l****7 发帖数: 975 | 1 大部分都是牛校的 -- standford, yale, harvard, 等等
真是不让人活了。。。 |
z*********u 发帖数: 104 | 2 感觉中国人圈子里一说起teaching school都满脸鄙夷的样子
实际上好一点的lac基本都是在顶尖的学校招人,而且偏重本科排名高的私立大学
他们的发考题个人科研能力很强,教学能力也很强,纯粹是个人对科研和教学的比重口
味不同
【在 l****7 的大作中提到】 : 大部分都是牛校的 -- standford, yale, harvard, 等等 : 真是不让人活了。。。
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m****m 发帖数: 2211 | 3 是纯文理专业吧
商学院牛校出来的不常见
【在 l****7 的大作中提到】 : 大部分都是牛校的 -- standford, yale, harvard, 等等 : 真是不让人活了。。。
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m****m 发帖数: 2211 | 4 不但如此
我发现开会胡侃
学问做的好的都拒谈teaching
你说:听说你很enjoy teaching
他准当你是骂他
就好比越穷越光荣,teaching越烂,越觉得是一种成就
【在 z*********u 的大作中提到】 : 感觉中国人圈子里一说起teaching school都满脸鄙夷的样子 : 实际上好一点的lac基本都是在顶尖的学校招人,而且偏重本科排名高的私立大学 : 他们的发考题个人科研能力很强,教学能力也很强,纯粹是个人对科研和教学的比重口 : 味不同
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h*****n 发帖数: 924 | 5 good lacs like top school ppl, because they need the brands to attract ric
h students
however, i highly doubt their faculty have good research "ability." i never
heard a research star that chooses lac.
actually, on average, lac salaries are much lower than those of research uni
vs.
i agree that it is no wrong to love teaching -- this is just personal choice
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【在 z*********u 的大作中提到】 : 感觉中国人圈子里一说起teaching school都满脸鄙夷的样子 : 实际上好一点的lac基本都是在顶尖的学校招人,而且偏重本科排名高的私立大学 : 他们的发考题个人科研能力很强,教学能力也很强,纯粹是个人对科研和教学的比重口 : 味不同
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h*****n 发帖数: 924 | 6 bad teaching is no fame, neither is good teaching
【在 m****m 的大作中提到】 : 不但如此 : 我发现开会胡侃 : 学问做的好的都拒谈teaching : 你说:听说你很enjoy teaching : 他准当你是骂他 : 就好比越穷越光荣,teaching越烂,越觉得是一种成就
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l****7 发帖数: 975 | 7 绝对没有鄙视teaching的意思,其实挺喜欢teaching的,反而觉得research
university的teaching质量有点问题。本人不是超级牛牛,不认为能同时搞好research
和 teaching,所以决定去teaching school更专注的搞teaching。可是牛人太多了,
而我本人从来没有系统的做过TA,只是老板不在的时候帮他带带科。 本人还是做
Engineering的。
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y******l 发帖数: 900 | 8 认识一个大牛,research超强,teaching更加。
简直是我的偶像。
一个真正的researcher应该是一个懂得深入浅出的scholar。
【在 m****m 的大作中提到】 : 不但如此 : 我发现开会胡侃 : 学问做的好的都拒谈teaching : 你说:听说你很enjoy teaching : 他准当你是骂他 : 就好比越穷越光荣,teaching越烂,越觉得是一种成就
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F**D 发帖数: 6472 | |
l****7 发帖数: 975 | 10 俺这里想听听过来人出出主意呢。结果大家伙儿都乱侃起来了。。。 |
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r****e 发帖数: 3109 | 11 location, location, location
【在 l****7 的大作中提到】 : 大部分都是牛校的 -- standford, yale, harvard, 等等 : 真是不让人活了。。。
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l****7 发帖数: 975 | 12 可以说明白点么?
我比较菜 :(
是说teaching学校的地理位置好啊,还是说牛校考近teaching学校啊?
【在 r****e 的大作中提到】 : location, location, location
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c****K 发帖数: 997 | 13 地方好的学校, 不管牛不牛, 都相对难进.
【在 l****7 的大作中提到】 : 可以说明白点么? : 我比较菜 :( : 是说teaching学校的地理位置好啊,还是说牛校考近teaching学校啊?
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l****7 发帖数: 975 | 14 明白了。好像那些学校的地方都不错。。。
【在 c****K 的大作中提到】 : 地方好的学校, 不管牛不牛, 都相对难进.
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m*******s 发帖数: 7 | 15 Do you know Thomas Hunt Morgan was a faculty member in Bryn Mawr and
Haverford has a NAS member?
