M****S
发帖数: 33 | 1 Sorry, chinese typing too slow.
I am going to get a 1911 soon.
Just saw the horrible story about husband shooting wife and himself.
I want to ask everyone who has a gun:
Was there ever a situation you thought about using a gun to solve the
problem when you fight with your wife? I know the chance to do that is only
1 out of 10 million. But seriously, do you guys ever, think toward that
direction when you have really bad fight, for example, when you caught your
wife is cheating.
另请求证一个密切相关的话题，这是以前听别人说的：
美国枪支的最大受害者是持枪人的配偶，很多家庭犯罪都是以持枪人枪杀配偶告终。
Is this true ???? I want to protect my family. I also have occasional fight
with wife, but I don't want to make this a big threat for her and for myself.
PS: I think we all saw Mr. and Mrs. Smith, which proves couples will shoot each other on right occasion.
PSS: I love my wife and I don't think this will ever happen to us. But I am outlining the worst case senario. I believe this is something we all need to think about. I bet the guy who killed his wife didn't think about his. He should sold his gun if he is in the middle of a divorce. | X***y
发帖数: 3947 | 2 听着象坑儿，不过还是跳一下。听其言，观其行。
建议你还是不要买。你想到这一步说明家里也不和谐，不说警察批不批你，玩得不开心
何必呢？
only
your
【在 M****S 的大作中提到】
: Sorry, chinese typing too slow.
: I am going to get a 1911 soon.
: Just saw the horrible story about husband shooting wife and himself.
: I want to ask everyone who has a gun:
: Was there ever a situation you thought about using a gun to solve the
: problem when you fight with your wife? I know the chance to do that is only
: 1 out of 10 million. But seriously, do you guys ever, think toward that
: direction when you have really bad fight, for example, when you caught your
: wife is cheating.
: 另请求证一个密切相关的话题，这是以前听别人说的：
| T*R
发帖数: 25894 | 3 I think if you caught your wife cheatinng, you can kill her, that's called
crime of passion. | M****S
发帖数: 33 | 4 come on, this is my 3ird post in five years, I don't have time for a ken.
Well, I am outlining the worst case senario.
I believe this is something we all need to think about.
【在 X***y 的大作中提到】
: 听着象坑儿，不过还是跳一下。听其言，观其行。
: 建议你还是不要买。你想到这一步说明家里也不和谐，不说警察批不批你，玩得不开心
: 何必呢？
:
: only
: your
| M****S
发帖数: 33 | 5 That's a good one, dude.
I am sure you are kiding, but on the otherside this is also possible. That's
why I want to have this kind of disscussion here.
【在 T*R 的大作中提到】
: I think if you caught your wife cheatinng, you can kill her, that's called
: crime of passion.
| k**********i
发帖数: 8706 | 6 枪不杀人，人杀人
怎么防止你干掉你老婆？或者是怎么防止你老婆干掉你？这个话题就太深奥了 | T*R
发帖数: 25894 | 7 I wasn't kidding, because you mentioned that situation in your post. Google
daniel sickles. But of course, his had connections, you may not walk free in
this case.
btw, to prevent 夫妻对射 is easy, just buy only one gun....lol
's
【在 M****S 的大作中提到】
: That's a good one, dude.
: I am sure you are kiding, but on the otherside this is also possible. That's
: why I want to have this kind of disscussion here.
| M****S
发帖数: 33 | 8 Good input.
I believe everything is conserved. While guns offer the power to protect our
families ( which is crutial for us as a minority in this coutry) and the
fun ( shooting range), the down side is how to avoid " passionate crime",
which I believe no one wants that.
【在 k**********i 的大作中提到】
: 枪不杀人，人杀人
: 怎么防止你干掉你老婆？或者是怎么防止你老婆干掉你？这个话题就太深奥了
| M****S
发帖数: 33 | 9 that sounds like a smart way...
【在 T*R 的大作中提到】
: I wasn't kidding, because you mentioned that situation in your post. Google
: daniel sickles. But of course, his had connections, you may not walk free in
: this case.
: btw, to prevent 夫妻对射 is easy, just buy only one gun....lol
:
:
: 's
| X***y
发帖数: 3947 | 10 你没理解中文的意思.强不是唯一的passionate crime工具。参考NJ的铊杀师姐。
our
【在 M****S 的大作中提到】
: Good input.
: I believe everything is conserved. While guns offer the power to protect our
: families ( which is crutial for us as a minority in this coutry) and the
: fun ( shooting range), the down side is how to avoid " passionate crime",
: which I believe no one wants that.
| | | c*******l
发帖数: 7820 | 11 难道就行他射老婆，我就建议他老婆搞个水枪也射他。
【在 k**********i 的大作中提到】
: 枪不杀人，人杀人
: 怎么防止你干掉你老婆？或者是怎么防止你老婆干掉你？这个话题就太深奥了
| M****S
发帖数: 33 | 12 I don't think Thallium kill is passionate at all, which need to plan ahead
and carry out the plan in the time of hours---but a gun can do all these in
seconds.
