k***r
发帖数: 114 | 1 国内好像有这个说法，不知美国也这样吗？外行（正在修cs本科的课）问问 |
P***P
发帖数: 1387 | |
k***r
发帖数: 114 | 3 不是坑，诚心请教，俺就是准备从生物坑跳出来。，现在在修cs本科的课。
【在 P***P 的大作中提到】
: 21世纪是生物世纪, 还是转生物的好
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S*******w
发帖数: 24236 | 4 总比生物强
【在 k***r 的大作中提到】
: 不是坑，诚心请教，俺就是准备从生物坑跳出来。，现在在修cs本科的课。
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d*****u
发帖数: 17243 | 5 程序员是青春饭，CS不一定是
【在 k***r 的大作中提到】
: 国内好像有这个说法，不知美国也这样吗？外行（正在修cs本科的课）问问
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t**m
发帖数: 263 | 6 you can do ppl/project management or consulting work other than coding
【在 k***r 的大作中提到】
: 国内好像有这个说法，不知美国也这样吗？外行（正在修cs本科的课）问问
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s*****y
发帖数: 1974 | 7 你看看美国什么职业不编程？学校当个小秘还得会数据库编程
大部分公司的工作或多或少都涉及编程，其实cs现在是个基础学科
【在 k***r 的大作中提到】
: 国内好像有这个说法，不知美国也这样吗？外行（正在修cs本科的课）问问
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w*******s
发帖数: 940 | 8 偶们HR，office manager，甚至project manager都不编程
【在 s*****y 的大作中提到】
: 你看看美国什么职业不编程？学校当个小秘还得会数据库编程
: 大部分公司的工作或多或少都涉及编程，其实cs现在是个基础学科
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K****n
发帖数: 5970 | 9 小蜜懂数据库？excel吧？
【在 s*****y 的大作中提到】
: 你看看美国什么职业不编程？学校当个小秘还得会数据库编程
: 大部分公司的工作或多或少都涉及编程，其实cs现在是个基础学科
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i****l
发帖数: 78 | 10 CS好找工作
【在 k***r 的大作中提到】
: 国内好像有这个说法，不知美国也这样吗？外行（正在修cs本科的课）问问
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H******C
发帖数: 700 | 11 很多小秘懂 access 得，会设计 access tables. Access 就是数据库的一种啊，必要
时还得写写 SQL query. |
b******g
发帖数: 81 | 12 There are many senior developers in the job market here in US. Make sure you
get on the right track in CS courses, age won't be an impediment.
By the way, IT jobs could get very boring sometimes - you probably can feel
that during your bachelor course (like debugging code). IT jobs could get
very challenging - the technology changes almost every 10 years. You want to
make sure you are OK with the boring part of IT, and enjoy the challenging
part of IT. |
s*****y
发帖数: 1974 | 13 小蜜天天写excel还不吐血了啊
那么多公司信息都人工管理？
【在 K****n 的大作中提到】
: 小蜜懂数据库？excel吧？
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a****l
发帖数: 8211 | 14 If one thinks debugging is boring, I would say that person probably is not
fit for CS work. That might be the most exciting part of CS work, literally
like hunting... Of course not everyone likes hunting, but you can get the
idea.
you
feel
to
challenging
【在 b******g 的大作中提到】
: There are many senior developers in the job market here in US. Make sure you
: get on the right track in CS courses, age won't be an impediment.
: By the way, IT jobs could get very boring sometimes - you probably can feel
: that during your bachelor course (like debugging code). IT jobs could get
: very challenging - the technology changes almost every 10 years. You want to
: make sure you are OK with the boring part of IT, and enjoy the challenging
: part of IT.
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g*****g
发帖数: 34805 | 15 I think architecture design is more creative and interesting.
literally
【在 a****l 的大作中提到】
: If one thinks debugging is boring, I would say that person probably is not
: fit for CS work. That might be the most exciting part of CS work, literally
: like hunting... Of course not everyone likes hunting, but you can get the
: idea.
:
: you
: feel
: to
: challenging
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b******g
发帖数: 81 | 16 熬夜调程序对有些人是难以接受的。比如PPMM要为Debug熬出眼袋来，恐怕就不值了。
大老爷们儿当然无所谓了。
literally
【在 a****l 的大作中提到】
: If one thinks debugging is boring, I would say that person probably is not
: fit for CS work. That might be the most exciting part of CS work, literally
: like hunting... Of course not everyone likes hunting, but you can get the
: idea.
