c******2
发帖数: 20 | 1 两个Master的AD,两个都是狂发AD的学校,IC方向,从就业的角度讲,哪个更好? |
A****e
发帖数: 184 | 2 USC is a much better place to live...
.
【在 c******2 的大作中提到】
: 两个Master的AD,两个都是狂发AD的学校,IC方向,从就业的角度讲,哪个更好?
|
p*d
发帖数: 27 | 3 Duke是美国顶级名校，号称南方哈佛，不过工科so so，20名左右吧，远不如它的医科和
商科出名。好在Duke所在的RTP倒是有一堆IT公司，比如IBM和Cisco什么的，就业应该不
成问题。当然从长远看，如果你喜欢加州的生活环境，那么应该选USC无疑。
【在 c******2 的大作中提到】
: 两个Master的AD,两个都是狂发AD的学校,IC方向,从就业的角度讲,哪个更好?
|
o*o
发帖数: 4495 | 4 stanford, berkeley在南边？ ft to death |
a*******n
发帖数: 284 | 5 duke is as top as harvard?? I thought it's 2nd tier top univ.
和
不
【在 p*d 的大作中提到】
: Duke是美国顶级名校，号称南方哈佛，不过工科so so，20名左右吧，远不如它的医科和
: 商科出名。好在Duke所在的RTP倒是有一堆IT公司，比如IBM和Cisco什么的，就业应该不
: 成问题。当然从长远看，如果你喜欢加州的生活环境，那么应该选USC无疑。
|
A****e
发帖数: 184 | 6 USC is a much better place to live...
.
【在 c******2 的大作中提到】
: 两个Master的AD,两个都是狂发AD的学校,IC方向,从就业的角度讲,哪个更好?
|
g********r
发帖数: 4248 | 7 USC!!!
USC!!!
不信的话, 去NCAA版问一问
【在 A****e 的大作中提到】
: USC is a much better place to live...
: .
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S*****n
发帖数: 6055 | 8 人文地理上的Southern US难道包括CA？ |
A***l
发帖数: 302 | 9 That does not change the fact it is.
【在 S*****n 的大作中提到】
: 人文地理上的Southern US难道包括CA？
|
g*p
发帖数: 52 | 10 thta's west
【在 A***l 的大作中提到】
: That does not change the fact it is.
|
|
|
o*o
发帖数: 4495 | 11 那也在北加州阿
【在 g*p 的大作中提到】
: thta's west
|
o*o
发帖数: 4495 | 12 stanford, berkeley在南边？ ft to death
【在 A***l 的大作中提到】
: That does not change the fact it is.
|
g*p
发帖数: 52 | 13 of course
【在 o*o 的大作中提到】
: 那也在北加州阿
|
A***l
发帖数: 302 | 14 Stanford, Berkeley, Caltech are all in the south.
【在 S*****n 的大作中提到】
: 人文地理上的Southern US难道包括CA？
|
S*****n
发帖数: 6055 | 15 人文地理上的Southern US难道包括CA？
【在 A***l 的大作中提到】
: Stanford, Berkeley, Caltech are all in the south.
|
A***l
发帖数: 302 | 16 Stanford and berkeley have the same latitude as Duke. So no need
to die. :)
【在 o*o 的大作中提到】
: stanford, berkeley在南边？ ft to death
|
S*****n
发帖数: 6055 | 17 Duke只是号称南方哈佛而已，有什么办法，南方没有1st tier的学校。。。。。。
【在 a*******n 的大作中提到】
: duke is as top as harvard?? I thought it's 2nd tier top univ.
:
: 和
: 不
|
A***l
发帖数: 302 | 18 That does not change the fact it is.
【在 S*****n 的大作中提到】
: Duke只是号称南方哈佛而已，有什么办法，南方没有1st tier的学校。。。。。。
|
S*****n
发帖数: 6055 | 19 从自然地理的角度来讲，it is
从人文地理的角度来讲，it's not
【在 A***l 的大作中提到】
: That does not change the fact it is.
|
A***l
发帖数: 302 | 20 人文地理 considers CA to be Southwestern.
So unless it becomes part of Mexico, which is likely to happen :),
it's south of US.
