x****u 发帖数: 3 | 1 我是个基督徒。我来美国读博士之前从来没想过自己会相信神。我原来的专业让我有很多
机会批判基督教。我信神的过程非常平淡,因为我偶尔听到一个朋友说起“为一个义人去
死没什么了不起,难的是为一个罪人死。基督就是这样为我们做的。”我在这样一句话里
大彻大悟,决定将这一生献给神。我来美国这几年,觉得美国最好的东西就是人们心中还
有对神的信靠和畏惧。
如果你正遭遇不幸,那么这不是你信靠神的理由,如果你想从神这里得到什么好处,那么
就更不要来信基督教。只有真正有一天,你愿意和神一同背负他的十字架,你再来求问神
,问他愿不愿意做你一生的主。 |
x********u 发帖数: 18 | 2
多
去
里
还
么
神
ni xin ling tai kong xu le.
【在 x****u 的大作中提到】 : 我是个基督徒。我来美国读博士之前从来没想过自己会相信神。我原来的专业让我有很多 : 机会批判基督教。我信神的过程非常平淡,因为我偶尔听到一个朋友说起“为一个义人去 : 死没什么了不起,难的是为一个罪人死。基督就是这样为我们做的。”我在这样一句话里 : 大彻大悟,决定将这一生献给神。我来美国这几年,觉得美国最好的东西就是人们心中还 : 有对神的信靠和畏惧。 : 如果你正遭遇不幸,那么这不是你信靠神的理由,如果你想从神这里得到什么好处,那么 : 就更不要来信基督教。只有真正有一天,你愿意和神一同背负他的十字架,你再来求问神 : ,问他愿不愿意做你一生的主。
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s***f 发帖数: 173 | 3 你在美国当你的博士,别来这儿当什么小丑儿
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里
还
么
神
【在 x****u 的大作中提到】 : 我是个基督徒。我来美国读博士之前从来没想过自己会相信神。我原来的专业让我有很多 : 机会批判基督教。我信神的过程非常平淡,因为我偶尔听到一个朋友说起“为一个义人去 : 死没什么了不起,难的是为一个罪人死。基督就是这样为我们做的。”我在这样一句话里 : 大彻大悟,决定将这一生献给神。我来美国这几年,觉得美国最好的东西就是人们心中还 : 有对神的信靠和畏惧。 : 如果你正遭遇不幸,那么这不是你信靠神的理由,如果你想从神这里得到什么好处,那么 : 就更不要来信基督教。只有真正有一天,你愿意和神一同背负他的十字架,你再来求问神 : ,问他愿不愿意做你一生的主。
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n*t 发帖数: 58 | 4 听起来有一点点的变态 嗯 就酱紫
【在 x****u 的大作中提到】 : 我是个基督徒。我来美国读博士之前从来没想过自己会相信神。我原来的专业让我有很多 : 机会批判基督教。我信神的过程非常平淡,因为我偶尔听到一个朋友说起“为一个义人去 : 死没什么了不起,难的是为一个罪人死。基督就是这样为我们做的。”我在这样一句话里 : 大彻大悟,决定将这一生献给神。我来美国这几年,觉得美国最好的东西就是人们心中还 : 有对神的信靠和畏惧。 : 如果你正遭遇不幸,那么这不是你信靠神的理由,如果你想从神这里得到什么好处,那么 : 就更不要来信基督教。只有真正有一天,你愿意和神一同背负他的十字架,你再来求问神 : ,问他愿不愿意做你一生的主。
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B******m 发帖数: 2643 | 5 还好啦,有的时候人士比较空虚的
很多
人去
话里
中还
那么
问神
【在 n*t 的大作中提到】 : 听起来有一点点的变态 嗯 就酱紫
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r*********y 发帖数: 27 | 6 en
you dao li
多
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里
还
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【在 x****u 的大作中提到】 : 我是个基督徒。我来美国读博士之前从来没想过自己会相信神。我原来的专业让我有很多 : 机会批判基督教。我信神的过程非常平淡,因为我偶尔听到一个朋友说起“为一个义人去 : 死没什么了不起,难的是为一个罪人死。基督就是这样为我们做的。”我在这样一句话里 : 大彻大悟,决定将这一生献给神。我来美国这几年,觉得美国最好的东西就是人们心中还 : 有对神的信靠和畏惧。 : 如果你正遭遇不幸,那么这不是你信靠神的理由,如果你想从神这里得到什么好处,那么 : 就更不要来信基督教。只有真正有一天,你愿意和神一同背负他的十字架,你再来求问神 : ,问他愿不愿意做你一生的主。
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l**u 发帖数: 65 | |
x********u 发帖数: 18 | 8
有
义
基督死之前说:父啊,你为什么放弃我!
