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Football版 - Insult to injury, TE Martellus Bennett passes physical and practices with the Patriots
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T*******e
发帖数: 4110
1
Literally it is insult to injury. TE Martellus Bennett passes physical and
practices with the Patriots
Marty是行为艺术家不假。但现在重温这件事,感觉包包作了啥,让Marty这样的行为艺
术家受不了了, 以这样的方式离开包包。
b*****e
发帖数: 53215
2
就是没了肥龙他刷不到数据 下份工作不好找吧
这种张嘴扯谎说自己受伤的nfl也不管?

【在 T*******e 的大作中提到】
: Literally it is insult to injury. TE Martellus Bennett passes physical and
: practices with the Patriots
: Marty是行为艺术家不假。但现在重温这件事,感觉包包作了啥,让Marty这样的行为艺
: 术家受不了了, 以这样的方式离开包包。

T*******e
发帖数: 4110
3
觉得包包应该有recourse吧。要不然都这样,老板们都赔了媳妇又折兵。
如果包包息事宁人,那可能还真有什么故事在里边。

【在 b*****e 的大作中提到】
: 就是没了肥龙他刷不到数据 下份工作不好找吧
: 这种张嘴扯谎说自己受伤的nfl也不管?

l*x
发帖数: 14021
4
I have to replied this for the way you pointed finger to the Packers. There
have already been Patriots fans shit straight on my face saying suck it
because Packers are a shitty organization and how much better the Patriots
are, so MB deserves to abandon us.
We gave him 3 years 21M contracts with 6.3M signon bonus.
The whole teams support his charity works by filming "Text Back Pack" emojo
gifs which I post here yesterday.
Fans voted to let him wear our beloved Donald Driver's #80.
The shittiest of all was the team even participate the anthem kneeling thing
because of him.
As soon as Aaron Rodgers went down, he ruled out for the games, and declared
retirement after the season. He requested season ending surgery on his
shoulder. Then as soon as he was claimed by the Patriots, he not only passed
the physical, but also able to practice.
He betrayed us cold-hearted as soon as we were in trouble. ZERO loyalty and
commitment. You came out and asked what did the Packers did to him??????
Maybe if unfortunately Patriots are out of SB contention, you can ask
yourself what the Patriots do to him. Lucky you, your Patriots are a winner,
can go around and get laid.

【在 T*******e 的大作中提到】
: Literally it is insult to injury. TE Martellus Bennett passes physical and
: practices with the Patriots
: Marty是行为艺术家不假。但现在重温这件事,感觉包包作了啥,让Marty这样的行为艺
: 术家受不了了, 以这样的方式离开包包。

T*******e
发帖数: 4110
5
你这屁股坐的,别人说个啥都是黑你包。
前面说个发叔巨碗赛季O和D都第一,你也bickering.
要不是了解你,都觉得你是站方拉仇恨挣流量的机器人,
还不说你就一定比我粉发叔。
还是说你见个人就要和人比谁更粉你包。
我就是觉得奇怪,这也行的意思,想了解些内幕,你这全是emotion.

There
emojo
thing
declared

【在 l*x 的大作中提到】
: I have to replied this for the way you pointed finger to the Packers. There
: have already been Patriots fans shit straight on my face saying suck it
: because Packers are a shitty organization and how much better the Patriots
: are, so MB deserves to abandon us.
: We gave him 3 years 21M contracts with 6.3M signon bonus.
: The whole teams support his charity works by filming "Text Back Pack" emojo
: gifs which I post here yesterday.
: Fans voted to let him wear our beloved Donald Driver's #80.
: The shittiest of all was the team even participate the anthem kneeling thing
: because of him.

T*******e
发帖数: 4110
6
Marty签了三年的合同。
刷数据也不一定非要现在。
龙哥显然更年轻,
汤锅大家觉得有一顿儿享受一顿儿的样子,
毕竟40了。
跟着龙哥,显然更长远。
除非Marty觉得有希望HOF。
要只争朝夕。
可他好TE不假,但HOF好像离他好遥远阿。
Marty再刷也刷不过联盟有数的那几个TE。
而且还得和巨汉share snaps.
搞不懂。
所以感到太奇怪。

【在 b*****e 的大作中提到】
: 就是没了肥龙他刷不到数据 下份工作不好找吧
: 这种张嘴扯谎说自己受伤的nfl也不管?

l*x
发帖数: 14021
7
well. isn't that how you guys claimed I am the "biggest Brady hater" here?
or how people say something about Tommy the GOAT?
If you want to know the details, why don't you go find out yourself. you can
straight up ask MB as he is practicing with the team right now in NE. But
you decided to put the suspicion on the Packers first. Same as many Patriots
fans that I talked to. Don't pretend to be innocent here like MB. I've got
enough shit from your patriots fans riding on high horses.

【在 T*******e 的大作中提到】
: 你这屁股坐的,别人说个啥都是黑你包。
: 前面说个发叔巨碗赛季O和D都第一,你也bickering.
: 要不是了解你,都觉得你是站方拉仇恨挣流量的机器人,
: 还不说你就一定比我粉发叔。
: 还是说你见个人就要和人比谁更粉你包。
: 我就是觉得奇怪,这也行的意思,想了解些内幕,你这全是emotion.
:
: There
: emojo
: thing

l*x
发帖数: 14021
8

I re-post the facts potion of my post here if you don't want to go back to
my original "all emotion" post. Maybe that's not the facts you want to see.
"We gave him 3 years 21M contracts with 6.3M signon bonus.
The whole teams support his charity works by filming "Text Back Pack" emojo
gifs which I post here yesterday.
Fans voted to let him wear our beloved Donald Driver's #80.
The shittiest of all was the team even participate the anthem kneeling thing
because of him.
As soon as Aaron Rodgers went down, he ruled out for the games, and declared
retirement after the season. He requested season ending surgery on his
shoulder. Then as soon as he was claimed by the Patriots, he not only passed
the physical, but also able to practice. "

