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e******u
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San Francisco has some potentially serious problems with its star coach
after reports surfaced about the uneasiness by the bay.
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The San Francisco 49ers hired head coach Jim Harbaugh three years ago, who
took over a team that had not been to an NFC Championship game since 1996.
Under Harbaugh, the 49ers have at least been to the NFC title game all three
seasons, including a Super Bowl appearance in 2013.
However, that might not be enough to keep the two sides together for very
long, according to Jason La Canfora of CBS. Harbaugh and general manager
Trent Baalke are "barely speaking," according to La Canfora, and there are
reportedly many clashes between Harbaugh and others within the organization,
including team president Paraag Marathe.
La Canfora also says that should Harbaugh be jettisoned either by trade or
an unthinkable release, the 49ers would likely promote defensive line coach
Jim Tomsula. The notion of San Francisco and Harbaugh having problems arose
with the news of the 49ers and Cleveland Browns having talks about a trade
which would have centered around sending Harbaugh to the banks of Lake Erie.
How did things unravel to this point? Here's a timeline of the drama:
Friday, 4:28 p.m.: Mike Florio of Pro Football Talk reported that the Browns
had been in trade discussions for Harbaugh, hoping to fill their head
coaching vacancy with the former quarterback. The deal was killed by
Harbaugh, who did not want to leave for Cleveland.
Supposedly, the trade would have involved the Browns sending multiple picks
to San Francisco.
Friday: 5:21 p.m.: Jon Stinchcomb of Dawgs By Nature compiled a bevy of
tweets that Joe Lull of 92.3 The Fan in Cleveland fired off as the news was
breaking from Florio about Harbaugh and the Browns.
Lull had previously reported that all the candidates for the Browns' head
coaching job had not been brought to light. At the time, he wasn't willing
to disclose who the man was, per Chris Pokorny of Dawgs By Nature.
Friday night/Saturday morning: Ian Rapoport of NFL.com refutes the claim
that San Francisco discussed trading Harbaugh to the Browns.
Friday, 6:12 p.m.: 49ers owner Jed York tells his side of the story.
Saturday, 11:39 a.m.: Browns head coach Mike Pettine talks about his
feelings at the NFL Combine on the report that his new team hired him as a
consolation prize, per Mary Kay Cabot of the Cleveland Plain Dealer.
"I got a phone call saying that report was about to come out and I shot the
messenger a little bit,'' Pettine said at the NFL Scouting Combine. "I asked
, ‘How does that affect my tenure as the head coach? Has that changed?' The
obvious answer was 'no' and I think my next sentence, I either used the
word flying followed by something, or referenced a part of a rat’s body.''
Saturday, 11:20 p.m.: Vic Tafur of the San Francisco Chronicle caught up
with Harbaugh in Indianapolis and got the following quote from the 49ers
leader:
"The report? Reee-diculous. Reee-diculous. No. Ridiculous."
In the same story, a rival general manager had a different thought:
"Where there is smoke, there is fire," one general manager said Friday night
. "This could be the first visible sign of a crack that could bring the
whole thing they've built down to the ground."
Monday, 4:03 a.m.: Browns owner Jimmy Haslam confirms that Cleveland had
discussions with the 49ers, per USA Today Sports.
"There was an opportunity there, and it didn't materialize," Haslam said.
In the meantime, David Fucillo of Niners Nation is hoping the story can
subside to allow Harbaugh and the 49ers to live in harmony again:
All we can hope for at this point is that the 49ers and Jim Harbaugh get an
extension worked out. Until we hear of an extension, we'll be stuck with the
PFT's of the world throwing as much out there as they can to prove they
were right initially. If the team goes into the 2014 season with an
extension still waiting, I can understand why fans would become concerned.
It's one reason winning the Super Bowl any of these last three years would
have been even better. It would remove that "can he win the big one?" from
contract negotiations. But, the 49ers haven't won, and so we're stuck with
this side of contract negotiations. Such is life. I don't think the
situation is nearly at the level national media would like us to think it is.
Fucillo also believes there is a man getting away clean from this story who
has some dirt on his hands:
One person not mentioned in any reports (except that of socalisteph) is
Harbaugh's agent, David Dunn. I've heard from Texas friends that Dunn was
behind the Harbaugh-Texas rumors. I thought that was the case, but had never
heard it specifically. The belief is that one reason national NFL media
reported on it and college guys were not was because Dunn has their ear.
Very few people seem to be asking the question about Dunn's involvement in
any of this. I do wonder if he's such a significant source for some media
members that they wouldn't dare throw anything on him with this.
As the offseason continues, it will be intriguing to see how the drama in
San Francisco unfolds. Harbaugh has two years left on his five-year contract
, but will he receive an extension? Should he go through the 2014-15 season
without an extension, the NFL world will be watching next offseason because
without a new deal, he would be coming in as a lame duck.
Harbaugh has been a popular source of coaching rumors dating back to his
time at Stanford. Here's a timeline of the major rumors he's been involved
in since 2009.
Dec. 12, 2009: Stanford announces it has signed Harbaugh to a three-year
extension amid rumored interest from Notre Dame and Kansas.
Jan. 11, 2010: Still at Stanford, Harbaugh refuses to comment on rumors that
he'll replace Pete Carroll at USC.
Nov. 25, 2010: ESPN's Kirk Herbstreit reports that Harbaugh is poised to
replace Rich Rodriquez at Michigan.
Herbstreit, via The Ann Arbor News.
There's been rumors up in here, up in the north, that on Monday, they might
make a move and release Rich Rodriguez. If that happens, within 24 hours,
Jim Harbaugh will be announced as the Michigan coach.
Jan. 9, 2011: Harbaugh signs a five-year deal as the head coach of the 49ers.
Dec. 12, 2013: Adam Schefter reports that Texas is interested in Harbaugh,
and that Harbaugh turned down an offer from USC earlier in the year.
The Longhorns eventually hire Charlie Strong.
B*****e
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黄狗这个队的经营真是太烂了 周末刚读到一个数字
从1999年建立以来
他们一共为已经离开的人支付了超过了$1亿的薪水(也就是死钱)
And here is the punch line:
这还不是对工资帽的(夸大值的)冲击
而是每分钱都货真价实的付出去了
因为 -- ready for this? -- 这$1亿的冤枉钱
还不是给球员们的! 而只是给教练经理们的!
这得是多无能加多倒霉 才能达到的成绩啊!
还有 报道说四九人要把小哈宝换给黄狗 啥意思?
SF只能把小哈宝除名 放走 但可不能指定他去哪里
以前拍子把小鸡换来 那是因为他已经答应来的
小哈宝自己愿意去黄狗了么?
这可没有合约强制他, and why should he choose the Browns ?

