c******n 发帖数: 7263 | 1 Bill Belichick: Defensive players need to understand the reason they don't
play offense is they're not good enough |
J**e 发帖数: 15008 | 2 这话反过来说也一样
【在 c******n 的大作中提到】 : Bill Belichick: Defensive players need to understand the reason they don't : play offense is they're not good enough
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s*****o 发帖数: 22187 | 3 不知道什么背景,单拿出来看这句,我觉得算行医
【在 c******n 的大作中提到】 : Bill Belichick: Defensive players need to understand the reason they don't : play offense is they're not good enough
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s*****h 发帖数: 44903 | 4
Coach Belichick was very talkative during his presser this morning (12/28/16
), providing extensive discussion regarding the difficulty of playing the
Fullback position in the NFL, and sarcastically providing this nugget: "I
think most defensive players need to understand that the reason they don't
play offense is because they aren't good enough to play offense"
【在 s*****o 的大作中提到】 : 不知道什么背景,单拿出来看这句,我觉得算行医
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s*****h 发帖数: 44903 | 5 [–]ColtsSimpleton216 864 points 10 hours ago
Defensive backs are WRs who can't catch.
Old NFL proverb.
然后就开始讨论老鹰的黄油手Agholor是否可以转成打CB 很有喜感。。。
【在 c******n 的大作中提到】 : Bill Belichick: Defensive players need to understand the reason they don't : play offense is they're not good enough
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s*****h 发帖数: 44903 | 6 乌鸦的那个FB确实牛
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【在 s*****h 的大作中提到】 : [–]ColtsSimpleton216 864 points 10 hours ago : Defensive backs are WRs who can't catch. : Old NFL proverb. : 然后就开始讨论老鹰的黄油手Agholor是否可以转成打CB 很有喜感。。。
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s*****h 发帖数: 44903 | 7 CB和WR是不是O/D switch可能性最大的position
OL/DL的胖子们呢?
比如海鸟的OL排名32
能否关键时刻找个DL的胖子应急?
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[–]Giantsdonniedarkoo 59 points 10 hours ago
The "Defensive backs are WRs who can't catch" I don't think is true at all -
there's a lot fewer quality DBs than WRs. E.g. it's easier to be average at
wide receiver than cornerback.
【在 s*****h 的大作中提到】 : [–]ColtsSimpleton216 864 points 10 hours ago : Defensive backs are WRs who can't catch. : Old NFL proverb. : 然后就开始讨论老鹰的黄油手Agholor是否可以转成打CB 很有喜感。。。
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s*****o 发帖数: 22187 | 8 这是帮快绝迹的FB说话,可以理解,不算行医
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【在 s*****h 的大作中提到】 : CB和WR是不是O/D switch可能性最大的position : OL/DL的胖子们呢? : 比如海鸟的OL排名32 : 能否关键时刻找个DL的胖子应急? : ==== : [–]Giantsdonniedarkoo 59 points 10 hours ago : The "Defensive backs are WRs who can't catch" I don't think is true at all - : there's a lot fewer quality DBs than WRs. E.g. it's easier to be average at : wide receiver than cornerback.
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s*****o 发帖数: 22187 | 9 昨天他们讨论海鸟OL不是提到了那个JR Sweezy DE to OG.
牛仔的JJ Wilcox是WR to Safety
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at
【在 s*****h 的大作中提到】 : CB和WR是不是O/D switch可能性最大的position : OL/DL的胖子们呢? : 比如海鸟的OL排名32 : 能否关键时刻找个DL的胖子应急? : ==== : [–]Giantsdonniedarkoo 59 points 10 hours ago : The "Defensive backs are WRs who can't catch" I don't think is true at all - : there's a lot fewer quality DBs than WRs. E.g. it's easier to be average at : wide receiver than cornerback.
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s*****o 发帖数: 22187 | 11 说CB比WR简单就是开玩笑,我个人觉得CB是除QB之外最难的
【在 T***u 的大作中提到】 : WR不一定会backpedal吧
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c******n 发帖数: 7263 | 12 还有qb转为wr也不少
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【在 s*****h 的大作中提到】 : CB和WR是不是O/D switch可能性最大的position : OL/DL的胖子们呢? : 比如海鸟的OL排名32 : 能否关键时刻找个DL的胖子应急? : ==== : [–]Giantsdonniedarkoo 59 points 10 hours ago : The "Defensive backs are WRs who can't catch" I don't think is true at all - : there's a lot fewer quality DBs than WRs. E.g. it's easier to be average at : wide receiver than cornerback.