【在 T*******e 的大作中提到】
: Marty签了三年的合同。
: 刷数据也不一定非要现在。
: 龙哥显然更年轻,
: 汤锅大家觉得有一顿儿享受一顿儿的样子,
: 毕竟40了。
: 跟着龙哥,显然更长远。
: 除非Marty觉得有希望HOF。
: 要只争朝夕。
: 可他好TE不假,但HOF好像离他好遥远阿。
: Marty再刷也刷不过联盟有数的那几个TE。

C*****E
发帖数: 2679
9
我来说几句
首先MB quit on team不是一次两次
在牛仔在芝加哥都是有名的
去年应该是唯一一次没有quit on team
他有伤去年也一直被报导
体检也很难不被检查出来
所以我认为绿湾去年签他的时候took a chance,是知道what they signed up for。
吕婉went out of their way to please him (according to lpx, though I
personally had no idea)
估计也是希望他能buy in,不会quit on team。
NFL球员到了这个时候都是有伤的,不可能有谁100%
20%也可以打球,90%也可以选择不打球
这个时候愿不愿意打球,我觉得还是得看队员自己
我们是在沙发上看球的,人家是要断手断脚脑震荡的
如果MB选择不打,当然不会把他当英雄
但是对一个进入职业生涯末年,今年又拿碗希
望渺茫的老将,也是可以理解,也是跟他以前的表现是一致的
again,绿湾也是知道
他的track record的
MB来了牌子看起来又生龙活虎(so far),看起来是不太好。
但是人拿碗的希望大了一点啊,那就坚持坚持打呗
但是事先吕婉这个waived for failure to disclose injury,要go after sign-on
bonus,就很站得住脚吗?
我看也难说妥当
很多专业人士也说了,吕婉prove这个cause会很有难度
签约前有physical,现在联盟的医疗记录也是记录共享的
更何况,牌子的waiver排名很靠后,这个MB要是什么宝贝,前面的球队尽管捡嘛
Again,对MB,对绿湾来说,我觉得这都是part of the game
吕婉知道what they sign up for
应该认赌服输
这也是lpx一向以来都在教育我们的不是吗
in case there is any confusion,我可不是说拍子今年就一定拿碗,吕婉就一定拿不了
我只是尽量的客观讲讲我对MB的看法
k****e
发帖数: 2758
10
part of the game, 台上, 台下,豪!


:我来说几句
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y****9
发帖数: 216
11
别他妈给脸不要脸,去看看MB是怎么喷我包的,再去reddit上看看pats球迷给mb洗地的
嘴脸

【在 T*******e 的大作中提到】
: 你这屁股坐的,别人说个啥都是黑你包。
: 前面说个发叔巨碗赛季O和D都第一,你也bickering.
: 要不是了解你,都觉得你是站方拉仇恨挣流量的机器人,
: 还不说你就一定比我粉发叔。
: 还是说你见个人就要和人比谁更粉你包。
: 我就是觉得奇怪,这也行的意思,想了解些内幕,你这全是emotion.
:
: There
: emojo
: thing

T*******e
发帖数: 4110
12
从来对Marty的行为艺术也很呵呵.
也许这次他确实对包包的队医有了疑虑,
包包went nuclear, 采取了preemptive measure to clear him out, other than
being forced to put him on IR. Thus to Marty Packers put money over him.
也许又是Marty行为艺术的一次巅峰之作。
关于这次他自己这么说(on his instagram),
"The Packers examined my shoulder March 10 and cleared it,” Bennett wrote
on an Instagram story on Friday. “They even gave me an x-ray as well. It
got worse during the season, specifically against the Cowboys so I asked to
have it checked and we checked it. After a few days of contemplating to play
with it or get surgery, I chose surgery. Now here we are. They tried to f—
over me. Dr. McKenzie trying to cover his own ass. After trying to persuade
me to play [through] a major injury and me choosing to get surgery.
“They have access to all my medical records. My shoulder wasn't where it is
now at the beginning of the season. I f—d it up playing for the [Packers].
Dr. McKenzie didn’t make [me] feel safe and was pushing to play which I
thought was weird. Not that he was trying to get me to play [through] it,
but the way he was saying things. I didn’t trust him. So I got 3 other
opinions from doctors who all said I need to get it fixed. So I decided to
do that. And they decided to waive me with some bulls— excuse. Failure
disclose.
“Every week we do a body evaluation sheet in the weight [room] and pretty
much every week I circled my shoulder. I just kept playing but it got worse.
During the bye week I got off anti inflammatories to clean my system and
could really feel the pain. So I asked to examine it first day back in. And
that’s when we found out it was really f—d up. They knew.
“They panicked. Thinking that I was trying to go on IR and be on their
books next year. When I mentioned that I would possibly retire. So they
tried to f— me before they thought I would f— them. This was all about
money. All about money. I get it. But don’t lie homie. You knew wtf was up.
C.R.E.A.M. [cash rules everything around me].
“I had intentions of playing all 8 games as I mentioned in the post during
the bye week, but found out it was worse than I felt after getting it
checked out. Now I’m like f— it. I chose my health over the ‘team’. They
chose money over me.”

emojo
thing
declared

【在 l*x 的大作中提到】
:
: I re-post the facts potion of my post here if you don't want to go back to
: my original "all emotion" post. Maybe that's not the facts you want to see.
: "We gave him 3 years 21M contracts with 6.3M signon bonus.
: The whole teams support his charity works by filming "Text Back Pack" emojo
: gifs which I post here yesterday.
: Fans voted to let him wear our beloved Donald Driver's #80.
: The shittiest of all was the team even participate the anthem kneeling thing
: because of him.
: As soon as Aaron Rodgers went down, he ruled out for the games, and declared

l*x
发帖数: 14021
13
Now that's the inside story ThetaWave was looking for. Why didn't you share
it inside the wechat group in the first place.
MB had serious integrity issue and lack of professionalism. However you
slice it. but you happily explained it away, and turned the blame around to
the victim, claiming we took a chance and we deserved it. Where are the
common sense? Where are the moral standard? Because it works for your
Patriots???????
We treated him like a family, so we supported him and loved him. Simple as
that. And that translated into "we bent backward to pleased him so he would
buy in and won't quit". I think being in Wisconsin, I am too naive and
innocent for that logic. No wonder we got jobbed. We must be a very terrible
team having to please a player like that. Meanwhile, MB is willing to bent
backward to go back to the patriots. What a superior team you must be. I've
got enough of that shit.

