c****d
发帖数: 681 | 1 包含运费了，家防， 和那个461刀的590A1比，如何？多谢了。 |
g*****h
发帖数: 642 | 2 我当时只仔细研究了remington和mossberg。去店里也只比较了这两个。我觉得这三家
的quality都差不多，不过我觉得应该是 Remington 870 ~ Mossberg 500 ~ Benelli
Nova
Mossberg 590A1 还是有很多升级的地方，毕竟是给Marine用的，枪管加厚，部件全金
属，我在店里试了一下，觉得不用上膛也是一件大杀器，明显比其他的结实。而且买枪
真的是个人喜好。我当时在网上做完research还犹豫不决，到了店里一摸，立刻就定了
。这3种枪按钮的布局完全不同，每个人都有自己的习惯，你到时候一摸就知道。所以
我觉得摸实物才是最重要的
【在 c****d 的大作中提到】
: 包含运费了，家防， 和那个461刀的590A1比，如何？多谢了。
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c****d
发帖数: 681 | 3 恩，多谢。有道理。还是周末去摸一下。也许摸完就有一见钟情了：）
【在 g*****h 的大作中提到】
: 我当时只仔细研究了remington和mossberg。去店里也只比较了这两个。我觉得这三家
: 的quality都差不多，不过我觉得应该是 Remington 870 ~ Mossberg 500 ~ Benelli
: Nova
: Mossberg 590A1 还是有很多升级的地方，毕竟是给Marine用的，枪管加厚，部件全金
: 属，我在店里试了一下，觉得不用上膛也是一件大杀器，明显比其他的结实。而且买枪
: 真的是个人喜好。我当时在网上做完research还犹豫不决，到了店里一摸，立刻就定了
: 。这3种枪按钮的布局完全不同，每个人都有自己的习惯，你到时候一摸就知道。所以
: 我觉得摸实物才是最重要的
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g*****h
发帖数: 642 | 4 那是，我当时去之前还没什么想法，到店里一摸，觉得mossberg太舒服了，那手感，那
曲线，那button，那皮肤。。。 oops
【在 c****d 的大作中提到】
: 恩，多谢。有道理。还是周末去摸一下。也许摸完就有一见钟情了：）
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n***s
发帖数: 10056 | 5 How about Benelli? Did you 摸 it as well?
I read that Benelli's quality is much higher than R & M.
【在 g*****h 的大作中提到】
: 那是，我当时去之前还没什么想法，到店里一摸，觉得mossberg太舒服了，那手感，那
: 曲线，那button，那皮肤。。。 oops
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g*****h
发帖数: 642 | 6 哈，就是没有摸Benelli，呵呵， 不过我看了一下他家的保险和上膛纽的设计，不喜欢
，还是喜欢mossberg的
【在 n***s 的大作中提到】
: How about Benelli? Did you 摸 it as well?
: I read that Benelli's quality is much higher than R & M.
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S**********s
发帖数: 4534 | 7 To sum it up:
Ergonomics: Mossy > Remmy = Beelli
Reliability: Mossy ~= Remmy ~= Benelli
Available Parts : Mossy = Remmy > Benelli
Versatility: Mossy ~= Remmy > Benelli
Quality: Mossy =< Remmy < Benelli
Mossy is made for combat, it has loose parts, it rattles, it tolerates
dirt like an AK. The dual extractor will not fail you as long as your
ammo has a rim for it to catch.
it is combat proven, adopted by the military since the 70s.
Though Mossy is plenty reliable, the finish and overall feel is
just..cheap.
Benelli is on a whole different level in terms of quality.
accessory and parts wise, benelli has significantly less available after
market parts and upgrades. If you want to convert your nova into a field
shotgun or clay gun, you might not find a field barrel for sale, but you
wont have trouble finding side saddle and mag tube extension.
in terms of ergo, I personally believe that mossy leaves both
competitors in the dust. Mossy's safety switch is a superior design to
crossbolts. it is easier to operate and is visible to the shooter even
in shooting stance; the action release lever is also easy to operate.
You don't have reach out for it.
But for short people, mossy usually comes with a long length of pull.
This could be solved with modified forends and/or stock, at an
additional cost. so it is important that you get your hands on them
before you buy them. |
g*****h
发帖数: 642 | 8 哈哈，老大果然精辟，我就是觉得mossberg reliable 而且操作起来极其顺手。。。
【在 S**********s 的大作中提到】
: To sum it up:
: Ergonomics: Mossy > Remmy = Beelli
: Reliability: Mossy ~= Remmy ~= Benelli
: Available Parts : Mossy = Remmy > Benelli
: Versatility: Mossy ~= Remmy > Benelli
: Quality: Mossy =< Remmy < Benelli
: Mossy is made for combat, it has loose parts, it rattles, it tolerates
: dirt like an AK. The dual extractor will not fail you as long as your
: ammo has a rim for it to catch.
: it is combat proven, adopted by the military since the 70s.
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a***a
发帖数: 8941 | 9 我比较喜欢Mossberg的保险位置。这是一大亮点。
但是我觉得Nova的手感更好。 |
P*******o
发帖数: 460 | 10 $380价格应该是不错，我们这里local的Dick's Sport对Nova要价是$450.
搭车问个问题，Benelli Supernova的ComforTech和Pistol Grip二者相比有什么优缺点
？Pistol Grip会更有利于稳定持枪吗？
Nova和SuperNova最近好像不太好买，各个网站都缺货的样子。 |
S**********s
发帖数: 4534 | 11 not necessarily. mostly it is a personal preference.
but most times pistol grips are more forward towards the center of balance,
so it might help with manipulating the weapon; the thinner grip also allows
for utilization of all fingers for a tighter and stronger grip, which also
enhances the manipulation of the weapon and reduces the strain on the wrist.
this is very noticeable during a weak hand reload.
【在 P*******o 的大作中提到】
: $380价格应该是不错，我们这里local的Dick's Sport对Nova要价是$450.
: 搭车问个问题，Benelli Supernova的ComforTech和Pistol Grip二者相比有什么优缺点
: ？Pistol Grip会更有利于稳定持枪吗？
: Nova和SuperNova最近好像不太好买，各个网站都缺货的样子。
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S**********s
发帖数: 4534 | 12 and one last thing, the shell riser/carrier tray in remington 870 and nova
is always in the down position, where as in mossberg it only comes down when
the bolt is rearward/action open.
Remington:
Mossberg:
how is this significant?
your thumb may get caught between the lip and the receiver, and if you wear
glove, it is very likely to get caught as well.
this problem does not exist on mossbergs. however, if you look closely at
the white arrow, this is where the tip of your thumb can run into during a
speed reload, so make sure you ALWAYS trim your thumb nail as short as
possible, otherwise, ouch. |
c****x
发帖数: 1270 | 13 粗使的枪一定是mossberg！其貌不扬，但是可靠。 |
