s****r
发帖数: 31686 | 1 看电视新闻， 很可怕啊
唯一的安慰是乱党也无法横行 |
H******S
发帖数: 6011 | 2 还没刮完呢。
【在 s****r 的大作中提到】
: 看电视新闻， 很可怕啊
: 唯一的安慰是乱党也无法横行
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a***a
发帖数: 8941 | 3 自然灾害，但是目前还不算很严重，也没有暴乱，暂时还不算SHTF |
f*******r
发帖数: 5301 | 4 局部小规模事件 基本每年都有
【在 s****r 的大作中提到】
: 看电视新闻， 很可怕啊
: 唯一的安慰是乱党也无法横行
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d*******s
发帖数: 15155 | 5 暴风还没问，还不算SHTF。
像上次Katrina之后的几周，那才是SHTF
不过到那时候有人来收枪，肿么办。。。 |
u*1
发帖数: 907 | 6 SHTF了还会有人上门收枪么? Katrina 收枪了?
【在 d*******s 的大作中提到】
: 暴风还没问，还不算SHTF。
: 像上次Katrina之后的几周，那才是SHTF
: 不过到那时候有人来收枪，肿么办。。。
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d*******s
发帖数: 15155 | 7 对啊
【在 u*1 的大作中提到】
: SHTF了还会有人上门收枪么? Katrina 收枪了?
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d*****n
发帖数: 908 | 8 我也担心过这个问题，但后来论坛一个兄弟告诉我：Katrina收枪后NRA帮着打集体官司
，警方败诉，归还全部枪支。随后国会通过一条法律，禁止收枪。
【在 d*******s 的大作中提到】
: 对啊
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h*********l
发帖数: 615 | 9 我在费城西郊 也算飓风覆盖地 结果风比平时下暴雨都小 不决口子就离shft远着呢
【在 s****r 的大作中提到】
: 看电视新闻， 很可怕啊
: 唯一的安慰是乱党也无法横行
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b******o
发帖数: 5644 | |
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t******y
发帖数: 5040 | 11 这最多算是有点狗屎在路上，离打扇还远的很。
数万的美军和国民卫队严阵以待，不会乱的。只是停电停水不方便而已。
从波士顿到DC这一带是米国的老巢，要是这里都能乱了，那米国就真的差不多了。 |
b*****e
发帖数: 5133 | 12 这最后一条哪儿来的？
O8不正想要串通国会来批准UN的IACT。这个可是收枪，不是禁止收枪。
【在 d*****n 的大作中提到】
: 我也担心过这个问题，但后来论坛一个兄弟告诉我：Katrina收枪后NRA帮着打集体官司
: ，警方败诉，归还全部枪支。随后国会通过一条法律，禁止收枪。
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d*****n
发帖数: 908 | 13 我也找不到了。但当时我是查了的，确有这个法律，2006年通过的。
你要是感兴趣，发新帖问吧，论坛里肯定有人知道。
【在 b*****e 的大作中提到】
: 这最后一条哪儿来的？
: O8不正想要串通国会来批准UN的IACT。这个可是收枪，不是禁止收枪。
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b*****e
发帖数: 5133 | 14 Katrina是05年，08年底和新奥尔良的官司打完决定退还没收的枪支。
要是06年国会通过这法律的话还打啥官司啊，再说也不符合政府部门办事拖拉的作风。
【在 d*****n 的大作中提到】
: 我也找不到了。但当时我是查了的，确有这个法律，2006年通过的。
: 你要是感兴趣，发新帖问吧，论坛里肯定有人知道。
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d*****n
发帖数: 908 | 15 查到了：
http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/GunsAndGears/31539639.html
Louisiana legislator Steve Scalise introduced Louisiana House Bill 760,
seizure |
b*****e
发帖数: 5133 | 16 嗯，这个是PROHIBITION ON CONFISCATION OF FIREARMS DURING CERTAIN NATIONAL
EMERGENCIES.
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/109/hr5013/text
【在 d*****n 的大作中提到】
: 查到了：
: http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/GunsAndGears/31539639.html
: Louisiana legislator Steve Scalise introduced Louisiana House Bill 760,
: seizure
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d*****n
发帖数: 908 | 17 我的理解，就是指像Katrina那样的情况，禁止收枪。
也许我理解错了。了解的兄弟可以给说说。
【在 b*****e 的大作中提到】
: 嗯，这个是PROHIBITION ON CONFISCATION OF FIREARMS DURING CERTAIN NATIONAL
: EMERGENCIES.