【在 S*****n 的大作中提到】
: 从自然地理的角度来讲，it is
: 从人文地理的角度来讲，it's not
|
|
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c******2
发帖数: 20 | 21 Duke 总体不如 USC?? 不会吧
我是感觉USC的EE每年招很多人,成绩不好也能去,论文不用写,project不用做,每年毕业那
么多MSEE,找工作不是问题吗?
USC的确有他的地理优势,不过不知Duke毕业后再去加州找工作是否可行?
【在 o*o 的大作中提到】
: stanford, berkeley在南边？ ft to death
|
r*****y
发帖数: 507 | 22 speed mean velocity, right?
If so, shouldn't it mean difference between different time steps?
If you mean "volume", I agree mean the current instantaneous status. |
X*****r
发帖数: 2521 | 23 calm down ，man
take it easy
only
【在 r*****y 的大作中提到】
: speed mean velocity, right?
: If so, shouldn't it mean difference between different time steps?
: If you mean "volume", I agree mean the current instantaneous status.
|
t*s
发帖数: 1504 | 24 i have the data of 2005
federal funding amount national rank
duke 15, usc(not carolina) 17
private endowment national rank
duke 14, usc 20
total funding rank
duke 10, usc 24
this tells you where is Duke.
I can name at least 10 universities better than Duke, but USC? no way
only
【在 r*****y 的大作中提到】
: speed mean velocity, right?
: If so, shouldn't it mean difference between different time steps?
: If you mean "volume", I agree mean the current instantaneous status.
|
p*d
发帖数: 27 | 25 呵呵，别生气。钱多肯定是好事，但不是绝对的。USC是很有钱，肯定比Brown，
Dartmouth有钱多了吧，但是最好的本科生还是会选择去Ivy League等名校，而不是USC。
你说的那个research funding，我没找到有关link，但是找到下面这个endowment的，好
像Duke不比USC差啊。
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_US_colleges_and_universities_by_endowment
only
【在 r*****y 的大作中提到】
: speed mean velocity, right?
: If so, shouldn't it mean difference between different time steps?
: If you mean "volume", I agree mean the current instantaneous status.
|
b****i
发帖数: 102 | 26 有钱没用，人均endowment不多
。
好
【在 p*d 的大作中提到】
: 呵呵，别生气。钱多肯定是好事，但不是绝对的。USC是很有钱，肯定比Brown，
: Dartmouth有钱多了吧，但是最好的本科生还是会选择去Ivy League等名校，而不是USC。
: 你说的那个research funding，我没找到有关link，但是找到下面这个endowment的，好
: 像Duke不比USC差啊。
: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_US_colleges_and_universities_by_endowment
:
: only
|
r*****y
发帖数: 507 | 27 btw, you said Shenzhen univ has tons of research funding? are you kidding?
The fact is that..in China, THU, ZJU, PKU, etc.. have the most research
funding...
First, I don't want to jump into argue "whether Shenzhen Univ is truely rich
or not". Although I seriously doubt it. But, "rich" does not equal to "
research funding". It is a complex relation. Caltech has a lot of endowment ("
rich")-average per student may be the highest, but it has less research
funding than duke. Why? because duke has a |
t*s
发帖数: 1504 | 28 what makes you so sure about something after 5-10 years?
I don't think there's anyone on this planet that can predict this type of
stuff.
btw, what gives u USC guys this kind of courage, when you're way behind and
improving SLOWER, you dare to claim you'll overcome this deficit in 10 years?
And, what makes u change your topic, I think someone used to claim USC is
better NOW...
duke'
【在 r*****y 的大作中提到】
: btw, you said Shenzhen univ has tons of research funding? are you kidding?
: The fact is that..in China, THU, ZJU, PKU, etc.. have the most research
: funding...