three

【在 e******u 的大作中提到】
: http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2014/2/24/5442024/jim-harbaugh-san-
: San Francisco has some potentially serious problems with its star coach
: after reports surfaced about the uneasiness by the bay.
: TWEET (12) SHARE (128)  SHARE 7 COMMENTS
: The San Francisco 49ers hired head coach Jim Harbaugh three years ago, who
: took over a team that had not been to an NFC Championship game since 1996.
: Under Harbaugh, the 49ers have at least been to the NFC title game all three
: seasons, including a Super Bowl appearance in 2013.
: However, that might not be enough to keep the two sides together for very
: long, according to Jason La Canfora of CBS. Harbaugh and general manager

l*x
发帖数: 14021
3
今年要同时给3个主教练付工资, 两个前任的, 一个现任的。去年也是, 应该是刚付完
曼小鸡的第四年合同。今年人家就不做评论员, 出来当教练了。

【在 B*****e 的大作中提到】
: 黄狗这个队的经营真是太烂了 周末刚读到一个数字
: 从1999年建立以来
: 他们一共为已经离开的人支付了超过了$1亿的薪水(也就是死钱)
: And here is the punch line:
: 这还不是对工资帽的(夸大值的)冲击
: 而是每分钱都货真价实的付出去了
: 因为 -- ready for this? -- 这$1亿的冤枉钱
: 还不是给球员们的! 而只是给教练经理们的!
: 这得是多无能加多倒霉 才能达到的成绩啊!
: 还有 报道说四九人要把小哈宝换给黄狗 啥意思?

