t****i
发帖数: 904 | 1 俺要争取driver 的fairway命中率超过百分之五十。每星期至少打一场球，18洞。 |
t****i
发帖数: 904 | 2 今天这场球，可以说是本年度最恶劣天气，气温45度左右，风速大概20mph。刚上练习
场时手冷得基本上连球杆都抓不住，warm up 30 分钟后找到感觉后开始上场，两个人
两个小时四十五分钟打完，基本上没浪费任何时间。因为天气恶劣，所以期望不高，但
结果比预期的好。
弱点仍然是driver accuracy. driver 开球11次，命中球道4次，其中一次是侥幸球弹
到树上落回球道。GIR 12/18,比较满意。birdie机会不少，15尺之内的机会5次，成功
两次。
今天赢球的最主要因素就是铁杆，能够在风中打出低飞球，最近在练习场的练习有成效。
【在 t****i 的大作中提到】
: 俺要争取driver 的fairway命中率超过百分之五十。每星期至少打一场球，18洞。
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A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 3 我要求比较低
明年的目标: 每场不丢球 //哈哈
上次打完，发现最后PUTT的还是FIRST TEE OFF的球，很高兴
经济不好，我也正好省点球钱，虽然我还没花钱买过球
【在 t****i 的大作中提到】
: 俺要争取driver 的fairway命中率超过百分之五十。每星期至少打一场球，18洞。
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m****n
发帖数: 815 | |
d******s
发帖数: 674 | 5 maybe too ambitious, but I will try everything to break 100 |
j******e
发帖数: 1424 | |
d*******r
发帖数: 590 | 7 阿非，每场不丢球的要求可不低。
我的愿望：
1，不丢球。一丢就要罚杆，太伤了。
2，无三推。
3，无双柏忌。
4，每场至少抓一鸟。 |
v*****r
发帖数: 2325 | 8 you already play good golf. let alone birdies, even par excites me.
so first birdie is one goal.
two way to get it: 1) accurate iron play for par3 hole. 2) hit long for
par4 /5 holes.
in order to get that, have to improve swing. recently mainly working on the
timing and sync of the chain action. focus on the quality of practice, not
quantity. don't want to repeat improper swing action.
so basic goal is hit shots to desired direction/distance 70% time...
效。
【在 t****i 的大作中提到】
: 今天这场球，可以说是本年度最恶劣天气，气温45度左右，风速大概20mph。刚上练习
: 场时手冷得基本上连球杆都抓不住，warm up 30 分钟后找到感觉后开始上场，两个人
: 两个小时四十五分钟打完，基本上没浪费任何时间。因为天气恶劣，所以期望不高，但
: 结果比预期的好。
: 弱点仍然是driver accuracy. driver 开球11次，命中球道4次，其中一次是侥幸球弹
: 到树上落回球道。GIR 12/18,比较满意。birdie机会不少，15尺之内的机会5次，成功
: 两次。
: 今天赢球的最主要因素就是铁杆，能够在风中打出低飞球，最近在练习场的练习有成效。
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ET
发帖数: 10701 | 9 50% driving accuracy?
come to Texas, you get plenty room for your driving accuracy.
lol..
【在 t****i 的大作中提到】
: 俺要争取driver 的fairway命中率超过百分之五十。每星期至少打一场球，18洞。
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t****i
发帖数: 904 | 10 i like some of the resort courses in florida, where missing the fairway is
not a big deal.
never played golf in texas. last time i was there was a long time ago and i
didn't play golf back then. i did like wind surfing on lake travis though.
【在 ET 的大作中提到】
: 50% driving accuracy?
: come to Texas, you get plenty room for your driving accuracy.
: lol..
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t****i
发帖数: 904 | 11 无三推 is very tough to achieve, i don't think i have ever done it in a 18-
hole round.
【在 d*******r 的大作中提到】
: 阿非，每场不丢球的要求可不低。
: 我的愿望：
: 1，不丢球。一丢就要罚杆，太伤了。
: 2，无三推。
: 3，无双柏忌。
: 4，每场至少抓一鸟。
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d*******r
发帖数: 590 | 12 一场无三推当然不容易，但也不是 Mission Impossible ，熟能生巧而已。
我查了下最近我的十来张记分卡，有四场没有三推，只有一场符合我全部四个要求。 |
A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 13 wosai, 十来张记分卡!
zan!