: First, I don't want to jump into argue "whether Shenzhen Univ is truely rich
: or not". Although I seriously doubt it. But, "rich" does not equal to "
: research funding". It is a complex relation. Caltech has a lot of endowment ("
: rich")-average per student may be the highest, but it has less research
: funding than duke. Why? because duke has a
|
y***e
发帖数: 6082 | 29 duke远比usc好，但比起top10差距还是不小的，认同这点，估计就没问题了
同学们，你们总该知道US News排名吧。杜克差不多一直是top5的。你可以说那是本科排
名而已，但是Duke排在Stanford，Berkeley，Caltech之前，至少说明Duke的本科生素质
比这些牛校还强吧。
要说研究生，杜克的医学院也是top 5，法学和商学也不差。一个学校如果光有工程强，
像UIUC，Purdue，GaTech什么的，并不见得就有多牛。Duke好歹也出过尼克松啊。再说没
有谁会觉得USC是工程牛校，it不过是地理位置好，funding多点而已，这两年窜得快些。
要讲学术，他的工程不会比Duke强。
不过要讲地理位置，那USC是比Duke强的太多，谁让人占着加州这块风水宝地呢。不过话
又说回来了，USC在LA一直被UCLA压着，根本抬不起头，南加州好学校太多了，Caltech，
UCLA，UCSD，UCSB，随便哪个都比USC牌子响。相对而言，Duke在美国南方（从DC到
Florida，从大西洋一直到德州的广大地区）是绝对的第一。
国内知道USC的人真的不多，我出国前就没听说
【在 p*d 的大作中提到】
: 呵呵，别生气。钱多肯定是好事，但不是绝对的。USC是很有钱，肯定比Brown，
: Dartmouth有钱多了吧，但是最好的本科生还是会选择去Ivy League等名校，而不是USC。
: 你说的那个research funding，我没找到有关link，但是找到下面这个endowment的，好
: 像Duke不比USC差啊。
: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_US_colleges_and_universities_by_endowment
:
: only
|
y***e
发帖数: 6082 | 30 尼克松可是美国总统中的败类，美国人都这么说
同学们，你们总该知道US News排名吧。杜克差不多一直是top5的。你可以说那是本科排
名而已，但是Duke排在Stanford，Berkeley，Caltech之前，至少说明Duke的本科生素质
比这些牛校还强吧。
要说研究生，杜克的医学院也是top 5，法学和商学也不差。一个学校如果光有工程强，
像UIUC，Purdue，GaTech什么的，并不见得就有多牛。Duke好歹也出过尼克松啊。再说没
有谁会觉得USC是工程牛校，it不过是地理位置好，funding多点而已，这两年窜得快些。
要讲学术，他的工程不会比Duke强。
不过要讲地理位置，那USC是比Duke强的太多，谁让人占着加州这块风水宝地呢。不过话
又说回来了，USC在LA一直被UCLA压着，根本抬不起头，南加州好学校太多了，Caltech，
UCLA，UCSD，UCSB，随便哪个都比USC牌子响。相对而言，Duke在美国南方（从DC到
Florida，从大西洋一直到德州的广大地区）是绝对的第一。
国内知道USC的人真的不多，我出国前就没听说过USC，Duke倒是大名鼎鼎。美国
【在 p*d 的大作中提到】
: 呵呵，别生气。钱多肯定是好事，但不是绝对的。USC是很有钱，肯定比Brown，
: Dartmouth有钱多了吧，但是最好的本科生还是会选择去Ivy League等名校，而不是USC。
: 你说的那个research funding，我没找到有关link，但是找到下面这个endowment的，好
: 像Duke不比USC差啊。
: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_US_colleges_and_universities_by_endowment
:
: only
|
|
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g*p
发帖数: 52 | 31 duke的工科远远不如usc
别的科目usc都远远不如duke
【在 y***e 的大作中提到】
: duke远比usc好，但比起top10差距还是不小的，认同这点，估计就没问题了
:
: 同学们，你们总该知道US News排名吧。杜克差不多一直是top5的。你可以说那是本科排
: 名而已，但是Duke排在Stanford，Berkeley，Caltech之前，至少说明Duke的本科生素质
: 比这些牛校还强吧。
: 要说研究生，杜克的医学院也是top 5，法学和商学也不差。一个学校如果光有工程强，
: 像UIUC，Purdue，GaTech什么的，并不见得就有多牛。Duke好歹也出过尼克松啊。再说没
: 有谁会觉得USC是工程牛校，it不过是地理位置好，funding多点而已，这两年窜得快些。
: 要讲学术，他的工程不会比Duke强。
: 不过要讲地理位置，那USC是比Duke强的太多，谁让人占着加州这块风水宝地呢。不过话
|
z1
发帖数: 389 | 32 DUKE 很少见到能进入top 5的。
从来没见过duke一下在都排在stanford berkeley, Caltech之前的
Duke 工程 和 USC没法比，差太远， 人家问的就是工程，除非你不知道EE属于工程.