N*****m
发帖数: 42603
4
哪个队?

【在 l*x 的大作中提到】
: 今年要同时给3个主教练付工资, 两个前任的, 一个现任的。去年也是, 应该是刚付完
: 曼小鸡的第四年合同。今年人家就不做评论员, 出来当教练了。

l*x
发帖数: 14021
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te coach at 49ers.

【在 N*****m 的大作中提到】
: 哪个队?
E********t
发帖数: 4091
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这次Jim如果离开49ers UMich会不惜一切代价抢人么?
P*******e
发帖数: 39399
7

three

【在 e******u 的大作中提到】
: http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2014/2/24/5442024/jim-harbaugh-san-
: San Francisco has some potentially serious problems with its star coach
: after reports surfaced about the uneasiness by the bay.
: TWEET (12) SHARE (128)  SHARE 7 COMMENTS
: The San Francisco 49ers hired head coach Jim Harbaugh three years ago, who
: took over a team that had not been to an NFC Championship game since 1996.
: Under Harbaugh, the 49ers have at least been to the NFC title game all three
: seasons, including a Super Bowl appearance in 2013.
: However, that might not be enough to keep the two sides together for very
: long, according to Jason La Canfora of CBS. Harbaugh and general manager

P*******e
发帖数: 39399
8
49跟哈巴这出闹剧真是挺可笑的
作为同区死敌
从第一年对哈宝张狂的不屑同时又不得不面对49实在地崛起
第二年哈宝有所收敛但是实力无比强大
到最后一年哈宝开始融入NFL实力继续保持稳定 海鹰颇有些幸运地踏着49尸体拿戒指
虽然仍然不喜欢哈巴 但是确实是非常有能力的教练
三场比赛都是一线之间 他或许也需要点运气 49也应该给他更多的时间和耐心
唯一合理的解释就是大家觉得夺冠窗口已经结束 需要重建

three

【在 e******u 的大作中提到】
: http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2014/2/24/5442024/jim-harbaugh-san-
: San Francisco has some potentially serious problems with its star coach
: after reports surfaced about the uneasiness by the bay.
: TWEET (12) SHARE (128)  SHARE 7 COMMENTS
: The San Francisco 49ers hired head coach Jim Harbaugh three years ago, who
: took over a team that had not been to an NFC Championship game since 1996.
: Under Harbaugh, the 49ers have at least been to the NFC title game all three
: seasons, including a Super Bowl appearance in 2013.
: However, that might not be enough to keep the two sides together for very
: long, according to Jason La Canfora of CBS. Harbaugh and general manager

A**d
发帖数: 13310
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The reason could also be too much ego from several individuals:
multiple people want to take credit for winning the whole thing.
Yes, it's premature to count the geese now, but it'll be too
late for yourself when another guy takes all the credit.
Didn't you guys notice that Korean building their new stadium
was kicked out from the President role? That couple of loser
parents of the current joke owner in his early 30s can't
wait to jump under the spotlights after sucking for so many years.