【在 C*****E 的大作中提到】
: 我来说几句
: 首先MB quit on team不是一次两次
: 在牛仔在芝加哥都是有名的
: 去年应该是唯一一次没有quit on team
: 他有伤去年也一直被报导
: 体检也很难不被检查出来
: 所以我认为绿湾去年签他的时候took a chance,是知道what they signed up for。
: 吕婉went out of their way to please him (according to lpx, though I
: personally had no idea)
: 估计也是希望他能buy in,不会quit on team。

l*x
发帖数: 14021
14
Shame on you for taking his words for full credit. yep, his is a man of
credibility and integrity. Just pray Tom Brady won't go down.

to
play

【在 T*******e 的大作中提到】
: 从来对Marty的行为艺术也很呵呵.
: 也许这次他确实对包包的队医有了疑虑,
: 包包went nuclear, 采取了preemptive measure to clear him out, other than
: being forced to put him on IR. Thus to Marty Packers put money over him.
: 也许又是Marty行为艺术的一次巅峰之作。
: 关于这次他自己这么说(on his instagram),
: "The Packers examined my shoulder March 10 and cleared it,” Bennett wrote
: on an Instagram story on Friday. “They even gave me an x-ray as well. It
: got worse during the season, specifically against the Cowboys so I asked to
: have it checked and we checked it. After a few days of contemplating to play

s*****o
发帖数: 22187
15
没太明白,他肩膀到了NE就自己好了?

to
play

【在 T*******e 的大作中提到】
: 从来对Marty的行为艺术也很呵呵.
: 也许这次他确实对包包的队医有了疑虑,
: 包包went nuclear, 采取了preemptive measure to clear him out, other than
: being forced to put him on IR. Thus to Marty Packers put money over him.
: 也许又是Marty行为艺术的一次巅峰之作。
: 关于这次他自己这么说(on his instagram),
: "The Packers examined my shoulder March 10 and cleared it,” Bennett wrote
: on an Instagram story on Friday. “They even gave me an x-ray as well. It
: got worse during the season, specifically against the Cowboys so I asked to
: have it checked and we checked it. After a few days of contemplating to play

T*******e
发帖数: 4110
16
感觉Marty是那种有想法有智商的,
他的想法咱们同意不同意两说。
在拍子的去年基本是play with injuries all season.
让人对他的好感增加不少。
Marty也是那种球商很好的队员,
不最壮也不快,总知道什么时候出现在什么位置。
有些像Witten,靠球商多于绝对运动能力那种。
当然Marty和Witten从牛仔时候就是冤家。

【在 C*****E 的大作中提到】
: 我来说几句
: 首先MB quit on team不是一次两次
: 在牛仔在芝加哥都是有名的
: 去年应该是唯一一次没有quit on team
: 他有伤去年也一直被报导
: 体检也很难不被检查出来
: 所以我认为绿湾去年签他的时候took a chance,是知道what they signed up for。
: 吕婉went out of their way to please him (according to lpx, though I
: personally had no idea)
: 估计也是希望他能buy in,不会quit on team。

T*******e
发帖数: 4110
17
看你这样的我都不好意思说自己是包包粉。

【在 l*x 的大作中提到】
: Shame on you for taking his words for full credit. yep, his is a man of
: credibility and integrity. Just pray Tom Brady won't go down.
:
: to
: play

T*******e
发帖数: 4110
18
肯定没有fully healed,
He passed physical.
应该是足够好了。
看他的说法他对包包队医蛮有意见的,
应该是对包包队医有疑虑了。
看怎么发展了,
从拍子而言肯定希望他的肩膀现在足够打比赛,
巨汉绝对需要有人和他share snaps。

【在 s*****o 的大作中提到】
: 没太明白,他肩膀到了NE就自己好了?
:
: to
: play

l*x
发帖数: 14021
19
classic patriots superiority.
su·pe·ri·or·i·ty
noun
noun: superiority
the state of being superior.
"an attempt to establish superiority over others"
I am already not good enough for being a patriots fan because I didn't suck
Tommy's cock hard enough, and now I put shame on the Packers.

【在 T*******e 的大作中提到】
: 看你这样的我都不好意思说自己是包包粉。
T*******e
发帖数: 4110
20
冷静些吧,
本来就是讨论。
那么激烈啥个意思。

suck

【在 l*x 的大作中提到】
: classic patriots superiority.
: su·pe·ri·or·i·ty
: noun
: noun: superiority
: the state of being superior.
: "an attempt to establish superiority over others"
: I am already not good enough for being a patriots fan because I didn't suck
: Tommy's cock hard enough, and now I put shame on the Packers.

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Bennett哥俩都是大嘴巴呀Martellus could be season ending or play through bad cuff.
很可能吉米这个Offseason会被TradeMarty a reception.
Martellus Bennett这个offseason肯定要走了MB上了IR
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l*x
发帖数: 14021
21
Sounds like you have been calm and cast no blame the whole time.


: 冷静些吧,

: 本来就是讨论。

: 那么激烈啥个意思。

: suck



【在 T*******e 的大作中提到】
: 冷静些吧,
: 本来就是讨论。
: 那么激烈啥个意思。
:
: suck

l*x
发帖数: 14021
22
They can justify MB however they want. But just don't throw the 南橘北枳
shit on the Packers. I will defend my team.