没听说过 UCSB 比USC好的。
排
质
，
没
。
话
，
【在 p*d 的大作中提到】
: 呵呵，别生气。钱多肯定是好事，但不是绝对的。USC是很有钱，肯定比Brown，
: Dartmouth有钱多了吧，但是最好的本科生还是会选择去Ivy League等名校，而不是USC。
: 你说的那个research funding，我没找到有关link，但是找到下面这个endowment的，好
: 像Duke不比USC差啊。
: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_US_colleges_and_universities_by_endowment
:
: only
|
c****e
发帖数: 59 | 33 USC engineering got a lot of funding, which helps to boost its rank. That's
true. But it doesn't mean their program is really that great. In China,
ShenZhen University is also rich. Nobody thinks it's a good university.
http://mitbbs.com/mitbbs_article_t.php?board=Economics&gid=5174079&ftype=0
最后再来谈谈资金.谈资金只能把地理位置和大师连在一起才能说清楚.没有钱,什
么也玩不转,这在中国绝对正确,在美国更是颠扑不破的真理.南加州近年来从99年
工学院的32名一路窜升到今年的第9名,和加州理工平起平坐,虽然多少有点夸张.但
看看USNEWS的具体数据就明白了.南加州在其他各项指标中都乏善可呈,尤其是用人
单位平分和同行平分之低,更是和无论排在它前后的其他学校形成鲜明的对比.但是
南加州的研究总经费
【在 r*****y 的大作中提到】
: btw, you said Shenzhen univ has tons of research funding? are you kidding?
: The fact is that..in China, THU, ZJU, PKU, etc.. have the most research
: funding...
: First, I don't want to jump into argue "whether Shenzhen Univ is truely rich
: or not". Although I seriously doubt it. But, "rich" does not equal to "
: research funding". It is a complex relation. Caltech has a lot of endowment ("
: rich")-average per student may be the highest, but it has less research
: funding than duke. Why? because duke has a
|
r*****y
发帖数: 507 | 34 yeah. Arguing too much is going to be non-sense now. Let's stop it.
【在 t*s 的大作中提到】
: what makes you so sure about something after 5-10 years?
: I don't think there's anyone on this planet that can predict this type of
: stuff.
: btw, what gives u USC guys this kind of courage, when you're way behind and
: improving SLOWER, you dare to claim you'll overcome this deficit in 10 years?
: And, what makes u change your topic, I think someone used to claim USC is
: better NOW...
:
: duke'
|
t*s
发帖数: 1504 | 35 good game
I enjoyed chatting with u
I believe USC will be better, LA is paradise
【在 r*****y 的大作中提到】
: yeah. Arguing too much is going to be non-sense now. Let's stop it.
|
r*****y
发帖数: 507 | 36 I am sure 5 years or at most 10 years, USC endowment will much more than duke'
s. that is enough said. No matter what is the past. We are looking forward.
You like sleeping, that's your choice. haha.
what you mean "funding collected annually is smaller"?
in terms of annual endowment (not accumulated amout), USC is top 3 (beat duke)
.
If you mean "annual research fund", yes, a little behind duke now. But as I
said, the
things are changing fast. USC had tripled its research funding in 10 year
peri
【在 t*s 的大作中提到】
: good game
: I enjoyed chatting with u
: I believe USC will be better, LA is paradise
|
c****e
发帖数: 59 | 37 每个人都可以替他/她喜欢的学校说话，但是请你至少要根据事实说话。“DUKE 很少见到
能进入top 5的。”恰好相反，Duke的本科近年来一直位居前五。
本科排名：
http://www.usnews.com/usnews/edu/college/rankings/brief/natudoc/tier1/t1natudoc_brief.php
Duke 5; USC 30。
要说单科，医学院排名：
http://www.usnews.com/usnews/edu/grad/rankings/med/brief/mdrrank_brief.php
Duke 6; USC 36。
其它法学院，商学院Duke也比USC强很多。Duke的工程不如USC是事实，但是Duke综合比
USC强不止一个量级，这也是不争的事实。
【在 z1 的大作中提到】
: DUKE 很少见到能进入top 5的。
: 从来没见过duke一下在都排在stanford berkeley, Caltech之前的
: Duke 工程 和 USC没法比，差太远， 人家问的就是工程，除非你不知道EE属于工程.
