f*******y
发帖数: 421 | 1 5'7'', inseam 28-29in.based on standover clearance, i choose size 15'. Local
store found two entry levels. will test fit soon. which one will you prefer
in case both fit? I use it for commuting and park hiking. target at a 80
mile round trip trail. Thanks.
Trek7000 $330
http://www.trekbikes.com/us/en/bikes/bike_path/hybrid/7000/
raleigh $320
http://www.raleighusa.com/bikes/hybrid/detour-35/?page=specs
did a online fit, but may not help much since it is for competitive riding.
Thank you for visit |
w******x
发帖数: 4396 | 2 if you plan to ride more than 20 miles on pavement, don't get a hybrid. get
a touring bike, a cyclocross or a proper road bike. |
f*******y
发帖数: 421 | 3 the 80 miles round-trip is an unpavement bike trail, hardtrail? not sure.
but anyway, will a road bike work there? Thanks. |
w******x
发帖数: 4396 | 4 80 miles offroad trips? i hope you have a good idea of what you are trying
to do here. offroad terrains vary wildly in their difficulty. 80 miles on (
even mild) mtb trails is more like 200 miles on road, while 80 miles on rail
trails could be like just 100 miles on pavement.
on one extreme you might want dual suspension to take the edge, while a
roadie with fatter tires will suffice on the other.
so what are you trying to do, really? have you have any experience riding
mtb?
【在 f*******y 的大作中提到】
: the 80 miles round-trip is an unpavement bike trail, hardtrail? not sure.
: but anyway, will a road bike work there? Thanks.
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f*******y
发帖数: 421 | 5 It is a bike trail, quite flat, so maybe so called rail trails. really donot
know these differences. but i know people even ride road bike there. So i
think i may go lower to a hybrid. For me, a hybrid is a road bike with
fatter tire, right?
Is 80 miles too far for a hybrid? since i also want daily commuting, so mtb
maybe too much labor.
thanks. |
w******x
发帖数: 4396 | 6 sounds like a rail trail.
no, a hybrid is not a road bike with fatter tire. it's designed for leisure
riding around the block. no good for riding anything longer than, say, an
hour, because of the geometry.
a touring bike or a cyclocross is much better for what you describe, but
most of them fall outside your price range. look at trek fx or raleigh
cadent instead.
donot
mtb
【在 f*******y 的大作中提到】
: It is a bike trail, quite flat, so maybe so called rail trails. really donot
: know these differences. but i know people even ride road bike there. So i
: think i may go lower to a hybrid. For me, a hybrid is a road bike with
: fatter tire, right?
: Is 80 miles too far for a hybrid? since i also want daily commuting, so mtb
: maybe too much labor.
: thanks.
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f*******y
发帖数: 421 | 7 thanks. just had a test bike of a hybrid trek 7100, comfort cramel 700 and
one road bike. the clerk seems pretty knowledgeable and he thought the trek
will work fine for the 80 miles trip. would you please share your concerns?
road bike is a little challenging for me.may take some time to adapt to the
aerodynamic position. it is so vibrated that i would guess easier to feel
tire on a rail track than a hybrid.looks like touring bike and cyclocross
have the same handbar, so donot know why you thin |
f*******y
发帖数: 421 | 8 do you mean trek 7.2 fx? it is on sale for $399. so acceptable. can you
please explain what make the fx better for long distance than 7000? Also, i
need daily commuting on road as well. thanks. |
w******x
发帖数: 4396 | 9 the bottom line is bikes evolved into their respective forms to suit their
specific purposes. hybrids are simply not evolved to go fast nor go far.
hybrids generally sit upright, so you have a lot weight on your butt and
little on your hands. it's not aero either. over the course of 80 miles,
your rear end will sore, and you will tire out from having to fight the wind
.
front suspension on such a bike is a waste of money, time and energy (yours)
.
the drop bars offer more hand positions than a f
【在 f*******y 的大作中提到】
: thanks. just had a test bike of a hybrid trek 7100, comfort cramel 700 and
: one road bike. the clerk seems pretty knowledgeable and he thought the trek
: will work fine for the 80 miles trip. would you please share your concerns?
: road bike is a little challenging for me.may take some time to adapt to the
: aerodynamic position. it is so vibrated that i would guess easier to feel
: tire on a rail track than a hybrid.looks like touring bike and cyclocross
: have the same handbar, so donot know why you thin
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f*******y
发帖数: 421 | 10 thanks for the help. looks like a $499 trek 7.3 fx is the sweet point in
that line up. thinking... is a drop bar suitable for commuting?
unfortunately, just found that the 7.3 fx is flat bar. should I forget it? |
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w******x
发帖数: 4396 | 11 it's pretty rare to see any drop bar touring bike around this price point.
so you kind of have to stick with flats or get a drop bar roadie.
