S******r
发帖数: 1813 | 1 冲着奖励去得， 是中等速度玩儿，T30还是IS-4快些？
IS-4起点是KV-3。 T30起点是M3-Lee。
兄弟们给俺讲讲吧，谢谢！
背景贴这里看： http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/Game/31359257.html |
c****n
发帖数: 21367 | 2 IS-4... T30是10级...
【在 S******r 的大作中提到】
: 冲着奖励去得， 是中等速度玩儿，T30还是IS-4快些？
: IS-4起点是KV-3。 T30起点是M3-Lee。
: 兄弟们给俺讲讲吧，谢谢！
: 背景贴这里看： http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/Game/31359257.html
|
n********t
发帖数: 1843 | 3 看你td实力了，我玩了Su51之后觉得攀顶级车不能取巧的，要是之前没有td的经验，白
得一辆10级TD，开出去八成坑队友。 |
W*********s
发帖数: 656 | 4 先冲T34，T34最早变(今年年底之前)，先拿一辆premium再说。然后看进一步消息，看
IS4和T30谁先变就先冲谁。 |
p****t
发帖数: 11416 | 5 我的看法是喜欢哪系车就冲哪系
到明年说不定你/大家早就对山口丅失去兴趣了
【在 W*********s 的大作中提到】
: 先冲T34，T34最早变(今年年底之前)，先拿一辆premium再说。然后看进一步消息，看
: IS4和T30谁先变就先冲谁。
|
f******n
发帖数: 159 | 6 http://worldoftanks.com/news/733-world-tanks-release-plan-2011-
heavy tanks M103, T110, tank destroyer T25-2 - Q1 2012.
早着呢，和我一样慢慢熬！ |
S******r
发帖数: 1813 | 7 this makes sense to me. thanks! hehe
【在 W*********s 的大作中提到】
: 先冲T34，T34最早变(今年年底之前)，先拿一辆premium再说。然后看进一步消息，看
: IS4和T30谁先变就先冲谁。
|
S******r
发帖数: 1813 | 8 谢谢大家的回帖，我计算了一下所需经验值，分享如下：
KV-3 ---->IS----->IS-3---->IS-4, totally need 356k experience.
T2 Medium--->M2--->M3 Lee--->T1 Heavy--->M6---->T29---->T32-->T34 need 419k
exp, if go to T30, then totally need 655k exp.
Because T34 will be updated to a premium tank by the end of this year, so it
might be good to get T34 first, and also at same time to play some on the
way IS-4.
Given that you only need 356k exp to get a tier 10 heavy tank IS-4, it is a
steal. lol
参考消息：
发信人: leadingding (leading), 信区: Game
标 题: Re: zz FULL TECH TREES REVISED AND IMPROVED (WoT)
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Oct 27 21:43:39 2011, 美东)
http://overlord-wot.blogspot.com/2011/10/new-tanks-in-2011.html
http://forum.worldoftanks.com/index.php?/topic/64509-m103-to-be
New Tanks in 2011
There is an update regarding the introduction of new tanks in 2011, see here
. So the details:
German and Soviet TDs won't make it this year, both lines are rescheduled
for 2012
Initial package of French tanks will come in Q4 2011 (18 vehicles)
M103 and the revision of T34 is to be performed this year
A few premium tanks will also arrive later this year (the exact vehicles to
be specified)
【在 p****t 的大作中提到】
: 我的看法是喜欢哪系车就冲哪系
: 到明年说不定你/大家早就对山口丅失去兴趣了
|
r****r
发帖数: 1394 | 9 大概40多万经验到T34.得好好计划一下
【在 S******r 的大作中提到】
: this makes sense to me. thanks! hehe
|
S******r
发帖数: 1813 | 10 大牛如你还不是几个周末就搞定？ 哈哈。。。
【在 r****r 的大作中提到】
: 大概40多万经验到T34.得好好计划一下
|
|
|
r****r
发帖数: 1394 | 11 我是美元玩家。。
【在 S******r 的大作中提到】
: 大牛如你还不是几个周末就搞定？ 哈哈。。。
|
S******r
发帖数: 1813 | 12 lol
【在 r****r 的大作中提到】
: 我是美元玩家。。
|
S******r
发帖数: 1813 | 13 IS-4 is tier 9. T34(Tier 9) is comparable. T30 is tier 10. Thanks for
reminding me.
