s*******h
发帖数: 1361 | 1 Apologies I can only type English at work. I am not claiming that I am an
expert of this build (maybe one day), but only want to share my experience
with you and hope all barbs out there can have a lot of fun with this build.
Full guide by Dino
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/5967776983?page=1
Short guide:
Part 1 - Skills
A) Skills for all build variations
Active:
(WW)Whirlwind - Hurricane (left mouse key)
(SP)Sprint - Run Like the Wind (right mouse key)
(BR)Battle Rage - Into the Fray
Passive:
Weapons Master
Ruthless
Hidden:
Bind your "move" key to spacebar
B) Beginner's build #1
Active:
(BA)Bash - Instigation
(WC)War Cry - Impunity
(LP)Leap - Iron Impact
Passive:
Nerve of Still or Tough as Nails, depending on which one gives you more
armor
Strategy:
WC + BR -> Leap on enemy -> Bash to get more fury -> Sprint away or WW
through Mobs non-stop (depending on your situation)
Key notes:
1) always keep WC and BR on (this needs some practice)
2) use "move" to move around without WW (needs practice too)
3) don't spam Sprint. Instead recast Sprint every 3 seconds, otherwise you
fury is drain fast. (practice)
4) when WW, hold down left mouse key and move your mouse around, but still
remember to recast Sprint every 3 seconds. (practice).
5) Did I say practice?
Gears:
Main hand: Axe or Mighty weapon with LOH 400+ and preferably some IAS. Get
as much DPS as possible within your budget.
Off hand: Either
1) 1h with LOH 600+, preferably with CHD, Vit, Str, but ignore DPS
Or
2) A shield with 8+ CHC if you have enough LOH elsewhere and low on Armor/
Res.
Other gears: As much CHC as possible, and protection (Armor, Res, Vit, etc..
). Your base CHC is 23% (assuming using Axe) so aim to get at least another
17% to reach 40% which should be fairly easy.
This is a relevant safe and flexible build. With this build you can practice
for a while to familiar yourself with the concept of this build. When you
become a master of all your 7 keys (including "move"), we will swap some
skills and gears to develop you into a killing machine.
C) Master build #1
Active:
(WOTB)WOTB - Thrive On Chaos
(WC)War Cry - Impunity
(LP)Leap - Iron Impact
Passive (one of those depending on your gear):
Nerve of Still (low armor)
Tough as Nails (low armor)
Bloodthurst (very high dps)
Animosity (lack of fury)
Brawler (group fighting)
Strategy:
Find a group of mob (run pass singles) -> WC + BR -> Leap on enemy -> Sprint
away or WW through Mobs (depending on your situation) -> WOTB if necessary
(usually when fighting CC elites) -> continue with WOTB infinitely
Key notes:
1) Same as B)
2) How to keep WOTB up? Spam WW and BR to consume fury (usually when your
fury is above 50%). Always keep tornadoes on some enemies to keep fury
refilled.
3) Lead smaller groups to larger groups of mobs. Maintain no gaps between
mobs.
4) Use only Sprint on single kiting monsters, or just skip it if you feel
not worth several minutes on it.
Gears:
Main hand: Axe only with LOH 400+ and preferably some IAS. Get as much DPS
as possible within your budget. Why Axe only? 10% CHC from Weapon Master for
Axe and Mace, but Mace is too slow. The faster your weapon speed, the more
your tornado will hit targets, hence more LOH and Crit. Roughly a 1.6 APS
equals 16 hits per second per tornado.
Off hand: 1h with LOH 600+, as much CHD, Vit, Str, but ignore DPS. No shield
as you will need DPS more than anything else.
Shoes: 10%+ move speed mandatory. Without it you will spawn 3 tornado each
sprint with it 4.
Other gears: As much CHC as possible.
Still very easy and safe to start fight with Leap. Very efficient for fast
run and farming.
