n******d
发帖数: 3583 | 1 居然没人帖这个。不过胳膊壮的世界清静了，有得有失未尝不是一个好事 |
p********r
发帖数: 3799 | |
p********r
发帖数: 3799 | 3 早上听到这个消息，觉得对LA很不公平。要是法国也有个什么USADA类似的机构,估计所
有的title都应该清掉。 |
n******d
发帖数: 3583 | 4 没事，他的事迹永远活在人们的心中。就算是在负面的新闻中，一提还是知道他曾经有
7次tour title，LOL
【在 p********r 的大作中提到】
: 早上到现在，正在默哀中....
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p********r
发帖数: 3799 | 5 是的，我也这么认为的...
【在 n******d 的大作中提到】
: 没事，他的事迹永远活在人们的心中。就算是在负面的新闻中，一提还是知道他曾经有
: 7次tour title，LOL
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w********6
发帖数: 12977 | 6 我还是继续葱白他，有些朋友，比如跑步版的欢喜，貌似特别讨厌他，我觉得当时的
doping就是我们的一部分历史，不能单独对胳膊壮太过；
当然，这些组织对他的指控和裁决也无可厚非，可以理解，我就是觉得作为一个运动的
扇子，我还是相信他的确dope了，但是依然喜欢他。 |
z*********n
发帖数: 94654 | 7 dope的复杂过程听了挺吓人的，感觉他真不容易，为了dope费这么大劲
【在 w********6 的大作中提到】
: 我还是继续葱白他，有些朋友，比如跑步版的欢喜，貌似特别讨厌他，我觉得当时的
: doping就是我们的一部分历史，不能单独对胳膊壮太过；
: 当然，这些组织对他的指控和裁决也无可厚非，可以理解，我就是觉得作为一个运动的
: 扇子，我还是相信他的确dope了，但是依然喜欢他。
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g**********r
发帖数: 1654 | 8 Of course France has such agency. And French were actually quite unhappy
when LA won so many titles. So they initiated a time-consuming investigation
against him. But no hard evidence has been found.
【在 p********r 的大作中提到】
: 早上听到这个消息，觉得对LA很不公平。要是法国也有个什么USADA类似的机构,估计所
: 有的title都应该清掉。
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g**********r
发帖数: 1654 | 9 虽然我相信他doping了，可是对于USADA拿不出hard evidence非常介意。这个真的就是
witch hunt，所谓欲加之罪，何患无辞！
对于UCI主席的发言，我只能用鄙视来形容了。真无耻。还好意思让大家忘了LA。丫拿
LA的钱的时候，咋不让大家忘了他呢？！
【在 w********6 的大作中提到】
: 我还是继续葱白他，有些朋友，比如跑步版的欢喜，貌似特别讨厌他，我觉得当时的
: doping就是我们的一部分历史，不能单独对胳膊壮太过；
: 当然，这些组织对他的指控和裁决也无可厚非，可以理解，我就是觉得作为一个运动的
: 扇子，我还是相信他的确dope了，但是依然喜欢他。
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h******2
发帖数: 1498 | 10 LA，以至于整个pro cycling搞到今天这个地步，基本上就是UCI给惯坏的。Rabobank已
经宣布，从此不再sponsor pro cycling，他们的CFO说了，“International cycling
is rotten, including some of its highest institutions.”本来人民就不怎么喜欢
银行，现在银行又是doping的sponsor了。以后大
家看见nike的钩子，就想到doping。
UCI就是个婊子组织，不见棺材不落泪，只有等金主撤钱了才有所作为，现在strip LA
的title，也就是PR damange control而已。
Livestrong的所有大金主都开始撤钱了，等着看更多的sponsor都撤了，那UCI就真哽儿
屁了。 |
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k*******n
发帖数: 567 | 11 虽然那个年代都吃药，但不能成为LA脱罪的理由。
无论如何，LA也是传奇。 |
h*****a
发帖数: 1992 | 12 清静? 恐怕还不行。他有好几个案子，人家都要问他要钱的。都是好几个million.
