l*****a
发帖数: 3630 | 1 都说现在的SF没弱点，其实并不是这样。我觉得弱点有二:
1. CK的传球
CK的传球水平最多是联盟中上。对绿湾如果不是运气好，很可能有3INT.考虑到海鸟超
强的2线，如果能造成2个以上的TO,那么很可能把9人的势头直接熄灭。
2. SF的2线防守
虽然SF的front 7几乎是公认的联盟最强，但他们的2线并没有front 7这么变态。而威
神的deep bomb的能力也还是不错的，所以一旦搞成1,2个deep bomb, SF的防守线就会
顾此失彼。
这场球的一个看点是PC是否敢于call一些大招。如果保守的傻跑，那海鸟胜面一定低于
5成。如果想要赢球，一定要敢于适当的take the risk, 搞一些trick play和deep
bomb。预测这场球应该会比较焦灼，很可能在最后一个驱动才分出胜负。 |
N*****m
发帖数: 42603 | 2 说不定又爆了
海鸟就是打9人来劲
【在 l*****a 的大作中提到】
: 都说现在的SF没弱点，其实并不是这样。我觉得弱点有二:
: 1. CK的传球
: CK的传球水平最多是联盟中上。对绿湾如果不是运气好，很可能有3INT.考虑到海鸟超
: 强的2线，如果能造成2个以上的TO,那么很可能把9人的势头直接熄灭。
: 2. SF的2线防守
: 虽然SF的front 7几乎是公认的联盟最强，但他们的2线并没有front 7这么变态。而威
: 神的deep bomb的能力也还是不错的，所以一旦搞成1,2个deep bomb, SF的防守线就会
: 顾此失彼。
: 这场球的一个看点是PC是否敢于call一些大招。如果保守的傻跑，那海鸟胜面一定低于
: 5成。如果想要赢球，一定要敢于适当的take the risk, 搞一些trick play和deep
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h**********e
发帖数: 4328 | 3 我倒是觉着小鸟儿实力更强更均衡一些
但是有可能pc被小哈宝outcoached
【在 l*****a 的大作中提到】
: 都说现在的SF没弱点，其实并不是这样。我觉得弱点有二:
: 1. CK的传球
: CK的传球水平最多是联盟中上。对绿湾如果不是运气好，很可能有3INT.考虑到海鸟超
: 强的2线，如果能造成2个以上的TO,那么很可能把9人的势头直接熄灭。
: 2. SF的2线防守
: 虽然SF的front 7几乎是公认的联盟最强，但他们的2线并没有front 7这么变态。而威
: 神的deep bomb的能力也还是不错的，所以一旦搞成1,2个deep bomb, SF的防守线就会
: 顾此失彼。
: 这场球的一个看点是PC是否敢于call一些大招。如果保守的傻跑，那海鸟胜面一定低于
: 5成。如果想要赢球，一定要敢于适当的take the risk, 搞一些trick play和deep
|
l*****a
发帖数: 3630 | 4 我觉得PC和阿森纳的温格有些像，选人，培养球员，组织球队很有一套，但是最大的软
肋是临场指挥。
【在 h**********e 的大作中提到】
: 我倒是觉着小鸟儿实力更强更均衡一些
: 但是有可能pc被小哈宝outcoached
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s*******y
发帖数: 946 | 5 我觉得是裁判。
两队实力相差无几。
如果像对红鸟那场，49人完全可以像红鸟那样跑来对付海鹰。 |
R*****s
发帖数: 2223 | 6 我觉得只要螃蟹树和保定任意一个打出来，49就赢定了。 |
c******n
发帖数: 7263 | 7 CK不能太choke
【在 R*****s 的大作中提到】
: 我觉得只要螃蟹树和保定任意一个打出来，49就赢定了。
|
R*****s
发帖数: 2223 | 8 只要保定和螃蟹树能拉长海鹰的战线，CK撒开了跑，问题就不大。
【在 c******n 的大作中提到】
: CK不能太choke
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S**********e
发帖数: 852 | 9 我个人觉得哈宝这方面不输PC
Luck就不说了，现在在Seahawks，当年哈宝在大学调教出来的还有Richard Sherman和
Doug Baldwin
Alex Smith之前7年也被认为是bust，现在也连续几年进季后赛了
【在 l*****a 的大作中提到】
: 我觉得PC和阿森纳的温格有些像，选人，培养球员，组织球队很有一套，但是最大的软
: 肋是临场指挥。
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d******k
发帖数: 4295 | 10 那小哈就是鸟叔了，盘外招完胜教授
【在 l*****a 的大作中提到】
: 我觉得PC和阿森纳的温格有些像，选人，培养球员，组织球队很有一套，但是最大的软
: 肋是临场指挥。
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A**d
发帖数: 13310 | 11 As if Crabtree didn't play in that 42-13 game
【在 R*****s 的大作中提到】
: 只要保定和螃蟹树能拉长海鹰的战线，CK撒开了跑，问题就不大。
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e******u
发帖数: 537 | 12 Richard Sherman was a college WR and not even a very good one when he's at
Stanford.
