c**d
发帖数: 3888 | 1 I'd like to chronicle the building of my California-legal AR-15 here with updated photos. Hope you guys will share and enjoy the experience through these pictures.
This is not meant to be a step-by-step instruction. You can find plenty of those on the internet.
The parts:
Lower:
* Stripped lower: Noveske (currently in 10-day wait)
* Lower parts kit (LPK) by G&R Tactical
* Buttstock by Magpul
* Buffer tube, buffer spring and buffer by RRA
* California-compliance bullet-button kit
* 10-round ma |
c**d
发帖数: 3888 | 2 Then came the upper receiver, the carry handle, and the charging handle. The only thing missing from a complete upper is the handguard, for which I'm still searching.
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c**d
发帖数: 3888 | 3 Buttstock. Got it off ebay, without the buffer, tube, etc. Just a plain
buttstock: |
p****n
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c**d
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p****n
发帖数: 225 | 6 奥，你要注册才行。
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q**u
发帖数: 12289 | 7 好，回头俺给你出个全集
【在 c**d 的大作中提到】
: I'd like to chronicle the building of my California-legal AR-15 here with updated photos. Hope you guys will share and enjoy the experience through these pictures.
: This is not meant to be a step-by-step instruction. You can find plenty of those on the internet.
: The parts:
: Lower:
: * Stripped lower: Noveske (currently in 10-day wait)
: * Lower parts kit (LPK) by G&R Tactical
: * Buttstock by Magpul
: * Buffer tube, buffer spring and buffer by RRA
: * California-compliance bullet-button kit
: * 10-round ma
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f*********n
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c**d
发帖数: 3888 | 9 Thanks, qwyu. After checking out Phelan's link, I realized I forgot to
order a pistol grip. Now I'm gonna have to look around for one. |
c**d
发帖数: 3888 | 10 Sorry for the delay. My new AR-15 is almost complete. Here are the
pictures:
The 10-round CA-legal CProduct magazines arrived. 44mag.com rocks!
The magazine spring felt a little too stiff. So I decided to cut down a
loop. Felt much better afterwards: |
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c**d
发帖数: 3888 | 11 Finally got the lower after the 10-day wait. Of course, I had to buy a gun
lock, thanks to the wise policymakers in California. |
c**d
发帖数: 3888 | 12 Got the buffer, buffer spring, and tube from coldwarshooters.com. They ship
fast!
Ran to a gunshop and bought the cheapest pistol grip I could find for $10. |
c**d
发帖数: 3888 | 13 The bullet-button kit from Cold War Shooters. This little thing makes the
gun CA-legal.
Installed BB and the enhanced trigger guard on the lower: |
c**d
发帖数: 3888 | 14 As shown earlier, the screw attaching the pistol grip to the lower is an
Allen screw, but since you have to insert the screw all the way into the
pistol grip, a regular Allen wrench is too short for this. Luckily, I got
just the right tool for the job.
Took me about an hour with a buddy to put together the lower. It's easier
than I thought. During the assembly, a spring and a tiny metal pin
accidentally flew out. Luckily, I have a strong magnet, and I used it to
find them on my messy floor. |
c**d
发帖数: 3888 | 15 Almost complete! Now all I need is the handguard, which is still on some UPS
truck somewhere. |
b*****e
发帖数: 819 | 16 枪管上边有个长得象铁丝的东西是什么呀?
UPS
【在 c**d 的大作中提到】
: Almost complete! Now all I need is the handguard, which is still on some UPS
: truck somewhere.
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H****r
发帖数: 16240 | 17 赞这个，好像是拧那个set screw来锁死/正常？
由此可见CA政客之无耻
【在 c**d 的大作中提到】
: The bullet-button kit from Cold War Shooters. This little thing makes the
: gun CA-legal.
: Installed BB and the enhanced trigger guard on the lower:
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p****n
发帖数: 225 | 18 呵呵，没想整个30的弹匣。如果你在2000年前已经在加州，还是可以拥有的。具体看
CALGUNS。当然私下我也可以解释。 |
q**u
发帖数: 12289 | 19 拧上就再也卸不下来了？
【在 H****r 的大作中提到】
: 赞这个，好像是拧那个set screw来锁死/正常？
: 由此可见CA政客之无耻
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q**u
发帖数: 12289 | 20 导气管
【在 b*****e 的大作中提到】
: 枪管上边有个长得象铁丝的东西是什么呀?