D) Master build #2
Active:
(WOTB)WOTB - Thrive On Chaos
(WC)War Cry - Impunity
(OP)Overpower - Crushing Advance (for more defense) or Killing Spree (for
more DPS)
Others the same as C)
Strategy:
Find a group of mob (run pass singles) -> WC + BR -> OP on enemy -> If not
enough fury take some hits -> Sprint away or WW through Mobs (depending on
your situation) -> WOTB if necessary (usually when fighting CC elites) ->
continue with WOTB infinitely
Key notes:
1) Same as C)
2) Spam OP.
Less easy to start fight than C), but grants more killing power or defense. |
g*****h
发帖数: 3335 | 2 作为0loh的barb，我觉得sprint+run like the wind能极大地提升dps
但是因为没有loh防御方面没什么效果
我现在run a2就把leap换成了sprint
既有dps又可以节省跑路时间
build.
【在 s*******h 的大作中提到】
: Apologies I can only type English at work. I am not claiming that I am an
: expert of this build (maybe one day), but only want to share my experience
: with you and hope all barbs out there can have a lot of fun with this build.
: Full guide by Dino
: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/5967776983?page=1
: Short guide:
: Part 1 - Skills
: A) Skills for all build variations
: Active:
: (WW)Whirlwind - Hurricane (left mouse key)
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n**l
发帖数: 2754 | |
s*******h
发帖数: 1361 | 4 You guys are fast to reply.
Reserving the 4th floor for later updates. |
s****n
发帖数: 1750 | 5 嗯，这个build非常流行，装备需求相对低，效率高。
bar小号正在凑装备。话说，现在str/vit/ar的装备价格飞涨。。。 |
J***o
发帖数: 553 | 6 嗯这个build很好玩，操作感不错，杀怪有效率，对装备要求还不高。。
【在 s****n 的大作中提到】
: 嗯，这个build非常流行，装备需求相对低，效率高。
: bar小号正在凑装备。话说，现在str/vit/ar的装备价格飞涨。。。
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J***o
发帖数: 553 | 7 最近玩barb/monk的明显多了很多，有次进pub一下四个barb。。一起围着一个白怪砍啊
砍的，真素欢乐。记得以前进pub基本都是dh/wiz啊
【在 s****n 的大作中提到】
: 嗯，这个build非常流行，装备需求相对低，效率高。
: bar小号正在凑装备。话说，现在str/vit/ar的装备价格飞涨。。。
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g*****e
发帖数: 10097 | 8 正研究这个呢，两个问题
1。发现move改不了，只能用default的鼠标左键
2。 War cry 产生20点努， battle rage刚好用掉，然后呢？总之俺昨天试验的结果就
是fury非常非常不够。 |
s****n
发帖数: 1750 | 9 你去option-gameplay里改一下，effective mode选上就成了
他的build是用leap和bash弄fury。
我喜欢先buff wc和rage，然后用frenzy先砍几刀把fury弄满，再变身开抡
【在 g*****e 的大作中提到】
: 正研究这个呢，两个问题
: 1。发现move改不了，只能用default的鼠标左键
: 2。 War cry 产生20点努， battle rage刚好用掉，然后呢？总之俺昨天试验的结果就
: 是fury非常非常不够。
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s*******h
发帖数: 1361 | 10 There is a separate "move" key. Look further down in your setting.
That's why I recommend bash for beginners.
【在 g*****e 的大作中提到】
: 正研究这个呢，两个问题
: 1。发现move改不了，只能用default的鼠标左键
: 2。 War cry 产生20点努， battle rage刚好用掉，然后呢？总之俺昨天试验的结果就
: 是fury非常非常不够。
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g*****e
发帖数: 10097 | 11 多谢楼上两位大婶，晚上回家再试验试验，呵呵。
【在 s*******h 的大作中提到】
: There is a separate "move" key. Look further down in your setting.
: That's why I recommend bash for beginners.