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b*********h 发帖数: 1001 | 13 小鸡认为TE是除QB之外最难的
Belichick continued by explaining the reasoning behind moving some offensive
players to defense
Offensively, you move them because you have other guys that can catch the
ball better, or are more elusive runners, or are more productive playmakers,
so then they move. Sometimes some guys find their spots right away and they
stay in them.
这段感觉就是在暗示CB不如WR。
【在 s*****o 的大作中提到】 : 说CB比WR简单就是开玩笑,我个人觉得CB是除QB之外最难的
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b*********h 发帖数: 1001 | 14 关于胖子,小鸡说了这段话
Most of the offensive linemen get moved from defense because they don't run
well enough," he added. "If they ran better, they'd probably play on defense
, because those guys are hard to find. So to see those players offensively
that can run 4.9, 5-flat at those kind of weights, most of them are first or
second-round left tackles. That's where most of them show up. That's a
premium position on offense. If you have that kind of an athlete, you
probably could play them on defense or you could play them at left tackle.
That's where they go. So do they get moved? I don't think you move a
defensive lineman to the offensive line unless you're going to move them to
left tackle or, again, you have so many defensive linemen that you can
afford to move him. Usually you move them because they don't run well enough
."
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【在 s*****h 的大作中提到】 : CB和WR是不是O/D switch可能性最大的position : OL/DL的胖子们呢? : 比如海鸟的OL排名32 : 能否关键时刻找个DL的胖子应急? : ==== : [–]Giantsdonniedarkoo 59 points 10 hours ago : The "Defensive backs are WRs who can't catch" I don't think is true at all - : there's a lot fewer quality DBs than WRs. E.g. it's easier to be average at : wide receiver than cornerback.
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t******y 发帖数: 1616 | 15 难道不是MLB?
【在 s*****o 的大作中提到】 : 说CB比WR简单就是开玩笑,我个人觉得CB是除QB之外最难的
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s*****o 发帖数: 22187 | 16 我觉得不是,MLB感觉是技术上要求比较低的一个位置,我的防守位置技术难度排名:
CB, S, DE, LB, DT
【在 t******y 的大作中提到】 : 难道不是MLB?
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s*****o 发帖数: 22187 | 17 我没觉得他说CB简单,只是说WR更受重视。比如让一个raw talent选踢足球还是打篮球
,他肯定选篮球,不说明足球简单吧
offensive
playmakers,
they
【在 b*********h 的大作中提到】 : 小鸡认为TE是除QB之外最难的 : Belichick continued by explaining the reasoning behind moving some offensive : players to defense : Offensively, you move them because you have other guys that can catch the : ball better, or are more elusive runners, or are more productive playmakers, : so then they move. Sometimes some guys find their spots right away and they : stay in them. : 这段感觉就是在暗示CB不如WR。
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b**l 发帖数: 33123 | 18 嗯,我也觉得这个位置主要靠身体素质,难度可能还不如DT
【在 s*****o 的大作中提到】 : 我觉得不是,MLB感觉是技术上要求比较低的一个位置,我的防守位置技术难度排名: : CB, S, DE, LB, DT
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t******y 发帖数: 1616 | 19 球商要高啊,预判/反应要快
在一定层面上还要带全队的防守
【在 s*****o 的大作中提到】 : 我觉得不是,MLB感觉是技术上要求比较低的一个位置,我的防守位置技术难度排名: : CB, S, DE, LB, DT
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s*****o 发帖数: 22187 | 20 你说这些都不算技术层面吧
【在 t******y 的大作中提到】 : 球商要高啊,预判/反应要快 : 在一定层面上还要带全队的防守
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p******s 发帖数: 5200 | 21 判断,应该是吧。换成英文,就是读比赛啊
【在 s*****o 的大作中提到】 : 你说这些都不算技术层面吧
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s*****o 发帖数: 22187 | 22 这个要算那MLB肯定排名前列,不过我觉得不算技术层面,算intangible.