: 别他妈给脸不要脸,去看看MB是怎么喷我包的,再去reddit上看看pats球迷给mb
洗地的

: 嘴脸



【在 y****9 的大作中提到】
: 别他妈给脸不要脸,去看看MB是怎么喷我包的,再去reddit上看看pats球迷给mb洗地的
: 嘴脸

k****e
发帖数: 2758
23
版主呢?还不锁了主题

:冷静些吧,
:本来就是讨论。
s*****o
发帖数: 22187
24
别锁吧,好容易有几个人说话。。。

【在 k****e 的大作中提到】
: 版主呢?还不锁了主题
:
: :冷静些吧,
: :本来就是讨论。

l**0
发帖数: 1493
25
从来不喜欢在mitbbs上post,但是今天忍不住。
这个货尼玛在包包说自己有伤,球队逼他比赛,所以他不相信队医,坚持要手术,现在
却可以训练了。这不是自己打脸?
这前后矛盾毫无逻辑的陈述只能说明我包队医诊断没问题,这个货势利眼尼玛一看形势
不对就撂挑子。
另外就这番声明充分显示丫智商欠费。


: 别锁吧,好容易有几个人说话。。。



【在 s*****o 的大作中提到】
: 别锁吧,好容易有几个人说话。。。
T*******e
发帖数: 4110
26
也是,千万别锁,
难道拍饭都有原罪吗
我确实想听听lpx说一说怎么样才能成为他心目中一个合格的拍饭,
拍饭得用什么姿势粉才是好拍饭,

【在 s*****o 的大作中提到】
: 别锁吧,好容易有几个人说话。。。
l*x
发帖数: 14021
27
You tell me first because I am the one got disqualified as a Pats fan.
And I don't care how you being a Pats fan. I am here just to defend the
Packers. That's it. In whatever position you want to be a Pats fan is none
of my business.


: 也是,千万别锁,

: 难道拍饭都有原罪吗

: 我确实想听听lpx说一说怎么样才能成为他心目中一个合格的拍饭,

: 拍饭得用什么姿势粉才是好拍饭,



【在 T*******e 的大作中提到】
: 也是,千万别锁,
: 难道拍饭都有原罪吗
: 我确实想听听lpx说一说怎么样才能成为他心目中一个合格的拍饭,
: 拍饭得用什么姿势粉才是好拍饭,

T*******e
发帖数: 4110
28
理解你的愤懑。
看后续怎么发展了。
我自锁了。

【在 l*x 的大作中提到】
: You tell me first because I am the one got disqualified as a Pats fan.
: And I don't care how you being a Pats fan. I am here just to defend the
: Packers. That's it. In whatever position you want to be a Pats fan is none
: of my business.
:
:
: 也是,千万别锁,
:
: 难道拍饭都有原罪吗
:
: 我确实想听听lpx说一说怎么样才能成为他心目中一个合格的拍饭,
:
: 拍饭得用什么姿势粉才是好拍饭,
:

s*****o
发帖数: 22187
29
拍你的不是大波,大波向来比较平和。
Winning cures everything,对球队,对球员,对球迷都这样。

【在 l*x 的大作中提到】
: You tell me first because I am the one got disqualified as a Pats fan.
: And I don't care how you being a Pats fan. I am here just to defend the
: Packers. That's it. In whatever position you want to be a Pats fan is none
: of my business.
:
:
: 也是,千万别锁,
:
: 难道拍饭都有原罪吗
:
: 我确实想听听lpx说一说怎么样才能成为他心目中一个合格的拍饭,
:
: 拍饭得用什么姿势粉才是好拍饭,
:

l*x
发帖数: 14021
30
我说过多次了,在这里我只是为我的球队辩护,我不是来交朋友的,也不是来科普角球
的。那是以前的我做的事情,反而落了个赶走版主的罪名。Now I am just a troll
against trolls. I have enough of backstabbing from friends I trusted.
人说了饭不同队就是原罪,所以我又何必在这假装做朋友呢?
如果我不反驳,一打比赛,板上又有多少绿湾哨子真好的帖子。我绿湾为何不能有个人
为球队辩护呢?版上其他绿湾粉都是与世无争的和平粉丝。几乎从不吵架。这个架就让
我来吵,反正我的黑帽多一个不算多。


: 拍你的不是大波,大波向来比较平和。

: Winning cures everything,对球队,对球员,对球迷都这样。



【在 s*****o 的大作中提到】
: 拍你的不是大波,大波向来比较平和。
: Winning cures everything,对球队,对球员,对球迷都这样。

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s*****h
发帖数: 44903
31
哈哈 胖熊老兄蛋定

【在 l*x 的大作中提到】
: 我说过多次了,在这里我只是为我的球队辩护,我不是来交朋友的,也不是来科普角球
: 的。那是以前的我做的事情,反而落了个赶走版主的罪名。Now I am just a troll
: against trolls. I have enough of backstabbing from friends I trusted.
: 人说了饭不同队就是原罪,所以我又何必在这假装做朋友呢?
: 如果我不反驳,一打比赛,板上又有多少绿湾哨子真好的帖子。我绿湾为何不能有个人
: 为球队辩护呢?版上其他绿湾粉都是与世无争的和平粉丝。几乎从不吵架。这个架就让
: 我来吵,反正我的黑帽多一个不算多。
:
:
: 拍你的不是大波,大波向来比较平和。
:
: Winning cures everything,对球队,对球员,对球迷都这样。

l*x
发帖数: 14021
32
这么无耻没底线没职业道德的行为,楼主一上来插入的角度就是绿湾耍什么猫腻得罪mb
了。wow just wow。还装无辜的说认真讨论。拍饭们给mb怎么洗地不关我事,你们得了
便宜自己高兴我也不管,但你他妈不能反过来就假设绿湾先玩的猫腻。
今天连九弟姜昆这俩最最老实忠诚的球员都出来为队医说话了。绿湾队医麦肯锡是圈里
非常有名的医生,声誉一流。mb这算是有屎以来第一个污蔑人职业操守的人。轮不到拍
子的外人指手画脚的假设什么阴谋。难道是我们玉米的农民太过于淳朴了。老实人被骗
了,反被反咬一口。


