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z******2
发帖数: 1907
1
周末去了NEWPORT, RI的几个MANSION
the breakers
the elms
rosecliff
etc
至少前两个都是vanderbilt家族修建的
the breakers是大宅里面最恢弘奢华的
地面,墙壁,天花板都是大理石,玉石,丝绸,金,白金还有油画;随处都是艺术品
真的很震撼。
听着耳机里断断续续的讲解,让我更加对vanderbilt家族的兴衰感到好奇
这个家族必定鼎盛一时,所以才能够挥金如土,修建这么多summer "cottage"
但追踪没落,使得他们无法持续拥有这些豪宅而选择赠送给preservation society。
在网上研究了一下这个家族。
这个网站的介绍帮助理清了家族的脉络
http://www.businessinsider.com/presenting-a-history-of-the-vand
拷贝如下 (网站有图片)
给个中文摘要:
很早来带NY的DUTCH移民,发家始祖的上三代都是劳苦LABOR。
发家始祖本身没文化,11岁辍学,跟着父亲干活。
后来从母亲那里借了100美金,自己买了一艘船跑运输。
逐渐发达起来,成了船运巨头,又建立了铁路帝国。
11个子女,只有2个儿子,死后把95%财产都给了大儿子继承。
就这样其他子女也得到了目前价值几百个MILLION的遗产。
大儿子将事业DOUBLE了。
从第三代开始不行了,纨绔子弟
现代有名的V家族成员:一个fashion designer and writer,
她的儿子现在是个媒体人(主持人)
剩下的只有各处大宅佐证着V家族昔日的恢弘
What sets this brood apart is how long they've been in America — and how
little of their industrial empire remains.
But while their financial holdings may have faded away, the physical
remnants of their wealth stretch the length of the East Coast.
The Vanderbilts have been in New York since the 17th century.
The Vanderbilts have been in New York since the 17th century.
Wikimedia
Their American patriarch, Jan Aertsen Van Der Bilt, was in the city at least
by 1651, the year his son Aris' name appears in the registry of the Dutch
Reformed Church in Brooklyn (which still stands).
By the time Cornelius Vanderbilt was born in 1794, the family was
practically destitute.
By the time Cornelius Vanderbilt was born in 1794, the family was
practically destitute.
OilPaintingsArt.com
His father was a local sea merchant. One author has written that the 18th
century Vanderbilts were "a miserable set of farmers, fishermen and laborers
, noses close to the grindstone and the clods never shaken off their boots
— when they could afford boots."
However, Cornelius senior is described as a "very handsome man," and he was
able to marry above his station.
Cornelius was illiterate, and remained so for most of his life.
Cornelius was illiterate, and remained so for most of his life.
The Bowery Boys
He was removed from school at age 11 to assist his father's river shipping
business.
Instead, he valued physical prowess.
Instead, he valued physical prowess.
Smithsonian
He preferred sailing and dressage. "Even his worst critics admitted that he
never made any pretense to being a gentleman," Renehan writes.
Cornelius' initial business was shipbuilding; this earned him the nickname "
Commodore."
Cornelius' initial business was shipbuilding; this earned him the nickname "
Commodore."
wikipedia
Already at the age of 23 he ran a profitable business delivering freight via
waterway. By his 40s he was a full-blown shipping magnate.
This did not exactly translate into mannered behavior. He was "defined in
the public eye by his undisguised, undignified and ravenous hunger for
increased wealth " and "near-legendary status as a self-absorbed boor and
braggart, intent on self-glorification, and devoid of generosity."
And yet: Vanderbilt's success was considered emblematic of what was possible
in America.
And yet: Vanderbilt's success was considered emblematic of what was possible
in America.
Never Enough History
From the London Daily News:
"America was not known four centuries ago; yet she turns out her Vanderbilts
, mall and large, every year....The great feature to be noticed in America
is that its citizens have full permission to run the race in which Mr.
Vanderbilt has gained such immense prizes."
Cornelius' final investment was in railroads.
Cornelius' final investment was in railroads.
Wikispaces
When Cornelius died in 1877, he left 95% of his fortune — nearly $150
billion in 2005 dollars — to Billy.
Billy gamely took up the relay, expanding the railroad empire to the Midwest.
Billy gamely took up the relay, expanding the railroad empire to the Midwest.
Wikimedia
He also built what became the world's most famous railway depot, Grand
Central Terminal, in 1871.
A statue of Billy's father beckons travelers in front of the building.
Other sons-in-law also had their own success in expanding the rail empire.
But the family's commercial exploits began to stall in the 20th century.
But the family's commercial exploits began to stall in the 20th century.
Wikimedia
Alfred Gwynne Vanderbilt
从第三代开始,不行了,都是纨绔子弟
Pick any of the male Vanderbilts after Billy. You'll find they excel at...
inheriting.
William Kissam (b. 1849): "His stock operations, therefore, were planned on
a large scale, and he made some daring and brilliant moves. He was cornered
at last, however, and was obliged to have recourse to his father for help
out of his difficulties. After this experience he gave up operations in Wall
street, and confined his financial energies strictly to railroad interests."
Alfred Gwynne (b. 1877): "Social entertainment given or received, was by no
means the whole of his career. Mr. Vanderbilt was an expert whip, and
whether tooling a coach along the roads of this country or enjoying his
favorite pastime in England, he was always a genial and enthusiastic
sportsman."
Harold Stirling (b. 1884): "Vanderbilt’s fame was not so much in
railroading as it was in two recreational activities, one active and one not
so active."
There was less pressure on the women. Whether in spite or because of this,
they seem to have had better sense.
There was less pressure on the women. Whether in spite or because of this,
they seem to have had better sense.
Wikimedia
Alva (b. 1853) — who married into the family — was a heavyweight in the
women's suffrage movement.
Consuelo (b. 1877) married Winston Churchill's cousin and remained lifelong
friends with the future Prime Minster.
Gertrude (b. 1875) married into the Whitney family and helped found the
Whitney Museum.
The advent of the Interstate Highway System proved the death knell of the
Vanderbilts' industrial rail empire.
The advent of the Interstate Highway System proved the death knell of the
Vanderbilts' industrial rail empire.
Wikimedia
Why do you think we have Amtrak now?
Luckily, the many billions built up by Cornelius were still floating around.
Luckily, the many billions built up by Cornelius were still floating around.
Sagamore Racing
Sagamore Farm, M.D., owned by the family.
If you weren't a champion polo player, sailor or autoracer, you weren't
living up to the family name.
现代有名的V家族成员
In contemporary times, the most relevant Vanderbilt remains Gloria.
In contemporary times, the most relevant Vanderbilt remains Gloria.
Wikimedia
She was raised by her aunt, the aforementioned Gertrude, after her "raucous"
mother lost a custody battle. Eventually she cut her mother off entirely.
Trained as an artist, Gloria ended up signing major designer contracts for
jeans and perfume.
Trained as an artist, Gloria ended up signing major designer contracts for
jeans and perfume.
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She continued writing and painting on the side.
In 1963, she married author Wyatt Cooper. They had two children, Carter...
...And Anderson.这个Anderson是个媒体人
Anderson's youth proved tragic.
His father died from heart surgery complications when Anderson was 11.
Ten years later, his brother committed suicide. The family maintains the act
was a result of an acute psychotic episode brought on by an allergic
reaction.
The principal legacy of the Vanderbilts are the massive, opulent homes they
built. These include...
剩下的只有各处大宅
wh
发帖数: 141625
2
我看过一个,大概是the breakers. 沿海风景真好。

