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GunsAndGears版 - Waffle House Customer Shoots and Kills Armed Robber
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f*********n
发帖数: 11154
1
http://www.gunsandammo.com/2012/01/24/waffle-house-customer-sho
On Saturday, January 21, 2012, at a Waffle House in Spartanburg, S.C., a
customer with a concealed weapon permit drew his handgun and verbally
challenged two robbers, at least one of whom was armed with a handgun.
According to WACH, when the armed customer ordered the robbers to wait for
the Spartanburg County Sheriff’s deputies to arrive, one of the robbers
pointed his gun at the customer, who then fired his own gun, killing the
armed robber, identified as 19-year-old Dante Lamont Williams. The second
robber, identified as Kenneth Jowan Craig, 29, was later arrested and
charged with armed robbery and possession of a weapon during a violent crime.
In this case, the only person shot was the armed robber who pointed his gun
at the legally armed citizen. However, despite this relatively positive
outcome, this incident brings to light several very real concerns. Remember,
just because you’re armed doesn’t mean you have to take action. Taking
action should not be “instinct,” but rather a reasonable decision made
based on the specific factors surrounding your particular incident.
Deciding to engage two armed robbers is brave, but probably not very smart.
In fact, even when there seems to be only one suspect, you better assume
there are more. Situational awareness is a huge factor. Even after engaging
a threat, you must train yourself to scan for additional threats. If you get
so focused on the bad guy you just shot, you could very well be shot by his
friend while you’re admiring your work.
Another controversial issue is giving verbal commands to an armed criminal.
Action vs. reaction tells us when you do so, the bad guy will get the first
round off most of the time. I’ve seen this in force-on-force scenarios, and
it enables a bad guy with his muzzle lowered or pointed at his own head,
for instance, to point the gun at you and squeeze of a round before you can
pull the trigger – even when your gun is pointed at him and you’re ready
to fire. If at all possible, issue verbal commands from behind cover.
In a crowded Waffle House, issuing a verbal command to two armed robbers
could potentially endanger others inside the business. A verbal command
might also prompt a gunfight which otherwise might not have occurred. Would
the legally armed citizen in the Waffle House have been justified in
shooting the armed robber without giving a verbal warning?
Consider these possibilities now so that you will have a plan should you
find yourself in a similar situation. Of course, your plan will have to be
flexible and take into account the “totality of the circumstances”
surrounding the incident. Do yourself a favor and think about these things
ahead of time. Don’t rely on marksmanship alone — that’s the “easy”
part.
C*******d
发帖数: 15836
2
赞英雄!
不过这个评论员真是太Pussy了。虽然说得有道理,但是什么都侦察明白了估计黄瓜菜
都凉了。
s*******n
发帖数: 12995
3
这只是说明被打死的抢劫犯根本没打算或有胆量杀人。这是场豪赌,赢了得英雄的名声
,输了赔上自己的命和一个家庭的幸福。值不值自己决定了。
h*********2
发帖数: 2508
4
应该赞一个。
我原来公司对面有家星巴克,在威斯康星街上,几年前发生过一起血案,一个黑鬼进去
抢钱,钱到手了仍然把五个店员全打死了,为的灭口。而且全都跪在地上, Execution
style. 试想其中一个如果起来反抗,即使搭上性命,其他四个一起起来可能也不一定
是这个结局。不是鼓吹英雄冒险,但是切记不可期待罪犯有怜悯之心
C*******d
发帖数: 15836
5
嗯。除非没有任何的反抗机会,否则我是绝对要反抗的。
把自己的生命交到这帮畜生手里,不是我的风格。

Execution

【在 h*********2 的大作中提到】
: 应该赞一个。
: 我原来公司对面有家星巴克,在威斯康星街上,几年前发生过一起血案,一个黑鬼进去
: 抢钱,钱到手了仍然把五个店员全打死了,为的灭口。而且全都跪在地上, Execution
: style. 试想其中一个如果起来反抗,即使搭上性命,其他四个一起起来可能也不一定
: 是这个结局。不是鼓吹英雄冒险,但是切记不可期待罪犯有怜悯之心

s*******n
发帖数: 12995
6
在这种情况下,要是我,我会尽量keep low profile,更不会激怒歹徒,当然我的手是
不会离开枪把的,从拔枪到射出第一发子弹只要1.2秒,只要歹徒注意力不在我身上,
他是一点机会都没有的。我会观察,要是只是抢柜台里的钱,我不会出枪,但要要是伤
了人了,那就毫不犹豫的出枪,敢伤人的歹徒肯定是亡命徒。
p******a
发帖数: 413
7

當你遇到一個從發現到瞄準僅需要1.19秒的歹徒,你就輸了

【在 s*******n 的大作中提到】
: 在这种情况下,要是我,我会尽量keep low profile,更不会激怒歹徒,当然我的手是
: 不会离开枪把的,从拔枪到射出第一发子弹只要1.2秒,只要歹徒注意力不在我身上,
: 他是一点机会都没有的。我会观察,要是只是抢柜台里的钱,我不会出枪,但要要是伤
: 了人了,那就毫不犹豫的出枪,敢伤人的歹徒肯定是亡命徒。

s*******n
发帖数: 12995
8
开玩笑,他注意力都不在我身上,不可能这么快,别忘了,那是一屋子的人。要是看见我
动了,他再动,还能比我
快,那至少是grand master了。
这就是loaded carry的重要性了,要是这时候再上膛,黄花菜和你的尸体都凉了。

【在 p******a 的大作中提到】
:
: 當你遇到一個從發現到瞄準僅需要1.19秒的歹徒,你就輸了

C*******d
发帖数: 15836
9
按报道作者的思维,你还真得要确定劫匪是不是grand master。如果是,你还是别反击
了。

见我

【在 s*******n 的大作中提到】
: 开玩笑,他注意力都不在我身上,不可能这么快,别忘了,那是一屋子的人。要是看见我
: 动了,他再动,还能比我
: 快,那至少是grand master了。
: 这就是loaded carry的重要性了,要是这时候再上膛,黄花菜和你的尸体都凉了。

h*********2
发帖数: 2508
10
成为grand master是需要智力,知识,和意志的,
这三点都是黑鬼不可能具备的。
具备这三点的人是不会屑得抢cashier的,也不会沦落到需要抢cashier的。
所以碰到黑grand master的几率为〇。论证完毕, =D

【在 C*******d 的大作中提到】
: 按报道作者的思维,你还真得要确定劫匪是不是grand master。如果是,你还是别反击
: 了。
:
: 见我

C*******d
发帖数: 15836
11
大明星当小偷的很多啊。
看看这三个国际象棋的master:
http://eideard.com/2011/11/13/three-young-african-americans-rec
还有,曾经一个白人带黑人面具作案无数回长时间迷惑警方。
所以,综上所述,一个带着黑人面具的有不良嗜好的白人grand master作案的可能性还
是不能被100%排除的,呵呵呵。
而黑人警察被开除的也经常发生。他们的训练也不见得很差。

【在 h*********2 的大作中提到】
: 成为grand master是需要智力,知识,和意志的,
: 这三点都是黑鬼不可能具备的。
: 具备这三点的人是不会屑得抢cashier的,也不会沦落到需要抢cashier的。
: 所以碰到黑grand master的几率为〇。论证完毕, =D

s*******n
发帖数: 12995
12
唉,我的意思是要动脑子,像文中那人,先大声命令歹徒放下武器,等待警察,那真的
是找死,他不死是命大。我觉的要做的是乘歹徒不备打冷枪,但只有歹徒显示了凶性,
打冷枪才不会担上法律责任。
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