b*****u
发帖数: 1978 | 1 昨天倒粪最后一个 TD drive，3rd and 16 那个play，我觉得是拍子输球的关键。
此前，拍子防守组连续5个play都很成功：先是上一个drive防得倒粪3 and out，
然后自己进攻组TD反超之后，虽然 Goats 送给倒粪一个愚蠢的40码线进攻，
但防守组连续两次防守成功，包括二档麻袋了谭小山，逼成了3rd and 16
at Dolphin's 34-yard line。
然后这个play 就是头脑不清醒了：中路放出10码左右的空档，只守住 first down
line，
结果让 Harline 轻松接住11码球，形成 4th and 5。后面就不说了。
头脑不清楚体现在几个地方：
(1) 如果在平时，3rd and 16，又在对方半场，当然可以只盯 first down line，
逼对方 4th down punt。但那时只剩4分钟，倒粪落后，那么选择 punt 的可能性
非常小 ---- 谁都知道拍子最擅长打小叮当走表。倒粪肯定是做了准备4档进攻。
既然对方还有两档进攻，防守组就不能轻易送出一档10码。中路的二线不应留出
这么大空间，就算是坚决防身后，身前留7-8码也就可以了。最后一档如果是
4th and 8，结果就完全不同了。
我觉得拍子从教练到球员，还沉浸在刚刚麻袋的喜悦中，以为再防一档就行了，
没有意识到现在还有两档要防。
(2) 面对3rd and 16，防守组要防倒粪什么？我会主防传中路。跑攻？整场比赛
倒粪跑攻乏力，此时又面临长码数，跑攻可以忽略。长传边路？虽然Wallace跑得快，
但整场并无甩开拍子狂奔身后的场景，而且谭小山在pass rush之下，几次长传都
不靠谱，此时又不是最后一档，不太可能浪费一档来赌一把大的。中路？对，
多半是它。整个下半场 Hartline 在中路接球无数次，虽然码数不惊人，但多次成功；
包括Wallace半场结束前的38码TD，也是跑了个cross route，在中路接了个短的，
然后利用拍子二线两人tackle的失误，脱身跑成TD。此时面对3rd and 16，而且拍子
的pass rush 居然还能给压力，那么谭小山成功率最大的play，无疑就是它了。
如果意识到这点，就应该叫个暂停，针对下半场中路多次被爆来部署，并通过换人
来加强中路。事实证明，Hightower 在防传上简直惨不忍睹。
其实整场拍子的三档防守并不差，好象倒粪进攻的三档成功率只是4/11。可惜，这个
3rd and 16 应该当做二档来防的。 |
l******u
发帖数: 2401 | 2 我倒是觉得4th and 5的时候应该叫个暂停，一来给大鱼时间再想想，二来自己也可以
布置下防守。不过这么多年看球，印象中小鸡3档叫暂停布置防守，基本都让对方成功
一档了 |
c***c
发帖数: 4341 | 3 这就是典型的 Monday Morning Quarterback
【在 b*****u 的大作中提到】
: 昨天倒粪最后一个 TD drive，3rd and 16 那个play，我觉得是拍子输球的关键。
: 此前，拍子防守组连续5个play都很成功：先是上一个drive防得倒粪3 and out，
: 然后自己进攻组TD反超之后，虽然 Goats 送给倒粪一个愚蠢的40码线进攻，
: 但防守组连续两次防守成功，包括二档麻袋了谭小山，逼成了3rd and 16
: at Dolphin's 34-yard line。
: 然后这个play 就是头脑不清醒了：中路放出10码左右的空档，只守住 first down
: line，
: 结果让 Harline 轻松接住11码球，形成 4th and 5。后面就不说了。
: 头脑不清楚体现在几个地方：
: (1) 如果在平时，3rd and 16，又在对方半场，当然可以只盯 first down line，
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P*******e
发帖数: 39399 | 4 哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈
这就是典型的 Monday Morning Quarterback
【在 c***c 的大作中提到】
: 这就是典型的 Monday Morning Quarterback
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z*i
发帖数: 58873 | 5 在其他的3rd and 16这样防都没错，但是在这个situation确实是太本本主义了。 好比
人家拿刀过来跟你玩命，你反而说请问贵姓？
【在 b*****u 的大作中提到】
: 昨天倒粪最后一个 TD drive，3rd and 16 那个play，我觉得是拍子输球的关键。
: 此前，拍子防守组连续5个play都很成功：先是上一个drive防得倒粪3 and out，
: 然后自己进攻组TD反超之后，虽然 Goats 送给倒粪一个愚蠢的40码线进攻，
: 但防守组连续两次防守成功，包括二档麻袋了谭小山，逼成了3rd and 16
: at Dolphin's 34-yard line。
: 然后这个play 就是头脑不清醒了：中路放出10码左右的空档，只守住 first down
: line，
: 结果让 Harline 轻松接住11码球，形成 4th and 5。后面就不说了。
: 头脑不清楚体现在几个地方：
: (1) 如果在平时，3rd and 16，又在对方半场，当然可以只盯 first down line，