Doug Baldwin was so so too.
【在 S**********e 的大作中提到】
: 我个人觉得哈宝这方面不输PC
: Luck就不说了，现在在Seahawks，当年哈宝在大学调教出来的还有Richard Sherman和
: Doug Baldwin
: Alex Smith之前7年也被认为是bust，现在也连续几年进季后赛了
|
B*******e
发帖数: 1009 | 13 I thought Richard Sherman hated Jim Harbaugh more than anyone in the world.
【在 e******u 的大作中提到】
: Richard Sherman was a college WR and not even a very good one when he's at
: Stanford.
: Doug Baldwin was so so too.
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e******u
发帖数: 537 | 14 Jim Harbaugh bad mouthed Richard before the draft...not sure what's the real
story between the two.
so Richard "patted" Jim's ass after the win in SEA
PC was the idol for collage players who are now playing in NFL...big
advantage for him
【在 B*******e 的大作中提到】
: I thought Richard Sherman hated Jim Harbaugh more than anyone in the world.
|
S**********e
发帖数: 852 | 15 数据说话，Sherman在stanford最后两年是CB。
He switched to cornerback after his injury due to team need and made 112
tackles over his final two years, which also included 6 interceptions. He
was part of the 2010 Stanford Cardinal football team which finished 12-1, a
school record.
对于一个power house，年年recruit比Stanford不知道好多少，在homecoming输了21:
55, 然后归咎于player没有对手好，足够说明哈宝develop／挑选球员的能力了
【在 e******u 的大作中提到】
: Richard Sherman was a college WR and not even a very good one when he's at
: Stanford.
: Doug Baldwin was so so too.
|
e******u
发帖数: 537 | 16 so you chose one game to prove one coach is better than another??
Sherman's stats may be good by the stanford's standard. you can easily find
many USC players with comparable if not better stats than him.
a
【在 S**********e 的大作中提到】
: 数据说话，Sherman在stanford最后两年是CB。
: He switched to cornerback after his injury due to team need and made 112
: tackles over his final two years, which also included 6 interceptions. He
: was part of the 2010 Stanford Cardinal football team which finished 12-1, a
: school record.
: 对于一个power house，年年recruit比Stanford不知道好多少，在homecoming输了21:
: 55, 然后归咎于player没有对手好，足够说明哈宝develop／挑选球员的能力了
|
e******u
发帖数: 537 | 17 but Sherman's stats DID stand out in NFL but no one ever heard of him (
except for tree fans) in college.
so who did a better job developing players? that's a reason why Sherman
hates Jim, surprisingly.
find
【在 e******u 的大作中提到】
: so you chose one game to prove one coach is better than another??
: Sherman's stats may be good by the stanford's standard. you can easily find
: many USC players with comparable if not better stats than him.
:
: a
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S**********e
发帖数: 852 | 18 Well, IMHO, JH is a better coach in developing players. PC did a great job
in USC, but i just don't think he could turn a 1-11 team to a 12-1 team in 4
years.
Also, if you look at the recruit rankings, USC always have better recruits
than Stanford, yet lost at home, it means something about developing players.
find
【在 e******u 的大作中提到】
: so you chose one game to prove one coach is better than another??
: Sherman's stats may be good by the stanford's standard. you can easily find
: many USC players with comparable if not better stats than him.
:
: a
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S**********e
发帖数: 852 | 19 are you saying a wr could suddenly become a HOF cb in one year?
I don't know why Sherman hates JH, but it is rumored that Sherman bad mouth
the team on RG3's visit and thus JH didn't like him.
【在 e******u 的大作中提到】
: but Sherman's stats DID stand out in NFL but no one ever heard of him (
: except for tree fans) in college.
: so who did a better job developing players? that's a reason why Sherman
: hates Jim, surprisingly.
:
: find
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A**d
发帖数: 13310 | 20 The score means less in NCAA than in NFL, because college kids are emotional
and play inconsistent football.
What about the players we can directly compare with? Harbaugh didn't bother
to draft either Sherman or Baldwin. Baldwin actually didn't get drafted by
anybody, which means Harbaugh could have tried him for free if he saw talent
in Baldwin. Baldwin still isn't great, but is apparently serviceable.