【在 f*******y 的大作中提到】
: thanks for the help. looks like a $499 trek 7.3 fx is the sweet point in
: that line up. thinking... is a drop bar suitable for commuting?
: unfortunately, just found that the 7.3 fx is flat bar. should I forget it?
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f*******y
发帖数: 421 | 12 so prepare to suffer for the 80 miles. thanks |
f*******y
发帖数: 421 | 13 sth found online forum. quite interesting.trek navigator->7300->fx->touring
bike in just 3 months.sounds like from truck to sedan to sporting car. maybe
i should start from mustang.
how about a trek 1.1 for $600, or a bd one for $360
http://bikesdirect.com/products/windsor/wellington2_IX.htm
will they work well on rail trail comparing to trek fx? i donot have plan
for off-road so far.
Hi Tom,I just started about 3 months ago and I'm affraid everything you said
wont last if your anything like me. |
w******x
发帖数: 4396 | 14 get a trek 1.1, throw on some wider tires, and swap the stem to raise the
handlebar a little. |
f*******y
发帖数: 421 | 15 went to local store again and according to a young clerk, no wider than 28 (
?) tires can be put on a roadbike like trek 1.1, while a cyclocross has much
larger range, so is good for both road and trail. I donot intend to high
speed racing, so looks like a cyclocross works better. one concern is that
my toe touch the wheel when I turn. is it normal for cyclocross? thanks. |
f*******y
发帖数: 421 | 16 the trail i plan to run is limestone covered trail. maybe a problem for road
bike, right? |
w******x
发帖数: 4396 | 17 if the tires are too narrow.
no, toe overlap is not common on cyclocross. it's usually only a problem on
29 inch mtbs. i think your bike shop friend had a mix up.
cyclocross is the most versatile bike around. i've used mine on road, mtb
trails and everything in between.
road
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: the trail i plan to run is limestone covered trail. maybe a problem for road
: bike, right?
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o***e
发帖数: 23 | 18 the measurement of your trunk might be wrong. your inseam is 29in while trunk is 44in. then your height should be at least 83in
10in(head+neck) + 29(part of leg) + 44 (trunk) = 83in.
Local
prefer
Fit
【在 f*******y 的大作中提到】
: 5'7'', inseam 28-29in.based on standover clearance, i choose size 15'. Local
: store found two entry levels. will test fit soon. which one will you prefer
: in case both fit? I use it for commuting and park hiking. target at a 80
: mile round trip trail. Thanks.
: Trek7000 $330
: http://www.trekbikes.com/us/en/bikes/bike_path/hybrid/7000/
: raleigh $320
: http://www.raleighusa.com/bikes/hybrid/detour-35/?page=specs
: did a online fit, but may not help much since it is for competitive riding.
: Thank you for visit
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f*******y
发帖数: 421 | 19 you are right, it should be 24 in. thanks. so the new calculation:
The Competitive Fit
The Eddy Fit
The French Fit
Seat tube range c-c 47.7 - 48.2 48.9 - 49.4 50.6 - 51.1
Seat tube range c-t 49.2 - 49.7 50.4 - 50.9 52.1 - 52.6
Top tube length 49.9 - 50.3 49.9 - 50.3 51.1 - 51.5
Stem Length 9.5 - 10.1 8.4 - 9.0 8.6 - 9.2
BB-Saddle Position 66.6 - 68.6 65.8 - 67.8 64.1 - 66.1
Saddle-Handlebar 45.3 - 45.9 46.1 - 46.7 |
f*******y
发帖数: 421 | 20 if toe overlap is not common, i think i like the cyclocross too. but
cyclocross does shorter than road bikes.
the local store does not have my size cyclocross, the one i tested is size
44 or 48(?, the clerk told me cyclocross has larger size than roadbike, so
it is almost equal to a size 50 road bike, correct?), and i can still feel
the top bar. they can order a smaller one if needed, i want to know if it is
acceptable to have loose contact with top bar.
checked bikesdirect, cannot find any smal |
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f*******y
发帖数: 421 | 21 looks like the only one with small standover is a tourist from bd
http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/windsor/tourist.htm
any comments? |
w******x
发帖数: 4396 | 22 no, that's not correct. either you got him wrong or he's confused himself.
in choosing a cyclocross the conventional wisdom says choose one size
smaller than your road bike size, because the smaller size makes the bike
easier to flip around on a cyclocross course (cyclocross is a category of
racing, btw), and it offers more standover clearance. but that's wisdom from
the days when road bike toptubes were much much higher than modern bikes.
regardless, since you don't plan on racing cyclocross yo
【在 f*******y 的大作中提到】
: if toe overlap is not common, i think i like the cyclocross too. but
: cyclocross does shorter than road bikes.