【在 p******s 的大作中提到】 : 判断,应该是吧。换成英文,就是读比赛啊
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T***u 发帖数: 1468 | 23 Intangible是leadership, poise, work ethics这些,各种运动通用的 |
U*S 发帖数: 4914 | 24 除QB之外最难的应该是MLB吧。
【在 s*****o 的大作中提到】 : 说CB比WR简单就是开玩笑,我个人觉得CB是除QB之外最难的
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l*x 发帖数: 14021 | 25 我可以举两个很好的wr打不了cb。一个是高大威威震天,因为他不会变向转身,外接一
变向他就跟不上了。另一个是小快灵tylor lockett。速度变向都很牛,但是身材太矮
,很容易被外接生吃。
蛇人其实象威震天,身高体长,但变向和速度都不是特快。不是传统cb的模子,所以选
秀掉到后面。但是皮卡把他用活了。关键是后面的ET3的range很大,前面的线卫Wagner
和wright的range也很大,这样就把他要防守的空间挤压了,充分发挥他身高臂长的优
势,加上脑袋好使,判断准确,经常反应变向比外接还早。现在ET3不在了,over the
top的空间可能就大了,遇上速度快的wr,球就可以扔远一些,这样蛇人速度可能就跟
不上了。如果威震天代替蛇人在海鹰打cb,说不定还真能打出下蛋角来。光站在那就是
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t******y 发帖数: 1616 | 26 学习了
Wagner
the
【在 l*x 的大作中提到】 : 我可以举两个很好的wr打不了cb。一个是高大威威震天,因为他不会变向转身,外接一 : 变向他就跟不上了。另一个是小快灵tylor lockett。速度变向都很牛,但是身材太矮 : ,很容易被外接生吃。 : 蛇人其实象威震天,身高体长,但变向和速度都不是特快。不是传统cb的模子,所以选 : 秀掉到后面。但是皮卡把他用活了。关键是后面的ET3的range很大,前面的线卫Wagner : 和wright的range也很大,这样就把他要防守的空间挤压了,充分发挥他身高臂长的优 : 势,加上脑袋好使,判断准确,经常反应变向比外接还早。现在ET3不在了,over the : top的空间可能就大了,遇上速度快的wr,球就可以扔远一些,这样蛇人速度可能就跟 : 不上了。如果威震天代替蛇人在海鹰打cb,说不定还真能打出下蛋角来。光站在那就是 : 一个大巴到range。
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C*****E 发帖数: 2679 | 27 小鸡指的是高中期间 这个算是合理
【在 c******n 的大作中提到】 : Bill Belichick: Defensive players need to understand the reason they don't : play offense is they're not good enough
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s*****o 发帖数: 22187 | 28 我觉得凡是combine看不出来的都算intangible,读进攻防守应该看不出来
【在 T***u 的大作中提到】 : Intangible是leadership, poise, work ethics这些,各种运动通用的
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k****e 发帖数: 2758 | 29 http://www.espn.com/blog/seattle-seahawks/post/_/id/23896/earl-thomas-absence-becoming-a-bigger-issue-for-seahawks
time to short
Wagner
the
【在 l*x 的大作中提到】 : 我可以举两个很好的wr打不了cb。一个是高大威威震天,因为他不会变向转身,外接一 : 变向他就跟不上了。另一个是小快灵tylor lockett。速度变向都很牛,但是身材太矮 : ,很容易被外接生吃。 : 蛇人其实象威震天,身高体长,但变向和速度都不是特快。不是传统cb的模子,所以选 : 秀掉到后面。但是皮卡把他用活了。关键是后面的ET3的range很大,前面的线卫Wagner : 和wright的range也很大,这样就把他要防守的空间挤压了,充分发挥他身高臂长的优 : 势,加上脑袋好使,判断准确,经常反应变向比外接还早。现在ET3不在了,over the : top的空间可能就大了,遇上速度快的wr,球就可以扔远一些,这样蛇人速度可能就跟 : 不上了。如果威震天代替蛇人在海鹰打cb,说不定还真能打出下蛋角来。光站在那就是 : 一个大巴到range。
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