Sherman is... Based on these, what do you mean by saying Harbaugh is great
at developing talents?
Let's count CK a success. Besides CK and Eric Reid, who else has Harbaugh
developed in the last 3 years at SF with huge number of drafts?
a
【在 S**********e 的大作中提到】
: 数据说话，Sherman在stanford最后两年是CB。
: He switched to cornerback after his injury due to team need and made 112
: tackles over his final two years, which also included 6 interceptions. He
: was part of the 2010 Stanford Cardinal football team which finished 12-1, a
: school record.
: 对于一个power house，年年recruit比Stanford不知道好多少，在homecoming输了21:
: 55, 然后归咎于player没有对手好，足够说明哈宝develop／挑选球员的能力了
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d*****y
发帖数: 1365 | 21 yes. PC's strength is recruiting
4
players.
【在 S**********e 的大作中提到】
: Well, IMHO, JH is a better coach in developing players. PC did a great job
: in USC, but i just don't think he could turn a 1-11 team to a 12-1 team in 4
: years.
: Also, if you look at the recruit rankings, USC always have better recruits
: than Stanford, yet lost at home, it means something about developing players.
:
: find
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d*****y
发帖数: 1365 | 22 How did PC become the 'idol' for college players? ....By sleeping with them?
lol
real
【在 e******u 的大作中提到】
: Jim Harbaugh bad mouthed Richard before the draft...not sure what's the real
: story between the two.
: so Richard "patted" Jim's ass after the win in SEA
: PC was the idol for collage players who are now playing in NFL...big
: advantage for him
|
A**d
发帖数: 13310 | 23 You can't use recruiting as an excuse if you almost got RG3 after you
already had Luck on-board.
【在 d*****y 的大作中提到】
: yes. PC's strength is recruiting
:
: 4
: players.
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p**********g
发帖数: 9385 | 24 RG3 should have regretted not to play for Harbaugh.
【在 A**d 的大作中提到】
: You can't use recruiting as an excuse if you almost got RG3 after you
: already had Luck on-board.
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A**d
发帖数: 13310 | 25 ah? Do you really think RG3 could have still got drafted second overall
after playing as Luck's backup through most of his college career?
【在 p**********g 的大作中提到】
: RG3 should have regretted not to play for Harbaugh.
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e******u
发帖数: 537 | 26 if that's way how you envision being a idol, go ahead..lol.
PC and NS are the two best college coaches..period.
them?
【在 d*****y 的大作中提到】
: How did PC become the 'idol' for college players? ....By sleeping with them?
: lol
:
: real
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e******u
发帖数: 537 | 27 who did he develop exactly?
4
players.
【在 S**********e 的大作中提到】
: Well, IMHO, JH is a better coach in developing players. PC did a great job
: in USC, but i just don't think he could turn a 1-11 team to a 12-1 team in 4
: years.
: Also, if you look at the recruit rankings, USC always have better recruits
: than Stanford, yet lost at home, it means something about developing players.
:
: find
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e******u
发帖数: 537 | 28 recruiting does not win you 7 consecutive pac-10 champs and the best BCS
bowl winning record 6-1. lol..
【在 d*****y 的大作中提到】
: yes. PC's strength is recruiting
:
: 4
: players.
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e******u
发帖数: 537 | 29 are you saying Jim did not draft his own developed HOF corner? lol...
mouth
【在 S**********e 的大作中提到】
: are you saying a wr could suddenly become a HOF cb in one year?
: I don't know why Sherman hates JH, but it is rumored that Sherman bad mouth
: the team on RG3's visit and thus JH didn't like him.
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S**********e
发帖数: 852 | 30 You are right. There is also NCAA violations.
【在 e******u 的大作中提到】
: recruiting does not win you 7 consecutive pac-10 champs and the best BCS
: bowl winning record 6-1. lol..
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d*****y
发帖数: 1365 | 31 呵呵,看来是个新警察.
PC和graduate student 睡觉可不是我杜撰的,是查大嘴不小心抖搂出来的.
【在 e******u 的大作中提到】
: if that's way how you envision being a idol, go ahead..lol.
: PC and NS are the two best college coaches..period.
:
: them?
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H**p
发帖数: 2504 | 32 Aldon Smith is pretty good.
【在 A**d 的大作中提到】
: ah? Do you really think RG3 could have still got drafted second overall
: after playing as Luck's backup through most of his college career?
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e******u
发帖数: 537 | 33 that has been proved to have nothing to do with PC...
【在 S**********e 的大作中提到】
: You are right. There is also NCAA violations.
