a**********k
发帖数: 1953 | |
a**********k
发帖数: 1953 | 2 猜想与后者那个女烙印在CSCO时的RP有关。
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s*****g
发帖数: 1055 | 3 告 CLI 类似好像站不住脚, 把 show 改成 get 还侵权吗? 至于 Arista implemented
non-standarized 的 features 也另说,只要 Arista 没有盗源代码.
你开题却没有自已的意见? |
b***p
发帖数: 700 | 4 Cisco号称是从不主动打专利官司，上次告华为的确是因为盗code了，cisco看样子是真
不行了
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a**********k
发帖数: 1953 | 5 我觉得这种事可大可小，主要看JC怎么想， 这时侯那些人，
尤其是那个烙印女在CSCO的RP就很重要了。
implemented
【在 s*****g 的大作中提到】
: 告 CLI 类似好像站不住脚, 把 show 改成 get 还侵权吗? 至于 Arista implemented
: non-standarized 的 features 也另说,只要 Arista 没有盗源代码.
: 你开题却没有自已的意见?
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a**********k
发帖数: 1953 | 6 据说是有些文档是照抄过去的， 连语法错误都一模一样。
【在 b***p 的大作中提到】
: Cisco号称是从不主动打专利官司，上次告华为的确是因为盗code了，cisco看样子是真
: 不行了
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L******t
发帖数: 1985 | |
z**r
发帖数: 17771 | 8 就跟arista反击时说的，当年IBM/LUCENT等公司告CISCO，和现在CISCO告ARISTA一模一
样。说明技术上CISCO现在的确有些落后于大趋势了，虽然可以买一堆公司回来，但是
整合不好也没用。这点俺同意ARISTA的说法，不过CLI和文档这个就是有点说不过去了
，连错误信息都一样。华为当年可是彻底就数通这块退出美国市场了，ARISTA肯定会受
到影响，多大还不能确定。庭外和解，看这两家公司死敌一样，估计也够呛吧？
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b***p
发帖数: 700 | 9 华为还是不一样，那是真偷code，binary image里面的text，几千条内容和顺序一模一
样，
【在 z**r 的大作中提到】
: 就跟arista反击时说的，当年IBM/LUCENT等公司告CISCO，和现在CISCO告ARISTA一模一
: 样。说明技术上CISCO现在的确有些落后于大趋势了，虽然可以买一堆公司回来，但是
: 整合不好也没用。这点俺同意ARISTA的说法，不过CLI和文档这个就是有点说不过去了
: ，连错误信息都一样。华为当年可是彻底就数通这块退出美国市场了，ARISTA肯定会受
: 到影响，多大还不能确定。庭外和解，看这两家公司死敌一样，估计也够呛吧？
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b***p
发帖数: 700 | 10 看了一趟，没有媒体上说的CLI和Grammer，是10+专利，什么CoPP, Private VLAN, ACL
implementation in hardware, etc.
【在 L******t 的大作中提到】
: 起诉书全文有人贴出来了：
: http://www.valleytalk.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/ciscosuear
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L******t
发帖数: 1985 | 11 Not exactly sure if CoPP is patentable, more sounds like a concept to me.
But Private VLAN is surely a patentable feature.
ACL
【在 b***p 的大作中提到】
: 看了一趟，没有媒体上说的CLI和Grammer，是10+专利，什么CoPP, Private VLAN, ACL
: implementation in hardware, etc.
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x*********n
发帖数: 28013 | |
L******t
发帖数: 1985 | 13 From comment of http://www.bradreese.com/blog/11-24-2014.htm:
I don't often praise Cisco, but taking an impartial point of view, Cisco's
action against Arista actually does have strong merit. Case law precedent is
on Cisco's side on this one. And Arista's stock taking a severe beating is
indicative of how things will pan out. Arista is worried big time even if
they are putting up a brave face and defiance in the media.
Is Cisco being a bully? You betcha! Is Cisco being opportunistic? Perhaps.
Does Cisco's suit have a leg to stand on? Yup. Will Cisco ultimately prevail
? I and many other IP attorneys seem to think so. But in the end, it will
hit Arista's margins real bad, much like how Cisco's suit against Huawei put
a dent on their US market ambitions, essentially wiping them out as a
potential competition.
And Dan Scheinman has ZERO credibility. Nevermind that he is on Arista's
Board (obvious bias right there), but this has-been old-timer geezer was a
complete failure at Cisco during his tenure as Cisco's GC, Head of Corp Dev
(responsible of many of Cisco's failed M&A deals) and the now defunct Media
Solutions Group that folded under this geriatric bozo's watch. Scheinman is
a joke Duke Law School grad. 'Nuff said. That itself is quite telling. No
one takes this Scheinman clown seriously and his lack of understanding about
the industry is evident and on the public record.
But most hilariously of all, the timing of all this suspect and quite clever
on Cisco's part. Quite a few securities lawyers have suggested that Cisco's
move against Arista was strategic. Strategic in the sense that many of
Arista's execs (former Cisco execs BTW) were just about to cash out given
that their lock on their trading window is about to expire soon. Now that
the stock has gone belly up.... well, you get the gist of it...
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!
- Corporate Renegade.
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