: 哈哈 胖熊老兄蛋定



【在 s*****h 的大作中提到】
: 哈哈 胖熊老兄蛋定
s*****h
发帖数: 44903
33
MB还在拍子的时候我就烦这货
各种讨嫌
=====
发信人: sunfish (sunfish), 信区: Football
标 题: Re: Martellus Bennett got cut by Packers.
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Nov 9 09:51:49 2017, 美东)
俺最讨厌的NFL球员之一

mb

【在 l*x 的大作中提到】
: 这么无耻没底线没职业道德的行为,楼主一上来插入的角度就是绿湾耍什么猫腻得罪mb
: 了。wow just wow。还装无辜的说认真讨论。拍饭们给mb怎么洗地不关我事,你们得了
: 便宜自己高兴我也不管,但你他妈不能反过来就假设绿湾先玩的猫腻。
: 今天连九弟姜昆这俩最最老实忠诚的球员都出来为队医说话了。绿湾队医麦肯锡是圈里
: 非常有名的医生,声誉一流。mb这算是有屎以来第一个污蔑人职业操守的人。轮不到拍
: 子的外人指手画脚的假设什么阴谋。难道是我们玉米的农民太过于淳朴了。老实人被骗
: 了,反被反咬一口。
:
:
: 哈哈 胖熊老兄蛋定
:

C*****E
发帖数: 2679
34
今天急着去一个veterans day reception,想不到回来这么大风波。
首先我原帖就开宗明义,bennett有commitment issues,经常quit on team。In case
i wasnt clear, let me repeat, loud and clear, bennett有commitment issues。他
这方面的历史毋庸置疑,只能同甘苦,不能共患难。我现实生活中绝对不和这种人交朋
友。我原帖写了,可能不清楚,这里再重复一次。胖熊满意了吗?
胖熊看球比我多,有几个问题有劳胖熊回答,真心请教
(A) 他quit on team的历史记录全联盟都知道,连我这个球盲都知道。放个狗,
wikipedia上到处都是。您觉得他的职业到德问题,绿碗签约前知道不知道?如果知道
,我说的took a chance and knew what they signed up for,有没有道理?
(B) 绿碗作为一支职业橄榄球队,赢球是任务,如果确实按您所说went out of the
way对一个新来的FA那么好,您觉得,有没有哪怕一丁点的希望,是他会知恩图报,对
球队更commit?那我说的,有没有不妥?
(C) 如果您觉得完全没有,而是像您所说,完全发自内心,像对家人一样,毫无条件
,不求回报,那么当他想为自己身体做手术的时候,难道不应该100%地支持,祝他早日
康复?
(D) 您一直说不能100%信他,这我完全同意。我对绿湾的讲法,也有疑问,希望解惑
。绿湾是waived for failure to disclose injury。但是卖胖刚刚被问到MB的情况,
卖胖
说"The last medical conversation I was involved with in regards to Marty was
talking about scheduling surgery." 看起来绿湾是知道伤情的。MB的伤势去年是有
广泛报道的,赛季初签约,也是有体检的。胖熊刚刚还说,队医水平很高,很有声誉。
那到底failed to disclose了什么?
in case胖熊有需要,我再骂一次,bennett有commitment issues,经常quit on team
,只能同甘苦,不能共患难。
但是以上ABCD四个问题,还是希望胖熊解惑。

share
to
would

【在 l*x 的大作中提到】
: Now that's the inside story ThetaWave was looking for. Why didn't you share
: it inside the wechat group in the first place.
: MB had serious integrity issue and lack of professionalism. However you
: slice it. but you happily explained it away, and turned the blame around to
: the victim, claiming we took a chance and we deserved it. Where are the
: common sense? Where are the moral standard? Because it works for your
: Patriots???????
: We treated him like a family, so we supported him and loved him. Simple as
: that. And that translated into "we bent backward to pleased him so he would
: buy in and won't quit". I think being in Wisconsin, I am too naive and

f**********i
发帖数: 45
35
(A)Commitment issue is one thing, threatening team and lying is another.
There is always a threshold how far you can go and we can not equalize one
commitment issue with every other.
(B)The team may or may not have objectives of nurturing commitment from the
player, but in both cases there is nothing wrong from the team perspective.
(C)Let's be realistic and admit that they are never a family. However what
is at stake and at question is professionalism of the player which is
irrelevant to any "family" discussion.
(D)The player does have injury but he is lying about the doctor forcing him
to play. We can not only take one piece out of the whole picture and confuse
the topic.
All in all there is no excuse for the player considering the events we have
seen. Regarding the team it definitely takes risk and loses the bet, but
still it doesn't mean it is not a victim. Again having injury or commitment
issue is one thing, threatening to retire and lying to the public is another
. Someone walking in deserted area at night is at risk, but still if he gets
attacked he is still a victim, no less.

case
the

【在 C*****E 的大作中提到】
: 今天急着去一个veterans day reception,想不到回来这么大风波。
: 首先我原帖就开宗明义,bennett有commitment issues,经常quit on team。In case
: i wasnt clear, let me repeat, loud and clear, bennett有commitment issues。他
: 这方面的历史毋庸置疑,只能同甘苦,不能共患难。我现实生活中绝对不和这种人交朋
: 友。我原帖写了,可能不清楚,这里再重复一次。胖熊满意了吗?
: 胖熊看球比我多,有几个问题有劳胖熊回答,真心请教
: (A) 他quit on team的历史记录全联盟都知道,连我这个球盲都知道。放个狗,
: wikipedia上到处都是。您觉得他的职业到德问题,绿碗签约前知道不知道?如果知道
: ,我说的took a chance and knew what they signed up for,有没有道理?
: (B) 绿碗作为一支职业橄榄球队,赢球是任务,如果确实按您所说went out of the

l*x
发帖数: 14021
36
多谢帮我解答。我阅读理解能力有限。债主这么大一篇我都没看明白要证明什么?证明
mb无辜人品好?I don't care。证明绿湾先错在先,阴谋陷害mb?why do they care?
是为了说明mb无辜人品好?关于这件事我只是为绿湾辩护,我知道的,我要说的已经全
说了。他们要是不同意,那再说也无益。Claim victory as they want. I stand
behind my Packers, and they can stand behind their MB.
好像明白了,是想说绿湾损失了也是活该,愿赌服输。如果是这样的话,这就无解了。
因为大家多道德标准的要求和假设好像不一样。就像一个老实人跟一个聪明的商人做买
卖赔钱了。在这个国家,会认为老实人真笨活该。在另外一个国家,可能大家会谴责这
个商人。。


: (A)Commitment issue is one thing, threatening team and lying is
another.