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: UPS
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q**u
发帖数: 12289 | 21 查了一下这个东西怎么用。加州的法律太愚蠢了。。。
【在 c**d 的大作中提到】
: The bullet-button kit from Cold War Shooters. This little thing makes the
: gun CA-legal.
: Installed BB and the enhanced trigger guard on the lower:
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H****r
发帖数: 16240 | 22 哈哈，可惜AK类好像还没有这样的？
btw，MAK-90应该是侧面没有导轨的吧？
昨天见到一支，长管带两脚架，品相极好，但侧面有导轨。
【在 q**u 的大作中提到】
: 查了一下这个东西怎么用。加州的法律太愚蠢了。。。
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p****n
发帖数: 225 | 23 AK也一样，也是一个小东西挡住那个推弹匣的卡笋。一定要用的尖的东西（TOOL) 才能
推卡笋，取下弹匣。
【在 H****r 的大作中提到】
: 哈哈，可惜AK类好像还没有这样的？
: btw，MAK-90应该是侧面没有导轨的吧？
: 昨天见到一支，长管带两脚架，品相极好，但侧面有导轨。
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H****r
发帖数: 16240 | 24 那是老一些的，
他这个是把螺丝拧紧了就锁住，拧掉螺丝就可以当正常的释放钮用吧？
【在 p****n 的大作中提到】
: AK也一样，也是一个小东西挡住那个推弹匣的卡笋。一定要用的尖的东西（TOOL) 才能
: 推卡笋，取下弹匣。
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p****n
发帖数: 225 | 25 那个ＡＫ也一样，取下那个ＢＢ，就是一个正常的ＡＫ了。一样的。当然我也可能没明
白你的问题。
【在 H****r 的大作中提到】
: 那是老一些的，
: 他这个是把螺丝拧紧了就锁住，拧掉螺丝就可以当正常的释放钮用吧？
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q**u
发帖数: 12289 | 26 mak-90出厂的时候没导轨。
【在 H****r 的大作中提到】
: 哈哈，可惜AK类好像还没有这样的？
: btw，MAK-90应该是侧面没有导轨的吧？
: 昨天见到一支，长管带两脚架，品相极好，但侧面有导轨。
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H****r
发帖数: 16240 | 27 我明白了，AK其实更简单，加上去一个零件
AR则是更换了一个零件
……政客啊政客
【在 p****n 的大作中提到】
: 那个ＡＫ也一样，取下那个ＢＢ，就是一个正常的ＡＫ了。一样的。当然我也可能没明
: 白你的问题。
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G****s
发帖数: 3523 | 28 so nice!
congrats!
UPS
【在 c**d 的大作中提到】
: Almost complete! Now all I need is the handguard, which is still on some UPS
: truck somewhere.
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c**d
发帖数: 3888 | 29 There are two types of CA-legal magazine drops. One is the bullet button
that I use, the other is the Prince 50. What you're talking about is
probably the Prince 50.
The bullet button can be pressed using any sharp object, such as the tip of
bullet. Hence the name.
【在 H****r 的大作中提到】
: 那是老一些的，
: 他这个是把螺丝拧紧了就锁住，拧掉螺丝就可以当正常的释放钮用吧？
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c**d
发帖数: 3888 | 30 I can still take off the bullet button and put on the regular mag release
that came with my lower parts kit. But that would be illegal in CA.
【在 q**u 的大作中提到】
: 拧上就再也卸不下来了？
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c**d
发帖数: 3888 | 31 Handguard is here! Photos will be uploaded later |
H****r
发帖数: 16240 | 32 Con!
是带导轨的护木，还是标准的？
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: Handguard is here! Photos will be uploaded later
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p****n
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c**d
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【在 H****r 的大作中提到】
: Con!
: 是带导轨的护木，还是标准的？
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c**d
发帖数: 3888 | 35 $1160. Probably another $100 for all the shipping, DROS, and the stupid
gun lock that I was forced to buy.
【在 p****n 的大作中提到】
: total cost?