: 没听说过 UCSB 比USC好的。
:
: 排
: 质
: ，
: 没
: 。
|
r*****y
发帖数: 507 | 38 yeah, seems there is only one engineering school (usc) at california or south
CA?how about other famous engineering schools in CA? can you convince yourself
.....? come on... you want to say funding agency and industry are idiots? You
are far super than those people. research excellence wise is the main reason.
You duke people are that good? sorry, I just can not buy it based on your
argument in this post.
another thing you should know is that so called "reputation/name" takes the
longest time
【在 c****e 的大作中提到】
: 每个人都可以替他/她喜欢的学校说话，但是请你至少要根据事实说话。“DUKE 很少见到
: 能进入top 5的。”恰好相反，Duke的本科近年来一直位居前五。
: 本科排名：
: http://www.usnews.com/usnews/edu/college/rankings/brief/natudoc/tier1/t1natudoc_brief.php
: Duke 5; USC 30。
: 要说单科，医学院排名：
: http://www.usnews.com/usnews/edu/grad/rankings/med/brief/mdrrank_brief.php
: Duke 6; USC 36。
: 其它法学院，商学院Duke也比USC强很多。Duke的工程不如USC是事实，但是Duke综合比
: USC强不止一个量级，这也是不争的事实。
|
r*****y
发帖数: 507 | 39 improving slower? you can not do math, can you?
show the changing ratio of duke's research fund and endowment during past
decade.could you?
at least I showed USC data. If you are a real man from duke, show true things/
facts. Arguing in mouth is boring and make non sense too.
?
【在 t*s 的大作中提到】
: what makes you so sure about something after 5-10 years?
: I don't think there's anyone on this planet that can predict this type of
: stuff.
: btw, what gives u USC guys this kind of courage, when you're way behind and
: improving SLOWER, you dare to claim you'll overcome this deficit in 10 years?
: And, what makes u change your topic, I think someone used to claim USC is
: better NOW...
:
: duke'
|
t*s
发帖数: 1504 | 40 u were talking about total endowment just now...
but here u switched back to annual fund...
the
【在 r*****y 的大作中提到】
: improving slower? you can not do math, can you?
: show the changing ratio of duke's research fund and endowment during past
: decade.could you?
: at least I showed USC data. If you are a real man from duke, show true things/
: facts. Arguing in mouth is boring and make non sense too.
:
: ?
|
|
|
S*****n
发帖数: 6055 | 41 shenzhen U got lots of research funding from shenzhen government
("
(
duke
【在 r*****y 的大作中提到】
: btw, you said Shenzhen univ has tons of research funding? are you kidding?
: The fact is that..in China, THU, ZJU, PKU, etc.. have the most research
: funding...
: First, I don't want to jump into argue "whether Shenzhen Univ is truely rich
: or not". Although I seriously doubt it. But, "rich" does not equal to "
: research funding". It is a complex relation. Caltech has a lot of endowment ("
: rich")-average per student may be the highest, but it has less research
: funding than duke. Why? because duke has a
|
t*s
发帖数: 1504 | 42 为啥非要扯着2003 federal funding讲呢
in 2003, federal funding
Duke 306864
USC 300195（好像这个也不是很行）
Total
Duke 520191
USC 414099（其他钱就不是钱？）
Private Endowment Assets
Duke 3313859
USC 2399960（huge difference here)
另外，USC的phd产量是Duke的2+倍
BTW, everybody admits engineering of USC is better, so proving this point
alone doesn't bring any brand new information...
One last thing...这里比来比去的都是USC所谓最强的一块，钱
south
yourself
You
reason.