【在 c****n 的大作中提到】
: IS-4... T30是10级...
|
S******r
发帖数: 1813 | 14 experience is from practice. Thanks. lol...
【在 n********t 的大作中提到】
: 看你td实力了，我玩了Su51之后觉得攀顶级车不能取巧的，要是之前没有td的经验，白
: 得一辆10级TD，开出去八成坑队友。
|
S******r
发帖数: 1813 | 15 VIP is easy to get 10k exp in a day, saying play 2 hours or less?
【在 r****r 的大作中提到】
: 我是美元玩家。。
|
S******r
发帖数: 1813 | 16 冲着奖励去得， 是中等速度玩儿，T30还是IS-4快些？
IS-4起点是KV-3。 T30起点是M3-Lee。
兄弟们给俺讲讲吧，谢谢！
背景贴这里看： http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/Game/31359257.html |
c****n
发帖数: 21367 | 17 IS-4... T30是10级...
【在 S******r 的大作中提到】
: 冲着奖励去得， 是中等速度玩儿，T30还是IS-4快些？
: IS-4起点是KV-3。 T30起点是M3-Lee。
: 兄弟们给俺讲讲吧，谢谢！
: 背景贴这里看： http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/Game/31359257.html
|
n********t
发帖数: 1843 | 18 看你td实力了，我玩了Su51之后觉得攀顶级车不能取巧的，要是之前没有td的经验，白
得一辆10级TD，开出去八成坑队友。 |
W*********s
发帖数: 656 | 19 先冲T34，T34最早变(今年年底之前)，先拿一辆premium再说。然后看进一步消息，看
IS4和T30谁先变就先冲谁。 |
p****t
发帖数: 11416 | 20 我的看法是喜欢哪系车就冲哪系
到明年说不定你/大家早就对山口丅失去兴趣了
【在 W*********s 的大作中提到】
: 先冲T34，T34最早变(今年年底之前)，先拿一辆premium再说。然后看进一步消息，看
: IS4和T30谁先变就先冲谁。
|
|
|
f******n
发帖数: 159 | 21 http://worldoftanks.com/news/733-world-tanks-release-plan-2011-
heavy tanks M103, T110, tank destroyer T25-2 - Q1 2012.
早着呢，和我一样慢慢熬！ |
S******r
发帖数: 1813 | 22 this makes sense to me. thanks! hehe
【在 W*********s 的大作中提到】
: 先冲T34，T34最早变(今年年底之前)，先拿一辆premium再说。然后看进一步消息，看
: IS4和T30谁先变就先冲谁。
|
S******r
发帖数: 1813 | 23 谢谢大家的回帖，我计算了一下所需经验值，分享如下：
KV-3 ---->IS----->IS-3---->IS-4, totally need 356k experience.
T2 Medium--->M2--->M3 Lee--->T1 Heavy--->M6---->T29---->T32-->T34 need 419k
exp, if go to T30, then totally need 655k exp.
Because T34 will be updated to a premium tank by the end of this year, so it
might be good to get T34 first, and also at same time to play some on the
way IS-4.
Given that you only need 356k exp to get a tier 10 heavy tank IS-4, it is a
steal. lol
参考消息：
发信人: leadingding (leading), 信区: Game
标 题: Re: zz FULL TECH TREES REVISED AND IMPROVED (WoT)
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Oct 27 21:43:39 2011, 美东)
http://overlord-wot.blogspot.com/2011/10/new-tanks-in-2011.html
http://forum.worldoftanks.com/index.php?/topic/64509-m103-to-be
New Tanks in 2011
There is an update regarding the introduction of new tanks in 2011, see here
. So the details:
German and Soviet TDs won't make it this year, both lines are rescheduled
for 2012
Initial package of French tanks will come in Q4 2011 (18 vehicles)
M103 and the revision of T34 is to be performed this year
A few premium tanks will also arrive later this year (the exact vehicles to
be specified)
【在 p****t 的大作中提到】
: 我的看法是喜欢哪系车就冲哪系
: 到明年说不定你/大家早就对山口丅失去兴趣了
|
r****r
发帖数: 1394 | 24 大概40多万经验到T34.得好好计划一下
【在 S******r 的大作中提到】
: this makes sense to me. thanks! hehe
|
S******r
发帖数: 1813 | 25 大牛如你还不是几个周末就搞定？ 哈哈。。。
【在 r****r 的大作中提到】
: 大概40多万经验到T34.得好好计划一下
|
r****r
发帖数: 1394 | 26 我是美元玩家。。
【在 S******r 的大作中提到】
: 大牛如你还不是几个周末就搞定？ 哈哈。。。
|
S******r
发帖数: 1813 | 27 lol
【在 r****r 的大作中提到】
: 我是美元玩家。。
|
S******r
发帖数: 1813 | 28 IS-4 is tier 9. T34(Tier 9) is comparable. T30 is tier 10. Thanks for
reminding me.