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c**d
发帖数: 3888 | 36 I like the more traditional looks, so it's quite basic. No fancy extras
like rails, optics, etc. But since it's my first, it's the sweetest! |
c**d
发帖数: 3888 | 37 It weighs at 7 lbs. Side by side comparison with Remington 700, with the stock collapsed. |
c**d
发帖数: 3888 | 38 don't worry about the magazines. they're legal |
q**u
发帖数: 12289 | 39 赞
【在 c**d 的大作中提到】
: I like the more traditional looks, so it's quite basic. No fancy extras
: like rails, optics, etc. But since it's my first, it's the sweetest!
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p****n
发帖数: 225 | 40 $1160? 这么贵,还是你挑的都是好的PARTS？ 这样，还不如在枪展和COLDWARSHOOTER买
一个现成的。好像还有导轨。
今天我也去枪店看了好像Noveske 的Stripped lower是比较贵。 |
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q**u
发帖数: 12289 | 41 他那都是好件儿，省钱不是目的。呵呵
【在 p****n 的大作中提到】
: $1160? 这么贵,还是你挑的都是好的PARTS？ 这样，还不如在枪展和COLDWARSHOOTER买
: 一个现成的。好像还有导轨。
: 今天我也去枪店看了好像Noveske 的Stripped lower是比较贵。
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p****n
发帖数: 225 | 42 谢谢，明白了。我现在是在自己装还是买一个之间犹豫。
【在 q**u 的大作中提到】
: 他那都是好件儿，省钱不是目的。呵呵
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q**u
发帖数: 12289 | 43 能装的话就装吧，俺初步打算过俩月也装一个。
【在 p****n 的大作中提到】
: 谢谢，明白了。我现在是在自己装还是买一个之间犹豫。
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c**d
发帖数: 3888 | 44 嗯，自己装省不了多少钱。Noveske的lower比一般牌子要贵一倍。其实stripped lower
最不重要，但我喜欢Noveske的牌子露在外面，就买了。
自己做最重要的是一个学习的过程。一个一个零件装，学会了很多在军队里也学不到的
知识（很多时候会说“原来这个东西是这么工作啊”），而且学会了如何在地毯上找飞
出去的弹簧，还有哪些零件会夹肿手...
【在 p****n 的大作中提到】
: $1160? 这么贵,还是你挑的都是好的PARTS？ 这样，还不如在枪展和COLDWARSHOOTER买
: 一个现成的。好像还有导轨。
: 今天我也去枪店看了好像Noveske 的Stripped lower是比较贵。
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q**u
发帖数: 12289 | 45 呵呵，说得对。有时间你能不能列个零件价目表，给版上同学们参考一下。
lower
【在 c**d 的大作中提到】
: 嗯，自己装省不了多少钱。Noveske的lower比一般牌子要贵一倍。其实stripped lower
: 最不重要，但我喜欢Noveske的牌子露在外面，就买了。
: 自己做最重要的是一个学习的过程。一个一个零件装，学会了很多在军队里也学不到的
: 知识（很多时候会说“原来这个东西是这么工作啊”），而且学会了如何在地毯上找飞
: 出去的弹簧，还有哪些零件会夹肿手...