:
: you
: feel
: to
: challenging
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l*********s
发帖数: 5409 | 17 STRONG RE
literally
【在 a****l 的大作中提到】
: If one thinks debugging is boring, I would say that person probably is not
: fit for CS work. That might be the most exciting part of CS work, literally
: like hunting... Of course not everyone likes hunting, but you can get the
: idea.
:
: you
: feel
: to
: challenging
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d****p
发帖数: 685 | 18 RE.
Debugging is the most intellectually rewarding part of being a coder.
literally
【在 a****l 的大作中提到】
: If one thinks debugging is boring, I would say that person probably is not
: fit for CS work. That might be the most exciting part of CS work, literally
: like hunting... Of course not everyone likes hunting, but you can get the
: idea.
:
: you
: feel
: to
: challenging
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d****p
发帖数: 685 | 19 Don't think so - coding could be a good life-long career.
【在 d*****u 的大作中提到】
: 程序员是青春饭，CS不一定是
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K****n
发帖数: 5970 | 20 第一次把coder看成了loser呵呵
【在 d****p 的大作中提到】
: RE.
: Debugging is the most intellectually rewarding part of being a coder.
:
: literally
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P***P
发帖数: 1387 | 21
........你可以做个好tester
【在 d****p 的大作中提到】
: RE.
: Debugging is the most intellectually rewarding part of being a coder.
:
: literally
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h*i
发帖数: 3446 | 22 False.
Good coders (like me :-)) don't debug much, because it is very unlikely to
find bug in our code. When good coders do debug, they do it quickly. But it
is never intellectually rewarding, because most bugs are stupid mistakes and
should not have had happened.
【在 d****p 的大作中提到】
: RE.
: Debugging is the most intellectually rewarding part of being a coder.
:
: literally
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h*i
发帖数: 3446 | 23 Agree.
Writing code is the easiest part.
【在 g*****g 的大作中提到】
: I think architecture design is more creative and interesting.
:
: literally
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z****e
发帖数: 54598 | 24 你这是写到一定境界了
对于那些还在hello world阶段的人来说
coding简直就是种折磨的大有人在
【在 h*i 的大作中提到】
: Agree.
: Writing code is the easiest part.
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d****p
发帖数: 685 | 25 Dude, if you are good and your code is clean, chances are you will be
assigned bugs not from your code. If your product has passed initial
validation stage, any bugs reported up are very interesting.
For small team where your role is stable, this may not happen but our
situation is the team is really large and when project deadline is tight
there are guys from other teams helping out. When product releases, these
guys are gone but you are responsible for all bugs from their code.
it
and
【在 h*i 的大作中提到】
: False.
: Good coders (like me :-)) don't debug much, because it is very unlikely to
: find bug in our code. When good coders do debug, they do it quickly. But it
: is never intellectually rewarding, because most bugs are stupid mistakes and
: should not have had happened.
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d****p
发帖数: 685 | 26 Maybe you are well rounded in all aspects in coding - but coding is actually
not easy. I do agree that design is more important.
You need good knowledge to write decent code. There is also very low level
know how that differentiates good or bad coders.
Say someguy is afraid of memory leak and overuses boost shared pointer. And
finally introduced circular dependency in object ownship. Yeah, usually such
guys are not able to produce clean design. So good coders usually get good
design and focus on details while inexperienced or experienced but dull
coders lack both.
【在 h*i 的大作中提到】
: Agree.
: Writing code is the easiest part.
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b******g
发帖数: 81 | 27 IT is going towards this trend, which means coding should get easier and
easier. Debugging your own code is kind of easy (except script), too.
If anyone thinks debugging is the most fun, managers would definitely like that person. He/she would assign a lot of issues to that person.
I personally would avoid any debugging code from previous developer (especially
Indian developer), unless this is a well paid job. Reading their code
is boring and brain damaging.
【在 h*i 的大作中提到】
: Agree.
: Writing code is the easiest part.
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w***o
发帖数: 6775 | 28 Re too. I enjoy it a lot
【在 d****p 的大作中提到】
: RE.
: Debugging is the most intellectually rewarding part of being a coder.
:
: literally
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b******g
发帖数: 81 | 29 You are in school, aren't you?