【在 c****n 的大作中提到】
: IS-4... T30是10级...
|
S******r
发帖数: 1813 | 29 experience is from practice. Thanks. lol...
【在 n********t 的大作中提到】
: 看你td实力了，我玩了Su51之后觉得攀顶级车不能取巧的，要是之前没有td的经验，白
: 得一辆10级TD，开出去八成坑队友。
|
S******r
发帖数: 1813 | 30 VIP is easy to get 10k exp in a day, saying play 2 hours or less?
【在 r****r 的大作中提到】
: 我是美元玩家。。
|
|
|
S******r
发帖数: 1813 | 31 Just got a M4 Sherman and makes like average 300 xp per battle. It needs
1430 battles to get 430k xp for buying a T34. It seems it is impossible for
me to get T34 before it is upgraded into a premium tank la. sigh....
419k
it
a
【在 S******r 的大作中提到】
: 谢谢大家的回帖，我计算了一下所需经验值，分享如下：
: KV-3 ---->IS----->IS-3---->IS-4, totally need 356k experience.
: T2 Medium--->M2--->M3 Lee--->T1 Heavy--->M6---->T29---->T32-->T34 need 419k
: exp, if go to T30, then totally need 655k exp.
: Because T34 will be updated to a premium tank by the end of this year, so it
: might be good to get T34 first, and also at same time to play some on the
: way IS-4.
: Given that you only need 356k exp to get a tier 10 heavy tank IS-4, it is a
: steal. lol
: 参考消息：
|
M*****S
发帖数: 617 | 32 没说的，上vip.....
有了vip，M6我场均就是600，T29会更高，easy很多丫
for
【在 S******r 的大作中提到】
: Just got a M4 Sherman and makes like average 300 xp per battle. It needs
: 1430 battles to get 430k xp for buying a T34. It seems it is impossible for
: me to get T34 before it is upgraded into a premium tank la. sigh....
:
: 419k
: it
: a
|
S******r
发帖数: 1813 | 33 even vip, still need lots of hours to get exp. lol
【在 M*****S 的大作中提到】
: 没说的，上vip.....
: 有了vip，M6我场均就是600，T29会更高，easy很多丫
:
: for
|
S******r
发帖数: 1813 | 34 我发现不能将我的KV和KV-3的经验用金币转成全局经验，难道只有金币车和完全体的经
验可以转？
需要10万经验从M6跳过T29，直接出T32.
for
【在 S******r 的大作中提到】
: Just got a M4 Sherman and makes like average 300 xp per battle. It needs
: 1430 battles to get 430k xp for buying a T34. It seems it is impossible for
: me to get T34 before it is upgraded into a premium tank la. sigh....
:
: 419k
: it
: a
|
p****t
发帖数: 11416 | 35 对，只有没有配件可研究的车子的经验可以转
【在 S******r 的大作中提到】
: 我发现不能将我的KV和KV-3的经验用金币转成全局经验，难道只有金币车和完全体的经
: 验可以转？
: 需要10万经验从M6跳过T29，直接出T32.
:
: for
|
T*R
发帖数: 25894 | 36 higher lvl vehicle will yield more exp per battle, so may not take 1430
battles to get T34 as you advancing through the tech tree.
for
【在 S******r 的大作中提到】
: Just got a M4 Sherman and makes like average 300 xp per battle. It needs
: 1430 battles to get 430k xp for buying a T34. It seems it is impossible for
: me to get T34 before it is upgraded into a premium tank la. sigh....
:
: 419k
: it
: a
|
S******r
发帖数: 1813 | 37 这也太坑爹了啊！
现在能转的才1500xp，太少啦。
难道我还要把那几个完全体PzkpIII啥的买回来？
【在 p****t 的大作中提到】
: 对，只有没有配件可研究的车子的经验可以转
|
S******r
发帖数: 1813 | 38 感觉到了，现在打M6大约每场平均下来有500xp。 呵呵。。。
T29这个坑难道难道非得跳吗？现在全局经验才18k。
【在 T*R 的大作中提到】
: higher lvl vehicle will yield more exp per battle, so may not take 1430
: battles to get T34 as you advancing through the tech tree.