【在 z******2 的大作中提到】
: 周末去了NEWPORT, RI的几个MANSION
: the breakers
: the elms
: rosecliff
: etc
: 至少前两个都是vanderbilt家族修建的
: the breakers是大宅里面最恢弘奢华的
: 地面,墙壁,天花板都是大理石,玉石,丝绸,金,白金还有油画;随处都是艺术品
: 真的很震撼。
: 听着耳机里断断续续的讲解,让我更加对vanderbilt家族的兴衰感到好奇

z******2
发帖数: 1907
3
你没被里面的奢华所震慑?

【在 wh 的大作中提到】
: 我看过一个,大概是the breakers. 沿海风景真好。
P****9
发帖数: 2294
4
也曾去看过你所说的这几个,这些Manshion,确实里面是非常的奢华,但仔细想来,他
们的这些大house其实是建给他们的管家和仆人的,他们自己在里面每年只住一两个月
而已,并且这些房屋的主人大都寿命不长,很怀疑是否跟所用石料有关,毕竟这些大理
石等都有较强的放射性。
比如The ELMs 的主人Berwinds自己没有子嗣,最后将房子留给了自己的妹妹。
The Breakers的主人Cornelius Vanderbilt II,在房子建好后的第四年因病去世,(
1895年建好,1899年去世,仅55岁)。
Marble House还有一个Chinese Tea House,不过真正的主人也是没有在哪里住过几年.
..
仔细听那些讲解也还是蛮有意思的。