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s*******h
发帖数: 1361 | 12 Btw, you can even bash some objects like barrels to get fury before engaging
yourself in fights. |
u**o
发帖数: 4652 | 13 这个不会被NERF吧？
我的第3个号也许会是BARB |
g*****e
发帖数: 10097 | 14 frenzy俺倒是用的比较顺手，不设在鼠标上的话，乱点键盘就可以？
【在 s****n 的大作中提到】
: 你去option-gameplay里改一下，effective mode选上就成了
: 他的build是用leap和bash弄fury。
: 我喜欢先buff wc和rage，然后用frenzy先砍几刀把fury弄满，再变身开抡
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g*****e
发帖数: 10097 | 15 收到，多谢指点。俺看的那个build是用overpower,感觉布什很顺手牵羊。
看来bash, frenzy, leap都不错。
engaging
【在 s*******h 的大作中提到】
: Btw, you can even bash some objects like barrels to get fury before engaging
: yourself in fights.
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s****n
发帖数: 1750 | 16 有dh前面挡着呢，怕什么
我觉得蛮子被nerf的再惨，起码抗性/armor装是永久的，不管怎么nerf,你的str/vit/
ar装备一定是不会变的。最不济，就是不能效率杀了，还能做个tank去。哪像苦逼的远
程，nerf一次就得全身换装备
【在 u**o 的大作中提到】
: 这个不会被NERF吧？
: 我的第3个号也许会是BARB
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d*******8
发帖数: 785 | 17 恩，日常欢乐多。
WZ和DH明显都在Solo偷着乐呢。
【在 J***o 的大作中提到】
: 最近玩barb/monk的明显多了很多，有次进pub一下四个barb。。一起围着一个白怪砍啊
: 砍的，真素欢乐。记得以前进pub基本都是dh/wiz啊
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e***p
发帖数: 561 | 18 其实我觉着这个build的核心技能是
sprint, battle rage/into the fray, 亚赛人
war cry 当然也要有
其它的像ww,bash, frenzy, charge 什莫的就随意了。
passive 感觉 ruthless必需，weapon master就不一定了，取决于你的装备或fury产生
的快慢，像我的主手是匕首，另外两个技能就是superstition和rentless.
chc30操作熟练的话足够了 |
s*******h
发帖数: 1361 | 19 You are on a different build. WW is mandatory for this build, hence the name
double tornado.
【在 e***p 的大作中提到】
: 其实我觉着这个build的核心技能是
: sprint, battle rage/into the fray, 亚赛人
: war cry 当然也要有
: 其它的像ww,bash, frenzy, charge 什莫的就随意了。
: passive 感觉 ruthless必需，weapon master就不一定了，取决于你的装备或fury产生
: 的快慢，像我的主手是匕首，另外两个技能就是superstition和rentless.
: chc30操作熟练的话足够了
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S******a
发帖数: 862 | 20 学习了，回去先找hell试试。
我CHD 250, CHC 42,但是只有220LOH
准备淘一个LOH低DPS副手武器换下盾牌。这样少了CHC，但愿变身前34也够了。
build.
【在 s*******h 的大作中提到】
: Apologies I can only type English at work. I am not claiming that I am an
: expert of this build (maybe one day), but only want to share my experience
: with you and hope all barbs out there can have a lot of fun with this build.
: Full guide by Dino
: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/5967776983?page=1
: Short guide:
: Part 1 - Skills
: A) Skills for all build variations
: Active:
: (WW)Whirlwind - Hurricane (left mouse key)
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s**i
发帖数: 4448 | 21 对，这是另一个BUILD。主旨是先用SPRINT的小风儿把怪血先销掉一半儿，间或用复仇
，冲锋搞一下，最后觉得差不多了，变身去砍死。
原来试过WW+SPRINT，因为装备和DPS不够，常旋进去出不来，只好用了上面这种折衷的
办法。没有WW爽，但是对穷人BARB是个解决攻击装备不够的办法。
【在 e***p 的大作中提到】
: 其实我觉着这个build的核心技能是
: sprint, battle rage/into the fray, 亚赛人
: war cry 当然也要有
: 其它的像ww,bash, frenzy, charge 什莫的就随意了。
: passive 感觉 ruthless必需，weapon master就不一定了，取决于你的装备或fury产生
: 的快慢，像我的主手是匕首，另外两个技能就是superstition和rentless.
