s***e
发帖数: 1490 | 1
一个职位有400-600个人申请，很多人都是手头攒了一大堆paper，大概都是前两年形
势不好暂时留在学校里人。所以造成今年faculty职位特别特别难找。
与此相对照的是Industy的工作反而容易，前提你是Phd你的方向不能太理论，虽然部
要求一定有intern经历，至少要做过一些食用点的project吧。这里说的是工程方向
的情况。
今天看报纸上说，经济危机的后果对于faculty求职时有延迟性的，这个延迟比工业界
要晚一到两年。因此，今后几年的faculty job market之严酷性就如同2001-2003年工
业界的job market一个道理。
总体感觉就是如果最近3年内毕业的话，最好做一点去industry的准备， 与其发太多
无用的paper。不如把写paper的时间用来争取一些intern的机会。另外也可以考虑回
国发展。 |
z**5
发帖数: 221 | 2 All I can say is that you know nothing about computer science or the job
market.
不好暂时留在学校里人。所以造成今年faculty职位特别特别难找。
求一定有intern经历，至少要做过一些食用点的project吧。这里说的是工程方向的情况
。
要晚一到两年。因此，今后几年的faculty job market之严酷性就如同2001-2003年工业
界的job market一个道理。
用的paper。不如把写paper的时间用来争取一些intern的机会。另外也可以考虑回国发展
。 |
f*****r
发帖数: 229 | 3
This claim is pretty strong. So, what are the reasons behind this claim?
势
要
况
界
业
无
展
【在 z**5 的大作中提到】
: All I can say is that you know nothing about computer science or the job
: market.
:
: 不好暂时留在学校里人。所以造成今年faculty职位特别特别难找。
: 求一定有intern经历，至少要做过一些食用点的project吧。这里说的是工程方向的情况
: 。
: 要晚一到两年。因此，今后几年的faculty job market之严酷性就如同2001-2003年工业
: 界的job market一个道理。
: 用的paper。不如把写paper的时间用来争取一些intern的机会。另外也可以考虑回国发展
: 。
|
r*****y
发帖数: 507 | 4 Nod!
I am not on job market yet. But I still know some engineering schools (esp.
CS) are largely expanding their faculty.
势
要
况
界
业
无
展
【在 z**5 的大作中提到】
: All I can say is that you know nothing about computer science or the job
: market.
:
: 不好暂时留在学校里人。所以造成今年faculty职位特别特别难找。
: 求一定有intern经历，至少要做过一些食用点的project吧。这里说的是工程方向的情况
: 。
: 要晚一到两年。因此，今后几年的faculty job market之严酷性就如同2001-2003年工业
: 界的job market一个道理。
: 用的paper。不如把写paper的时间用来争取一些intern的机会。另外也可以考虑回国发展
: 。
|
f*****r
发帖数: 229 | 5 I know some university has 3-5 opening every thing since 2002. But every year
they only hire 1-2 high quality Ph.D. Last year they got at least 300
applications, and kust selected 2. BTW, this university is ranked 30-50.
形
部
情
业
工
多
发
【在 r*****y 的大作中提到】
: Nod!
: I am not on job market yet. But I still know some engineering schools (esp.
: CS) are largely expanding their faculty.
:
: 势
: 要
: 况
: 界
: 业
: 无
|
t*****i
发帖数: 141 | 6 How about teaching school? Many teaching schools are hiring. I think you
should have good chance to get a position if you have some good papers. Of
course, teaching ability is equally important.
year
(esp.
年
然
的
工
年
太
国
【在 f*****r 的大作中提到】
: I know some university has 3-5 opening every thing since 2002. But every year
: they only hire 1-2 high quality Ph.D. Last year they got at least 300
: applications, and kust selected 2. BTW, this university is ranked 30-50.
:
: 形
: 部
: 情
: 业
: 工
: 多
|
f*****r
发帖数: 229 | 7 Many Ph.Ds want to find a decent job, such as, a faculty in a reasonably good
university, a position in an industry lab, or a good industry position. If
they only want to find a job, that is much easier.
BTW, how do you guys make decisions if you're in a tough situation such as
selecting between a small company and a teaching school?
job
两
虽
向
比
market之严酷性就如同2001-2003
发
【在 t*****i 的大作中提到】
: How about teaching school? Many teaching schools are hiring. I think you
: should have good chance to get a position if you have some good papers. Of
: course, teaching ability is equally important.
:
: year
: (esp.
: 年
: 然
: 的
: 工
|
t*****i
发帖数: 141 | 8 My choice will be:
research school or research lab > big company development > teaching school >
small company development
I guess most people have the similar priority.
good
前
，
方
【在 f*****r 的大作中提到】
: Many Ph.Ds want to find a decent job, such as, a faculty in a reasonably good
: university, a position in an industry lab, or a good industry position. If
: they only want to find a job, that is much easier.
: BTW, how do you guys make decisions if you're in a tough situation such as
: selecting between a small company and a teaching school?
:
: job
: 两
: 虽
: 向
|
f*****r
发帖数: 229 | 9 Small company or big comapny may be not that important. I think that the
important thing is if the company really has some postions ready for a Ph.D,
both from the perspectives of responsibility and salary. You know, some
start-ups are small, but they do some cutting-edge development and are good
choice for a Ph.D student.
>
Of
every
30-50.
schools
the
是
论
【在 t*****i 的大作中提到】
: My choice will be:
: research school or research lab > big company development > teaching school >
: small company development
: I guess most people have the similar priority.
:
: good
: 前
: ，
: 方
|
T**********n
发帖数: 480 | 10 为啥小公司不好呢？
在小公司也不一定就是个coder啊
对于phd来说，在大公司，哪怕是研究院也就是一颗螺丝钉
可是在小公司里的影响力就大多了，而且也更自由一点，不是很好么？
【在 t*****i 的大作中提到】
: My choice will be:
: research school or research lab > big company development > teaching school >
: small company development
: I guess most people have the similar priority.
:
: good
: 前
: ，
: 方
|
t*****i
发帖数: 141 | 11 You get more credit by working in large companies such as microsoft and Acatel. Don't know if this is true?
Of course, there are some very good small companies
【在 T**********n 的大作中提到】
: 为啥小公司不好呢？
: 在小公司也不一定就是个coder啊
: 对于phd来说，在大公司，哪怕是研究院也就是一颗螺丝钉
: 可是在小公司里的影响力就大多了，而且也更自由一点，不是很好么？
|
g***l
发帖数: 352 | 12 If you goto teaching school, you have to stay the same level your whole life.
No way out.
job
两
虽
向
比
market之严酷性就如同2001-2003
发
【在 t*****i 的大作中提到】
: How about teaching school? Many teaching schools are hiring. I think you
: should have good chance to get a position if you have some good papers. Of
: course, teaching ability is equally important.
:
: year
: (esp.
: 年
: 然
: 的
: 工
|
r****c
发帖数: 2585 | 13 I do not agree with what you said about the academic jobs.
Even there are 400 - 600 hundred, nearlly every guy apply for around 100
hundred. You can do the calculation, I also not agree you with what you said
about what to do in your ph.d study period. If you are a system guy, then you
should do much programming and project.
Although these days lot of people have lot of papers, but I think there only
few or NON chinese student publish in the top conference. If you are a theory
guy, with several
【在 t*****i 的大作中提到】
: You get more credit by working in large companies such as microsoft and Acatel. Don't know if this is true?
: Of course, there are some very good small companies
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