【在 X***y 的大作中提到】
: 你没理解中文的意思.强不是唯一的passionate crime工具。参考NJ的铊杀师姐。
:
: our
| X***y
发帖数: 3947 | 13 good point, try this one:
http://www.southphillyreview.com/news/police_report-73840862.ht
in
【在 M****S 的大作中提到】
: I don't think Thallium kill is passionate at all, which need to plan ahead
: and carry out the plan in the time of hours---but a gun can do all these in
: seconds.
| x**********3
发帖数: 1572 | 14 我也有个问题。。。。想买车，但怎么防止夫妻对撞？ | C*******r
发帖数: 10345 | 15 俺每天看到厨房里的菜刀，冰凿，就怕那天在床上被像本能里那样... | T*R
发帖数: 25894 | 16 If I get that kind of sex, I'd take my chance.
【在 C*******r 的大作中提到】
: 俺每天看到厨房里的菜刀，冰凿，就怕那天在床上被像本能里那样...
| x**********3
发帖数: 1572 | 17 那你先得自觉自愿地让人绑起来。
【在 C*******r 的大作中提到】
: 俺每天看到厨房里的菜刀，冰凿，就怕那天在床上被像本能里那样...
| c**********d
发帖数: 2428 | 18 If you have to ask, then don't get that 1911, or whatever other gun you may
want to have. | L********1
发帖数: 710 | | k**********i
发帖数: 8706 | 20 这个看上去像是正解！
【在 L********1 的大作中提到】
: 俺觉得比较安全的做法是先离婚，再买枪。
| | | s******5
发帖数: 478 | 21 伙计,你有这想法有两中可能:
一种是从没有过枪,想的过多了,枪说是危险之物,但也是平常之物,你不会轻易拿刀砍你
太太,也就不会用枪.
二种是既然你问这样的问题,你潜意识可能有这个念头,你可能有百万分之一的杀(伤害)
家人的潜性格和动机才能有这样的问题. 因为对于一般人如我来说,压根就没有任何念
头拿枪对家人,设想都不会设想,退一万步也不会想,也不会想起问这样的问题,更不会做
.
自己分析一下吧,如果接近第二者(比方你有轻易会煽你太太一个大耳光之类的行动),你
还是别买枪. | o**d
发帖数: 3080 | 22 和我的想法一樣，剛出去了一下，就被你先發了。
害)
【在 s******5 的大作中提到】
: 伙计,你有这想法有两中可能:
: 一种是从没有过枪,想的过多了,枪说是危险之物,但也是平常之物,你不会轻易拿刀砍你
: 太太,也就不会用枪.
: 二种是既然你问这样的问题,你潜意识可能有这个念头,你可能有百万分之一的杀(伤害)
: 家人的潜性格和动机才能有这样的问题. 因为对于一般人如我来说,压根就没有任何念
: 头拿枪对家人,设想都不会设想,退一万步也不会想,也不会想起问这样的问题,更不会做
: .
: 自己分析一下吧,如果接近第二者(比方你有轻易会煽你太太一个大耳光之类的行动),你
: 还是别买枪.
| f*********n
发帖数: 11154 | 23 re
害)
【在 s******5 的大作中提到】
: 伙计,你有这想法有两中可能:
: 一种是从没有过枪,想的过多了,枪说是危险之物,但也是平常之物,你不会轻易拿刀砍你
: 太太,也就不会用枪.
: 二种是既然你问这样的问题,你潜意识可能有这个念头,你可能有百万分之一的杀(伤害)
: 家人的潜性格和动机才能有这样的问题. 因为对于一般人如我来说,压根就没有任何念
: 头拿枪对家人,设想都不会设想,退一万步也不会想,也不会想起问这样的问题,更不会做
: .
: 自己分析一下吧,如果接近第二者(比方你有轻易会煽你太太一个大耳光之类的行动),你
: 还是别买枪.
| q******n
发帖数: 649 | 24 枪弹分离，且两支枪口径不同
你的枪的子弹由你老婆保管
你老婆的子弹由你保管 | s******u
发帖数: 538 | 25 Seriously dude, if you think there is even a slight chance you might use a
gun in an argument, you shouldn't own one.
And if you take Hollywood as real, you definitely shouldn't have a gun.
Finally, if you contemplate about the possibility that your wife might cheat
, there is a trust issue there.
only
your
【在 M****S 的大作中提到】
: Sorry, chinese typing too slow.
: I am going to get a 1911 soon.
: Just saw the horrible story about husband shooting wife and himself.
: I want to ask everyone who has a gun:
: Was there ever a situation you thought about using a gun to solve the
: problem when you fight with your wife? I know the chance to do that is only
: 1 out of 10 million. But seriously, do you guys ever, think toward that
: direction when you have really bad fight, for example, when you caught your
: wife is cheating.