【在 z******2 的大作中提到】
: 周末去了NEWPORT, RI的几个MANSION
: the breakers
: the elms
: rosecliff
: etc
: 至少前两个都是vanderbilt家族修建的
: the breakers是大宅里面最恢弘奢华的
: 地面,墙壁,天花板都是大理石,玉石,丝绸,金,白金还有油画;随处都是艺术品
: 真的很震撼。
: 听着耳机里断断续续的讲解,让我更加对vanderbilt家族的兴衰感到好奇

t*****e
发帖数: 2228
5
我比较喜欢的是breakers和marble house, 对elms没啥感觉,里面主要是画没啥别的
装潢。

【在 z******2 的大作中提到】
: 周末去了NEWPORT, RI的几个MANSION
: the breakers
: the elms
: rosecliff
: etc
: 至少前两个都是vanderbilt家族修建的
: the breakers是大宅里面最恢弘奢华的
: 地面,墙壁,天花板都是大理石,玉石,丝绸,金,白金还有油画;随处都是艺术品
: 真的很震撼。
: 听着耳机里断断续续的讲解,让我更加对vanderbilt家族的兴衰感到好奇

z******2
发帖数: 1907
6
我写作了,marble也是V家的,ELMS是别人家的吧
感觉V家的都是镶金带银,暴发户风格

【在 t*****e 的大作中提到】
: 我比较喜欢的是breakers和marble house, 对elms没啥感觉,里面主要是画没啥别的
: 装潢。

z******2
发帖数: 1907
7
仆人管家住在地下室或者3楼4楼,没有开放参观
但是听见耳机里一个仆人的孩子(现在老太太)口述:居住条件很恶劣
仆人们虽然很多,但他们要做到invisible
比如洗完衣服,放回主任房间衣柜,要做到像变魔术一样,主任根本注意不到仆人做事
她们都是趁主人出去时候,而且都走的狭长的小通道。
主任小孩们的一天:
上午去BEACH
中午会叫
下午去骑马。。。
每天都换4,5套衣服
浴缸里还可以流出海水
你有点自我矛盾
说只住一两个月,但是还说都被里面辐射死了

年.

【在 P****9 的大作中提到】
: 也曾去看过你所说的这几个,这些Manshion,确实里面是非常的奢华,但仔细想来,他
: 们的这些大house其实是建给他们的管家和仆人的,他们自己在里面每年只住一两个月
: 而已,并且这些房屋的主人大都寿命不长,很怀疑是否跟所用石料有关,毕竟这些大理
: 石等都有较强的放射性。
: 比如The ELMs 的主人Berwinds自己没有子嗣,最后将房子留给了自己的妹妹。
: The Breakers的主人Cornelius Vanderbilt II,在房子建好后的第四年因病去世,(
: 1895年建好,1899年去世,仅55岁)。
: Marble House还有一个Chinese Tea House,不过真正的主人也是没有在哪里住过几年.
: ..
: 仔细听那些讲解也还是蛮有意思的。

t*****e
发帖数: 2228
8
超豪华,唯一的遗憾是bedroom没那么豪华,不然就perfect了。

【在 z******2 的大作中提到】
: 我写作了,marble也是V家的,ELMS是别人家的吧
: 感觉V家的都是镶金带银,暴发户风格

z******2
发帖数: 1907
9
确实没有一楼豪华
不过bedroom的墙上都是丝绸,好多都已经破损了
V男主人的浴缸是一整块MARBEL做出来的
水龙头里可以流出加热的海水

【在 t*****e 的大作中提到】
: 超豪华,唯一的遗憾是bedroom没那么豪华,不然就perfect了。
t*****e
发帖数: 2228
10
有没有人觉得他女儿像anne hathaway? 画像真的太像了,可惜不能拍照。

【在 z******2 的大作中提到】
: 确实没有一楼豪华
: 不过bedroom的墙上都是丝绸,好多都已经破损了
: V男主人的浴缸是一整块MARBEL做出来的
: 水龙头里可以流出加热的海水

t*****e
发帖数: 2228
11
好像elms有个单独的tour可以去看仆人的房间,不过仆人确实过的比较凄凉。

【在 z******2 的大作中提到】
: 仆人管家住在地下室或者3楼4楼,没有开放参观
: 但是听见耳机里一个仆人的孩子(现在老太太)口述:居住条件很恶劣
: 仆人们虽然很多,但他们要做到invisible
: 比如洗完衣服,放回主任房间衣柜,要做到像变魔术一样,主任根本注意不到仆人做事
: 她们都是趁主人出去时候,而且都走的狭长的小通道。
: 主任小孩们的一天:
: 上午去BEACH
: 中午会叫
: 下午去骑马。。。
: 每天都换4,5套衣服

b**g
发帖数: 588
12
去过两回,就是美国版的土豪。钱多,暴发户的写照。
z******2
发帖数: 1907
13
看完这个再看故宫啥的
就是一堆烂木头!

【在 b**g 的大作中提到】
: 去过两回,就是美国版的土豪。钱多,暴发户的写照。
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