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e******u
发帖数: 537 | 34 查大嘴 ate the crow himself...and you dig the crow out of his mouth? lol
【在 d*****y 的大作中提到】
: 呵呵,看来是个新警察.
: PC和graduate student 睡觉可不是我杜撰的,是查大嘴不小心抖搂出来的.
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A**d
发帖数: 13310 | 35 It must take a genius to develop a No. 7 overall draft
into a good player with all sorts of legal problems.
【在 H**p 的大作中提到】
: Aldon Smith is pretty good.
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d*****y
发帖数: 1365 | 36 呵呵,这种事情,圈内人知道的八卦比你这个nobody要多多了
我感觉PC会是football这个圈子里面第一个出柜的基佬...哈哈
【在 e******u 的大作中提到】
: 查大嘴 ate the crow himself...and you dig the crow out of his mouth? lol
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B*****e
发帖数: 9375 | 37
One view held by some, including quite a few here in LA, is that given USC's
rosters and the soft Pac-10 in those years, some of his exact contemporaries
would have come home with more trophies than Carroll's 1 and a half.
【在 e******u 的大作中提到】
: recruiting does not win you 7 consecutive pac-10 champs and the best BCS
: bowl winning record 6-1. lol..
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e******u
发帖数: 537 | 38 so you are somebody that in the 圈内?
【在 d*****y 的大作中提到】
: 呵呵,这种事情,圈内人知道的八卦比你这个nobody要多多了
: 我感觉PC会是football这个圈子里面第一个出柜的基佬...哈哈
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p**********g
发帖数: 9385 | 39 Auburn对那个冠军，意见很大！
's
【在 B*****e 的大作中提到】
:
: One view held by some, including quite a few here in LA, is that given USC's
: rosters and the soft Pac-10 in those years, some of his exact contemporaries
: would have come home with more trophies than Carroll's 1 and a half.
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e******u
发帖数: 537 | 40 the soft pac-10 and the dominate USC were two sides of the same coin. The
soft pac-10 was because of the dominant USC that had also won easily against
SEC and big-10 opponents
's
【在 B*****e 的大作中提到】
:
: One view held by some, including quite a few here in LA, is that given USC's
: rosters and the soft Pac-10 in those years, some of his exact contemporaries
: would have come home with more trophies than Carroll's 1 and a half.
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e******u
发帖数: 537 | 41 and lost to USC 0:23 at home, when being ranked #6
【在 p**********g 的大作中提到】
: Auburn对那个冠军，意见很大！
:
: 's
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p**********g
发帖数: 9385 | 42 Auburn那年十三战全胜，好不好？
【在 e******u 的大作中提到】
: and lost to USC 0:23 at home, when being ranked #6
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B*****e
发帖数: 9375 | 43
AU没啥资格抱怨吧 记得USC来年就痛宰了他们
倒是如果SEC那几个教练过来带USC的黄金阵容对Pac-10的乌合之众
真的 那就很可能是三个四个冠军都抱回家了
【在 p**********g 的大作中提到】
: Auburn对那个冠军，意见很大！
:
: 's
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p**********g
发帖数: 9385 | 44 脑残啊啊一年是一年，哪有来年算账的？
【在 B*****e 的大作中提到】
:
: AU没啥资格抱怨吧 记得USC来年就痛宰了他们
: 倒是如果SEC那几个教练过来带USC的黄金阵容对Pac-10的乌合之众
: 真的 那就很可能是三个四个冠军都抱回家了
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e******u
发帖数: 537 | 45 USC 13 wins too and beat the hell out of Auburn the year before at Auburn's
home court, and the year before during PC's first 7 win season. so which
team would you rank ahead?
【在 p**********g 的大作中提到】
: Auburn那年十三战全胜，好不好？
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e******u
发帖数: 537 | 46 Saban's roster is now even more impressive than PC's ..you could argue in
the same way.
【在 B*****e 的大作中提到】
:
: AU没啥资格抱怨吧 记得USC来年就痛宰了他们
: 倒是如果SEC那几个教练过来带USC的黄金阵容对Pac-10的乌合之众
: 真的 那就很可能是三个四个冠军都抱回家了
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f******o
发帖数: 4689 | 47 不用讲了，auburn早都宣布人民冠军了。
s
【在 e******u 的大作中提到】
: USC 13 wins too and beat the hell out of Auburn the year before at Auburn's
: home court, and the year before during PC's first 7 win season. so which
: team would you rank ahead?
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l****l
发帖数: 3394 | 48 天哪，难道PC和RW早晨4点去球场看的录像不是比赛录像。。。 |
