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Go版 - EGC2009
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S*****y
发帖数: 2871
1
In Netherland.
Won my first game against another 7kyu from Zur.
Made many mistakes, but he made more.
Asked a pro to review the game. It was very nice other than the pro doesn't
speak much english. At the end, i felt i learnt more Japanese than Go.
No access to kgs & cannot save the kifu. Hope i can still remember those
comments when i go back.
d***a
发帖数: 13752
2
专门去荷兰下棋?真不错。介绍一下EGC吧。
S*****y
发帖数: 2871
3
Cannot type chinese here. Will write something when get back.
http://egc2009.nl/
n****g
发帖数: 14743
4
不錯

t

【在 S*****y 的大作中提到】
: In Netherland.
: Won my first game against another 7kyu from Zur.
: Made many mistakes, but he made more.
: Asked a pro to review the game. It was very nice other than the pro doesn't
: speak much english. At the end, i felt i learnt more Japanese than Go.
: No access to kgs & cannot save the kifu. Hope i can still remember those
: comments when i go back.

n****g
发帖数: 14743
5
不過你請 pro 評價 7k 的棋,實在是大材小用了

t

【在 S*****y 的大作中提到】
: In Netherland.
: Won my first game against another 7kyu from Zur.
: Made many mistakes, but he made more.
: Asked a pro to review the game. It was very nice other than the pro doesn't
: speak much english. At the end, i felt i learnt more Japanese than Go.
: No access to kgs & cannot save the kifu. Hope i can still remember those
: comments when i go back.

S*****y
发帖数: 2871
6
Lost the rapid one.
When i filled the last dami, i put my ~15 stones into self-atari.
Really the last one, or say the second last one.
Then the whole group was dead.
My opponent was kind enough to ask me if i wanted to take it back.
But i think that was too great an offer to receive.
f**l
发帖数: 2041
7
等你回到家,欢迎你写一篇关于EGC2009的报道。
S*****y
发帖数: 2871
8
Masataka Saijo Sensei is here as well.
He's retired, so Nipon Ki-in no longer sponsor his trip.
We did a loto to raise the money.
I guess he was famous, yesterday morning, no one dare to ask him to review
games.
And he felt asleep on the sofa.
S*****y
发帖数: 2871
9
Yesterday, a korean 9P Jae Ho Yang commented on the top board game.
He is famous as a commenter in Korea.
A 5P girl korean pro helped and translated.
Both Japanese & Korean Ki-In sent pros here.
Won the second one as well.
I felt my heart beaten twice faster when there was a killing.
I cannot read far enough to the end.
My opponent smoked something, not cigarette, not O2 neither. Some strange
Arabic thing I guess.
The smell annoyed me.
S*****y
发帖数: 2871
10
I have a set of Go postcard. It is very cute.
If anyone would like me to send one to you, you can pm me your address. :)
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S*****y
发帖数: 2871
11
Yes, sir

【在 f**l 的大作中提到】
: 等你回到家,欢迎你写一篇关于EGC2009的报道。
S*****y
发帖数: 2871
12
Lost my third one against a 5kyu.
I lost a fight, but i really think she's in advance all through the game.
Tomorrow is pair Go.
I planned travel around.
A taiwan Pro needs a low kyu partner to participate.
I'm hesitating. There's not so much chance to play with Pro in Pair go.
To go or not to go ...
S*****y
发帖数: 2871
13
lost the 4th one again, so now that is 2 vs 2 :(
My opponent used 5 minutes for his first move, and 10 for the second.
After one hour, we are still on the 8th move on the board.
R****i
发帖数: 2387
14
If you learned to play slowly, you will improve your play fast.

【在 S*****y 的大作中提到】
: lost the 4th one again, so now that is 2 vs 2 :(
: My opponent used 5 minutes for his first move, and 10 for the second.
: After one hour, we are still on the 8th move on the board.

G******e
发帖数: 1606
15
Did you fell sleep?

【在 S*****y 的大作中提到】
: lost the 4th one again, so now that is 2 vs 2 :(
: My opponent used 5 minutes for his first move, and 10 for the second.
: After one hour, we are still on the 8th move on the board.

S*****y
发帖数: 2871
16
Almost. There's nothing to calculate in the first 3 or 5 steps as there are
so many choices on board. You never know where you opponent gonna put his
stone.

【在 G******e 的大作中提到】
: Did you fell sleep?
S*****y
发帖数: 2871
17
Hehe,
But i feel at my level (7kyu) opening doesn't count as important as in high
level games.