: 另请求证一个密切相关的话题，这是以前听别人说的：
| H****r
发帖数: 16240 | | j******f
发帖数: 825 | 27 可以理解夫射妻，但是不能理解妻如何射夫。 如能，此夫有福啊！ | S*******T
发帖数: 5156 | 28 你out了，现在那么多州基佬结婚都合法了。。。。。
【在 j******f 的大作中提到】
: 可以理解夫射妻，但是不能理解妻如何射夫。 如能，此夫有福啊！
| S*******T
发帖数: 5156 | 29 要是把老婆捉奸在床的话，我觉得杀奸夫还是能得到广大人民群众的同情和赞赏的。要
是杀的是鬼佬，结合现在本站讨论外f的风头，那楼主就成英雄人物了。强烈建议3k授
予未明脊梁称号。 | q**u
发帖数: 12289 | 30 No, and if think you ever might, you shouldn't be getting a gun.
only
your
【在 M****S 的大作中提到】
: Sorry, chinese typing too slow.
: I am going to get a 1911 soon.
: Just saw the horrible story about husband shooting wife and himself.
: I want to ask everyone who has a gun:
: Was there ever a situation you thought about using a gun to solve the
: problem when you fight with your wife? I know the chance to do that is only
: 1 out of 10 million. But seriously, do you guys ever, think toward that
: direction when you have really bad fight, for example, when you caught your
: wife is cheating.
: 另请求证一个密切相关的话题，这是以前听别人说的：
| | | f******h
发帖数: 609 | 31 Not exactly right, but guns do increase the fetalities in domestic voilence:
***************************************
Guns increase the probability of death in incidents of domestic violence.26
Firearms were used to kill more than two-thirds of spouse and ex-spouse
homicide victims between 1990 and 2005.27
Domestic violence assaults involving a firearm are 23 times more likely to
result in death than those involving other weapons or bodily force.28
Abused women are five times more likely to be killed by their abuser if the
abuser owns a firearm.29
A recent survey of female domestic violence shelter residents in California
found that more than one third (36.7%) reported having been threatened or
harmed with a firearm.30 In nearly two thirds (64.5%) of the households that
contained a firearm, the intimate partner had used the firearm against the
victim, usually threatening to shoot or kill the victim.31
***************************************
sources:
http://www.lcav.org/statistics-polling/gun_violence_statistics.
http://www.lcav.org/content/domestic_violence.pdf
Can anyone provide some statisitics from a pro-gun website?
美国枪支的最大受害者是持枪人的配偶，很多家庭犯罪都是以持枪人枪杀配偶告终: ..
.................
【在 M****S 的大作中提到】
: I don't think Thallium kill is passionate at all, which need to plan ahead
: and carry out the plan in the time of hours---but a gun can do all these in
: seconds.
| G******U
发帖数: 4211 | 32 能杀自己家人的东西太多了。多一个枪不算多，没枪也不少。你上厨房和车库看看。
only
your
【在 M****S 的大作中提到】
: Sorry, chinese typing too slow.
: I am going to get a 1911 soon.
: Just saw the horrible story about husband shooting wife and himself.
: I want to ask everyone who has a gun:
: Was there ever a situation you thought about using a gun to solve the
: problem when you fight with your wife? I know the chance to do that is only
: 1 out of 10 million. But seriously, do you guys ever, think toward that
: direction when you have really bad fight, for example, when you caught your
: wife is cheating.
: 另请求证一个密切相关的话题，这是以前听别人说的：
| M****S
发帖数: 33 | 33 Thanks a lot for the all the replies, guys.
Many people's opinion is that if you ever think about it, you probably
should not get a gun.
But I wish to point out that some people ( like me) always think about the
worst case senerio before making a big move. So "thinking about it" just
like USA and Russia thinking about what will happens if there is a global
nuclear war, and like most men thinking about sleeping with models victoria'
s secrets, it most probably never going to happen but it's better to ask "what if".
Yes, plenty of other thing will kill as well, but it's hard to beat
statisitics:
"Domestic violence assaults involving a firearm are 23 times more likely to
result in death than those involving other weapons or bodily force".
So my conclusion is I will get the gun, and I will sell it ( this might be
hard) or locked it in the shooting range if there is tense in the home.
Again, I would like to emphasize having faith and taking precautions are two
different issues - let's all learn something from other's tragedies. | g****r
发帖数: 1607 | 34 听起来你家里不太平，还是不要买了。
victoria'
what if".
【在 M****S 的大作中提到】
: Thanks a lot for the all the replies, guys.
: Many people's opinion is that if you ever think about it, you probably
: should not get a gun.
: But I wish to point out that some people ( like me) always think about the
: worst case senerio before making a big move. So "thinking about it" just
: like USA and Russia thinking about what will happens if there is a global
: nuclear war, and like most men thinking about sleeping with models victoria'
: s secrets, it most probably never going to happen but it's better to ask "what if".
: Yes, plenty of other thing will kill as well, but it's hard to beat
: statisitics:
| S**********s
发帖数: 4534 | |
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