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EB23版 - 和律师的交流: 降级拿到EAD,180 天后换工作,原雇主的EB2 I-140还能有效吗?
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E****2
发帖数: 247
1
之所以问这个问题是因为:从目前的排期看,似乎很难说将来EB2 和EB3,哪个会快些
。所以不想失去EB2 的 I-140。
曾经在这里发帖问过,得到的回答是:新雇主需从头申请,打广告,Perm,直到 EB2 I
-140。
但我前几天和我的律师又交流此事。她认为,原来的I-140 仍然是有效的。
Copied 她的回复在下面。对她的回复,我很疑惑。所以,很想听听这里大家的意见。
My questions:
Q1: 她的认识对吗?
Q2: 是不是,只要原雇主同意,new雇主就可以take over, 像我的这个律师所说。
我的情况是:new company 和 old company ( I am currently in)是一个大公司的
不同 divisions。是merging together 的。律师说,USCIS consider them as
completely different companies. 所以 old company 不会不同意 new company
take over。
(下面的内容有一些是重复的)
(Her first answer)
If you change to New Company, an H-1B transfer would need to be filed (
unless you work for them under your EAD). Also, they'd need to take over
your Green Card case. Once your I-485 has been pending 180 days, you could
transfer to them and they can take over the Green Card application (we would
send a letter to the USCIS explaining that they are taking it over).
However, if you change to New Company before your I-485 has been pending 180
days, New Company would have to start over the entire Green Card process
for you, including Prevailing Wage, recruitment, ETA9089 (PERM), and I-140.
(After this, I want to make sure.)
Q1: "Once your I-485 has been pending 180 days, you could transfer to them
and they can take over the Green Card application (we would send a letter to
the USCIS explaining that they are taking it over)." -----So this means I
can get my GC under EB3 category without redo anything. Right?
A1: Yes, we'd just file a letter with USCIS saying New Company is taking
over your Green Card case from Old Company.
Q2: So, if I join the New Company after 180 days, can I still link I-485 to
my EB2 if needed later?
A2: Yes, once your EB-2 priority date is current again, we can email the
Texas Service Center to remind them that you have an EB-2 I-140 that is
current, and to ask them to link the pending I-485 to it. They would have
already received the letter from New Company saying they are taking over
your Green Card case.
All that matters is your I-485 is pending more than 180 days before you
transfer to New Company.
We would advise speaking to your HR about this and whether they would allow
New Company take over your Green Card, and whether they would want to
transfer your H-1B to them.
(After the above answer, I stated my concern more clearly.)
According to your answer, as long as pending more than 180 days, the WHOLE
GC package can be taken over to another employer, including the original EB2
I-140 under previous employer??
My previous concern was: The EB2 I-140 is belonging to the previous employer
and it cannot be taken over to the new employer. So this thinking is wrong?
I heard of this from some other people.
What I heard of is: if I change employer, I can still get the GC under EB3.
But if I want to go under EB2 category again, I need to go through the each
step, including Prevailing Wage, recruitment, ETA9089 (PERM), and I-140,
again. Once all have been finished (it would take at least 1 year; that is
not what I would like to do), then I have a new EB2 I-140 with my new
employer, then I can get the GC under the EB2 category again.
(Her final answer)
Both your EB-2 and EB-3 I-140s are still valid, no matter what. Once your EB
-2 priority date becomes current again, I was going to request the USCIS
link the pending I-485 back to your EB-2 case (they may do this on their own
anyway since they have your case file and A number and they see you have
two I-140s).
AC-21 (changing Green Card employers) does not change this. In fact, the
purpose of AC-21 is to preserve the underlying I-140. We do advise that your
EB-2 and EB-3 I-140s, both of them, would be okay if New Company took over
your Green card case.
When your EB-2 priority date is current, I would still email the USCIS to
link your pending I-485 to it, even if you have moved to New Company at that
time.
We don't want you to be worried about this; we are confident your EB-2 Green
Card would still be okay and New Company would not have to redo the Green
Card process.
s*****n
发帖数: 350
2
原140有效和新公司要重新走perm 不矛盾啊,
就好比你没有降级, eb2 140 有效的时候换了工作,
新公司不是要走perm 和140 么?
s********c
发帖数: 4152
3
简单来说,只要两个雇主都有意向等你拿到绿卡雇佣你,两个eb都有效。关键在于公司
E****2
发帖数: 247
4
看来我需要把问题再陈述一下:
我们都知道:如果没有降级的事情,在I-485 已上交180 天后,如果换工作,仍可以
拿到绿卡,不需要从头开始,不需要重做任何事。你仍在你原来的类别上排队。排期到
了,你就很快就拿到了。对吧?
但现在的问题是:我们有降级,但其他情况不变 (即I-485 上交180天后换了工作),
那么,换工作后,原来公司的EB2 I-140 还有效吗?即:如果EB2 的排期先current,
我还可以用原公司批了的EB2 的I-140 去relink,从而拿到绿卡吗?the Key
question is: 新公司需要从头开始办一遍吗?(我们都不想在重来一遍,太烦,还耽误
时间。)
原来在板上问过此问题,板上的大家的回答是,新公司需要从头开始,直到I-140 批
下来。才可以relink EB2 的排期。
但现在,我的律师说的就是,不需要从头开始。新公司可以整个take over。对她的回
答,我很疑惑。才来这里问。她甚至说, USCIS 会自动relink你的EB2 的I-140。
我把她的关键的的回答再copy一下。(第一次发帖时,是想给大家看全部的通讯,所以
有点长。)
*****************************************;
All that matters is your I-485 is pending more than 180 days before you
transfer to New Company.
Both your EB-2 and EB-3 I-140s are still valid, no matter what. Once your EB
-2 priority date becomes current again, I was going to request the USCIS
link the pending I-485 back to your EB-2 case (they may do this on their own
anyway since they have your case file and A number and they see you have
two I-140s).
AC-21 (changing Green Card employers) does not change this. In fact, the
purpose of AC-21 is to preserve the underlying I-140. We do advise that your
EB-2 and EB-3 I-140s, both of them, would be okay if New Company took over
your Green card case.
We don't want you to be worried about this; we are confident your EB-2 Green
Card would still be okay and New Company would not have to redo the Green
Card process.
*****************************************************;
Thanks a lot!!