【在 R****i 的大作中提到】
: If you learned to play slowly, you will improve your play fast.
S*****y
发帖数: 2871
18
Lost by 1 point...:(
hmmmmmmmm....
d***a
发帖数: 13752
19
Play slowly when the fighting starts...

high

【在 S*****y 的大作中提到】
: Hehe,
: But i feel at my level (7kyu) opening doesn't count as important as in high
: level games.

m******r
发帖数: 1686
20
If you can record your game and post it here, other friends and I can help
you to review the game a little bit.
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S*****y
发帖数: 2871
21
Thanks bear~~~
Get more incentive to play harder 6_^
S*****y
发帖数: 2871
22
On saturday I went to the beach on the lakeside. It is only 1000m away from
the hotel.
Sunday it rained all the day. I went to a park to see the deer and some
birds.
S*****y
发帖数: 2871
23
Monday, Two chinese boys came from China to join the EGC.
I played against a young 7kyu.
But i was not very in the game, and lost it in 30 minutes.
Went to the beach again, but it was cloudy, so didn't swim.
Did BBQ in the evening. A german boy helped me to light up the fire. And
then the whole family joined BBQ, so i had some nice german sausage. The
youngest boy in the family is very cute. Both he and his brother play in EGC
.
S*****y
发帖数: 2871
24
Tuesday, played with a woman.
I was behind since the 10th move until the 10th last move.
She drived my stones from one side of the board to the other, and i somehow
still had only one eye.
But Tuzi Jile Hui Yaoren :)), I cut her group and killed it when struggling
to find the other eye of my group.
Upload the game later.
S*****y
发帖数: 2871
25
The game i lost today.
Until now, it is the same as yesterday.
I don't like the joseki on the right corner, but i always forgot that i were
white. Black's left bottom seems hard to invade for me.
S*****y
发帖数: 2871
26
i felt regret on move 30 after she played 31, but i'm not sure where should
i play now?
R8 to connect my stones? Isn't that seems slow?

were

【在 S*****y 的大作中提到】
: The game i lost today.
: Until now, it is the same as yesterday.
: I don't like the joseki on the right corner, but i always forgot that i were
: white. Black's left bottom seems hard to invade for me.

S*****y
发帖数: 2871
27
By chasing my stones out, she got the free cash on right side.
Do i get a way to settle my group locally at the bottom?
And move 38 is unnecessary, or maybe not urgent?

should

【在 S*****y 的大作中提到】
: i felt regret on move 30 after she played 31, but i'm not sure where should
: i play now?
: R8 to connect my stones? Isn't that seems slow?
:
: were

S*****y
发帖数: 2871
28
I think i messed up everything now, without knowing where to go.
I felt 49 being over played (maybe not), but did not get a clue how to
handle it.

【在 S*****y 的大作中提到】
: By chasing my stones out, she got the free cash on right side.
: Do i get a way to settle my group locally at the bottom?
: And move 38 is unnecessary, or maybe not urgent?
:
: should

S*****y
发帖数: 2871
29
The game was pretty over now, with only yose left.
No fight, peacefully lost it :(

【在 S*****y 的大作中提到】
: I think i messed up everything now, without knowing where to go.
: I felt 49 being over played (maybe not), but did not get a clue how to
: handle it.

S*****y
发帖数: 2871
30
to the last move i recorded.
I lost it by 15 pts at the end.

【在 S*****y 的大作中提到】
: The game was pretty over now, with only yose left.
: No fight, peacefully lost it :(

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S*****y
发帖数: 2871
31
Everybody is welcome to make comments :)

【在 S*****y 的大作中提到】
: to the last move i recorded.
: I lost it by 15 pts at the end.

f**l
发帖数: 2041
32
30也不能说坏,你的逃跑手法可能不大好。先考虑能否在局部就地做活。如果活了,达
到了破空目的,就很好了。你这样一路跑回去,全是单官,属于典型的被养的猪。
你需要练练计算,杀棋和治孤,不要跟个机器人一样光背定式。

【在 S*****y 的大作中提到】
: By chasing my stones out, she got the free cash on right side.
: Do i get a way to settle my group locally at the bottom?
: And move 38 is unnecessary, or maybe not urgent?
:
: should

S*****y
发帖数: 2871
33
是啊,总是帮人家养猪,还特别用心。

【在 f**l 的大作中提到】
: 30也不能说坏,你的逃跑手法可能不大好。先考虑能否在局部就地做活。如果活了,达
: 到了破空目的,就很好了。你这样一路跑回去,全是单官,属于典型的被养的猪。
: 你需要练练计算,杀棋和治孤,不要跟个机器人一样光背定式。

