n*e
发帖数: 34 | 1 首先道歉是不够的。既然Paula Deen, Rick Sanchez都下台了，为什么ABC/Jimmy
Kimmel道歉就过去了。 第二，Jimmy Kimmel道歉的时候，谈到他下台，说那是
impossible,就觉得我们没多大能量。第三，有朋友认为我们把Kimmel下台作为目标，
没达到，反而示弱了。我觉得华人政治上软弱的印象已经形成了，we really have
nothing to lose.
onetiemyshoe列的各项（http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/CivilSociety/1671.html）都很好，但是我觉得都是长远要做的，现在让Kimmel下台还是唯一能团结最大多数人的。
Jimmy Kimmel是个relatively big star, 不那么好动，但是愚公移山，we never know
if we don't try. 建立组织，讨论最有效的对策都很好，但是对个人来说，nothing
replaces action.我听过一个人讲他以前不知道自己每天做的事有什么意义，feel
confused and depressed,后来他发现自己每天捡四个街上乱扔的垃圾袋清理干净，就
觉得自己每天做了something unmistakably good. 我打算有时间就做一点力所能及的
，make the positive change, no matter how small. |
r****9
发帖数: 4961 | |
o**********e
发帖数: 18403 | 3 我不反对把"Fire Kimmel" 当近期目标。 但是当务之急是 create a social network
that connect and synchronize. Say we need to boycott Disney or a ABC
sponsor company. Should we scatter our complaints or concentrate our
complaints on 1 company for any length of time until they give up? Note:
1 complaint/day * 365 days << 365 complaints/day*1 day
The latter gets a lot more attention. Because people always extrapolate
and when they see 365 complaints in a single day, they extrapolate into the
future and decided to not to fight you any more.
In other words: connect and synchronize. Please recruit 5 people, and ask
each of these 5 people to recruit 5 people, so on and on.
Once we have 300 people, we decide on a single day and target a company with
our complaints. This is our first exercise as an assertive social network.
Also, we should prefer constructive effort over destructive effort. I'd
rather help publicize a Chinese comedian like Joe Wong than trying to
destroy Kimmel's career, in normal circumstances. It's better to make
friends than make enemies, in normal circumstances. 有破更要有立。
However, in this case, I think Kimmel actually wanted to lose his job and
also I'll be happy to help him find a minimal wage job in China, so that he
could be a happy creditor (be paid $1000) instead being in debt (for $40000
mostly to US investors/pension funds/other creditors) and having the
government shutdown on him. He will have the
peace he wants
so much, and not have to deal with little kids with whom he doesn't even
agree.
Hence, our effort to get Kimmel fired from ABC is a very constructive effort
. Joe Wong would probably be happy to entertain his fans while he's
working hard in China. Everyone's happy and win-win all around! |
n*e
发帖数: 34 | 4 I agree it's better if we can coordinate. I'll check with Investigate Jimmy
Kimmel on facebook to see if we can create a group. Personally I don't have
much against Jimmy Kimmel himself. ABC terminating him won't destroy his
career and he'll do his show somewhere else. It's only about holding him
responsible for his action. |
o**********e
发帖数: 18403 | 5 强RE:
> It's only about holding him responsible for his action. |
a*******n
发帖数: 96 | |
z***i
发帖数: 212 | 7 Support! Exactly what we should do right now.
know
nothing
【在 n*e 的大作中提到】
: 首先道歉是不够的。既然Paula Deen, Rick Sanchez都下台了，为什么ABC/Jimmy
: Kimmel道歉就过去了。 第二，Jimmy Kimmel道歉的时候，谈到他下台，说那是
: impossible,就觉得我们没多大能量。第三，有朋友认为我们把Kimmel下台作为目标，
: 没达到，反而示弱了。我觉得华人政治上软弱的印象已经形成了，we really have
: nothing to lose.
: onetiemyshoe列的各项（http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/CivilSociety/1671.html）都很好，但是我觉得都是长远要做的，现在让Kimmel下台还是唯一能团结最大多数人的。
: Jimmy Kimmel是个relatively big star, 不那么好动，但是愚公移山，we never know
: if we don't try. 建立组织，讨论最有效的对策都很好，但是对个人来说，nothing
: replaces action.我听过一个人讲他以前不知道自己每天做的事有什么意义，feel
: confused and depressed,后来他发现自己每天捡四个街上乱扔的垃圾袋清理干净，就
|
l****h
发帖数: 271 | 8 there is one already
https://www.facebook.com/groups/chinese.in.usa/
https://www.facebook.com/events/742672232414801
Jimmy
have
【在 n*e 的大作中提到】
: I agree it's better if we can coordinate. I'll check with Investigate Jimmy
: Kimmel on facebook to see if we can create a group. Personally I don't have
: much against Jimmy Kimmel himself. ABC terminating him won't destroy his
: career and he'll do his show somewhere else. It's only about holding him
: responsible for his action.
|
n*e
发帖数: 34 | |
T*********8
发帖数: 1221 | 10 最大的阻力是台湾公共事务会这个不折不扣的台湾流亡政府，这个势力有能力在美国国
会操纵与台湾关系法，台湾安全法，对ABC，CNN 的媒体操纵工作做得极其细致。
一个极其简单的例子是，同样是毒食品事件，在美国市场更大，更危害公共安全的台湾
毒食品，就是能在美国媒体全部封杀。这个工作，不是一天赞助一点钱，送几个女友，
就能办到的。是台湾企业长期在美国媒体合法的使钱的成果。
美国和俄罗斯对流亡政府历来都是零容忍，这个从一国两制的完全失败也可以看出。必
须明确纠正一个错误概念，流亡政府不是谁扶植起来的，而是流亡分子自己顽固的内因
促成的，所以不要妄想对美国施加压力去解决台独和轮子的问题。台独和轮子对在美大
陆人的监控，积极性，主观能动性，猖狂性，都是内因的疯狂，尤其是法轮功这个不折
不扣的邪教的疯狂。
在美300万大陆人这个一盘散沙的鸟样，现状就是在知名度上被轮子占了上风。在这个
签名事件中，台狗和轮子拼命在瓦解破坏，美国媒体集体拒绝报道。而同时轮子自己又
发动了一轮宣传攻势，马路上的标语牌子上，饭店的窗户上，轮子的“先进文化”，所
谓“神韵”，在这个时期又铺天盖地的出现了。对老子的发言的封杀，电脑的攻击，又
达到了一个新的高度。 |
M***O
发帖数: 3718 | 11 I think this is tough because he never said "kill...." himself. |
z****1
发帖数: 1103 | |
P*********t
发帖数: 4451 | |