: There is always a threshold how far you can go and we can not
equalize
one

: commitment issue with every other.

: (B)The team may or may not have objectives of nurturing
commitment
from the

: player, but in both cases there is nothing wrong from the team
perspective.

: (C)Let's be realistic and admit that they are never a family.
However
what

: is at stake and at question is professionalism of the player
which is

: irrelevant to any "family" discussion.

: (D)The player does have injury but he is lying about the doctor
forcing him

: to play. We can not only take one piece out of the whole picture
and
confuse



【在 f**********i 的大作中提到】
: (A)Commitment issue is one thing, threatening team and lying is another.
: There is always a threshold how far you can go and we can not equalize one
: commitment issue with every other.
: (B)The team may or may not have objectives of nurturing commitment from the
: player, but in both cases there is nothing wrong from the team perspective.
: (C)Let's be realistic and admit that they are never a family. However what
: is at stake and at question is professionalism of the player which is
: irrelevant to any "family" discussion.
: (D)The player does have injury but he is lying about the doctor forcing him
: to play. We can not only take one piece out of the whole picture and confuse

C*****E
发帖数: 2679
37
我没证明什么,我就不明白,你为什么被我说的话冒犯。一张嘴巴就仿佛我怎么欺负你
似的。我该踩MB也都踩了。重复几遍了,够不够?您的朋友还在回避问题,那我在问一
下您吧
A 我说的took a chance and knew what they signed up for,有没有道理?您为啥被
冒犯
B went out of their way to exchange for more commitment, which didn't work
out,有没有道理?您为啥被冒犯?
C 同B
D MB不可信,第N次重复。绿湾这边的waived for failure to disclose injury的故事
,也没那么清楚明了,是吧?
in case还不够,我再踩第N+1次,MB职业到德有问题,只能同甘苦,不能共患难?够没
有?

equalize

【在 l*x 的大作中提到】
: 多谢帮我解答。我阅读理解能力有限。债主这么大一篇我都没看明白要证明什么?证明
: mb无辜人品好?I don't care。证明绿湾先错在先,阴谋陷害mb?why do they care?
: 是为了说明mb无辜人品好?关于这件事我只是为绿湾辩护,我知道的,我要说的已经全
: 说了。他们要是不同意,那再说也无益。Claim victory as they want. I stand
: behind my Packers, and they can stand behind their MB.
: 好像明白了,是想说绿湾损失了也是活该,愿赌服输。如果是这样的话,这就无解了。
: 因为大家多道德标准的要求和假设好像不一样。就像一个老实人跟一个聪明的商人做买
: 卖赔钱了。在这个国家,会认为老实人真笨活该。在另外一个国家,可能大家会谴责这
: 个商人。。
:

T*******e
发帖数: 4110
38
包包要百年的球队
那么多年reputation
需要你来辩护
就是想明白怎么回事
觉得这事透着奇怪
Marty有bad rep不假
这是在test new bottom
只是想了解一下怎么回事
也无意给他辩护
拍粉也捏着把汗
可能还是水漂啊水漂
看你这么愤懑
咱也不想那么认真
本来都自锁了
你还喷来喷去
你喷错方向了
也喷得无厘头
苦大仇深
有意思吗

mb

【在 l*x 的大作中提到】
: 这么无耻没底线没职业道德的行为,楼主一上来插入的角度就是绿湾耍什么猫腻得罪mb
: 了。wow just wow。还装无辜的说认真讨论。拍饭们给mb怎么洗地不关我事,你们得了
: 便宜自己高兴我也不管,但你他妈不能反过来就假设绿湾先玩的猫腻。
: 今天连九弟姜昆这俩最最老实忠诚的球员都出来为队医说话了。绿湾队医麦肯锡是圈里
: 非常有名的医生,声誉一流。mb这算是有屎以来第一个污蔑人职业操守的人。轮不到拍
: 子的外人指手画脚的假设什么阴谋。难道是我们玉米的农民太过于淳朴了。老实人被骗
: 了,反被反咬一口。
:
:
: 哈哈 胖熊老兄蛋定
:

l*x
发帖数: 14021
39
我就一块回了。你看看楼主这段话。
Marty是行为艺术家不假。但现在重温这件事,感觉包包作了啥,让Marty这样的行为艺
术家受不了了, 以这样的方式离开包包。
我帮你改改
够戴尔是行为艺术家不假。但现在重温这件事,感觉堂哥作了啥,让够戴尔这样的行为
艺术家受不了了, 罚堂哥停赛4场。
OK!
C*****E
发帖数: 2679
40
哈哈,还是在逃避我的问题。sure
万一你还没看出来,我回答了thetawave的问题。我的答案跟你的答案一模一样:MB
QUIT THE TEAM。
然后不知道怎么你被我的回答严重地冒犯了。还狠狠地攻击我。我现在还想知道为什么。

【在 l*x 的大作中提到】
: 我就一块回了。你看看楼主这段话。
: Marty是行为艺术家不假。但现在重温这件事,感觉包包作了啥,让Marty这样的行为艺
: 术家受不了了, 以这样的方式离开包包。
: 我帮你改改
: 够戴尔是行为艺术家不假。但现在重温这件事,感觉堂哥作了啥,让够戴尔这样的行为
: 艺术家受不了了, 罚堂哥停赛4场。
: OK!