【在 r*****y 的大作中提到】
: yeah, seems there is only one engineering school (usc) at california or south
: CA?how about other famous engineering schools in CA? can you convince yourself
: .....? come on... you want to say funding agency and industry are idiots? You
: are far super than those people. research excellence wise is the main reason.
: You duke people are that good? sorry, I just can not buy it based on your
: argument in this post.
: another thing you should know is that so called "reputation/name" takes the
: longest time
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r*****y
发帖数: 507 | 43
排
质
，
没
。
话
，
==> Caltech is way ahead of the others in South CA. nobody denies that.
UCLA is a balanced school. Even it is true, in quite a few fields, USC is
better than UCLA. what your Fxxx meaning of "tai bu qi tou"? Overall (not only
counting sci & engr.), USC now is the same level as UCLA/UCSD/UCSB etc.
People know these SOUTHERN schools are essentially inferior in academia
research reputation. USC consistently ranks in top 10 in terms of federal
research fundings among private schools in
【在 p*d 的大作中提到】
: 呵呵，别生气。钱多肯定是好事，但不是绝对的。USC是很有钱，肯定比Brown，
: Dartmouth有钱多了吧，但是最好的本科生还是会选择去Ivy League等名校，而不是USC。
: 你说的那个research funding，我没找到有关link，但是找到下面这个endowment的，好
: 像Duke不比USC差啊。
: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_US_colleges_and_universities_by_endowment
:
: only
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r*****y
发帖数: 507 | 44
why federal? because generally, federal money is regarded as embodiment of "
research excellence" and won based on merit-based competition.
Other money is more connected to network and location-based factors, etc.
People thought "federal research money" is a good sign.
Yes, it is difference now. actually, at 2006 March, USC endowment reaches 2.7
billions (not 2.39 billion in your data, out of data already). Let's come back
to see the data 5 years or 10 years later, you will see what it is.
But
【在 t*s 的大作中提到】
: 为啥非要扯着2003 federal funding讲呢
: in 2003, federal funding
: Duke 306864
: USC 300195（好像这个也不是很行）
: Total
: Duke 520191
: USC 414099（其他钱就不是钱？）
: Private Endowment Assets
: Duke 3313859
: USC 2399960（huge difference here)
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t*s
发帖数: 1504 | 45 I'm bringing shame to my fellow graduate students here...
so I'd better stop...
there's really no point of arguing this...
in the long run, the best university will be University of Washington
why
Ice age, Meltdown
【在 r*****y 的大作中提到】
:
: why federal? because generally, federal money is regarded as embodiment of "
: research excellence" and won based on merit-based competition.
: Other money is more connected to network and location-based factors, etc.
: People thought "federal research money" is a good sign.
: Yes, it is difference now. actually, at 2006 March, USC endowment reaches 2.7
: billions (not 2.39 billion in your data, out of data already). Let's come back
: to see the data 5 years or 10 years later, you will see what it is.
: But
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r*****y
发帖数: 507 | 46
到
really?
law: duke 11, USC 17,
business: duek 11, USC 29,
强是强点，但是叫强很多吗？
工学院暂时不提(usc 9：duke 30)，how about school of cinema, school of
communication, school of public adminstration, school of eduation, school of
social work, etc.
USC恐怕也是比duke强很多把，有些不止一个量级把。。。
11:17 定义为“强很多”，30：9称为“ 不如”。赫赫。。。。
正如我前篇文章说的，usc和duke的年度联邦研究经费差不多，(2003数据)
但是duke的85%是医科，usc的54%是医科。
难道这不够说明一点关于别的学科的问题吗？
【在 c****e 的大作中提到】
: 每个人都可以替他/她喜欢的学校说话，但是请你至少要根据事实说话。“DUKE 很少见到
: 能进入top 5的。”恰好相反，Duke的本科近年来一直位居前五。
: 本科排名：
: http://www.usnews.com/usnews/edu/college/rankings/brief/natudoc/tier1/t1natudoc_brief.php
: Duke 5; USC 30。
: 要说单科，医学院排名：
: http://www.usnews.com/usnews/edu/grad/rankings/med/brief/mdrrank_brief.php
: Duke 6; USC 36。
: 其它法学院，商学院Duke也比USC强很多。Duke的工程不如USC是事实，但是Duke综合比
: USC强不止一个量级，这也是不争的事实。
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t*s
发帖数: 1504 | 47 i'm a math guy.
you can not do physics?
why do u need the info of the past decade?
at this year, the funding collected of Duke is higher than USC, which means
the instantaneous speed of improvement of USC is smaller...
that's called slower.