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c**d
发帖数: 3888 | 46 自己装 lower, 因为lower parts kit 是面向所有州的，里面带 regular magazine
release. 哪天大乱了，我可以在一分钟内把bullet button拿掉，换上 regular。当然
，即使买现成的 CA-legal rifle, 也可以花几块钱买这些零件放在家里准备着
【在 p****n 的大作中提到】
: 谢谢，明白了。我现在是在自己装还是买一个之间犹豫。
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c**d
发帖数: 3888 | 47 好在我计划买的时候就写了一个表。我这就贴上来
【在 q**u 的大作中提到】
: 呵呵，说得对。有时间你能不能列个零件价目表，给版上同学们参考一下。
:
: lower
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p****n
发帖数: 225 | 48 谢谢，算是第一个吃螃蟹的吧。
【在 c**d 的大作中提到】
: 好在我计划买的时候就写了一个表。我这就贴上来
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c**d
发帖数: 3888 | 49 1.) Lower total: $490
* Noveske stripped - $260, local store
* G&R Lower parts kit - $100, G&R
* Magpul commercial-spec buttstock kit - $70 after Microsoft Live rebate,
ebay
* Completer kit (buffer tube, buffer spring and buffer) - $50, CWS
* Generic Pistol grip - $10, local store
2.) Upper total $620
* BCM upper receiver group, mid-length, 16" - $450, GTS
* LMT bolt carrier group, full auto - $130 @ G&R
* Generic charging handle - $20, GTS
* RRA Handguard - $20, RRA
3.)2 10-round magazines |
c**d
发帖数: 3888 | 50 Except RRA, all other vendors shipped very fast. Especially CWS. I think
they ship FedEx overnight or something. |
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H****r
发帖数: 16240 | 52 拐回头又读了一遍才发现老兄装的是Magpul CRT托，漂亮啊
上面好像有两个地方可以调？我知道传统6节/4节的是按下面的卡子调长度，
你这个怎么调
【在 c**d 的大作中提到】
: 1.) Lower total: $490
: * Noveske stripped - $260, local store
: * G&R Lower parts kit - $100, G&R
: * Magpul commercial-spec buttstock kit - $70 after Microsoft Live rebate,
: ebay
: * Completer kit (buffer tube, buffer spring and buffer) - $50, CWS
: * Generic Pistol grip - $10, local store
: 2.) Upper total $620
: * BCM upper receiver group, mid-length, 16" - $450, GTS
: * LMT bolt carrier group, full auto - $130 @ G&R
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D******r
发帖数: 491 | 53 Why Noveske lower is so expensive? Some complete lower is only around 220-
250.
Does the stripped lower matters? I heard they are all the same?
【在 c**d 的大作中提到】
: 1.) Lower total: $490
: * Noveske stripped - $260, local store
: * G&R Lower parts kit - $100, G&R
: * Magpul commercial-spec buttstock kit - $70 after Microsoft Live rebate,
: ebay
: * Completer kit (buffer tube, buffer spring and buffer) - $50, CWS
: * Generic Pistol grip - $10, local store
: 2.) Upper total $620
: * BCM upper receiver group, mid-length, 16" - $450, GTS
: * LMT bolt carrier group, full auto - $130 @ G&R
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D******r
发帖数: 491 | 54 Just found the answer to my own question, the complete lowers are not all
same but not much too far from it, all those lowers are manufactured by only
3-4 manufacturers, so we are pretty much paying for he logo on it, how much
we pay extra depends on the animal I guess, be it pony, snake, panther or
what ever.
Here is the original link:http://sigforum.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/630601935/m/4581079231?r=4581079231#4581079231
full list:
Lewis Machine & Tool
LMT
Lauer
DS Arms
PWA
Eagle
Armalite
Knights
【在 D******r 的大作中提到】
: Why Noveske lower is so expensive? Some complete lower is only around 220-
: 250.
: Does the stripped lower matters? I heard they are all the same?
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c**d
发帖数: 3888 | 55 Mine is commercial-spec and has 6 positions. I heard the mil-spec has 4
positions, but not 100% sure.
Yes, there are indeed two levers. The top one (inside the buttstock
triangle), when pulled, allows the buttstock to slide along the tube. Once
you set the position, the buttstock doesn't grab the tube completely, so it
wiggles a little. The bottom lever, when you push it up, grabs to the tube
very tight, so the buttstock will not move relative to the tube.
When you try to reset the position
【在 H****r 的大作中提到】
: 拐回头又读了一遍才发现老兄装的是Magpul CRT托，漂亮啊
: 上面好像有两个地方可以调？我知道传统6节/4节的是按下面的卡子调长度，
: 你这个怎么调
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c**d
发帖数: 3888 | 56 Yes, in my opinion the brand of the stripped logo is completely irrelevant
for 95% of the brands out there. I just like the Noveske name and logo on
my gun, and was willing to pay a premium for that.
only
much
【在 D******r 的大作中提到】
: Just found the answer to my own question, the complete lowers are not all
: same but not much too far from it, all those lowers are manufactured by only
: 3-4 manufacturers, so we are pretty much paying for he logo on it, how much
: we pay extra depends on the animal I guess, be it pony, snake, panther or
: what ever.
: Here is the original link:http://sigforum.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/630601935/m/4581079231?r=4581079231#4581079231
: full list:
: Lewis Machine & Tool
: LMT
: Lauer
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