【在 d*******r 的大作中提到】
: 一场无三推当然不容易，但也不是 Mission Impossible ，熟能生巧而已。
: 我查了下最近我的十来张记分卡，有四场没有三推，只有一场符合我全部四个要求。
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t****i
发帖数: 904 | 14 四场没有三推 - your putting must be very very good!
一场符合我全部四个要求 - let's see, no double bogey, no 3-putts, no lost
ball, you must have shot below 75, is that true?
【在 d*******r 的大作中提到】
: 一场无三推当然不容易，但也不是 Mission Impossible ，熟能生巧而已。
: 我查了下最近我的十来张记分卡，有四场没有三推，只有一场符合我全部四个要求。
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ET
发帖数: 10701 | 15 it's not always like that..
i had so many rounds without 3-putt. not a big deal..
it's not that difficult to manage to get free of worse-than-bogey round, it
doesn't mean i am gonna break 75.
【在 t****i 的大作中提到】
: 四场没有三推 - your putting must be very very good!
: 一场符合我全部四个要求 - let's see, no double bogey, no 3-putts, no lost
: ball, you must have shot below 75, is that true?
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v****e
发帖数: 19471 | 16 俺就希望能打出dollar-bill divot，别的都可以慢慢再说。。。lol
it
【在 ET 的大作中提到】
: it's not always like that..
: i had so many rounds without 3-putt. not a big deal..
: it's not that difficult to manage to get free of worse-than-bogey round, it
: doesn't mean i am gonna break 75.
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ET
发帖数: 10701 | 17 don't be fooled by that statement.
it's not a big deal. some pros take as deep as they want. like phil .
i take shallow divot, like dollar bill size, but it easily leads to hit thin.
【在 v****e 的大作中提到】
: 俺就希望能打出dollar-bill divot，别的都可以慢慢再说。。。lol
:
: it
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v****e
发帖数: 19471 | 18 俺现在还处在可悲的reverse divot阶段呢，打好的时候也就是clean shot或者very sh
allow divot.
thin.
【在 ET 的大作中提到】
: don't be fooled by that statement.
: it's not a big deal. some pros take as deep as they want. like phil .
: i take shallow divot, like dollar bill size, but it easily leads to hit thin.
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t****i
发帖数: 904 | 19 i don't know what course you guys are playing. i don't consider myself a bad
putter but no 3-putts over an entire round is almost an insurmountable
challenge for me. my home course and a few other courses to which my friends
belong all have very fast and angulated greens. if i hit the wrong part of
the greens (above the hole or on a different tier), i have at best a 50%
chance to make 2 putts, some time i just hope not to make anything worse
than 3 putts. there's a tournament i played in last mo
【在 ET 的大作中提到】
: it's not always like that..
: i had so many rounds without 3-putt. not a big deal..
: it's not that difficult to manage to get free of worse-than-bogey round, it
: doesn't mean i am gonna break 75.
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d*******r
发帖数: 590 | 20 推杆是个熟能生巧的技术，跟卖油翁一个道理。
我承认我推杆不错，因为我每周至少花三个三十分钟练切球和推杆。
我用的是传统 blade 推杆，传统握法。用过 mallet ，感觉不好，特别是长推的距离
感不好。
我打的球场果岭速度都不低。我喜欢速度快的果岭，或者下坡推。慢的果岭，或是大上
坡，因为要多用力，会把推杆里的动作缺陷都放大了。
不过如果球场设置都象 teeski 描述的那样 sadistic ，我也难保没有三推。
我说的那场球最后打了 77 ,
Fairway Hit 2/13， 5 of the misses were just in the intermediate rough
GIR 8/18
29 putts |
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d*******r
发帖数: 590 | 21 Another good habit of putting is, always putt out, no gimme. If you keep
focus and make enough 3-footers, you will be surprised by the number of 10-
footers you can make down the road. |
t****i
发帖数: 904 | 22 good tips, thanks.
i realized that i miss more short putts on the left side, i.e., i have a
tendency to pull my putts when under pressure. any suggestions?
【在 d*******r 的大作中提到】
: Another good habit of putting is, always putt out, no gimme. If you keep
: focus and make enough 3-footers, you will be surprised by the number of 10-
: footers you can make down the road.
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d*******r
发帖数: 590 | 23 Just my guess. Most of your missed short putts are right-break sliders.