其实他不想死,在那时候他还在幻想着他的父亲会来救他.
我个人猜测,他的历史原形是个有点轻微精神分裂的虔诚的犹太教徒.
句
心
,
求
从最后几句话可以明显的看出来他是想给自己找点事情做.
100年之后,李老师也会成为基督一样的传奇人物的.
【在 l**u 的大作中提到】 : agree! : 很 : 人 : 话 : 中 : 那 : 问
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b******n 发帖数: 202 | 9 Hand-hand! Smiling: )
多
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里
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神
【在 x****u 的大作中提到】 : 我是个基督徒。我来美国读博士之前从来没想过自己会相信神。我原来的专业让我有很多 : 机会批判基督教。我信神的过程非常平淡,因为我偶尔听到一个朋友说起“为一个义人去 : 死没什么了不起,难的是为一个罪人死。基督就是这样为我们做的。”我在这样一句话里 : 大彻大悟,决定将这一生献给神。我来美国这几年,觉得美国最好的东西就是人们心中还 : 有对神的信靠和畏惧。 : 如果你正遭遇不幸,那么这不是你信靠神的理由,如果你想从神这里得到什么好处,那么 : 就更不要来信基督教。只有真正有一天,你愿意和神一同背负他的十字架,你再来求问神 : ,问他愿不愿意做你一生的主。
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w*m 发帖数: 29 | 10 I do not think so.
I think people who are suffering right now need God more, and those who want
to get something from God will also be accepted by God. Otherwise, why do you
pray everyday? Aren't you expecting something from him?
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【在 x****u 的大作中提到】 : 我是个基督徒。我来美国读博士之前从来没想过自己会相信神。我原来的专业让我有很多 : 机会批判基督教。我信神的过程非常平淡,因为我偶尔听到一个朋友说起“为一个义人去 : 死没什么了不起,难的是为一个罪人死。基督就是这样为我们做的。”我在这样一句话里 : 大彻大悟,决定将这一生献给神。我来美国这几年,觉得美国最好的东西就是人们心中还 : 有对神的信靠和畏惧。 : 如果你正遭遇不幸,那么这不是你信靠神的理由,如果你想从神这里得到什么好处,那么 : 就更不要来信基督教。只有真正有一天,你愿意和神一同背负他的十字架,你再来求问神 : ,问他愿不愿意做你一生的主。
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j***h 发帖数: 37 | 11 Religions are for weak minded people. -Jesse Ventura
you
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中
那
问
【在 w*m 的大作中提到】 : I do not think so. : I think people who are suffering right now need God more, and those who want : to get something from God will also be accepted by God. Otherwise, why do you : pray everyday? Aren't you expecting something from him? : : 多 : 去 : 里 : 还 : 么
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r*****o 发帖数: 3 | 12
我
个
一
们
处
来
拜托, 老李的书简直不堪入目.
【在 x********u 的大作中提到】 : : 有 : 义 : 基督死之前说:父啊,你为什么放弃我! : 其实他不想死,在那时候他还在幻想着他的父亲会来救他. : 我个人猜测,他的历史原形是个有点轻微精神分裂的虔诚的犹太教徒. : 句 : 心 : , : 求
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b***G 发帖数: 542 | 13 Nobody else would ever be comparable to Jesus Christ.