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g*******s
发帖数: 2828 | 6 我倒觉得那个play不是我们的问题。sometimes u gotta give opposing team credit-
- they made better play there and they had guts to go for it -- not every
coach would make that call. also, on the 4th&5, it was almost a broken play
-- the throw to Clay was off (good pressure on T), and Clay only got away
after an obvious hold (no call). And remember Clay, who had been huge for
the Fins this year, did not have a catch the entire game until that point.
Chick took him away beautifully.
i thought yesterday's game was lost on little things that Pats typically do
well -- special team and tackling. you mentioned tackling. we didn't really
give up too many big plays but the YAC after poor tackling killed us. And
Ghost. The missed FG and KO directly led to Fins starting at 40 yards and
getting TD. those are killers.
don't want to blame Ghost too much. he had a great season. everybody is
bound to have a sub-par game.
i am still mad at our OL not standing up for Brady, especially Mankins who
supposedly is a hard-nosed/dirty guy. maybe he is gun shy after several
terrible penalties last few games. maybe he is just too old. need to get his
contract re-worked this off-season.
说过好多次了，今年真是非战之过。这么多受伤，天亡我拍。说句不怕得罪白菜粉的话
，看着media这么hype 白菜(SI sportsman of the year? seriously?),看看他那天在
狐狸堡下半场苦着脸那个耸样，看看鼻子上礼拜失去巨汗后最后一分半钟落后12分时还
在奋战。我觉得我们家鼻子真是可以用天龙八部里萧峰对慕容复那段话，“萧某大好男
儿，竟和你这种人齐名”
【在 b*****u 的大作中提到】
: 昨天倒粪最后一个 TD drive，3rd and 16 那个play，我觉得是拍子输球的关键。
: 此前，拍子防守组连续5个play都很成功：先是上一个drive防得倒粪3 and out，
: 然后自己进攻组TD反超之后，虽然 Goats 送给倒粪一个愚蠢的40码线进攻，
: 但防守组连续两次防守成功，包括二档麻袋了谭小山，逼成了3rd and 16
: at Dolphin's 34-yard line。
: 然后这个play 就是头脑不清醒了：中路放出10码左右的空档，只守住 first down
: line，
: 结果让 Harline 轻松接住11码球，形成 4th and 5。后面就不说了。
: 头脑不清楚体现在几个地方：
: (1) 如果在平时，3rd and 16，又在对方半场，当然可以只盯 first down line，
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M******k
发帖数: 27573 | 7 萧峰挂了，慕容复抱得美人归，还是别比这个了。。。
credit-
play
do
really
【在 g*******s 的大作中提到】
: 我倒觉得那个play不是我们的问题。sometimes u gotta give opposing team credit-
: - they made better play there and they had guts to go for it -- not every
: coach would make that call. also, on the 4th&5, it was almost a broken play
: -- the throw to Clay was off (good pressure on T), and Clay only got away
: after an obvious hold (no call). And remember Clay, who had been huge for
: the Fins this year, did not have a catch the entire game until that point.
: Chick took him away beautifully.