【在 n******d 的大作中提到】
: 居然没人帖这个。不过胳膊壮的世界清静了，有得有失未尝不是一个好事
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h*****a
发帖数: 1992 | 13 也算是一代枭雄吧
【在 k*******n 的大作中提到】
: 虽然那个年代都吃药，但不能成为LA脱罪的理由。
: 无论如何，LA也是传奇。
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a****t
发帖数: 720 | 14 +1
【在 h*****a 的大作中提到】
: 也算是一代枭雄吧
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n******d
发帖数: 3583 | 15 老壮也得找他们要回借他名气赚的钱，估计只有多，没有少
【在 h*****a 的大作中提到】
: 清静? 恐怕还不行。他有好几个案子，人家都要问他要钱的。都是好几个million.
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O****e
发帖数: 3290 | 16 Rubiera: I never saw Armstrong dope
The only positive news I can find on LA. This guy certainly has my respect.
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/rubiera-i-never-saw-armstrong-d
Ex-Postal domestique calls Michele Ferrari “the best coach there is”
Very few words have been said in defence of Lance Armstrong in recent days,
but his former domestique José Luis Rubiera has declared that he still
views the Texan as the greatest rider of his era. Speaking to El Diario de
Mallorca, Rubiera, who rode with Armstrong at US Postal, Discovery Channel,
Astana and RadioShack, also said that he never saw the American take banned
products and eulogised the ability of controversy-mired coach Michele
Ferrari, calling him “the best coach there is”.
Asked about the accusations laid against Armstrong and the US Postal team in
the USADA dossier, Rubiera responded, “I'm very relaxed about it. They
were very happy years for me. For all those who competed in that era, or for
the immense majority at least, Armstrong was the best. There were great
riders who were close to him such as [Jan] Ullrich, [Ivan] Basso and [Alex]
Zülle, but he was undoubtedly the best and he showed that by winning the
Tour seven times.”
Speaking specifically about doping, Rubiera said, “I never saw him dope.
The regulations are evolving and you have to judge events in each era
according to their context. I think that you have to look to the future and
also judge the sporting quality of a person like Armstrong.”
Rubiera did have some words of criticism, but they were directed not at his
former team leader but at those who have confessed to past misdemeanours. “
They are acting out of personal interest. They recognise that they have done
something and by collaborating they are able to reduce the penalty they
receive.
“They are trying to pay for what they have done with a six-month suspension
when others have had to have a two-year ban. If they are so sorry about
what they have done and want to save cycling, they ought to give the money
they’ve earned to the grassroots of the sport,” said the Spaniard.
Rubiera added that by its very nature professional cycling is not a healthy
sport. “Don’t let the UCI tell me that they are concerned about our health
when we have to ride in 45-degree [Celsius] temperatures up the Tourmalet
after riding 220km the day before and with another 200km to follow the day
after. That’s not healthy,” he said.
Rubiera acknowledged that he had been advised by Michele Ferrari in the past
, and has no reason to hide the fact. “He was and is the best coach.
Training with him had its price. I worked with him for two years and learned
a lot about training and diet, but I decided to leave him because it seemed
very expensive,” said Rubiera. |
m******r
发帖数: 9604 | 17 今天看了一下周日参加的三项赛接力组的成绩。第三名的队伍太有才了，起名叫'
liestrong'. 他们自行车那一棒2:13:34骑完56迈，平均速度25.15mph. 考虑到全程的
75个弯道和15个u-turn，这哥们可真够牛的 |
i*********5
发帖数: 19210 | 18 你还有个接力赛？
【在 m******r 的大作中提到】
: 今天看了一下周日参加的三项赛接力组的成绩。第三名的队伍太有才了，起名叫'
: liestrong'. 他们自行车那一棒2:13:34骑完56迈，平均速度25.15mph. 考虑到全程的
: 75个弯道和15个u-turn，这哥们可真够牛的
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g**********r
发帖数: 1654 | 19 小铁，你的阅读理解呀。。。
【在 i*********5 的大作中提到】
: 你还有个接力赛？
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i*********5
发帖数: 19210 | 20 哈哈哈！看太快了。看成＂下周日还有个接力赛＂。。。
【在 g**********r 的大作中提到】
: 小铁，你的阅读理解呀。。。
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