You're talking about acceleration...
things/
【在 r*****y 的大作中提到】
: improving slower? you can not do math, can you?
: show the changing ratio of duke's research fund and endowment during past
: decade.could you?
: at least I showed USC data. If you are a real man from duke, show true things/
: facts. Arguing in mouth is boring and make non sense too.
:
: ?
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r*****y
发帖数: 507 | 48
within 50 years, I guess.
yes, I can not say that. But in terms of annual federal fund, usc is just 6
millions behind (volume is >300 million per year). Do USC need to triple its
research fund to surpass duke? come on, USC research volume is clearly in the
top tier. Who are the top 5? how much they have ahead of USC?
【在 t*s 的大作中提到】
: i'm a math guy.
: you can not do physics?
: why do u need the info of the past decade?
: at this year, the funding collected of Duke is higher than USC, which means
: the instantaneous speed of improvement of USC is smaller...
: that's called slower.
: You're talking about acceleration...
:
: things/
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t*s
发帖数: 1504 | 49 what i see is
Now, USC is behind(Private Endowment way below)
and the improving speed is also behind(Funding collected annually is smaller)
the only thing ahead is the improving acceleration( collect more than their
own past, simply because it's too bad in the past)
Am I right?
7
back
becomes
USC
【在 r*****y 的大作中提到】
:
: within 50 years, I guess.
: yes, I can not say that. But in terms of annual federal fund, usc is just 6
: millions behind (volume is >300 million per year). Do USC need to triple its
: research fund to surpass duke? come on, USC research volume is clearly in the
: top tier. Who are the top 5? how much they have ahead of USC?
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t*s
发帖数: 1504 | 50 China GDP > Sweden does not mean Chinese are richer
same reason here
in this PARTICULAR year USC has top 3 federal funding, but the difference
between Duke and USC is still in the second significant digit.
on the other hand, number of grads in USC is 3 times that of Duke.
So who's richer?
what's more, USC maniacs usually claim their biggest advantage is money...
even in terms of your guys' biggest advantage...USC is not as good as,
or at least no better than Duke.
【在 r*****y 的大作中提到】
:
: within 50 years, I guess.
: yes, I can not say that. But in terms of annual federal fund, usc is just 6
: millions behind (volume is >300 million per year). Do USC need to triple its
: research fund to surpass duke? come on, USC research volume is clearly in the
: top tier. Who are the top 5? how much they have ahead of USC?
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r*****y
发帖数: 507 | 51 Yes, check thecenter.ufl.edu
its 2005 ranking (but based on 2003 data)
federal research, duke is about 306 Millions, USC is about 300 millions.
Considering duke does has a much better medical school than USC (everybody
know NIH has big money to distribute), the overall federal funding is close.
then we can infer the comparisons between non-medical part (enclose all other
disciplines). Life science is 85% of duke federal research, while USC is 54%.
Counting private support. Yes, duke has a larger
【在 t*s 的大作中提到】
: i have the data of 2005
: federal funding amount national rank
: duke 15, usc(not carolina) 17
: private endowment national rank
: duke 14, usc 20
: total funding rank
: duke 10, usc 24
: this tells you where is Duke.
: I can name at least 10 universities better than Duke, but USC? no way
:
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r*****y
发帖数: 507 | 52
where you get the 3 times? I checked wikipedia, it looks like about 2 times.
Maybe you don't know, >85% of USC graduate students are Master students.
and those Master students generally don't have RA support and not participate
research activity. For example, each year, USC engineering graduate about 70-
80 Ph.D., but >1100 Engineering masters. you can count the ratio.
You should compare with federal funding /(faculty+PhD.students)...I think USC
probably win out duke or maybe close.