:
: for
|
s********f
发帖数: 3924 | 39 T29坑吗？ 铁头功不是很牛逼的吗？
【在 S******r 的大作中提到】
: 感觉到了，现在打M6大约每场平均下来有500xp。 呵呵。。。
: T29这个坑难道难道非得跳吗？现在全局经验才18k。
|
p****t
发帖数: 11416 | 40 美系HT从T29往后还真不算坑啊
只要合理利用地形藏住车身，那炮塔还是很无双的
【在 S******r 的大作中提到】
: 感觉到了，现在打M6大约每场平均下来有500xp。 呵呵。。。
: T29这个坑难道难道非得跳吗？现在全局经验才18k。
|
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r****r
发帖数: 1394 | 41 T29是7级霸王。谁说T29坑
【在 s********f 的大作中提到】
: T29坑吗？ 铁头功不是很牛逼的吗？
|
S******r
发帖数: 1813 | 42 不是说T32是铁头顶牛大王吗？ 呵呵。。。
【在 s********f 的大作中提到】
: T29坑吗？ 铁头功不是很牛逼的吗？
|
p****t
发帖数: 11416 | 43 T29以后的美系HT都一个德行
T34被称为坑也仅仅是因为白板期炮不给力
【在 S******r 的大作中提到】
: 不是说T32是铁头顶牛大王吗？ 呵呵。。。
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S******r
发帖数: 1813 | 44 刚查了一下，T29开始炮塔就有297mm的装甲了，真是铁头功啊！
上105mm炮居然要40700xp！
【在 p****t 的大作中提到】
: T29以后的美系HT都一个德行
: T34被称为坑也仅仅是因为白板期炮不给力
|
x****u
发帖数: 12955 | 45
And 180k credits.
【在 S******r 的大作中提到】
: 刚查了一下，T29开始炮塔就有297mm的装甲了，真是铁头功啊！
: 上105mm炮居然要40700xp！
|
S******r
发帖数: 1813 | 46 credits easier than xp in my opinion. lol...
【在 x****u 的大作中提到】
:
: And 180k credits.
|
S******r
发帖数: 1813 | 47 Posted Nov 19 2011 - 03:07
Just revising the original post a bit to reflect what we know so far! All
credit goes to OP+ info available on the site. Bold Italics denote revised
statements.
...[Beginning of thread left out]...
Conventions
- Almost all data was sourced from the WOT database. [I had to look up
Pz38NA and KV-13 values in-game.]
- The calculations show the absolute minimum XP and credits necessary to
unlock a given "freebie" tank.
-- I fully recognize that many players will wish to unlock certain "extra"
upgrades - guns, tracks, engines, etc. - along the way. For example, I
played both the T29 and the T32 to "Elite" status to make them a part of my
"grinding" stable of tanks.
-- However, because there are so many combinations of possible "extra"
upgrades and player preferences, that in the interests of time I leave it to
others to compute these credit and XP costs over and above the "absolute
minimum". [In other words, player choice rules.]
- One semi-exception to the above is that for the KV, I have assumed that
players will unlock the KV-2 turret before "moving on" to the KV-3 and the
IS-4, both because 95% of KV owners would do that anyway, and because
spending the incremental 2,595 XP to get the KV-2 "freebie" tank before
continuing the grind looks like an absolute no-brainer.
- German Tech tree changes have already been applied.
- The Russian tech tree has two alternate pathways to the IS-4; one
bypassing the KV-3 through the KV-1S, and the other going up the medium
branch and switching to the IS from the KV-13. I have included calculations
for both methods, although I suspect that very few, if any, players will
choose to bypass the KV-3 (in particular as unlocking it leads to one of the
"freebie" tanks), probably for "sentimental" reasons. On the other hand, it
is very possible to imagine a player choosing to play mostly Russian
mediums and no Russian heavies, and switching to the IS via the KV-13 just
to pick up an IS-4.
- The American Tech tree has an alternate pathway around the T1 Heavy Tank.