: i thought yesterday's game was lost on little things that Pats typically do
: well -- special team and tackling. you mentioned tackling. we didn't really
: give up too many big plays but the YAC after poor tackling killed us. And
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z*i
发帖数: 58873 | 8 搬个板凳坐看菜汤粉丝上演麻辣香锅。。。
credit-
play
do
really
【在 g*******s 的大作中提到】
: 我倒觉得那个play不是我们的问题。sometimes u gotta give opposing team credit-
: - they made better play there and they had guts to go for it -- not every
: coach would make that call. also, on the 4th&5, it was almost a broken play
: -- the throw to Clay was off (good pressure on T), and Clay only got away
: after an obvious hold (no call). And remember Clay, who had been huge for
: the Fins this year, did not have a catch the entire game until that point.
: Chick took him away beautifully.
: i thought yesterday's game was lost on little things that Pats typically do
: well -- special team and tackling. you mentioned tackling. we didn't really
: give up too many big plays but the YAC after poor tackling killed us. And
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M******k
发帖数: 27573 | 9 比我家扫地胖僧老雷如何？
【在 z*i 的大作中提到】
: 搬个板凳坐看菜汤粉丝上演麻辣香锅。。。
:
: credit-
: play
: do
: really
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R*3
发帖数: 11814 | 10 先不论对错，拍粉们的专业就值得赞一个！
credit-
play
do
really
【在 g*******s 的大作中提到】
: 我倒觉得那个play不是我们的问题。sometimes u gotta give opposing team credit-
: - they made better play there and they had guts to go for it -- not every
: coach would make that call. also, on the 4th&5, it was almost a broken play
: -- the throw to Clay was off (good pressure on T), and Clay only got away
: after an obvious hold (no call). And remember Clay, who had been huge for
: the Fins this year, did not have a catch the entire game until that point.
: Chick took him away beautifully.
: i thought yesterday's game was lost on little things that Pats typically do
: well -- special team and tackling. you mentioned tackling. we didn't really
: give up too many big plays but the YAC after poor tackling killed us. And
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b*****u
发帖数: 1978 | 11 嗯，刚才少说了一句：应该给倒粪 credit 的。那时打4档不需要多少guts，但执行
战术恰当，还是应该表扬的。
Mankins 的表现，我没看仔细，好象说Solder下去后，让他打了LT？？？又说上一
次他打LT是两年前，结果腿被blown了，那场的对手是。。。倒粪。
credit-
play
do
really
【在 g*******s 的大作中提到】
: 我倒觉得那个play不是我们的问题。sometimes u gotta give opposing team credit-
: - they made better play there and they had guts to go for it -- not every
: coach would make that call. also, on the 4th&5, it was almost a broken play
: -- the throw to Clay was off (good pressure on T), and Clay only got away
: after an obvious hold (no call). And remember Clay, who had been huge for
: the Fins this year, did not have a catch the entire game until that point.
: Chick took him away beautifully.
: i thought yesterday's game was lost on little things that Pats typically do
: well -- special team and tackling. you mentioned tackling. we didn't really
: give up too many big plays but the YAC after poor tackling killed us. And
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d*****e
发帖数: 16730 | 12 慕容复哪里抱上了...
【在 M******k 的大作中提到】
: 萧峰挂了，慕容复抱得美人归，还是别比这个了。。。
:
: credit-
: play
: do
: really
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b*****u
发帖数: 1978 | 13 阿碧
【在 d*****e 的大作中提到】
: 慕容复哪里抱上了...
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C*******d
发帖数: 1553 | 14 抱上了也不举吧。。。。
【在 b*****u 的大作中提到】
: 阿碧
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M******k
发帖数: 27573 | 15 脑子有问题，生理又没问题。
【在 C*******d 的大作中提到】
: 抱上了也不举吧。。。。
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k***r
发帖数: 13724 | 16 不是新版的里王语嫣还是回到慕容复身边了么？
【在 d*****e 的大作中提到】
: 慕容复哪里抱上了...