You won't understand why so many people would adore and trust Him this much
unless you really believe in Him too. God leads different people by different
ways, however, those who are suffering tend to experience God's love more
easily.
让
一
样
人
好
再
【在 r*****o 的大作中提到】 : : 我 : 个 : 一 : 们 : 处 : 来 : 拜托, 老李的书简直不堪入目.
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d********r 发帖数: 303 | 14 Chinese people are not tolerant!
There are too groups. They are either fundamental christian or fundamental
atheist. Both are fundamentalist and belive the Truth is in their hand.
The world is Complex!
For both side, i have One word:
Hold your faith and shut your mouth!
different
业
为
这
是
么
你
【在 b***G 的大作中提到】 : Nobody else would ever be comparable to Jesus Christ. : You won't understand why so many people would adore and trust Him this much : unless you really believe in Him too. God leads different people by different : ways, however, those who are suffering tend to experience God's love more : easily. : : 让 : 一 : 样 : 人
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d********r 发帖数: 303 | 15 No, what he said is the "organized regilion".
Say, if you are mind strong person, you may still belive in God but you can
pray and do what ever yourself and have no need to go to church.
【在 j***h 的大作中提到】 : Religions are for weak minded people. -Jesse Ventura : : you : 很 : 人 : 话 : 中 : 那 : 问
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j***h 发帖数: 37 | 16
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Hehe, talk about tolerance ...
much
专
“
在
【在 d********r 的大作中提到】 : Chinese people are not tolerant! : There are too groups. They are either fundamental christian or fundamental : atheist. Both are fundamentalist and belive the Truth is in their hand. : The world is Complex! : For both side, i have One word: : Hold your faith and shut your mouth! : : different : 业 : 为
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j***h 发帖数: 37 | 17
And I think he is right. :) See there is a major difference between
religions and "atheism". All the religions tell people to have "faith",
or in other words, as long as the religious fundamentals are concerned,
you should just believe in it and not ask questions. Strong minded people
would ask questions, be it "Does the sun circles the earth or the other
way around?" or "Is there really a big guy living in the sky judging us?"
People who don't have their own judgement, well, have to believe wh
【在 d********r 的大作中提到】 : No, what he said is the "organized regilion". : Say, if you are mind strong person, you may still belive in God but you can : pray and do what ever yourself and have no need to go to church.
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d********r 发帖数: 303 | 18
I appreciate your understanding on tolerance. :>
Well, I just say "shut" to those people who talk in an abusive way.
Good to express your idea and debate or argue with other people. But
don't talk in an abusive way like you have all the truth and the God personaly
gives his truth to you and all other people disagree with you are heretic and
are evil.
【在 j***h 的大作中提到】 : : And I think he is right. :) See there is a major difference between : religions and "atheism". All the religions tell people to have "faith", : or in other words, as long as the religious fundamentals are concerned, : you should just believe in it and not ask questions. Strong minded people : would ask questions, be it "Does the sun circles the earth or the other : way around?" or "Is there really a big guy living in the sky judging us?" : People who don't have their own judgement, well, have to believe wh
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d********r 发帖数: 303 | 19 Dear jianh,
Well, not so.
Atheism is religion! Now in US army, you can declare your religion as
Atheism, as I just learnt from a google news group (you can find it by looking
at news group in atheism)
You are not able to prove or disprove whether a God (or gods or other
spirits) really exists. It is a matter a faith to say there is a God or there
is NO God.