For short putts, especially on fast greens, your hands may get a little bit
more active than usual and you are actually trying to "steer" the ball into
the hole. The result is missing left, because the ball just won't take the
break.
It happens to many people, even tour players are not immune from it. That's
why lot people adopt all sorts of non-traditional putting styles like claw,
right-hand-low, etc., to inhibit hand acti
【在 t****i 的大作中提到】
: good tips, thanks.
: i realized that i miss more short putts on the left side, i.e., i have a
: tendency to pull my putts when under pressure. any suggestions?
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ET
发帖数: 10701 | 24 reverse pivot?
just try to loose ur leg, very very loose, and make some half swings..
image you are using hammer to punch the golf ball from back of the ball. be
as natural as possible..
sh
【在 v****e 的大作中提到】
: 俺现在还处在可悲的reverse divot阶段呢，打好的时候也就是clean shot或者very sh
: allow divot.
:
: thin.
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ET
发帖数: 10701 | 25 i endorsed this message..
i think the most improved part for my game, scoring-wise, was that "putting
everything", back to 2-year ago..
【在 d*******r 的大作中提到】
: Another good habit of putting is, always putt out, no gimme. If you keep
: focus and make enough 3-footers, you will be surprised by the number of 10-
: footers you can make down the road.
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ET
发帖数: 10701 | 26 this is good comment.
i don't practice putting that often, even though I try to hit balls everyday.
My friend, Brian, said the most improvement of my game is my putting, from
his observation.
My putting relies on feeling a lot. Tiger Woods' putting drill is my
favorite regarding distance control.
staying easy and loosing body up would be best suggestion. just image why
you putt not bad when at practice green or, when it doesn't count? most
likely, it's because you are easy
as far as doublepar's
【在 d*******r 的大作中提到】
: 推杆是个熟能生巧的技术，跟卖油翁一个道理。
: 我承认我推杆不错，因为我每周至少花三个三十分钟练切球和推杆。
: 我用的是传统 blade 推杆，传统握法。用过 mallet ，感觉不好，特别是长推的距离
: 感不好。
: 我打的球场果岭速度都不低。我喜欢速度快的果岭，或者下坡推。慢的果岭，或是大上
: 坡，因为要多用力，会把推杆里的动作缺陷都放大了。
: 不过如果球场设置都象 teeski 描述的那样 sadistic ，我也难保没有三推。
: 我说的那场球最后打了 77 ,
: Fairway Hit 2/13， 5 of the misses were just in the intermediate rough
: GIR 8/18
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ET
发帖数: 10701 | 27 pull the putts?
i would say, the reason, more is from your mental side.
the logical behind was..
"under pressure" -> you need the putts badly -> you can't wait but seeing
the result -> substantially, you moved your head ahead your club face
touched the ball -> you pulled the ball.
It happened quite often for all level golfers.. not mentioning the right-to-
left break which makes the scenario worse.
My putting drill for this kind of mistake is.. trust your reading -> pick a
tiny target (like gras
【在 t****i 的大作中提到】
: good tips, thanks.
: i realized that i miss more short putts on the left side, i.e., i have a
: tendency to pull my putts when under pressure. any suggestions?
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t****i
发帖数: 904 | 28 great putting lessons, thanks doublepar and et.
let me try to work on it next time when i get to the course.
to-
a
【在 ET 的大作中提到】
: pull the putts?
: i would say, the reason, more is from your mental side.
: the logical behind was..
: "under pressure" -> you need the putts badly -> you can't wait but seeing
: the result -> substantially, you moved your head ahead your club face
: touched the ball -> you pulled the ball.
: It happened quite often for all level golfers.. not mentioning the right-to-
: left break which makes the scenario worse.
: My putting drill for this kind of mistake is.. trust your reading -> pick a
: tiny target (like gras
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f******n
发帖数: 175 | 29 都是高手啊. 我是一年新初学者.
我希望能不丢球就不错拉.
另外开球木能到250.球道木能有起色. |
t****i
发帖数: 904 | 30 高手不敢当，发烧友倒是没错。
开球木能到250对新手来说非常不错。属于超强潜力股。
【在 f******n 的大作中提到】
: 都是高手啊. 我是一年新初学者.
: 我希望能不丢球就不错拉.
: 另外开球木能到250.球道木能有起色.