: the local store does not have my size cyclocross, the one i tested is size
: 44 or 48(?, the clerk told me cyclocross has larger size than roadbike, so
: it is almost equal to a size 50 road bike, correct?), and i can still feel
: the top bar. they can order a smaller one if needed, i want to know if it is
: acceptable to have loose contact with top bar.
: checked bikesdirect, cannot find any smal
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w******x
发帖数: 4396 | 23 pretty decent bike to start with, if it fits you.
【在 f*******y 的大作中提到】
: looks like the only one with small standover is a tourist from bd
: http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/windsor/tourist.htm
: any comments?
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f*******y
发帖数: 421 | 24 sorry i didnot make it clear again. i was trying to say, also the clerk,
that cyclocross is larger than the same size road bike, thus, i should use
smaller size on a cycloross.
it is really a hard time to find a cyclocross/tourist with standover less
than 28 in. what is a double cross? i saw they labeled the cyclocross as tri
-cross. now looks like that there is a family. maybe i should check it out
too since the above bd bike is steel with standover 28.5 in.
thanks. |
f*******y
发帖数: 421 | 25 looks like need to diy for soma double cross. did you buy all stuffs and
install them by yourself? any shared info? |
w******x
发帖数: 4396 | 26 you already know that c2c measurements mean nothing, so your sizing should
go by your (effective) top tube length. what's the correct top tube length
for you? your chart lists between 49cm and 52cm.
i build my own bikes. honestly it's not for the first timers as you need to
invest in tools (not cheap). if you plan to go this route i suggest you get
your bike shop to build it for you. there are places online selling build
kits as well. i can also advise you on the build. note of warning, it costs
【在 f*******y 的大作中提到】
: sorry i didnot make it clear again. i was trying to say, also the clerk,
: that cyclocross is larger than the same size road bike, thus, i should use
: smaller size on a cycloross.
: it is really a hard time to find a cyclocross/tourist with standover less
: than 28 in. what is a double cross? i saw they labeled the cyclocross as tri
: -cross. now looks like that there is a family. maybe i should check it out
: too since the above bd bike is steel with standover 28.5 in.
: thanks.
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f*******y
发帖数: 421 | 27 Thanks for those great questions. I think it is kind of like research, we
never know what we will get. but i enjoy the process. Looks like i have
learn sth. but i really lack of a plan or a firm destination. So for me, it
is more like to learn stuff about cycling. Budge is one constrain to force
me to think carefully: need to be responsible for my investment. Interests
come and go, but the knowledge will keep.I do appreciate your inputs.
Be more realistic, I just need a reliable and cheap cycloc |
w******x
发帖数: 4396 | 28 ok, here are some low budget options.
one, get the windsor tourist, smallest size. it's a good buy, problem is you
don't know how well it fits. standover might be too much.
two, get a mountain bike, swap out knobby tires for narrow slick tires, and
if the need arises, swap out the flat bar for something offering more hand
positions (e.g. http://harriscyclery.net/product/sunlite-north-road-handlebar-2765.htm). it takes more effort to go as fast as a road bike, but it's rugged and offer better sta |
f*******y
发帖数: 421 | 29 or 5, a single speed tourist with drop bar if it exists. Is the shifter
really needed for my application, such as commuting and bike trail? there
are big hills but i can always avoid them. Just donot want to lose big fun
if there are with the shifter. Thanks. |
w******x
发帖数: 4396 | 30 that's rather a niche market item and hard to find. you can look up redline
925. last year's version has mustache handlebars, which are better imo. or
you can buy a redline monocog and do the tire-handlebar swap. i use a very
similar build as my commuter.
there are quite a very nice ones at 600-800.
【在 f*******y 的大作中提到】
: or 5, a single speed tourist with drop bar if it exists. Is the shifter
: really needed for my application, such as commuting and bike trail? there
: are big hills but i can always avoid them. Just donot want to lose big fun
: if there are with the shifter. Thanks.
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f*******y
发帖数: 421 | 31 local craigslist: 2008 Sadona DX Giant mtb for $200, good deal?
maybe a starting point before big investment. any comments? |
w******x
发帖数: 4396 | 32 giant sedona is a hybrid, not a mtb.
【在 f*******y 的大作中提到】
: local craigslist: 2008 Sadona DX Giant mtb for $200, good deal?
: maybe a starting point before big investment. any comments?
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V*****n
发帖数: 893 | 33 this probably the best way to go.
http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/motobecane/uno.htm
all motobecane bikes have standover height available. |
f*******y
发帖数: 421 | 34 thanks. but the smallest one in the website is 49 in with standover 779 mm,
which is still too big for me. do they have even smaller one that is not
listed? |
