+ capacity mags.
: it's telling people 6 rounds are barely enough and you will definitely need
: 12+ rounds.
:
: around
: Chapman
: broke
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P****D
发帖数: 11146 | 37 看帖不仔细啊。肺、肝、胃都招呼上了。
这样都没死，老黑真是......
【在 d**********t 的大作中提到】
: 我觉得可能跟用的子弹有关，。38jhp不至于如此差劲，可能用的是jmp而且5枪全打胳
: 膊腿上了。.38威力应该根9毫米差不多。
: 当然首选。357，基本上是手枪里面stop power的猛炮。
: 另外很多人有些误解，其实手枪击中后85%的被击中者是后来存活的 这根电影里面完全
: 不一样。
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S***e
发帖数: 957 | 38 好样的。希望老中的太太们也能如此，而不是只会对丈夫吼。
around
Chapman
broke
【在 f*******r 的大作中提到】
: 左轮显然不够啊，打了六枪，击中五枪，没子弹了，对方说，不要打了。。。。。
: http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/local/woman-hiding-kids-shoots-i
: LOGANVILLE, Ga. — A woman hiding in her attic with children shot an
: intruder multiple times before fleeing to safety Friday.
: The incident happened at a home on Henderson Ridge Lane in Loganville around
: 1 p.m. The woman was working in an upstairs office when she spotted a
: strange man outside a window, according to Walton County Sheriff Joe Chapman
: . He said she took her 9-year-old twins to a crawlspace before the man broke
: in using a crowbar.
: But the man eventually found the family.
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f*******r
发帖数: 5301 | 39 仔细看了看，五发分别击中：脸，脖子，肺，肝，胃
应该说射击水平是非常高了，在这个个例里，武器确实是最大的制约因素
【在 P****D 的大作中提到】
: 看帖不仔细啊。肺、肝、胃都招呼上了。
: 这样都没死，老黑真是......
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x******9
发帖数: 473 | 40 +1
貌似9mm也不行啊，12gauge轰头估计都没有效果，stopping power排行榜谁有？
9mm,.40,20gauge,12gauge,.45?
need
【在 G*****7 的大作中提到】
: clearly this news is in ref to the ban on 10+ capacity mags.
: it's telling people 6 rounds are barely enough and you will definitely need
: 12+ rounds.
:
: around
: Chapman
: broke
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h*********n
发帖数: 11319 | 41 5枪里有4枪打穿了，应该是FMJ
如果用JHP，就应该不至于浪费纳税人的钱养嫌犯下半辈子了
【在 f*******r 的大作中提到】
: 仔细看了看，五发分别击中：脸，脖子，肺，肝，胃
: 应该说射击水平是非常高了，在这个个例里，武器确实是最大的制约因素
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f*******r
发帖数: 5301 | 42 如果都是FMJ，这五发大概相当于20 gauge来一炮的效果
【在 h*********n 的大作中提到】
: 5枪里有4枪打穿了，应该是FMJ
: 如果用JHP，就应该不至于浪费纳税人的钱养嫌犯下半辈子了
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f*******r
发帖数: 5301 | 43 stopping power排行榜：
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=mCmzJzTQ
发信人: kisskaren (KK), 信区: GunsAndGears
标 题: Re: 为什么多数手枪新手以9mm而不是.22lr开始？
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Jan 6 20:44:34 2013, 美东)
【在 x******9 的大作中提到】
: +1
: 貌似9mm也不行啊，12gauge轰头估计都没有效果，stopping power排行榜谁有？
: 9mm,.40,20gauge,12gauge,.45?
:
: need
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P****D
发帖数: 11146 | 44 肺都打穿了还能说话……我看这个个例里最大的制约因素是罪犯太强了……
【在 f*******r 的大作中提到】
: 仔细看了看，五发分别击中：脸，脖子，肺，肝，胃
: 应该说射击水平是非常高了，在这个个例里，武器确实是最大的制约因素
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H****r
发帖数: 16240 | 45 的确，这个命中率很不错了
LEO们也不见得能做得更好
【在 f*******r 的大作中提到】
: 仔细看了看，五发分别击中：脸，脖子，肺，肝，胃
: 应该说射击水平是非常高了，在这个个例里，武器确实是最大的制约因素
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