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ET
发帖数: 10701 | 31 有一次去golf galaxy， 我随便整了2个no-name driver和3-wood， 我用simulator计
算的我的3-wood carrying distance 平均244码， 我很满意。
而我的driver， 平均252还是255, 相当郁闷。
而实际上， 我的driver，就现在我击它的能力，可能也就255码-260码的carrying, 3-
wood, 230-235可能。
上次看us open， Tiger woods从225码外第2击，用的是5-wood，就落在果岭中间，也
就是225 carrying distance, 当时很诧异。
我没觉得那天风怎么样。
【在 t****i 的大作中提到】
: 高手不敢当，发烧友倒是没错。
: 开球木能到250对新手来说非常不错。属于超强潜力股。
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d*******r
发帖数: 590 | 32 Driver 距离要看 carry，总距离和天气，场地有太大关系，不好拿来做参照。
老虎的那记五木，我记得是第三轮十八洞。当时他是 - 1，落后 Westwood 一杆。他的
左膝有伤使不上劲，又要把球停住在果岭上，所以打了个大 slice，估计顶多也就用了
八成力。最后他一推抓鹰，反超 Westwood 一杆，领先进入第四轮。
老虎的五木如果要 carry 两百五十码估计是没问题的。 |
q******3
发帖数: 622 | 33 高手们说说，只用3 wood，不用driver得人多吗？什么情况适合？
我就发现自己打3 wood 很有信心，比driver好。 |
ET
发帖数: 10701 | 34 not too many, but some.
like Tiger Woods. lol...
【在 q******3 的大作中提到】
: 高手们说说，只用3 wood，不用driver得人多吗？什么情况适合？
: 我就发现自己打3 wood 很有信心，比driver好。
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ET
发帖数: 10701 | 35 i don't quite remember if he hit slice or straight. but it doesn't surprise
me.
【在 d*******r 的大作中提到】
: Driver 距离要看 carry，总距离和天气，场地有太大关系，不好拿来做参照。
: 老虎的那记五木，我记得是第三轮十八洞。当时他是 - 1，落后 Westwood 一杆。他的
: 左膝有伤使不上劲，又要把球停住在果岭上，所以打了个大 slice，估计顶多也就用了
: 八成力。最后他一推抓鹰，反超 Westwood 一杆，领先进入第四轮。
: 老虎的五木如果要 carry 两百五十码估计是没问题的。
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d*******r
发帖数: 590 | 36 It was a slice from an uphill lie. From the TV camera angle, it was pretty
clear that he was aligned to the grandstand on the left side.
surprise
【在 ET 的大作中提到】
: i don't quite remember if he hit slice or straight. but it doesn't surprise
: me.
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A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 37 Phil left his driver at home at 2008 US Open, and the outcome was not good.
at least not good enough to convinance more ppl join the crowd.
Now, with anotheny kim's success, i would think more ppl would leave their
3wood out instead of driver.
for me, better keep both of them.
also, for amature, do you guys stick with the 14-clubs rule? sometimes, i
would think we should limit our fun to play, and carry as much as club as we
can afford.
【在 ET 的大作中提到】
: not too many, but some.
: like Tiger Woods. lol...
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t****i
发帖数: 904 | 38 more than 14 clubs? 不好，要把球僮累坏不成？
we
【在 A*f 的大作中提到】
: Phil left his driver at home at 2008 US Open, and the outcome was not good.
: at least not good enough to convinance more ppl join the crowd.
: Now, with anotheny kim's success, i would think more ppl would leave their
: 3wood out instead of driver.
: for me, better keep both of them.
: also, for amature, do you guys stick with the 14-clubs rule? sometimes, i
: would think we should limit our fun to play, and carry as much as club as we
: can afford.
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A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 39 wosai, you got 球僮 to play along?
well, 球僮 can use pull/push cart. //kaka
【在 t****i 的大作中提到】
: more than 14 clubs? 不好，要把球僮累坏不成？
:
: we
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t****i
发帖数: 904 | 40 有球僮的地方，pull cart not allowed.
【在 A*f 的大作中提到】
: wosai, you got 球僮 to play along?
: well, 球僮 can use pull/push cart. //kaka
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v****e
发帖数: 19471 | 41 球童多少钱一轮？
【在 t****i 的大作中提到】
: 有球僮的地方，pull cart not allowed.