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f**********i
发帖数: 45
41
It doesn't matter whether you blame the personality of the involved player
or not--after all what's being questioned is never what kind of person he
has
been or he is, but that on this specific event, whether he is at fault. Even
if the player has been a perfect citizen, he is at fault on this dispute.
It doesn't matter whether risk is taken or not. Again if a person walks at
night in dangerous area and gets attacked, you cannot say OK you know the
attacker and you blame him / her, but by walking at night in dangerous area
the victim is to be blamed too. This is distorting the argument on the
specific topic by trading off blames on personality. Rather than blaming the
personality, it is only fair to admit that the team is really a victim here.

【在 C*****E 的大作中提到】
: 我没证明什么,我就不明白,你为什么被我说的话冒犯。一张嘴巴就仿佛我怎么欺负你
: 似的。我该踩MB也都踩了。重复几遍了,够不够?您的朋友还在回避问题,那我在问一
: 下您吧
: A 我说的took a chance and knew what they signed up for,有没有道理?您为啥被
: 冒犯
: B went out of their way to exchange for more commitment, which didn't work
: out,有没有道理?您为啥被冒犯?
: C 同B
: D MB不可信,第N次重复。绿湾这边的waived for failure to disclose injury的故事
: ,也没那么清楚明了,是吧?

c******n
发帖数: 7263
42
这里还能说话的都一把年纪了,还没看透网络么?要把人说服是不太可能的,最后无一
不是咬文嚼字硬拗
Maybe I am just not that into this game.

【在 l*x 的大作中提到】
: 我说过多次了,在这里我只是为我的球队辩护,我不是来交朋友的,也不是来科普角球
: 的。那是以前的我做的事情,反而落了个赶走版主的罪名。Now I am just a troll
: against trolls. I have enough of backstabbing from friends I trusted.
: 人说了饭不同队就是原罪,所以我又何必在这假装做朋友呢?
: 如果我不反驳,一打比赛,板上又有多少绿湾哨子真好的帖子。我绿湾为何不能有个人
: 为球队辩护呢?版上其他绿湾粉都是与世无争的和平粉丝。几乎从不吵架。这个架就让
: 我来吵,反正我的黑帽多一个不算多。
:
:
: 拍你的不是大波,大波向来比较平和。
:
: Winning cures everything,对球队,对球员,对球迷都这样。

l*x
发帖数: 14021
43
多谢劝告。我也多次说过我的初衷。经过几年前那番吵架。我明白了狗咬人是正常的,
人反过来跟狗理论,那是人的错,是滋生事非给版务惹麻烦逼版主下台的勾当。所以我
觉得不如做条狗,被咬了可以反咬,不用连累版务。我并不想说服任何人。我只是对攻
击污蔑可以反击
咬一口。所以我其实就是吵架的。不是讲理的。
如果龟总没在绿湾群里跟我发飙限制我发言的自由,扬言把绿湾群改为体育聊天群。如
果绿湾群里我说的话不马上被邀请进来的“朋友”转到别的群里作为攻击我
的证据。我一定会留在群里安静的谈球。


: 这里还能说话的都一把年纪了,还没看透网络么?要把人说服是不太可能
的,最
后无一

: 不是咬文嚼字硬拗

: Maybe I am just not that into this game.



【在 c******n 的大作中提到】
: 这里还能说话的都一把年纪了,还没看透网络么?要把人说服是不太可能的,最后无一
: 不是咬文嚼字硬拗
: Maybe I am just not that into this game.

l*x
发帖数: 14021
44
MB quit the team
感觉包包作了啥,让Marty这样的行为艺术家受不了了, 以这样的方式离开包包。
够戴尔罚了堂哥四场
感觉堂哥作了啥,让够戴尔罚了堂哥停赛4场。
我的中文不好,误解了请原谅。


: 哈哈,还是在逃避我的问题。sure

: 万一你还没看出来,我回答了thetawave的问题。我的答案跟你的答案一模一样:
MB

: QUIT THE TEAM。

: 然后不知道怎么你被我的回答严重地冒犯了。还狠狠地攻击我。我现在还想知道
为什么。



【在 C*****E 的大作中提到】
: 哈哈,还是在逃避我的问题。sure
: 万一你还没看出来,我回答了thetawave的问题。我的答案跟你的答案一模一样:MB
: QUIT THE TEAM。
: 然后不知道怎么你被我的回答严重地冒犯了。还狠狠地攻击我。我现在还想知道为什么。

w***1
发帖数: 1951
45
都别吵了,各位老ID。我只想弱弱的问一句,我包当初是为啥放了Jared Cook走,捡了
个这么个MB回来的?
谁给科普一下?
C*****E
发帖数: 2679
46
现在回头看,当然是赌错了,看走眼了。每个球队都会选错人,不可能有谁看人100%地
准确。你要现在重头开始,肯定签cook不签他。就像你要时光倒流五年我肯定全仓
netflix一样。但是时光不能倒流,谁也不能未卜先知,都得做个选择赌一边,是不是。
MB也算是有天赋的人。几乎在每只球队都有drama,一直还有球队愿意take a chance
on him。去年数据也比cook好,绿湾就赌了一把他。

【在 w***1 的大作中提到】
: 都别吵了,各位老ID。我只想弱弱的问一句,我包当初是为啥放了Jared Cook走,捡了
: 个这么个MB回来的?
: 谁给科普一下?

c******n
发帖数: 7263
47
是先签了mb,cook后签了雷达
底下的事情外面不知道,有可能tt觉得mb更好,也有可能cook要价太高。虽然之后cook
的合同还不如mb。

【在 w***1 的大作中提到】
: 都别吵了,各位老ID。我只想弱弱的问一句,我包当初是为啥放了Jared Cook走,捡了
: 个这么个MB回来的?
: 谁给科普一下?