【在 P*******e 的大作中提到】
: 49跟哈巴这出闹剧真是挺可笑的
: 作为同区死敌
: 从第一年对哈宝张狂的不屑同时又不得不面对49实在地崛起
: 第二年哈宝有所收敛但是实力无比强大
: 到最后一年哈宝开始融入NFL实力继续保持稳定 海鹰颇有些幸运地踏着49尸体拿戒指
: 虽然仍然不喜欢哈巴 但是确实是非常有能力的教练
: 三场比赛都是一线之间 他或许也需要点运气 49也应该给他更多的时间和耐心
: 唯一合理的解释就是大家觉得夺冠窗口已经结束 需要重建
:
: three

l*x
发帖数: 14021
10
many experts said this year's draft is the deepest in many years, so draft
picks are more valuable. Guess which team has the most draft picks. Yes, the
49ers. Did they have this planned all along? maybe. But their GM may be
under-credited compared to Jim; and two, we probably shouldn't assume 49ers
window has closed yet. They are still very talented, and they have a chance
to pick up lots of talents in the draft.

【在 P*******e 的大作中提到】
: 49跟哈巴这出闹剧真是挺可笑的
: 作为同区死敌
: 从第一年对哈宝张狂的不屑同时又不得不面对49实在地崛起
: 第二年哈宝有所收敛但是实力无比强大
: 到最后一年哈宝开始融入NFL实力继续保持稳定 海鹰颇有些幸运地踏着49尸体拿戒指
: 虽然仍然不喜欢哈巴 但是确实是非常有能力的教练
: 三场比赛都是一线之间 他或许也需要点运气 49也应该给他更多的时间和耐心
: 唯一合理的解释就是大家觉得夺冠窗口已经结束 需要重建
:
: three

P*******e
发帖数: 39399
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呵呵 我倒真没觉得他们已经结束了 但是我不理解冠军还没拿到就分崩离析这事
而且我谨慎看不出换了别人能比哈宝带的更好这件事
感觉49作为老牌球队 从上到下应该没那么不理智不清晰
但是 这世界上其实不存在“应该”。。。
i know 49ers have 11 picks, guess who has the fewest and how many?

the
49ers
chance

【在 l*x 的大作中提到】
: many experts said this year's draft is the deepest in many years, so draft
: picks are more valuable. Guess which team has the most draft picks. Yes, the
: 49ers. Did they have this planned all along? maybe. But their GM may be
: under-credited compared to Jim; and two, we probably shouldn't assume 49ers
: window has closed yet. They are still very talented, and they have a chance
: to pick up lots of talents in the draft.

A**d
发帖数: 13310
12
What 老牌球队? The team was first handed over to a woman by his brother.
After the team sucking for a decade under her watch, she handed the
ownership to her son, who is a little older than Kim III--that tells you how
much wisdom or sanity the team owners have. They won the lottery for
happening to have a good college coach locally at the right time. Now it's
time to suck again. Nobody knows whether the old woman or the crazy young
guy is the person running the show.

【在 P*******e 的大作中提到】
: 呵呵 我倒真没觉得他们已经结束了 但是我不理解冠军还没拿到就分崩离析这事
: 而且我谨慎看不出换了别人能比哈宝带的更好这件事
: 感觉49作为老牌球队 从上到下应该没那么不理智不清晰
: 但是 这世界上其实不存在“应该”。。。
: i know 49ers have 11 picks, guess who has the fewest and how many?
:
: the
: 49ers
: chance

l*x
发帖数: 14021
13
轰滚轮跟野马打超级碗前就已经心不在焉了。几乎史上最大上狗被爆冷。前教练蛇人也
是赢了几场比赛就要兼做经理, 把球队搞得一塌糊涂。

【在 P*******e 的大作中提到】
: 呵呵 我倒真没觉得他们已经结束了 但是我不理解冠军还没拿到就分崩离析这事
: 而且我谨慎看不出换了别人能比哈宝带的更好这件事
: 感觉49作为老牌球队 从上到下应该没那么不理智不清晰
: 但是 这世界上其实不存在“应该”。。。
: i know 49ers have 11 picks, guess who has the fewest and how many?
:
: the
: 49ers
: chance

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