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t****i
发帖数: 904 | 42 看场地和球僮的级别，一般40-75。
【在 v****e 的大作中提到】
: 球童多少钱一轮？
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v****e
发帖数: 19471 | 43 有钱人。。。
【在 t****i 的大作中提到】
: 看场地和球僮的级别，一般40-75。
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t****i
发帖数: 904 | 44 这个跟果岭费相比小意思吧？是谁说pebble的果岭费是400了的？
【在 v****e 的大作中提到】
: 有钱人。。。
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v****e
发帖数: 19471 | 45 不是我说的，好像是阿非说的。。。。hiahiahia
【在 t****i 的大作中提到】
: 这个跟果岭费相比小意思吧？是谁说pebble的果岭费是400了的？
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t****i
发帖数: 904 | 46 kidding aside, a rule is a rule. i've never seen any golfer with more than
14 clubs in his bag.
if u don't feel like to conform to the rules, u will be better off getting
one of those illegal 580cc bang drivers. that will more likely to help u to
score than the extra clubs.
we
【在 A*f 的大作中提到】
: Phil left his driver at home at 2008 US Open, and the outcome was not good.
: at least not good enough to convinance more ppl join the crowd.
: Now, with anotheny kim's success, i would think more ppl would leave their
: 3wood out instead of driver.
: for me, better keep both of them.
: also, for amature, do you guys stick with the 14-clubs rule? sometimes, i
: would think we should limit our fun to play, and carry as much as club as we
: can afford.
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v****e
发帖数: 19471 | 47 哈哈，还有这好东西呐？有没有一种内置发球机的球包，能直接launch the ball stra
ight out at 150mph?
to
【在 t****i 的大作中提到】
: kidding aside, a rule is a rule. i've never seen any golfer with more than
: 14 clubs in his bag.
: if u don't feel like to conform to the rules, u will be better off getting
: one of those illegal 580cc bang drivers. that will more likely to help u to
: score than the extra clubs.
:
: we
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A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 48 haha, where to get those :)
well, kidding aside
i was thinking
1 driver
3/5/7 woods
3/4 hybrid
2 iron (optional)
3-9 iron
48,52,56,60 wedge
1 putter
total: 19
For amature, just pick the best weapon available for each different hole //
kaka
to
【在 t****i 的大作中提到】
: kidding aside, a rule is a rule. i've never seen any golfer with more than
: 14 clubs in his bag.
: if u don't feel like to conform to the rules, u will be better off getting
: one of those illegal 580cc bang drivers. that will more likely to help u to
: score than the extra clubs.
:
: we
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t****i
发帖数: 904 | 49 建议你玩一玩speed golf，就是一小时左右自己背着包，跑步打完18洞的那种。
然后你就会发现，其实你真正需要的，不会超过7，8枝杆。
【在 A*f 的大作中提到】
: haha, where to get those :)
: well, kidding aside
: i was thinking
: 1 driver
: 3/5/7 woods
: 3/4 hybrid
: 2 iron (optional)
: 3-9 iron
: 48,52,56,60 wedge
: 1 putter
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A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 50 from today's game, 发现 myself 其实真正不需要IRONs at all //hehe
18 hole, use 4i once, 5i 2 times, 7i once
and 4i i can use hybrid to replace, 5i was used to get out of pine needle.
my typical setup:
driver + (hybrid/3woods) + wedge + putter
【在 t****i 的大作中提到】
: 建议你玩一玩speed golf，就是一小时左右自己背着包，跑步打完18洞的那种。
: 然后你就会发现，其实你真正需要的，不会超过7，8枝杆。
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A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 51 not me //hehe either ixcafe or bescape
i think i am not good enough to appreciate the course or the intention of
the course designer. if i have 400, i would rather spend it on driver.
【在 v****e 的大作中提到】
: 不是我说的，好像是阿非说的。。。。hiahiahia
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v****e
发帖数: 19471 | 52 I'd spend it on getting some good instruction.
【在 A*f 的大作中提到】
: not me //hehe either ixcafe or bescape
: i think i am not good enough to appreciate the course or the intention of
: the course designer. if i have 400, i would rather spend it on driver.
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A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 53 looks like you made some progress!
got your money worth
【在 v****e 的大作中提到】
: I'd spend it on getting some good instruction.
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v****e
发帖数: 19471 | 54 教的不错，进步也挺显著，可是这俩礼拜左边后背拉伤了，不能full swing, 只能练习
chip shots, flop shots和putting. 明天拔火罐去。。。
【在 A*f 的大作中提到】
: looks like you made some progress!
