G*****7
发帖数: 1759 | 1 today i shot the cz 75bd from my range buddy. it had ~1000 rounds before,
and came with the stock, non-omega trigger and hogue grip. i really dig the
trigger pull in both da/sa, smooth and easy. the accuracy is nice too.
but other aspects of ergonomics are really horrible:
1) first of all there is severe trigger slap/sting. it's not as bad as a px4
in 40, but very painful after merely 20 rounds. i asked the ro and he said
he had similar experience with P01. then i googled it and there is plenty on
this.
2) then it's hell of job to rack the slide, given the limited serration (
which btw is rough and cutting my skin) on the low profile slide.
i learned today this is a gun that bites. |
S**********s
发帖数: 4534 | 2 I had similar experience with the slide. it's a bit awkward to rack on a
good day and I cant imagine if my palm gets sweaty and oily.
never had problems with trigger. maybe it's the way you follow thru? |
G*****7
发帖数: 1759 | 3 if i bang, follow thru, keep it there, let the gun cycle and release to
reset the trigger (the textbook way, right?), i got trigger slapped. not
sure if i got slapped mid cycle or during the trigger reset.
if i dont follow through and just let go as soon as break/bang (the
incorrect way), it seems to sting less.
ppl say it's the cross-section profile of the trigger.
come to think of it, i have got slapped with every metal gun that has a
slender trigger: cz, m9, px4... and fat triggers like sig or polymers treat
me more kindly.
【在 S**********s 的大作中提到】
: I had similar experience with the slide. it's a bit awkward to rack on a
: good day and I cant imagine if my palm gets sweaty and oily.
: never had problems with trigger. maybe it's the way you follow thru?
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s*******n
发帖数: 12995 | 4 Left hand hold the slide downwards, right hand push to rack .
Actually full size CZ 75 is pretty easy to rack, you should try CZ P01. It
is a bitch to rack due to the even smaller slide and much stronger recoil
spring.
the
px4
said
【在 G*****7 的大作中提到】
: today i shot the cz 75bd from my range buddy. it had ~1000 rounds before,
: and came with the stock, non-omega trigger and hogue grip. i really dig the
: trigger pull in both da/sa, smooth and easy. the accuracy is nice too.
: but other aspects of ergonomics are really horrible:
: 1) first of all there is severe trigger slap/sting. it's not as bad as a px4
: in 40, but very painful after merely 20 rounds. i asked the ro and he said
: he had similar experience with P01. then i googled it and there is plenty on
: this.
: 2) then it's hell of job to rack the slide, given the limited serration (
: which btw is rough and cutting my skin) on the low profile slide.
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H****r
发帖数: 16240 | 5 PCR表示毫无压力
【在 s*******n 的大作中提到】
: Left hand hold the slide downwards, right hand push to rack .
: Actually full size CZ 75 is pretty easy to rack, you should try CZ P01. It
: is a bitch to rack due to the even smaller slide and much stronger recoil
: spring.
:
: the
: px4
: said
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s*******n
发帖数: 12995 | 6 Same gun as p01. It took a while to get used to it. As soon as you get used
to it , it will be fine.
But I already sold my p01 after replaced the trigger spring.
【在 H****r 的大作中提到】
: PCR表示毫无压力
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G*****7
发帖数: 1759 | 7 how about rami...
【在 H****r 的大作中提到】
: PCR表示毫无压力
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H****r
发帖数: 16240 | 8 ft
这个木有玩过
【在 G*****7 的大作中提到】
: how about rami...
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G*****7
发帖数: 1759 | 9 actually rami's wide serration looks more ergonomic.
【在 G*****7 的大作中提到】
: how about rami...
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G*****7
发帖数: 1759 | 10 good point about the recoil spring.
the low slide aside, i feel the dense and narrow serration pattern on 75/p01
/pcr affords too little traction.
the wide serrations on glock/rami/ppq and such are much easier to grab with
an oily/sweaty/bloody (god/marx/mao forbid) hand.
i am seriously rethinking my plan about getting a cz.
【在 s*******n 的大作中提到】
: Left hand hold the slide downwards, right hand push to rack .
: Actually full size CZ 75 is pretty easy to rack, you should try CZ P01. It
: is a bitch to rack due to the even smaller slide and much stronger recoil
: spring.
:
: the
: px4
: said
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H****r
发帖数: 16240 | 11 可以考虑一下以色列山寨版的jericho
这边叫做baby desert eagle
或者意大利山寨的witness
都比捷克版的防滑纹有改进
p01
with
【在 G*****7 的大作中提到】
: good point about the recoil spring.
: the low slide aside, i feel the dense and narrow serration pattern on 75/p01
: /pcr affords too little traction.
: the wide serrations on glock/rami/ppq and such are much easier to grab with
: an oily/sweaty/bloody (god/marx/mao forbid) hand.
: i am seriously rethinking my plan about getting a cz.
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G*****7
发帖数: 1759 | 12 thx for the recommendations. these are hard to come by in my local range/
club. i guess i ll just save up for a different da/sa brand.
【在 H****r 的大作中提到】
: 可以考虑一下以色列山寨版的jericho
: 这边叫做baby desert eagle
: 或者意大利山寨的witness
: 都比捷克版的防滑纹有改进
:
: p01
: with
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d*******s
发帖数: 15155 | 13 窄小的slide，和一些人机工程方面的设计，让我最后放弃了更喜欢的CZ75，改入了
Beretta 92 |
s*********r
发帖数: 4210 | 14 EAA 的witness系列改得很成功。 除了个别的型号，我会建议选witness，而不是
CZ系列。在加州就不能这样了。 |
G*****7
发帖数: 1759 | 15
slide-mounted safety... that's why i excluded baby eagle, m9 and cougar from
my pool.
anyway, my next order business is to try hk p30, or save up for a p229/39.
there is not many hammer-fired gun i haven't tried. though i am happy with
my striker collection, i always sense incompleteness if i don't own a hammer
-fired one.
【在 d*******s 的大作中提到】
: 窄小的slide，和一些人机工程方面的设计，让我最后放弃了更喜欢的CZ75，改入了
: Beretta 92
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