: http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/109/hr5013/text
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a***a
发帖数: 8941 | |
T******g
发帖数: 21328 | 19 "IN THE SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES"
没过参议院？
【在 b*****e 的大作中提到】
: 嗯，这个是PROHIBITION ON CONFISCATION OF FIREARMS DURING CERTAIN NATIONAL
: EMERGENCIES.
: http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/109/hr5013/text
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d*****n
发帖数: 908 | 20 看这里：
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Rifle_Association
Confiscations in New Orleans
In the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina, multiple reports of confiscations of
civilian firearms by law enforcement began coming out of New Orleans.
Firearm searches of evacuees were carried out prior to allowing them into
evacuation centers,[36] house-to-house firearm confiscations were conducted,
[37] and the superintendent of police was quoted as saying "Only law
enforcement are allowed to have weapons" and "We are going to take all of
the weapons."[38]
On September 12, 2005 National Rifle Association executive vice-president
Wayne LaPierre spoke out against these confiscations. "What we’ve seen in
Louisiana — the breakdown of law and order in the aftermath of disaster —
is exactly the kind of situation where the Second Amendment was intended to
allow citizens to protect themselves," LaPierre said. The NRA filed suit in
the United States District Court for the Eastern District in Louisiana.
On September 23, two weeks after seizures began, NRA and the Second
Amendment Foundation filed for a temporary restraining order. On September
24, 2005 U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Louisiana issued a
temporary restraining order barring any further gun confiscations and
ordering the return of lawfully owned firearms to their owners. On March 1,
2006, the NRA filed a motion for contempt against the city of New Orleans,
its mayor, and the chief of police for failure to comply with the
restraining order. On March 15, 2006, lawyers from both sides reached an
agreement in the case of NRA v. Mayor Ray Nagin, which is pending before a
federal court. The city of New Orleans admitted that it holds a number of
confiscated firearms, and the Property and Evidence Division of the New
Orleans Police Department is to return the firearms to their owners on
request and proof of ownership or affidavit. In the chaos and destruction
following Katrina many homeowners have, however, lost everything including
the paperwork that would prove ownership. At this time (2006) the majority
of the seized firearms have not been returned to the rightful owners. (See
Fourth Amendment to the United States Constitution.)
In June 2006 Louisiana Governor Kathleen Blanco signed the NRA-backed Act
275, forbidding the confiscation of firearms from lawful citizens during
declared emergencies. Similar legislation had already been adopted in nine
other states.[citation needed]
On October 4, 2006 President George W. Bush signed into law the NRA-backed
Disaster Recovery Personal Protection Act of 2006 (incorporated into the
Department of Homeland Security Appropriations bill). This legislation
prohibits the confiscation of legal firearms from citizens during states of
emergency by any agent of the Federal Government or anyone receiving Federal
funds (effectively, any Federal, state, or local governmental entity).
Introduced in Congress by Rep. Bobby Jindal and Sen. David Vitter, both of
Louisiana, this bill enjoyed broad bipartisan support, passing the House of
Representatives with a margin of 322–99 and the Senate by 84–16.
【在 T******g 的大作中提到】
: "IN THE SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES"
: 没过参议院？
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d*****n
发帖数: 908 | 21 另一个地方提到该法案实际上是留了后门的，但越来越多的州通过了Emergency Power
Legislation，禁止收枪。图中红色的州是通过了这个法律的
http://suburbansurvivalist.wordpress.com/2010/10/14/gun-confisc
States and Localities. The 2006 federal law has major loopholes that leave
room for states to confiscate firearms in some circumstances. I’m not a
lawyer so won’t attempt to parse all the ins-and-outs, it’s enough to know
they can. During major social uprisings, natural disasters, marital law,
etc., they could confiscate weapons.
However, a growing number of states are passing “emergency powers”
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d*****n
发帖数: 908 | 22 图贴过来。
Power
know
【在 d*****n 的大作中提到】
: 另一个地方提到该法案实际上是留了后门的，但越来越多的州通过了Emergency Power
: Legislation，禁止收枪。图中红色的州是通过了这个法律的
: http://suburbansurvivalist.wordpress.com/2010/10/14/gun-confisc
: States and Localities. The 2006 federal law has major loopholes that leave
: room for states to confiscate firearms in some circumstances. I’m not a
: lawyer so won’t attempt to parse all the ins-and-outs, it’s enough to know
: they can. During major social uprisings, natural disasters, marital law,
: etc., they could confiscate weapons.
: However, a growing number of states are passing “emergency powers”
: legislation that prevents firearm confiscation during emergencies.
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b******o
发帖数: 5644 | |
N*L
发帖数: 899 | 24 我们这边p事没有... 不算...
【在 s****r 的大作中提到】
: 看电视新闻， 很可怕啊
: 唯一的安慰是乱党也无法横行
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