No, in term
【在 t*s 的大作中提到】
: China GDP > Sweden does not mean Chinese are richer
: same reason here
: in this PARTICULAR year USC has top 3 federal funding, but the difference
: between Duke and USC is still in the second significant digit.
: on the other hand, number of grads in USC is 3 times that of Duke.
: So who's richer?
: what's more, USC maniacs usually claim their biggest advantage is money...
: even in terms of your guys' biggest advantage...USC is not as good as,
: or at least no better than Duke.
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t*s
发帖数: 1504 | 53 i have the data of 2005
federal funding amount national rank
duke 15, usc(not carolina) 17
private endowment national rank
duke 14, usc 20
total funding rank
duke 10, usc 24
this tells you where is Duke.
I can name at least 10 universities better than Duke, but USC? no way
only
【在 r*****y 的大作中提到】
:
: where you get the 3 times? I checked wikipedia, it looks like about 2 times.
: Maybe you don't know, >85% of USC graduate students are Master students.
: and those Master students generally don't have RA support and not participate
: research activity. For example, each year, USC engineering graduate about 70-
: 80 Ph.D., but >1100 Engineering masters. you can count the ratio.
: You should compare with federal funding /(faculty+PhD.students)...I think USC
: probably win out duke or maybe close.
: No, in term
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r*****y
发帖数: 507 | 54 tell me how much Ph.D granted in duke in 2005?
if less than 400, then I have nothing to say, otherwise, "2 times" is a bull
shit.
【在 t*s 的大作中提到】
: 为啥非要扯着2003 federal funding讲呢
: in 2003, federal funding
: Duke 306864
: USC 300195（好像这个也不是很行）
: Total
: Duke 520191
: USC 414099（其他钱就不是钱？）
: Private Endowment Assets
: Duke 3313859
: USC 2399960（huge difference here)
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t*s
发帖数: 1504 | 55 can u name ten univs that are far ahead of duke?
排
质
，
没
。
话
，
【在 y***e 的大作中提到】
: duke远比usc好，但比起top10差距还是不小的，认同这点，估计就没问题了
:
: 同学们，你们总该知道US News排名吧。杜克差不多一直是top5的。你可以说那是本科排
: 名而已，但是Duke排在Stanford，Berkeley，Caltech之前，至少说明Duke的本科生素质
: 比这些牛校还强吧。
: 要说研究生，杜克的医学院也是top 5，法学和商学也不差。一个学校如果光有工程强，
: 像UIUC，Purdue，GaTech什么的，并不见得就有多牛。Duke好歹也出过尼克松啊。再说没
: 有谁会觉得USC是工程牛校，it不过是地理位置好，funding多点而已，这两年窜得快些。
: 要讲学术，他的工程不会比Duke强。
: 不过要讲地理位置，那USC是比Duke强的太多，谁让人占着加州这块风水宝地呢。不过话
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r*****y
发帖数: 507 | 56 see. it is frustrated to argue with you. Because you always try to deviate
from the topic. I can argue with something in this post, but it is not the
main point I like to argue with you.
【在 t*s 的大作中提到】
: can u name ten univs that are far ahead of duke?
:
: 排
: 质
: ，
: 没
: 。
: 话
: ，
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t*s
发帖数: 1504 | 57 I believe China will keep this 8% increase GDP rate and surpass US soon.
Will it happen?
U don't really believe USC is gonna triple its fund in 10 years again, do u?
if that's the case...MIT, HYP...whatever...will all be inferior to USC...
duke'
duke)
【在 r*****y 的大作中提到】
: I am sure 5 years or at most 10 years, USC endowment will much more than duke'
: s. that is enough said. No matter what is the past. We are looking forward.
: You like sleeping, that's your choice. haha.
: what you mean "funding collected annually is smaller"?
: in terms of annual endowment (not accumulated amout), USC is top 3 (beat duke)
: .
: If you mean "annual research fund", yes, a little behind duke now. But as I
: said, the
: things are changing fast. USC had tripled its research funding in 10 year
: peri
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a*********e
发帖数: 228 | 58 of course USC.
【在 c******2 的大作中提到】
: 两个Master的AD,两个都是狂发AD的学校,IC方向,从就业的角度讲,哪个更好?
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