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发帖数: 18403 | 1 【 以下文字转载自 LosAngeles 讨论区 】
发信人: afeifei (afeifei), 信区: LosAngeles
标 题: 在社区论坛上发布反对 Jimmy 和 ABC 公开信时遭遇犹太裔 抗议
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Nov 6 12:14:48 2013, 美东)
发布了公开信在社区论坛上，为了让更多人知道此事。 收到几个支持，大部分来自华
人。
今天收到犹太裔 抗议。全文如下：
THIS IS NOT THE APPROPRIATE PLACE FOR THIS TYPE OF DIALOGUE! I am a bleeding
heart liberal who believes in tolerance and pluralism. There are far too
many instances of racism/mass slaughter/inexcusable systematic infringements
on human and civil rights in this world. But this is NOT the forum to air
my or your outrage on any given topic -- save for maybe something having to
do with the community. There are many other outlets for this. I absolutely
understand your fury and Kimmel's comments were outrageous. However, there
is NO similarity WHATSOEVER between his comments and the complex interplay
of circumstances and rhetoric that led up to the Jewish holocaust during
World War II. If you want to talk about offense -- I, the descendant of Nazi
camp survivors and my husband, who had a whole arm of his family wiped out
by the Nazis, take utter offense to your casual use of this comparison.
There have certainly been many, many other instances of ethnic cleansing
committed -- to list even a fraction of them is not necessary. While none
are identical, there are indeed many similarities. The Kimmel incident is
not even a tiny bit close.
或许我们不该用犹太人的历史在公开场合下比较。这对他们也是个 Offense
该封公开信好象是某地游行时的宣传单。
全文如下：
An Open Letter To ABC And The Walt Disney Company
Today we get together to express our outrage, concern and
disappointment brought by the Kids Table Show - Government Shutdown
from Jimmy Kimmel Live by ABC, aired on Oct 16, 2013. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9HIKCHRYSM&feature=youtu.be

In the show, one kid, when being asked how to avoid paying Chinese debts,
answered “kill everyone in China”. Everyone including Jimmy Kimmel laughed
. Jimmy Kimmel further commented that "This is an interesting idea!" Later
on, Jimmy Kimmel brought up this subject again and specifically asked "
should we allow Chinese to live". And the show ended in laughter.
We request ABC to fire Jimmy Kimmel and issue a formal apology to ALL of its
viewers. This show promotes hatred, racism and violence, and particularly,
delivers toxic messages to our next generation. This is NOT FUNNY. Joking
with genocide in a public show is unacceptable; joking with genocide of a
particular race in a public show is zero-tolerable. It crosses the line in a
civilized society. Similar “joke” on Jews was laughed off in 1930s in
Germany, and we all know what happened later.
We are especially offended because this show used innocent children to
spread thoughts that some adults dared not speak by themselves. Even more,
it delivers messages to kids that 1) you can solve your own problem by
killing other people; 2) you have the right to allow other people to live or
not. We should teach our children to LOVE, NOT to KILL. We have seen
violence far too many times in schools. If such irresponsible behaviors of
the media cannot be stopped, we will have another Sandy Hook tragedy soon.
Chinese communities are organizing other protests and activities including
boycotting Disney and filing a lawsuit until our requests appropriately
answered. Today we stand here to speak out not only for ourselves, but also
for all children, and for a better society that Dr. Martin Luther King had
dreamed. Thank you for your attention to this matter.
Sincerely,
Concerned Citizens | o**********e
发帖数: 18403 | 2 The parallel with Holocaust is not only the "kill everyone in China" comment
. The parallel started when Jimmy Kimmel while supposedly talking about
government shutdown, asked the loaded question: "We owe the Chinese a lot of
money, 1.3 trillion dollars." then he invited the little kids to come up
with solutions and led to the notorious line "kill everyone in China".
This is called "race scapegoating", or "race baiting". The US holds 10+
trillion dollar debt and $50 trillion unfunded liabilities, to many
countries and to it's own people. Yet the Chinese debt is cited as cause
for special concern, gets the blame for goverment shutdown.
Before Holocaust, the Nazis did exactly the same kind of media manipulation,
scapegoating Jews for the defeat in WW I, for the war debts demanded by the
French, for the Weimar inflation, for everything. This kind of rhetoric
paved the way for Kristallnacht then to Holocaust. The road to gas chambers
started with a simple "blame-the-Jew" rhetoric device, continued to "kill-
every-Jew" joking stage, finally it became Holocaust, a human tragedy.
That is why we make the parallel. First it was "blame-the-Chinese" for
everything, then it's "kill every Chinese" jokes that seems acceptable to a
lot of people. This is where we draw the line. Cause and effect and
parallels are so indisputable that we must draw the line.
http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/CivilSociety/41.html | b*******a
发帖数: 73 | 3 那只能告诉他中国人在二战过程中被日本人屠杀了多少，那不是种族清洗是什么？还有
犹太人在上海得到了很多帮助。 | m*****o
发帖数: 259 | 4 True...
This analogy is offending the Jewish people.
Ah... Well, we can cease using this analogy but they should give us their
help.
bleeding
infringements
【在 o**********e 的大作中提到】
: The parallel with Holocaust is not only the "kill everyone in China" comment
: . The parallel started when Jimmy Kimmel while supposedly talking about
: government shutdown, asked the loaded question: "We owe the Chinese a lot of
: money, 1.3 trillion dollars." then he invited the little kids to come up
: with solutions and led to the notorious line "kill everyone in China".
: This is called "race scapegoating", or "race baiting". The US holds 10+
: trillion dollar debt and $50 trillion unfunded liabilities, to many
: countries and to it's own people. Yet the Chinese debt is cited as cause
: for special concern, gets the blame for goverment shutdown.
: Before Holocaust, the Nazis did exactly the same kind of media manipulation,
| m***o
发帖数: 1367 | 5 I hope the original poster will copy your answer to the the objector.
comment
of
manipulation,
【在 o**********e 的大作中提到】
: The parallel with Holocaust is not only the "kill everyone in China" comment
: . The parallel started when Jimmy Kimmel while supposedly talking about
: government shutdown, asked the loaded question: "We owe the Chinese a lot of
: money, 1.3 trillion dollars." then he invited the little kids to come up
: with solutions and led to the notorious line "kill everyone in China".
: This is called "race scapegoating", or "race baiting". The US holds 10+
: trillion dollar debt and $50 trillion unfunded liabilities, to many
: countries and to it's own people. Yet the Chinese debt is cited as cause
: for special concern, gets the blame for goverment shutdown.
: Before Holocaust, the Nazis did exactly the same kind of media manipulation,
| j****y
发帖数: 1714 | 6 you will face yes or no for any protest.
simply say, I respectfully disagree with your personal opinion. But I
maintain my opinions also and wish you can respect my rights.
bleeding
infringements
【在 o**********e 的大作中提到】
: The parallel with Holocaust is not only the "kill everyone in China" comment
: . The parallel started when Jimmy Kimmel while supposedly talking about
: government shutdown, asked the loaded question: "We owe the Chinese a lot of
: money, 1.3 trillion dollars." then he invited the little kids to come up
: with solutions and led to the notorious line "kill everyone in China".
: This is called "race scapegoating", or "race baiting". The US holds 10+
: trillion dollar debt and $50 trillion unfunded liabilities, to many
: countries and to it's own people. Yet the Chinese debt is cited as cause
: for special concern, gets the blame for goverment shutdown.
: Before Holocaust, the Nazis did exactly the same kind of media manipulation,
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