S*****y
发帖数: 2871
34
第一次参加这么长时间的tournament。2个星期都花在围棋上面,和上班的感觉有点像
。第一个星期的星期五的时候,大家都互相说TGIF。
Groningen是从Amsterdam坐火车过去2个半小时。欧洲大陆的火车网挺发达的。在荷兰
的车站买票,他们还会打出来一张纸上面有详细的转车的信息,还有在哪儿个站台换车
。中间在Amsfoort换车只有3分钟,还担心跑不过来。还好车子一直都很准点。
在Amsterdam住了一天,晚上出去逛了一下红灯区。美人没抱到,还就在边上被人踩着
脚,拿着刀抢劫了一次。当时没看清楚小刀,兔子一样跑了。
欧洲之外的棋友,从美国过去的不是很多,大概是日本人去的最多。
f**l
发帖数: 2041
35
在红灯区被人抱了. hehe

【在 S*****y 的大作中提到】
: 第一次参加这么长时间的tournament。2个星期都花在围棋上面,和上班的感觉有点像
: 。第一个星期的星期五的时候,大家都互相说TGIF。
: Groningen是从Amsterdam坐火车过去2个半小时。欧洲大陆的火车网挺发达的。在荷兰
: 的车站买票,他们还会打出来一张纸上面有详细的转车的信息,还有在哪儿个站台换车
: 。中间在Amsfoort换车只有3分钟,还担心跑不过来。还好车子一直都很准点。
: 在Amsterdam住了一天,晚上出去逛了一下红灯区。美人没抱到,还就在边上被人踩着
: 脚,拿着刀抢劫了一次。当时没看清楚小刀,兔子一样跑了。
: 欧洲之外的棋友,从美国过去的不是很多,大概是日本人去的最多。

S*****y
发帖数: 2871
36
关于级别的软硬。
中国有位职业棋手评说欧洲的kyu级选手明显比中国的要硬。软硬这个东西太虚,对我
来说具体就是地雷大小的问题。
很明显,法国人是最大的地雷群。我在两赢一输以后的碰上的两个法国人都把我雷的不
轻。后来拿到他们的kgs上id回去一看,都是3,4kyu的报了7,8kyu的。和一个朋友
Olivier抱怨这个问题。Olivier说是因为法国请了Fan Hui 2P做他们的国家围棋教练,
所以法国整体水平就比其他欧洲国家强那么一点。做为证据,他说平常在法国国内的
tourny,要报kgs-5子,而欧洲的只要kgs-4子。
于是我很郁闷,感觉8k就是比7k弱一个子,7k就是比6k差一个。怎么法国8k就和人家的
3k等同上了。明显是大家争先恐后当地雷,把船涨上去了么。你们自己在国内玩玩就算
了,还跑到EGC上玩。
后来发现,除了法国人一般是kgs -4以外,荷兰的一般是kgs -3,德国要好一些kgs -1
到2。英国人最诚实,一般都是kgs +/-1。于是养成了一个习惯,每次下棋之前查对手
国籍,还是很能准确估计他的水平的,呵呵。有一次又碰上一个法国人,于是我和
Richard抱怨
f**l
发帖数: 2041
37
多下挑战赛, 很快就涨上去了.
我这样的就是不读书, 下野棋, 现在也混到kgs 3d了. 象你这样坚持学习的, 应该
更快. 不要害羞, 多找高手下就是了.

【在 S*****y 的大作中提到】
: 关于级别的软硬。
: 中国有位职业棋手评说欧洲的kyu级选手明显比中国的要硬。软硬这个东西太虚,对我
: 来说具体就是地雷大小的问题。
: 很明显,法国人是最大的地雷群。我在两赢一输以后的碰上的两个法国人都把我雷的不
: 轻。后来拿到他们的kgs上id回去一看,都是3,4kyu的报了7,8kyu的。和一个朋友
: Olivier抱怨这个问题。Olivier说是因为法国请了Fan Hui 2P做他们的国家围棋教练,
: 所以法国整体水平就比其他欧洲国家强那么一点。做为证据,他说平常在法国国内的
: tourny,要报kgs-5子,而欧洲的只要kgs-4子。
: 于是我很郁闷,感觉8k就是比7k弱一个子,7k就是比6k差一个。怎么法国8k就和人家的
: 3k等同上了。明显是大家争先恐后当地雷,把船涨上去了么。你们自己在国内玩玩就算

a*****g
发帖数: 19398
38


【在 S*****y 的大作中提到】
: 关于级别的软硬。
: 中国有位职业棋手评说欧洲的kyu级选手明显比中国的要硬。软硬这个东西太虚,对我
: 来说具体就是地雷大小的问题。
: 很明显,法国人是最大的地雷群。我在两赢一输以后的碰上的两个法国人都把我雷的不
: 轻。后来拿到他们的kgs上id回去一看,都是3,4kyu的报了7,8kyu的。和一个朋友
: Olivier抱怨这个问题。Olivier说是因为法国请了Fan Hui 2P做他们的国家围棋教练,
: 所以法国整体水平就比其他欧洲国家强那么一点。做为证据,他说平常在法国国内的
: tourny,要报kgs-5子,而欧洲的只要kgs-4子。
: 于是我很郁闷,感觉8k就是比7k弱一个子,7k就是比6k差一个。怎么法国8k就和人家的
: 3k等同上了。明显是大家争先恐后当地雷,把船涨上去了么。你们自己在国内玩玩就算