: chc30操作熟练的话足够了
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s****n
发帖数: 1750 | 22 是这样，chc不够的话，ww+sprint撑不住的
【在 s**i 的大作中提到】
: 对，这是另一个BUILD。主旨是先用SPRINT的小风儿把怪血先销掉一半儿，间或用复仇
: ，冲锋搞一下，最后觉得差不多了，变身去砍死。
: 原来试过WW+SPRINT，因为装备和DPS不够，常旋进去出不来，只好用了上面这种折衷的
: 办法。没有WW爽，但是对穷人BARB是个解决攻击装备不够的办法。
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s*******h
发帖数: 1361 | 23 Most likely it's not because of your gears or DPS. DPS is irrelevant if you
can last forever. You are probably not clicking your keys at the right
timing or positioning yourself well enough.
【在 s**i 的大作中提到】
: 对，这是另一个BUILD。主旨是先用SPRINT的小风儿把怪血先销掉一半儿，间或用复仇
: ，冲锋搞一下，最后觉得差不多了，变身去砍死。
: 原来试过WW+SPRINT，因为装备和DPS不够，常旋进去出不来，只好用了上面这种折衷的
: 办法。没有WW爽，但是对穷人BARB是个解决攻击装备不够的办法。
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S******a
发帖数: 862 | 24 技能输出不看副手DPS么？
you
【在 s*******h 的大作中提到】
: Most likely it's not because of your gears or DPS. DPS is irrelevant if you
: can last forever. You are probably not clicking your keys at the right
: timing or positioning yourself well enough.
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s*******h
发帖数: 1361 | 25 Not Tornado, and half for WW.
【在 S******a 的大作中提到】
: 技能输出不看副手DPS么？
:
: you
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S******a
发帖数: 862 | 26 又勾起了我伤心的回忆，
昨天miss了一把610DPS + 830LOH + 孔 + 100 vit的武器
1.5M被秒
【在 s*******h 的大作中提到】
: Not Tornado, and half for WW.
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e***p
发帖数: 561 | 27
通常情况下不停地跑，小旋风能把两拨elites旋死，亚赛人还维持着状态。
这个build对穷barb真的很友好。
【在 s**i 的大作中提到】
: 对，这是另一个BUILD。主旨是先用SPRINT的小风儿把怪血先销掉一半儿，间或用复仇
: ，冲锋搞一下，最后觉得差不多了，变身去砍死。
: 原来试过WW+SPRINT，因为装备和DPS不够，常旋进去出不来，只好用了上面这种折衷的
: 办法。没有WW爽，但是对穷人BARB是个解决攻击装备不够的办法。
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s***f
发帖数: 300 | 28 How much dps do you think is needed for this build to be effective in A3/4?
I tried this build briefly when I was really under geared in A2 before patch
1.0.3. I can kill two elite packs together with this build with 500 AR,
6000 AMR and 9k dos, but it took a long long time...
build.
【在 s*******h 的大作中提到】
: Apologies I can only type English at work. I am not claiming that I am an
: expert of this build (maybe one day), but only want to share my experience
: with you and hope all barbs out there can have a lot of fun with this build.
: Full guide by Dino
: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/5967776983?page=1
: Short guide:
: Part 1 - Skills
: A) Skills for all build variations
: Active:
: (WW)Whirlwind - Hurricane (left mouse key)
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S******a
发帖数: 862 | 29 铞丝版旋风流, 50k改装完毕，真心便宜
花了25k买了个副手410DPS ＋ 孔 ＋ 350 LOH
花了25k买了个手套7.5CHC ＋ 28AR ＋ 55str ＋ 敏捷单抗若干
在ACT1 练习了一会儿，还是不敢去ACT2
【在 s*******h 的大作中提到】
: Not Tornado, and half for WW.
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S******a
发帖数: 862 | 30 这个build的问题是，碰到控场怎么办？
还是需要塞亚人么？
build.
【在 s*******h 的大作中提到】
: Apologies I can only type English at work. I am not claiming that I am an
: expert of this build (maybe one day), but only want to share my experience
: with you and hope all barbs out there can have a lot of fun with this build.