For me, I am not affiliated to any organized religion (pretty much agree
with Mr. Ventura.) But I am not an atheism. I think the
【在 j***h 的大作中提到】 : : And I think he is right. :) See there is a major difference between : religions and "atheism". All the religions tell people to have "faith", : or in other words, as long as the religious fundamentals are concerned, : you should just believe in it and not ask questions. Strong minded people : would ask questions, be it "Does the sun circles the earth or the other : way around?" or "Is there really a big guy living in the sky judging us?" : People who don't have their own judgement, well, have to believe wh
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d********r 发帖数: 303 | 20 Actually atheism is a really wonder religion. And I recommend we should have
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h*****l 发帖数: 184 | 21 不好意思, 请问基督是为哪一位罪人死的?
多
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【在 x****u 的大作中提到】 : 我是个基督徒。我来美国读博士之前从来没想过自己会相信神。我原来的专业让我有很多 : 机会批判基督教。我信神的过程非常平淡,因为我偶尔听到一个朋友说起“为一个义人去 : 死没什么了不起,难的是为一个罪人死。基督就是这样为我们做的。”我在这样一句话里 : 大彻大悟,决定将这一生献给神。我来美国这几年,觉得美国最好的东西就是人们心中还 : 有对神的信靠和畏惧。 : 如果你正遭遇不幸,那么这不是你信靠神的理由,如果你想从神这里得到什么好处,那么 : 就更不要来信基督教。只有真正有一天,你愿意和神一同背负他的十字架,你再来求问神 : ,问他愿不愿意做你一生的主。
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j***h 发帖数: 37 | 22 Sure, if the question becomes whether there is a god, everybody
falls to the same level as the god believers, who are "weak minded".
God or not to god, is not the key. The key is whether one can ask
that question. Nobody can tell you what to believe, not the bible,
not US army, and definitely not google. Some people may prefer to
give up their freedom of thinking and buy into something somebody
else tell them to believe, blindly. For me, I just don't like the
idea that I am not in control of my
【在 d********r 的大作中提到】 : Dear jianh, : Well, not so. : Atheism is religion! Now in US army, you can declare your religion as : Atheism, as I just learnt from a google news group (you can find it by looking : at news group in atheism) : You are not able to prove or disprove whether a God (or gods or other : spirits) really exists. It is a matter a faith to say there is a God or there : is NO God. : For me, I am not affiliated to any organized religion (pretty much agree : with Mr. Ventura.) But I am not an atheism. I think the
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d*****u 发帖数: 17243 | 23 无神论的思想基础有两种
一种是所谓Cartesian, 或者叫理性主义。强调从理论出发,预测或演绎事实。
另一种是所谓empirical,或者叫实证主义。强调从事实出发,分析或归纳理论。
而宗教就比较不同了。要么是从个别的现象“归纳”出经不起考验的理论;要么是绕开逻
辑,用基本教义歪曲事实。作为一种个人信仰,当然是无可厚非;但硬要来跟现代科学一
争高下就显得有点可笑了。
looking
there
being
it
【在 d********r 的大作中提到】 : Dear jianh, : Well, not so. : Atheism is religion! Now in US army, you can declare your religion as : Atheism, as I just learnt from a google news group (you can find it by looking : at news group in atheism) : You are not able to prove or disprove whether a God (or gods or other : spirits) really exists. It is a matter a faith to say there is a God or there : is NO God. : For me, I am not affiliated to any organized religion (pretty much agree : with Mr. Ventura.) But I am not an atheism. I think the
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d********m 发帖数: 2 | 24 Doggiebear,
After reading your argument, I am confused about your attitude towards us
(chinese) in this BBS. First of all, you mentioned Chinese people are not
tolerate! I think your Judgement and conclusion are too naive. Have you
considered your identity before making such Judgement? I am a Chinese
Christian since I was 14 years old, and never considered myself extreme or
fundamentalist. I think people have the right to express their view and
concerns on the BBS; too bad you are the one h
【在 d********r 的大作中提到】 : Chinese people are not tolerant! : There are too groups. They are either fundamental christian or fundamental : atheist. Both are fundamentalist and belive the Truth is in their hand. : The world is Complex! : For both side, i have One word: : Hold your faith and shut your mouth! : : different : 业 : 为
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