S*****y
发帖数: 2871
39
这次出于预算考虑,也是为了体验一下,就定的营地,住帐篷。星期三的时候下了非常
大的雨,雷鸣电闪。我躺在帐篷里,不担心帐篷塌掉也担心雨会漏进来。每次闪电的时
候就开始心里数雷声什么时候到。还好第二天钻出来的时候一切都好,至少人是干的。
就是感觉好像帐篷睡脚的地方比睡头的斜了一些,估计是心里作用。因为帐篷搭的比较
靠水边,担心是雨水冲得,于是回来又新找个地方重新安营扎寨了一番。
周围很多都是下棋的,还有一些拖家带口来的。因为大家平时都在外面活动,所以互相
认识的很快。还经常有人在营地扎堆下棋。
我的邻居大爷Marcel是13k,荷兰当地人。经常吃晚饭之后还拿出棋具,对着书摆一番
。一个人摆谱毕竟没有两个人下棋有意思。后来大家熟了,他就经常和Lasa来一盘,顺
便让Lasa给他指点两招。虽然Marcel比Lasa低了那么几个子,可是Marcel经常想在Lasa
的地盘里掏点什么出来。有一次差点成功,他利用Lasa棋的一些弱点,在里面弄出来一
块很像双活得棋。但是他自己外边的一个一路的子没有粘上,不过他没看到,还很兴奋
的喊Yeah!Seki!。结果被Lasa把那个子提了,他的Seki就没了。
c*v
发帖数: 93
40
很有趣啊,照片继续上吧。
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a*******g
发帖数: 39
41
有意思
S*****y
发帖数: 2871
42
照片最近有些问题,估计要好久,说点正事吧。
每天早上下棋的时候桌子上都会有一张快报,2,3页16开正反面的纸。多数时报报头天
的战绩,当天的日程,后几天的天气预报,周围的好去处。有时也上点棋谱,8g。这样
如果碰上如clement这样第一步需要想5分钟,一小时只下4步的对手,不至于那么无聊。
中间报过两次纠纷。一次是因为一个人把棋子放到盘上,手指没有拿开,觉得不妥,又
把棋子拿回去了。结果对手不干了。叫人调解不满后愤然离席。外国的棋手好像是很多
都有这样的想法,手不离子就不算悔棋。听说是日本的说法。后来好像决定说,棋子不
能放到棋盘上,也不能先写到棋谱里,因为放上去和脑子里想的效果不一样,对分析有
影响。
先写到谱里也不过是1步,有位哥们觉得不过瘾,于是干脆出去用他的记谱软件分析一
下各种可能。结果估计是太嚣张了,忘记躲厕所去,被人抓到了。每天会场有七八百人
,也不知道他怎么这么巧就被看到了。不知道是不是太紧张了,呵呵。我想还不如直接
用大会提供的电脑上kgs摆呢,还有个形式分析什么的。每天下的快的棋手跑出去到kgs
上再战的很多。坐那还正大光明。后来也没提有什么措施,估计是要禁止电子
g*****g
发帖数: 34805
43
棋子碰到棋盘就算下了,有人喜欢下到棋盘上还左右挪一格,这也是不允许的。

聊。

【在 S*****y 的大作中提到】
: 照片最近有些问题,估计要好久,说点正事吧。
: 每天早上下棋的时候桌子上都会有一张快报,2,3页16开正反面的纸。多数时报报头天
: 的战绩,当天的日程,后几天的天气预报,周围的好去处。有时也上点棋谱,8g。这样
: 如果碰上如clement这样第一步需要想5分钟,一小时只下4步的对手,不至于那么无聊。
: 中间报过两次纠纷。一次是因为一个人把棋子放到盘上,手指没有拿开,觉得不妥,又
: 把棋子拿回去了。结果对手不干了。叫人调解不满后愤然离席。外国的棋手好像是很多
: 都有这样的想法,手不离子就不算悔棋。听说是日本的说法。后来好像决定说,棋子不
: 能放到棋盘上,也不能先写到棋谱里,因为放上去和脑子里想的效果不一样,对分析有
: 影响。
: 先写到谱里也不过是1步,有位哥们觉得不过瘾,于是干脆出去用他的记谱软件分析一

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有人还喜欢从棋盘的一头推到另一头。刷的一声。

【在 g*****g 的大作中提到】
: 棋子碰到棋盘就算下了,有人喜欢下到棋盘上还左右挪一格,这也是不允许的。
:
: 聊。

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