: Full guide by Dino
: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/5967776983?page=1
: Short guide:
: Part 1 - Skills
: A) Skills for all build variations
: Active:
: (WW)Whirlwind - Hurricane (left mouse key)
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s*******h
发帖数: 1361 | 31 Dino claims that he kills everything in A3 super fast with only around 10k
dps.
I myself have joined some public games with 4pp in A3/4 and I can kill elite
mobs reasonably fast with around 40k dps unbuffed with no help from other
players. Since HP for 4pp game is 440%, my solo equivalent dps is around 10k
too. There are sometimes extra health or shielding dudes that take longer
to kill though. I did have WOTB on almost all the time.
Is your AR and armor buffed? If not then you should do OK in A3/4 (assuming
you have enough LOH and CHC).
patch
【在 s***f 的大作中提到】
: How much dps do you think is needed for this build to be effective in A3/4?
: I tried this build briefly when I was really under geared in A2 before patch
: 1.0.3. I can kill two elite packs together with this build with 500 AR,
: 6000 AMR and 9k dos, but it took a long long time...
:
: build.
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s*******h
发帖数: 1361 | 32 Yes, WOTB, once we are done with the beginner's build. For practice you can
just run around.
【在 S******a 的大作中提到】
: 这个build的问题是，碰到控场怎么办？
: 还是需要塞亚人么？
:
: build.
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g*****e
发帖数: 10097 | 33 Update一下，昨天去A1练习了一番，果然要看手感的，要在正确的时间点正确的键，呵
呵。不过确实很好玩，特别是碰到一群小怪的时候，围着他们转圈就行了。
唯一个问题，碰上会禁锢和冰冻的经营怎么办？ |
S******a
发帖数: 862 | 34 我发现装备不够还是挺危险的，手一残就失败了。
原来碾压A1，这样一搞容错率反而变低了。
不过可能是因为我玩HC，命比效率重要一点，血少于一半就得逃了。
can
【在 s*******h 的大作中提到】
: Yes, WOTB, once we are done with the beginner's build. For practice you can
: just run around.
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g*****e
发帖数: 10097 | 35 是这样的，一旦节奏被打乱就危险了，连个保命的招都没有，好在俺的蛮子不是HC~~~
【在 S******a 的大作中提到】
: 我发现装备不够还是挺危险的，手一残就失败了。
: 原来碾压A1，这样一搞容错率反而变低了。
: 不过可能是因为我玩HC，命比效率重要一点，血少于一半就得逃了。
:
: can
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g*****h
发帖数: 3335 | 36 我觉得这个build不是给hc玩的 .....
【在 S******a 的大作中提到】
: 我发现装备不够还是挺危险的，手一残就失败了。
: 原来碾压A1，这样一搞容错率反而变低了。
: 不过可能是因为我玩HC，命比效率重要一点，血少于一半就得逃了。
:
: can
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e***p
发帖数: 561 | 37
变身吧
【在 g*****e 的大作中提到】
: Update一下，昨天去A1练习了一番，果然要看手感的，要在正确的时间点正确的键，呵
: 呵。不过确实很好玩，特别是碰到一群小怪的时候，围着他们转圈就行了。
: 唯一个问题，碰上会禁锢和冰冻的经营怎么办？
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S******a
发帖数: 862 | 38 唉，白花钱堆爆击爆伤了，现在全抗太低A2出不了门。
老老实实FARM A1
【在 g*****h 的大作中提到】
: 我觉得这个build不是给hc玩的 .....
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S******a
发帖数: 862 | 39 狂乱放鼠标左键，空格改成旋风，leap不要了。
这样操作很无脑，没怒了左键肉搏2,3下，怒满了空格＋右键双旋风，基本不需要跑圈
圈了。
然后防吼cool down刚好是攻吼的有效时间，每次防吼摁出来就顺带摁攻吼。
【在 g*****e 的大作中提到】
: 是这样的，一旦节奏被打乱就危险了，连个保命的招都没有，好在俺的蛮子不是HC~~~
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s*******h
发帖数: 1361 | 40 Updated with two more builds. |