c******n
发帖数: 7263
48
要给别人说话的权利,说是一回事,怎么做是另外一回事,绿湾微信群怎么都是包饭话
事的

【在 l*x 的大作中提到】
: 多谢劝告。我也多次说过我的初衷。经过几年前那番吵架。我明白了狗咬人是正常的,
: 人反过来跟狗理论,那是人的错,是滋生事非给版务惹麻烦逼版主下台的勾当。所以我
: 觉得不如做条狗,被咬了可以反咬,不用连累版务。我并不想说服任何人。我只是对攻
: 击污蔑可以反击
: 咬一口。所以我其实就是吵架的。不是讲理的。
: 如果龟总没在绿湾群里跟我发飙限制我发言的自由,扬言把绿湾群改为体育聊天群。如
: 果绿湾群里我说的话不马上被邀请进来的“朋友”转到别的群里作为攻击我
: 的证据。我一定会留在群里安静的谈球。
:
:
: 这里还能说话的都一把年纪了,还没看透网络么?要把人说服是不太可能

s*****h
发帖数: 44903
49
最后Cook合同居然不如MB
绿湾太土了吧
虽然Cook毛病不少 但是还是比签MB靠谱

【在 c******n 的大作中提到】
: 是先签了mb,cook后签了雷达
: 底下的事情外面不知道,有可能tt觉得mb更好,也有可能cook要价太高。虽然之后cook
: 的合同还不如mb。

s*****h
发帖数: 44903
50
胖熊老兄也算我校友
斗胆劝师兄一句
有时候老兄应该学学橡树呀
哈哈

【在 l*x 的大作中提到】
: 多谢劝告。我也多次说过我的初衷。经过几年前那番吵架。我明白了狗咬人是正常的,
: 人反过来跟狗理论,那是人的错,是滋生事非给版务惹麻烦逼版主下台的勾当。所以我
: 觉得不如做条狗,被咬了可以反咬,不用连累版务。我并不想说服任何人。我只是对攻
: 击污蔑可以反击
: 咬一口。所以我其实就是吵架的。不是讲理的。
: 如果龟总没在绿湾群里跟我发飙限制我发言的自由,扬言把绿湾群改为体育聊天群。如
: 果绿湾群里我说的话不马上被邀请进来的“朋友”转到别的群里作为攻击我
: 的证据。我一定会留在群里安静的谈球。
:
:
: 这里还能说话的都一把年纪了,还没看透网络么?要把人说服是不太可能

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h**********e
发帖数: 3
51
MB 人品有问题。 在芝加哥开始很好。后来麻烦就来了。很没品。
H**********i
发帖数: 1261
52
看了一圈好像没有人挺MB啊 都是踩的
那我也来踩一脚 这货之前在我熊也是各种行艺 所以他至少在本版应该是过街老鼠了吧
这不就得了 再吵别的也就是大家互相抬杠了 嘛
话说明天熊包rival战 包饭们不来怼我熊 反而这么多精力怼拍子 我觉得这说明了一点
就是我熊实在是太烂了。。不值得一怼 啊哈哈-v-
w***1
发帖数: 1951
53
Cook今年在雷达表现亮眼多了

【在 s*****h 的大作中提到】
: 最后Cook合同居然不如MB
: 绿湾太土了吧
: 虽然Cook毛病不少 但是还是比签MB靠谱

w***1
发帖数: 1951
54
不是你熊太烂,是大家都知道我包怼不过,连LV赌场都开让5.5了,我等包饭估计明天
就当吃瓜群众看个热闹罢了

【在 H**********i 的大作中提到】
: 看了一圈好像没有人挺MB啊 都是踩的
: 那我也来踩一脚 这货之前在我熊也是各种行艺 所以他至少在本版应该是过街老鼠了吧
: 这不就得了 再吵别的也就是大家互相抬杠了 嘛
: 话说明天熊包rival战 包饭们不来怼我熊 反而这么多精力怼拍子 我觉得这说明了一点
: 就是我熊实在是太烂了。。不值得一怼 啊哈哈-v-

w***1
发帖数: 1951
55
时光倒流五年,我想全仓NVDA...

是。

【在 C*****E 的大作中提到】
: 现在回头看,当然是赌错了,看走眼了。每个球队都会选错人,不可能有谁看人100%地
: 准确。你要现在重头开始,肯定签cook不签他。就像你要时光倒流五年我肯定全仓
: netflix一样。但是时光不能倒流,谁也不能未卜先知,都得做个选择赌一边,是不是。
: MB也算是有天赋的人。几乎在每只球队都有drama,一直还有球队愿意take a chance
: on him。去年数据也比cook好,绿湾就赌了一把他。

c******n
发帖数: 7263
56
包熊rival还是搞基成分居多。俺去的两次soldier field看到结伴去看球的很多都是包
熊一起

【在 H**********i 的大作中提到】
: 看了一圈好像没有人挺MB啊 都是踩的
: 那我也来踩一脚 这货之前在我熊也是各种行艺 所以他至少在本版应该是过街老鼠了吧
: 这不就得了 再吵别的也就是大家互相抬杠了 嘛
: 话说明天熊包rival战 包饭们不来怼我熊 反而这么多精力怼拍子 我觉得这说明了一点
: 就是我熊实在是太烂了。。不值得一怼 啊哈哈-v-

M******k
发帖数: 27573
57
主板说他如果做了手术上IR,绿湾就要付他明年roster bonus等计二百余万元这个是不
是真的
T*******e
发帖数: 4110
58
应该不会。考虑到Marty传言retire after the season. 包包可以在roster bonus之前
release Marty。Having Marty on IR only means less than 500K more salary for
Packers. Pats assumed his remaining contract and can walk away from Marty as
well with no obligation in 2018 and 2019 as no more fully guarantee.

【在 M******k 的大作中提到】
: 主板说他如果做了手术上IR,绿湾就要付他明年roster bonus等计二百余万元这个是不
: 是真的

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