: got your money worth
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A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 55 练得够很的 //kaka
【在 v****e 的大作中提到】
: 教的不错，进步也挺显著，可是这俩礼拜左边后背拉伤了，不能full swing, 只能练习
: chip shots, flop shots和putting. 明天拔火罐去。。。
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v****e
发帖数: 19471 | 56 唉，很痛苦，打喷嚏都疼。。。
【在 A*f 的大作中提到】
: 练得够很的 //kaka
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A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 57 不知道是不是越说这个3PUTT，压力越大
上次SUNNYVALE，0 GIR, but almost no 3 putt
这次SHORELINE, 7 GIR, but 7 3-putt
两次差别实在太明显了, 虽然SCORE差不多
【在 d*******r 的大作中提到】
: 推杆是个熟能生巧的技术，跟卖油翁一个道理。
: 我承认我推杆不错，因为我每周至少花三个三十分钟练切球和推杆。
: 我用的是传统 blade 推杆，传统握法。用过 mallet ，感觉不好，特别是长推的距离
: 感不好。
: 我打的球场果岭速度都不低。我喜欢速度快的果岭，或者下坡推。慢的果岭，或是大上
: 坡，因为要多用力，会把推杆里的动作缺陷都放大了。
: 不过如果球场设置都象 teeski 描述的那样 sadistic ，我也难保没有三推。
: 我说的那场球最后打了 77 ,
: Fairway Hit 2/13， 5 of the misses were just in the intermediate rough
: GIR 8/18
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d*******r
发帖数: 590 | 58 GIR 跟 3-putt avoidance 基本上是成反比的，GIR 越多，越容易有 3-putt 。 |
A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 59 你是说你基本没有GIR
//hoho
【在 d*******r 的大作中提到】
: GIR 跟 3-putt avoidance 基本上是成反比的，GIR 越多，越容易有 3-putt 。
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d*******r
发帖数: 590 | 60 The co-relationship between GIR and 3-putt avoidance is well documented.
For example, there are two players with equal putting skill. If one has a
GIR, statistically, his ball should be further away from the pin than that
of the other player without GIR who has to chip/pitch onto the green. So the
player with GIR should have more chance to 3-putt than that without GIR.
Remember it's all statistically speaking. The performance of one or two
rounds doesn't mean anything.
My GIR number per round us |
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v****e
发帖数: 19471 | 61 well, if your GIR is high, you'll have more chances to make 3-putts. this is
because your AVERAGE approach shot would leave your ball much further from
the pin than your AVERAGE green-side chip or flop shot would. So, it really
makes sense.
【在 A*f 的大作中提到】
: 你是说你基本没有GIR
: //hoho
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ET
发帖数: 10701 | 62 your assumpation is just wrong. How could you image the 2 players can be the
same putting skill..
less G.I.R, worse players, I don't believer he could put his ball into hole
by 2-putt easily.
all skill are related to each other. that's it.
the
mean
【在 d*******r 的大作中提到】
: The co-relationship between GIR and 3-putt avoidance is well documented.
: For example, there are two players with equal putting skill. If one has a
: GIR, statistically, his ball should be further away from the pin than that
: of the other player without GIR who has to chip/pitch onto the green. So the
: player with GIR should have more chance to 3-putt than that without GIR.
: Remember it's all statistically speaking. The performance of one or two
: rounds doesn't mean anything.
: My GIR number per round us
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v****e
发帖数: 19471 | 63 gotta compare on a "comparable player" or "handicap adjusted" ground.
the
hole
【在 ET 的大作中提到】
: your assumpation is just wrong. How could you image the 2 players can be the
: same putting skill..
: less G.I.R, worse players, I don't believer he could put his ball into hole
: by 2-putt easily.
: all skill are related to each other. that's it.
:
: the
: mean
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d*******r
发帖数: 590 | 64 I was speaking hypothetically about two players. Even for one player, he
just has more chance to three putt on a GIR hole than a chip-on/pitch-on
hole usually.
the
hole
【在 ET 的大作中提到】
: your assumpation is just wrong. How could you image the 2 players can be the
: same putting skill..
: less G.I.R, worse players, I don't believer he could put his ball into hole
: by 2-putt easily.
: all skill are related to each other. that's it.