If I remember correctly, the average faculty salary of top LACs (Amherst,
Swarthmore, Williams) is higher than that of ivies.
Do underestimate LACs, You may want to have a look of their endowments and
alumni lists.
never
uni
【在 h*****n 的大作中提到】 : bad teaching is no fame, neither is good teaching
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R*****o 发帖数: 14902 | 16 now we are not talking about money. We are talking about research
achievements
measured by publications, external grants, etc.
【在 m*******s 的大作中提到】 : Do you know Thomas Hunt Morgan was a faculty member in Bryn Mawr and : Haverford has a NAS member? : If I remember correctly, the average faculty salary of top LACs (Amherst, : Swarthmore, Williams) is higher than that of ivies. : Do underestimate LACs, You may want to have a look of their endowments and : alumni lists. : : never : uni
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p***d 发帖数: 2171 | 17 工资倒是小事, 我感觉大陆出身的理工男恐怕和top LACs的气质格格不入吧.
LACs里面的教授应该是语言超好, 琴棋书画都会点, 跟学生惺惺相惜, 生活悠哉悠哉.
大陆来的理工教授属于民工性格, 干活拼命, 做人大条, 和4-5万学生的州立大校气质
最为吻合.
【在 m*******s 的大作中提到】 : Do you know Thomas Hunt Morgan was a faculty member in Bryn Mawr and : Haverford has a NAS member? : If I remember correctly, the average faculty salary of top LACs (Amherst, : Swarthmore, Williams) is higher than that of ivies. : Do underestimate LACs, You may want to have a look of their endowments and : alumni lists. : : never : uni
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m*******s 发帖数: 7 | 18 Did I mention Thomas Hunt Morgan? Can one become a NAS member without
superior research achievements?
Given their teaching commitment, most LAC faculty members are not as
productive as those in research universities. However, if you have a quick
look of top LACs, you will be amazed by the productivity of their faculties,
especially in social sciences.
【在 R*****o 的大作中提到】 : now we are not talking about money. We are talking about research : achievements : measured by publications, external grants, etc.
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p***d 发帖数: 2171 | 19 Thomas Hunt Morgan (1866-1945).... 100年前的人了... 那时候他们的football
肯定也很厉害.
faculties,
【在 m*******s 的大作中提到】 : Did I mention Thomas Hunt Morgan? Can one become a NAS member without : superior research achievements? : Given their teaching commitment, most LAC faculty members are not as : productive as those in research universities. However, if you have a quick : look of top LACs, you will be amazed by the productivity of their faculties, : especially in social sciences.
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m*******s 发帖数: 7 | 20 Jerry P. Gollub? NAS member and currently with Haverford College
【在 p***d 的大作中提到】 : Thomas Hunt Morgan (1866-1945).... 100年前的人了... 那时候他们的football : 肯定也很厉害. : : faculties,
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o****y 发帖数: 790 | 21 Generalizing from special example and specializing from general trend are
equally unreliable. |
h*****n 发帖数: 924 | 22 i do not think it makes sense to compare top 3 lacs with an average ivy. May
be the top lac and the top ivy.
i never double that good lacs are rich.
i do not agree with the argument that the faculty there have heavy teaching
load and hence not as productive.
teaching and research loads are both in the job offer. choosing what kind of
offer reflects a job candidate's ability, interest, and potential.
ppl choose the easiest way to make money for themselves. if they are super p
roductive in researc
【在 m*******s 的大作中提到】 : Do you know Thomas Hunt Morgan was a faculty member in Bryn Mawr and : Haverford has a NAS member? : If I remember correctly, the average faculty salary of top LACs (Amherst, : Swarthmore, Williams) is higher than that of ivies. : Do underestimate LACs, You may want to have a look of their endowments and : alumni lists. : : never : uni
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m*******s 发帖数: 7 | 23 I was just responding to an earlier post "highly doubt their faculty have
good research "ability." i never heard a research star that chooses lac".
I think that many people are biased against teaching colleges. Good teaching
and good research are not mutually exclusive. You can be superior in both,
especially in social sciences.
May
teaching
of
p
【在 h*****n 的大作中提到】 : i do not think it makes sense to compare top 3 lacs with an average ivy. May : be the top lac and the top ivy. : i never double that good lacs are rich. : i do not agree with the argument that the faculty there have heavy teaching : load and hence not as productive. : teaching and research loads are both in the job offer. choosing what kind of : offer reflects a job candidate's ability, interest, and potential. : ppl choose the easiest way to make money for themselves. if they are super p : roductive in researc
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