d******o
发帖数: 2489 | 1 骗了两次不够嘛，还有人在幻想？
1，节目取消,
2，解雇 Kimmel,
3，公布节目内容审查政策
如果第一个星期 DISNEY/ABC就把Kimmel炒掉，哪有后边这么多幺蛾子。
现在炒掉这个惹祸精合同工，撑死了赔他损失$9.2m，抵死尼还能够挽回点形象，拖越
久烂疮越大，到时候就是100米的损失了，这么简单的账，为啥DISNEY/ABC就算不清呢 | c******n
发帖数: 2439 | | d******o
发帖数: 2489 | 3 Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice shame on me.
我看哪，有的朋友是，被骗20次也不会明白。 | o**********e
发帖数: 18403 | 4 是。 你们的决定我总是尊重的。 Some people choose to be right, others
choose to be right and happy and do the trade-off.
不过要想好， 别人问：“Jimmy Kimmel/ABC apologized already, what more do you
really want?" We need to say: "here's why we don't think his apology was
sincere... here's what we think a real apology would look like... firing
Kimmel would look sincere". Personally as you know, I think there are
alternative sincere gestures, but that's just me.
http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/CivilSociety/1615.html
If others ask:"Jimmy Kimmel tried to convince the little kid not to kill all
the Chinese, why
do you target him so harshly?". Then we need to answer: "Go watch the
video, he manipulated the little kid in the beginning by implying China's
comparatively small US-debt holding was to blame for the US government
shutdown. And he repeatedly claimed "killing everyone in China" was a joke
by a little kid. Even though the suggestion was unscripted, the whole
episode was edited and passed off as a joke by adults on his team. He was
the face for the whole episode, the only adult on the show, the manipulator
on the show, and therefore should take responsibility."
If others ask: "Respect freedom of speech for the little kid." Then we need
to answer: "We do not target the little kid. It's Disney's freedom of
speech to sell to the Chinese as a friend, even going so far as to add
special positive Chinese characters into IronMan III for the Chinese market.
Then they allowed this
freedom of speech by Kimmel to blame China for US government shutdown, and
to share a cheap laugh at a little kid saying "kill everyone in China". It'
s our freedom of speech to point
out the hypocrisy of Disney, and tell them to be true friends or be
boycotted. True friends don't joke about killing everyone of their
friends, right I hope?
总之, 我的目标跟你不一样， 我不想要证明自己对还是错， 不想证明别人对还是错
， 甚至不想证明Kimmel对还是错， 他是不是被FIRE 也不是我的目标。 My goal is
to know myself and to know others. I think this past month was very
educational, to say the least. We appreciate all the hard work by you and
the other organizers, and want to keep reaching for our ultimate goal, which
has nothing to do with Kimmel, but our own participation in our community
and our world. We may have differences in opinion, but I still support you
. | l*******g
发帖数: 27064 | 5 华裔被左逼们骗了多少年了
国内被左共骗，这边被左逼媒体和左逼民猪党骗
早就形成脑补机制了
骗骗更健康
继续做民猪党无脑拥趸 | z****n
发帖数: 1379 | 6 支持，下面有什么行动，要帮忙的说一声
【在 d******o 的大作中提到】
: 骗了两次不够嘛，还有人在幻想？
: 1，节目取消,
: 2，解雇 Kimmel,
: 3，公布节目内容审查政策
: 如果第一个星期 DISNEY/ABC就把Kimmel炒掉，哪有后边这么多幺蛾子。
: 现在炒掉这个惹祸精合同工，撑死了赔他损失$9.2m，抵死尼还能够挽回点形象，拖越
: 久烂疮越大，到时候就是100米的损失了，这么简单的账，为啥DISNEY/ABC就算不清呢
| i******b
发帖数: 1780 | 7 The issue was Jimmy commented "it is an interesting idea" after kid claimed
to kill all Chinese. If the kid would say to kill all blacks because too
many of them claim benefits and bring down the economy, then would Jim
continue to say "it is an interesting idea" or ask kids "are we going to
kill all the blacks" ? And in this situation, even if Jim said so, ABC
would
not dare to let that program come out if it apparently offends the blacks
and political correctness. So why did ABC treat different races with
contrary attitude? Is it because Asian people or Chinese people are nicer
or
have fewer crime rate? Shame on you ABC and that Moron Jimmy must be fired. | i******b
发帖数: 1780 | 8 The issue was Jimmy commented "it is an interesting idea" after kid claimed
to kill all Chinese. If the kid would say to kill all blacks because too
many of them claim benefits and bring down the economy, then would Jim
continue to say "it is an interesting idea" or ask kids "are we going to
kill all the blacks" ? And in this situation, even if Jim said so, ABC
would
not dare to let that program come out if it apparently offends the blacks
and political correctness. So why did ABC treat different races with
contrary attitude? Is it because Asian people or Chinese people are nicer
or
have fewer crime rate? Shame on you ABC and that Moron Jimmy must be fired. | o**********e
发帖数: 18403 | 9 In general, I'd rather have a friend than have an enemy.