:
: the
: mean
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ET
发帖数: 10701 | 65 it just sounds a joke for me.. sorry.
i don't know there is anything to argue about this.
missing g.i.r. it could be 0.5 yard missing, it could be 100-yard missing.
what left?
【在 d*******r 的大作中提到】
: I was speaking hypothetically about two players. Even for one player, he
: just has more chance to three putt on a GIR hole than a chip-on/pitch-on
: hole usually.
:
: the
: hole
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d*******r
发帖数: 590 | 66 It's not hard to understand at all.
One can miss GIR by one, two or even more shots. But the last shot to the
green should be statistically much closer to the hole than the approach shot
in regulation. This way, it gives you more chance to avoid 3-putt.
A more accurate indication of putting skill should be "putt per GIR" instead
of total putt.
【在 ET 的大作中提到】
: it just sounds a joke for me.. sorry.
: i don't know there is anything to argue about this.
: missing g.i.r. it could be 0.5 yard missing, it could be 100-yard missing.
: what left?
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t****i
发帖数: 904 | 67 this makes sense to me. when my GIR is high, the # of 3 putts definitely
goes up. for me, this is because i will end up with more 40+ feet putts. and
when the greens are tricky, i very often 3-putt these long ones.
if i miss the greens in regulation, most of the times i am pretty close to
the greens, so the pitch shot usually end up much closer to the pin than my
regulation approach shots, so most of the time i have much shorter putts,
therefore the chance of 3-putts becomes lower.
the
mean
【在 d*******r 的大作中提到】
: The co-relationship between GIR and 3-putt avoidance is well documented.
: For example, there are two players with equal putting skill. If one has a
: GIR, statistically, his ball should be further away from the pin than that
: of the other player without GIR who has to chip/pitch onto the green. So the
: player with GIR should have more chance to 3-putt than that without GIR.
: Remember it's all statistically speaking. The performance of one or two
: rounds doesn't mean anything.
: My GIR number per round us
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m****n
发帖数: 815 | 68 Do you guys have any recommendations on good coaches in Bay Area? I prefer
not to break a bank though.
【在 v****e 的大作中提到】
: 教的不错，进步也挺显著，可是这俩礼拜左边后背拉伤了，不能full swing, 只能练习
: chip shots, flop shots和putting. 明天拔火罐去。。。
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A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 69 i dont have coach.
i play by feel //kaka
you can check around the range or course you usually play.
occassionally, coach on my driving range gave me some free advice, but i
still didnt sign up yet.
【在 m****n 的大作中提到】
: Do you guys have any recommendations on good coaches in Bay Area? I prefer
: not to break a bank though.
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A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 70 i went back and check those stats again.
there is one category: avg.putt w GIR, turn out it was 2.7, while avg.putt
overall was 2.3
so the theory makes sense to me too, ie, chipping and pitching would make
closer to hole, so put pressure off your putter.
another thing is that: i dont know you guys, but to me, once i GIR, i am
very easy lose focus. i dont know if that is another reason to contribute
high 3 putts with GIR.
i checked my last 3 runs
sunnyvale: 0 GIR, 0 3putt
palo alto: 3 GIR, 3 3put
【在 t****i 的大作中提到】
: this makes sense to me. when my GIR is high, the # of 3 putts definitely
: goes up. for me, this is because i will end up with more 40+ feet putts. and
: when the greens are tricky, i very often 3-putt these long ones.
: if i miss the greens in regulation, most of the times i am pretty close to
: the greens, so the pitch shot usually end up much closer to the pin than my
: regulation approach shots, so most of the time i have much shorter putts,
: therefore the chance of 3-putts becomes lower.
:
: the
: mean
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ET
发帖数: 10701 | 71 it happens. i had that time before.
putting is the easily part, supposedly. i am talking about getting into hole
by 2-putt.
you'll find it soon..
【在 A*f 的大作中提到】
: i went back and check those stats again.
: there is one category: avg.putt w GIR, turn out it was 2.7, while avg.putt
: overall was 2.3
: so the theory makes sense to me too, ie, chipping and pitching would make
: closer to hole, so put pressure off your putter.
: another thing is that: i dont know you guys, but to me, once i GIR, i am
: very easy lose focus. i dont know if that is another reason to contribute
: high 3 putts with GIR.
: i checked my last 3 runs
: sunnyvale: 0 GIR, 0 3putt
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