M3 Lee-->M4 Sherman-->M4A3E2 Jumbo-->M6. Though the T1 path is shorter and
requires less XP, both the shermans are considered by most of the WOT
community to be more competent tanks in general. If the T1 Heavy tank is not
for you, the shermans offer an enjoyable alternative as well as an entry
into the US Medium tank line.
- Obviously all calculations are performed as of the 6.4 build; these are
not revised to the 6.7 standard as of yet.
General principles
- A premium account is highly advisable.
- Doing a majority of the grind via free XP transfers is probably more
advisable than grinding up through each tank with no free experience
whatsoever. For one, the latter method would require considerable "extra"
upgrades to be unlocked so as to render certain tanks "playable" (new guns,
suspension, engines, etc.).
- The Lowe and the KV-5 and the Type 59 make for excellent credit and XP
farmers. Failing that, any Tier 5 premiums (with an emphasis on the
Churchill and the T14 as heavy tanks) could substitute, as could "Elite" non
-premium tanks, although effective farming on non-premium tanks generally
requires higher player skill.
- Seeing that the T34 will be revised the soonest as of mid-November, it is
very recommended you go for it. It will become a Tier VIII premium tank with
120mm gun already attached, similar in price and credit-earning potential
to the Lowe, KV-5, and Type 59. It will give you a means of grinding out the
credits you'll need to make those purchases.
- Taking advantage of nightly "victory" bonuses is advisable.
Timing considerations
Based on the information provided here as well as the developer Q&A thread
on the Russian forums as well as Overlord's Blog and Dev Q&A on these forums
- 6.5 has gone live.
- 6.6 has gone live, and so has the Panther/ Panther II revision.
- T34 change will occur on patch 7.1 along with the arrival of the French
Tanks, December 2011.
- IS-4, KV-1/2 and KV-3 are planned post 7.1, Q1 2012.
- T30 change will occur after 7.1, Q1 2012.
As such, the "optimal" unlock order would seem to be:
- Panther has already been revised
- Grind up to the T34 [Target date - late December 2011; possibly early to
mid January 2012.]
- Grind up to IS-4 [Target date - January 2012 at the earliest, probably
closer to March 2012.]
- Grind up from the T34 to the T30. [Target date - January 2012 at the
earliest, probably closer to March 2012.]
- If the KV and the KV-3 were bypassed on the way to the IS-4, unlock them.
[Target date - January 2012 at the earliest, probably closer to March 2012.]
All dates and sequencing subject to change without warning.
I hope that the OP will eventually update the original post. I am doing this
in thanks to the original message, which has helped me plan my grinds
accordingly. |
g*******n
发帖数: 644 | 48 wow~~~t32 11万经验了，还差7万
【在 S******r 的大作中提到】
: Posted Nov 19 2011 - 03:07
: Just revising the original post a bit to reflect what we know so far! All
: credit goes to OP+ info available on the site. Bold Italics denote revised
: statements.
: ...[Beginning of thread left out]...
: Conventions
: - Almost all data was sourced from the WOT database. [I had to look up
: Pz38NA and KV-13 values in-game.]
: - The calculations show the absolute minimum XP and credits necessary to
: unlock a given "freebie" tank.
|
p*******t
发帖数: 501 | 49 我还差8万...真累....特别这个105炮真不给力，各种不穿....
【在 g*******n 的大作中提到】
: wow~~~t32 11万经验了，还差7万
|
S******r
发帖数: 1813 | 50 不错！ 俺还差9万！
【在 g*******n 的大作中提到】
: wow~~~t32 11万经验了，还差7万
|
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M*****S
发帖数: 617 | 51 5w here
【在 S******r 的大作中提到】
: 不错！ 俺还差9万！
|
C******y
发帖数: 1997 | 52 14万...
But should have enough time
【在 M*****S 的大作中提到】
: 5w here
|
S******r
发帖数: 1813 | 53 大家都很快嘛！ 哈哈。。。
【在 C******y 的大作中提到】
: 14万...
: But should have enough time
|
S******r
发帖数: 1813 | 54 4万经验到T34! lol...
【在 S******r 的大作中提到】
: 大家都很快嘛！ 哈哈。。。
|
g*******n
发帖数: 644 | 55 me too
【在 S******r 的大作中提到】
: 4万经验到T34! lol...
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S******r
发帖数: 1813 | 56 加油！！！！！！！！
【在 g*******n 的大作中提到】
: me too
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