In other words, I'd rather Disney/JK be my friend than be my enemy. However
, if Disney is going to be a backstabbing friend who's nice to me to my face
, then laughs behind my back about killing my family and countrymen, well,
No thank you. | f******k
发帖数: 904 | | h****n
发帖数: 1025 | 11 Cut off the show may help, but far from enough.
We need fight against ABC and Disney from the financial aspect.
They won't feel the pain before they lose their dollars! | s**********r
发帖数: 286 | 12 你想不明白，因为DISNEY不是中国人的公司，也不是专为中国人开的！
谈到经济利益，DISNEY的想法可能有二：
1，该道歉的都道歉了，中国政府到现在也没抗议，说明不是所有中国人都纠结于一个6
岁的孩子在一个搞笑的节目上放的臭屁。中国政府不抗议，说明经济损失不会太大。
2，该道歉的都道歉了，如果有人依然不依不饶，那就让他们搞去，因为这么一个笑话
就把道歉两次的Kimmel炒掉，DISNEY还怎么能屹立于江湖？就是把中国的在建项目关了
，也决不退步！
事情闹了快一个月了，DISNEY没讨论过怎么应对是不可能的，所以，不论是第一种情况
还是第二种，DISNEY主意应该已经拿定了。
如果DISNEY真把Kimmel炒掉，那它在西方的形象可就碎了。你那关键词里既有hate
crime又有racism,两者在美国可都是犯法的，一告一个准。可吵吵了半天，到现在也没
有半个律师站出来要挣这容易钱，那出问题了？答案是：有些人的脑子！
【在 d******o 的大作中提到】
: 骗了两次不够嘛，还有人在幻想？
: 1，节目取消,
: 2，解雇 Kimmel,
: 3，公布节目内容审查政策
: 如果第一个星期 DISNEY/ABC就把Kimmel炒掉，哪有后边这么多幺蛾子。
: 现在炒掉这个惹祸精合同工，撑死了赔他损失$9.2m，抵死尼还能够挽回点形象，拖越
: 久烂疮越大，到时候就是100米的损失了，这么简单的账，为啥DISNEY/ABC就算不清呢
| o**********e
发帖数: 18403 | 13 楼上的啥逻辑啊？ You think MickeyMouse is like 诸葛亮， Donald Duck is like
曹操。 So far all Disney/Kimmel did was trying to minimize damage and
shirk responsibility. Their various "apologies" ranged from blaming 6 year
olds to suggesting that we just don't have a sense of humor.
The latest 3rd or 4th version were closest to taking some of the
responsibility for airing this clip as entertainment material. But Kimmel
never apologized yet for instigating the infamous hate speech by essentially
drawing a target around China (as the scapegoat for US government shutdown)
and inviting the little kids to take shots at it.
Not all of us agree with people who want to keep rallying and protesting,
but no matter how far each of us want to go, we support each other and every
baby step and every big steps are in the right direction.
| j****y
发帖数: 1714 | 14 simple. you hurt my feeling. i dont do business with you.
no need to explain too much.
it is company's job to win customers.
not the other way around.
boycott Disney is the right move.
you
was
all
【在 o**********e 的大作中提到】
: 是。 你们的决定我总是尊重的。 Some people choose to be right, others
: choose to be right and happy and do the trade-off.
: 不过要想好， 别人问：“Jimmy Kimmel/ABC apologized already, what more do you
: really want?" We need to say: "here's why we don't think his apology was
: sincere... here's what we think a real apology would look like... firing
: Kimmel would look sincere". Personally as you know, I think there are
: alternative sincere gestures, but that's just me.
: http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/CivilSociety/1615.html
: If others ask:"Jimmy Kimmel tried to convince the little kid not to kill all
: the Chinese, why
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