【在 w***o 的大作中提到】
: Re too. I enjoy it a lot
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w***o
发帖数: 6775 | 30 no
【在 b******g 的大作中提到】
: You are in school, aren't you?
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b******g
发帖数: 81 | 31 tell me how you debug a sql stored procedure.
【在 w***o 的大作中提到】
: no
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P*******e
发帖数: 71 | 32 扯。我把我的青春都献给CS了，无论在中国还是在国外。还不是越走越顺。
【在 k***r 的大作中提到】
: 国内好像有这个说法，不知美国也这样吗？外行（正在修cs本科的课）问问
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w***o
发帖数: 6775 | 33 You are not job interviewer, I don't have to answer your question.
【在 b******g 的大作中提到】
: tell me how you debug a sql stored procedure.
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h*i
发帖数: 3446 | 34 I find all bugs are equally uninteresting, no matter who created them. I do
not have the habit of taking pleasure in other people's mistakes.
【在 d****p 的大作中提到】
: Dude, if you are good and your code is clean, chances are you will be
: assigned bugs not from your code. If your product has passed initial
: validation stage, any bugs reported up are very interesting.
: For small team where your role is stable, this may not happen but our
: situation is the team is really large and when project deadline is tight
: there are guys from other teams helping out. When product releases, these
: guys are gone but you are responsible for all bugs from their code.
:
: it
: and
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d****p
发帖数: 685 | 35 It is more difficult to fix bugs in other people's code, and I find it
enjoyable fixing such difficult bugs. It is not about taking pleasure in
other ppl's mistakes.
do
【在 h*i 的大作中提到】
: I find all bugs are equally uninteresting, no matter who created them. I do
: not have the habit of taking pleasure in other people's mistakes.
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c**b
发帖数: 2999 | 36 瞎说,眼袋是纵欲弄出来的,嘿嘿...
【在 b******g 的大作中提到】
: 熬夜调程序对有些人是难以接受的。比如PPMM要为Debug熬出眼袋来，恐怕就不值了。
: 大老爷们儿当然无所谓了。
:
: literally
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c*****t
发帖数: 10738 | 37 中国不知道。美国大叔大妈程序员一大堆，干的挺欢的。 |
s*****o
发帖数: 1540 | 38 我不知道你在CS上吃了几年咸盐啊？
BUG，绝大多数都是非常困难的，而不是单存的疏忽。那个不是BUG，是ERROR。
一个好的CODER，做出来的BUG很少，是因为在RELEASE之前把BUG杀的差不多了。
你永远会在最意想不到的情况下找到BUG。
it
and
【在 h*i 的大作中提到】
: False.
: Good coders (like me :-)) don't debug much, because it is very unlikely to
: find bug in our code. When good coders do debug, they do it quickly. But it
: is never intellectually rewarding, because most bugs are stupid mistakes and
: should not have had happened.
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s*****o
发帖数: 1540 | 39 我在计算机工业界纵横了几十年，没有一次不对解决BUG的方法拍案叫绝的。
BUG，抓虫子，是最开心的事情了。
【在 d****p 的大作中提到】
: It is more difficult to fix bugs in other people's code, and I find it
: enjoyable fixing such difficult bugs. It is not about taking pleasure in
: other ppl's mistakes.
:
: do
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s***o
发帖数: 2191 | 40 您贵庚啊？
【在 s*****o 的大作中提到】
: 我在计算机工业界纵横了几十年，没有一次不对解决BUG的方法拍案叫绝的。
: BUG，抓虫子，是最开心的事情了。
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r********3
发帖数: 2998 | 41 看来你只做过一些小程序。
我们面程序员的时候，把程序员划分档次的一个重要依据就是看他在multithread
programming的经验
估计你没遇到什么才是真正的bug。让你跑100次，然后只有一次出现问题。出现问题之
后，你无法重现这个bug，你需要再跑100次。
很多multithread程序的debugging，需要花上几周时间才能解决。因为光是重现这个
bug，就是一天时间。
看来你以前做的code都还是上个世纪的过家家。
it
and
【在 h*i 的大作中提到】
: False.
: Good coders (like me :-)) don't debug much, because it is very unlikely to
: find bug in our code. When good coders do debug, they do it quickly. But it
: is never intellectually rewarding, because most bugs are stupid mistakes and
: should not have had happened.
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x*******i
发帖数: 777 | |
