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CouchPotato版 - House MD
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s***s
发帖数: 7178
1
哥目前对house这剧的感情就好像多年的邻居
他们家那点儿破事早听丫翻过来覆过去唠叨好多遍了
不可能再有什么新鲜的
但是一旦有点风吹草动的,还是会搬梯子趴墙头偷窥一下
惯性使然
House上集提到父母教育子女问题
认为所有的父母都screw up kids
他这statement是经典的偷换概念
据弗老大经典理论(其实不完全是他的理论,但业余选手往往喜欢拉他的大裤衩做虎皮)
人生出来除了吃就是睡,那奏是一小畜生
长大成人融入社会就是建立超我,压抑本我,形成自我的过程
这个过程的惨烈是不以小破崽子或者父母的个人意志为转移的
对此有怀疑的同学可以上街逮只野猫试着训练丫的定时定点吃饭睡觉拉屎撒尿
there will be blood, trust me
不被screw up就意味着完全听从生存本能,那是无法在当今社会立足的
所以house应该说,grow up = screwed up
但这是P话,用不着他来说
所以编剧一转手就把这屎盆子扣父母头上了
因为每个人成长都会伴随着跟父母冲突的记忆
(往往是青春期,个把早熟的小学里开始,晚的根据非诚勿扰来开,三四十岁还没发生
心理断乳的也不罕见)
这个记忆中的冲突标志着自我的形成个体的觉醒
小破崽子当时做出的决定是对是错不重要
(大多数情况下是错,因为那俩人毕竟比小破崽子吃的盐,走的桥blah blah)
重要的是这个决定不是基于让父母来代替自己思维和作出判断
完全没有例外
如果有人宣称完全没有跟父母决裂的大件事记忆
要么该同学还活在母亲的子宫里,完全算不得独立的人
要么曾经有一场惨烈的事件发生,如此之惨烈以至于当事人通过选择性遗忘的方式来保
护自己
以上属于老邻居的陈芝麻烂谷子,没有任何新鲜血液
但是House最后跟Adams说it's ok to be screwed up.
The problem is to romantize it.
这个还是说出点东西的
就是说一般的狗血是不承认不接受自己曾经被screwed up
而在House这剧里的狗血是小兔崽子们主观上能清晰的意识到被SU的必要性
甚至发展到主动寻求SUed
个把童年不幸,没捞着SUed的孩子比如Dr Adams还得哭着喊着要求被SUed
House大叔一如既往摆出一副大以巴狼似的教育工作者面孔轻声道:dont overdo it
我啰哩罗嗦废话半天想说的就是
别tm老觉得自己跟父母苦大仇深的,说白了咱都是普通青年,
如果你非得文艺得把这本来挺普通的一事泼上桶玫瑰色的油漆,
恭喜你
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l******x
发帖数: 1697
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not all people get screwed up.
95% of people get screwed up and 5% are not. The cruel fact is that the 5%
is so rare that most people the screw-ups run into in life are also screwed-
ups. The 5% has early advantages and are the "amazing winners", whose lives are
naturally separated from most of the screwed-ups by financial barrier/
social status or personal selection. After all, birds like to fly with
similar feathers.
Interesting ratio, the 95:5.
Movies and TV shows such as House M.D. are 95% true to life, but the last 5%
is untrue. The untrue part, such as how Dr. Adams wants to be screwed-up ,
is there to make the 95% people feel better about their 95% status.

皮)

【在 s***s 的大作中提到】
: 哥目前对house这剧的感情就好像多年的邻居
: 他们家那点儿破事早听丫翻过来覆过去唠叨好多遍了
: 不可能再有什么新鲜的
: 但是一旦有点风吹草动的,还是会搬梯子趴墙头偷窥一下
: 惯性使然
: House上集提到父母教育子女问题
: 认为所有的父母都screw up kids
: 他这statement是经典的偷换概念
: 据弗老大经典理论(其实不完全是他的理论,但业余选手往往喜欢拉他的大裤衩做虎皮)
: 人生出来除了吃就是睡,那奏是一小畜生

d**e
发帖数: 9591
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【在 l******x 的大作中提到】
: not all people get screwed up.
: 95% of people get screwed up and 5% are not. The cruel fact is that the 5%
: is so rare that most people the screw-ups run into in life are also screwed-
: ups. The 5% has early advantages and are the "amazing winners", whose lives are
: naturally separated from most of the screwed-ups by financial barrier/
: social status or personal selection. After all, birds like to fly with
: similar feathers.
: Interesting ratio, the 95:5.
: Movies and TV shows such as House M.D. are 95% true to life, but the last 5%
: is untrue. The untrue part, such as how Dr. Adams wants to be screwed-up ,

l******x
发帖数: 1697
4
A psychiatrist that I met in the U.S. told me so.

.
different
if
screwed
lives
up

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l******x
发帖数: 1697
5

.
different
if
Right. Particularly, considering how the parents lived most of their lives
under political pressure and social engineering ...

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s***s
发帖数: 7178
6
not sure how the 5% didn't get screwed up.
not sure why they are winners.
thought God or whoever trained everybody by beating us up
imho, the winners are not immune to screw up
the daily mundane life could screw up normal person like me, but means
nothing to them.
they must experience something much more profound, deeper pain
pain that far beyond my imagination, not to mention taking it
Dr. Adams is not real, the writers are having a hard time to bring her to
life.
run-away-from-home-teenager-cliche? nice try

screwed-
lives are
5%
,

【在 l******x 的大作中提到】
: not all people get screwed up.
: 95% of people get screwed up and 5% are not. The cruel fact is that the 5%
: is so rare that most people the screw-ups run into in life are also screwed-
: ups. The 5% has early advantages and are the "amazing winners", whose lives are
: naturally separated from most of the screwed-ups by financial barrier/
: social status or personal selection. After all, birds like to fly with
: similar feathers.
: Interesting ratio, the 95:5.
: Movies and TV shows such as House M.D. are 95% true to life, but the last 5%
: is untrue. The untrue part, such as how Dr. Adams wants to be screwed-up ,

l******x
发帖数: 1697
7
Reality is hard to swallow, isn't it? :) Denial is much easier.

【在 s***s 的大作中提到】
: not sure how the 5% didn't get screwed up.
: not sure why they are winners.
: thought God or whoever trained everybody by beating us up
: imho, the winners are not immune to screw up
: the daily mundane life could screw up normal person like me, but means
: nothing to them.
: they must experience something much more profound, deeper pain
: pain that far beyond my imagination, not to mention taking it
: Dr. Adams is not real, the writers are having a hard time to bring her to
: life.

s***s
发帖数: 7178
8
oh yeah, reality hurts
and denial is definitely helpful
the question is what's more helpful
denial of reality or denial of fairy tale?
I guess it doesn't matter, as long as it works.

【在 l******x 的大作中提到】
: Reality is hard to swallow, isn't it? :) Denial is much easier.
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Re: 原来Couch Potato是这个意思啊.###此帖已应当事人要求删除###
I am so sick of love songs, so tired of tears...漫长等待之前的最后一集DH
哈哈。。John这集虽然这次screwed up 了。。Tonight's DH - Sunday
this season on Project runway...昨晚的lost
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