【在 s*****n 的大作中提到】
: 原140有效和新公司要重新走perm 不矛盾啊,
: 就好比你没有降级, eb2 140 有效的时候换了工作,
: 新公司不是要走perm 和140 么?

s********c
发帖数: 4152
5
只要原来的公司愿意帮你出EB2的EVL就有效啊。记住两点1, 绿卡是为未来的职位,2
,原来和降级的两个eb同时有效。

【在 E****2 的大作中提到】
: 看来我需要把问题再陈述一下:
: 我们都知道:如果没有降级的事情,在I-485 已上交180 天后,如果换工作,仍可以
: 拿到绿卡,不需要从头开始,不需要重做任何事。你仍在你原来的类别上排队。排期到
: 了,你就很快就拿到了。对吧?
: 但现在的问题是:我们有降级,但其他情况不变 (即I-485 上交180天后换了工作),
: 那么,换工作后,原来公司的EB2 I-140 还有效吗?即:如果EB2 的排期先current,
: 我还可以用原公司批了的EB2 的I-140 去relink,从而拿到绿卡吗?the Key
: question is: 新公司需要从头开始办一遍吗?(我们都不想在重来一遍,太烦,还耽误
: 时间。)
: 原来在板上问过此问题,板上的大家的回答是,新公司需要从头开始,直到I-140 批

E****2
发帖数: 247
6
谢谢!!
那就是说,我的律师说的,是对的,两个都有效。
什么是EB的EVL, 我还真的不懂这个。能解释一下吗?
多谢!!

2

【在 s********c 的大作中提到】
: 只要原来的公司愿意帮你出EB2的EVL就有效啊。记住两点1, 绿卡是为未来的职位,2
: ,原来和降级的两个eb同时有效。

s******a
发帖数: 297
7
EVL Employment Verification letter

【在 E****2 的大作中提到】
: 谢谢!!
: 那就是说,我的律师说的,是对的,两个都有效。
: 什么是EB的EVL, 我还真的不懂这个。能解释一下吗?
: 多谢!!
:
: 2

m***o
发帖数: 1738
8
really, 可以一直都说是换公司后,就不可以relink回eb2了

2

【在 s********c 的大作中提到】
: 只要原来的公司愿意帮你出EB2的EVL就有效啊。记住两点1, 绿卡是为未来的职位,2
: ,原来和降级的两个eb同时有效。

s********c
发帖数: 4152
9
一般来说,你换了工作,原雇主就不会帮你继续办绿卡了,当然eb2也就没了。楼主这
个不是特殊嘛。

【在 m***o 的大作中提到】
: really, 可以一直都说是换公司后,就不可以relink回eb2了
:
: 2

E****2
发帖数: 247
10
多谢!!
也就是以前说的,只有原雇主不revoke 你的EB2 I-140,它就有效。
但现在,还要提供一个EB的EVL 。

【在 s********c 的大作中提到】
: 一般来说,你换了工作,原雇主就不会帮你继续办绿卡了,当然eb2也就没了。楼主这
: 个不是特殊嘛。

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