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z*i
发帖数: 58873 | 17 我也觉得这样合情合理。。。
【在 k***r 的大作中提到】
: 不是新版的里王语嫣还是回到慕容复身边了么？
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B*****e
发帖数: 9375 | 18
嗯 这两拨每次互 咬 都很激烈
【在 z*i 的大作中提到】
: 搬个板凳坐看菜汤粉丝上演麻辣香锅。。。
:
: credit-
: play
: do
: really
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o*l
发帖数: 3022 | 19 我拍这种纪律至上的球队，除非是特别过分的，一般不会动手
credit-
play
do
really
【在 g*******s 的大作中提到】
: 我倒觉得那个play不是我们的问题。sometimes u gotta give opposing team credit-
: - they made better play there and they had guts to go for it -- not every
: coach would make that call. also, on the 4th&5, it was almost a broken play
: -- the throw to Clay was off (good pressure on T), and Clay only got away
: after an obvious hold (no call). And remember Clay, who had been huge for
: the Fins this year, did not have a catch the entire game until that point.
: Chick took him away beautifully.
: i thought yesterday's game was lost on little things that Pats typically do
: well -- special team and tackling. you mentioned tackling. we didn't really
: give up too many big plays but the YAC after poor tackling killed us. And
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z*i
发帖数: 58873 | 20 play结束以后不动手。 play的时候可以很脏啊。
【在 o*l 的大作中提到】
: 我拍这种纪律至上的球队，除非是特别过分的，一般不会动手
:
: credit-
: play
: do
: really
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d*****e
发帖数: 16730 | 21 不知道于妈版会如何…
【在 k***r 的大作中提到】
: 不是新版的里王语嫣还是回到慕容复身边了么？
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k***r
发帖数: 13724 | 22 这个是金庸自己改的，不是电视剧发挥
【在 d*****e 的大作中提到】
: 不知道于妈版会如何…
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N*****m
发帖数: 42603 | 23 塔利班笑而不语
【在 o*l 的大作中提到】
: 我拍这种纪律至上的球队，除非是特别过分的，一般不会动手
:
: credit-
: play
: do
: really
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M******k
发帖数: 27573 | 24 鄙视这种打架还输了的。
【在 N*****m 的大作中提到】
: 塔利班笑而不语
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d******e
发帖数: 2271 | 25 当时解说员都感觉要4th and punt了
就是小鱼命硬
印象中上次拍子赢小鱼靠哨子了？
这次老天平衡过来了
【在 b*****u 的大作中提到】
: 昨天倒粪最后一个 TD drive，3rd and 16 那个play，我觉得是拍子输球的关键。
: 此前，拍子防守组连续5个play都很成功：先是上一个drive防得倒粪3 and out，
: 然后自己进攻组TD反超之后，虽然 Goats 送给倒粪一个愚蠢的40码线进攻，
: 但防守组连续两次防守成功，包括二档麻袋了谭小山，逼成了3rd and 16
: at Dolphin's 34-yard line。
: 然后这个play 就是头脑不清醒了：中路放出10码左右的空档，只守住 first down
: line，
: 结果让 Harline 轻松接住11码球，形成 4th and 5。后面就不说了。
: 头脑不清楚体现在几个地方：
: (1) 如果在平时，3rd and 16，又在对方半场，当然可以只盯 first down line，
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w***7
发帖数: 5568 | 26 谁跟北卡拍饭一般见识，论choking都能把长鼻子说得choke得帅，不值一提啊。
【在 z*i 的大作中提到】
: 搬个板凳坐看菜汤粉丝上演麻辣香锅。。。
:
: credit-
: play
: do
: really
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l*****8
发帖数: 16949 | 27 你看球了吗？昨天明明是大好男儿一奋战，就把大鱼生吃了。
【在 w***7 的大作中提到】
: 谁跟北卡拍饭一般见识，论choking都能把长鼻子说得choke得帅，不值一提啊。
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C********g
发帖数: 3574 | 28 不能以港版的那个的长相先入为主。。。
【在 C*******d 的大作中提到】
: 抱上了也不举吧。。。。
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w***7
发帖数: 5568 | 29 看了，看了。说错了，那是被鱼骨头卡了脖子的clutch.
【在 l*****8 的大作中提到】
: 你看球了吗？昨天明明是大好男儿一奋战，就把大鱼生吃了。
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d********y
发帖数: 2114 | 30 机器猫接住不就赢了？
波过这场比赛还是体现了拍子目前水平了。
比赛中不确定因数很多，不能每次都按照自己方向。
现在就是进攻无力，防守防不住。 |
