f********n 发帖数: 6465 | 1 请问生物博士毕业,通过读MBA转入风险投资这一行,靠谱吗?
听说现在有机农业之类的在中国和世界都比较火,生物博士毕业,读个MBA,转入风险投资,
靠不靠谱呢?
请推荐这样的MBA项目?(还是说所有的MBA项目都可以?)
谢谢前辈们. |
w*******e 发帖数: 312 | 2 VC/PE是最难进的
版上有个wharton毕业的哥们,最后为了进VC也折腾的不行,不过最后还是进了 |
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r****n 发帖数: 918 | 4 你是拿别人的钱去套更多的钱,没有两把刷子人家为啥相信你,人又不是笨蛋。你生物
的phd学校好吗?能不能申请到magic 7,有没有绿卡,这些都是能否在美国找到pe/vc
要考虑的问题,排名100的mba和排名top10的差远了。而且pe和vc其实更多的是people
skill,和专业没什么很大关系的。
老实说现在想走这条路的美国人都不少,我面试的时候认识一个从washington univ在
st Luis的生物phd,一个是一个小学校的机械phd,都是因为专业不好找工作去申请mba
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f********n 发帖数: 6465 | 5 phD直接读MBA还是要工作一阵子呢?
什么工作好呢?
vc
people
mba
【在 r****n 的大作中提到】 : 你是拿别人的钱去套更多的钱,没有两把刷子人家为啥相信你,人又不是笨蛋。你生物 : 的phd学校好吗?能不能申请到magic 7,有没有绿卡,这些都是能否在美国找到pe/vc : 要考虑的问题,排名100的mba和排名top10的差远了。而且pe和vc其实更多的是people : skill,和专业没什么很大关系的。 : 老实说现在想走这条路的美国人都不少,我面试的时候认识一个从washington univ在 : st Luis的生物phd,一个是一个小学校的机械phd,都是因为专业不好找工作去申请mba : ,phd不能算弱点,但是并非强项。
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c******m 发帖数: 884 | 6 What is "magic 7"?
vc
people
mba
【在 r****n 的大作中提到】 : 你是拿别人的钱去套更多的钱,没有两把刷子人家为啥相信你,人又不是笨蛋。你生物 : 的phd学校好吗?能不能申请到magic 7,有没有绿卡,这些都是能否在美国找到pe/vc : 要考虑的问题,排名100的mba和排名top10的差远了。而且pe和vc其实更多的是people : skill,和专业没什么很大关系的。 : 老实说现在想走这条路的美国人都不少,我面试的时候认识一个从washington univ在 : st Luis的生物phd,一个是一个小学校的机械phd,都是因为专业不好找工作去申请mba : ,phd不能算弱点,但是并非强项。
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w**********5 发帖数: 232 | 7 别读MBA了,积累一些实业工作经验,industry experience will be much more
valuable to a VC than a degree from a mediocre (or even top) MBA program.VC
其实很喜欢有operational background的人,PE 你应该没什么戏。 |
S*********n 发帖数: 440 | 8 there're all sorts of paths leading to VC jobs.
this guy at sequoia gives an example. he's a ph.d.-turned mba.
http://www.linkedin.com/in/hogarth
nothing is impossible, but it's guaranteed to be a tough path.
you got to do your homework more broadly.
one of the qualities for VC job candidate is resourcefulness. if you only
count on a bbs to find the answer to "how to get into VC", then your success
rate becomes questionable.... ^_^
good luck! |
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f********n 发帖数: 6465 | 10 How to become a VC
I think Fred Wilson, summarizes it well:
“If you want to make top tier returns in the venture capital business….The
way you do that is you work for at least 10 years in the industry, getting
operating experience, building a killer rolodex, and learning how the
business works from the inside. Then in your mid-to-late 30s, you can make
the move to the venture capital business, as a partner, not as a wet behind
the ears associate who doesn’t know anything other than how to push numbers
around a spreadsheet.” -Fred Wilson, a partner at venture capital firm
Union Square Ventures
【在 S*********n 的大作中提到】 : http://edgararvizu.blogspot.com/2009/11/how-to-become-vc.html : an interesting quote.
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f********n 发帖数: 6465 | 11 感觉MBA没有什么用啊。
能成功地都是MBA之前就有好的工作经验和商业基础的的。
他们通过MBA认识更多的人建立社会和商业关系而已。 |
b***y 发帖数: 215 | 12 看不出来MFE和VC之间的联系,这是两个完全不同的职业选择。 |
p*******s 发帖数: 1613 | 13 exactly.
He doesn't even know what MFE is, apparently.
【在 b***y 的大作中提到】 : 看不出来MFE和VC之间的联系,这是两个完全不同的职业选择。
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f********n 发帖数: 6465 | 14 quant贝,
应该是MBA课程中,集中对金融加强的一个方面。
MBA比MFE更全面更广泛,但是MFE对金融更加深入学习。
【在 p*******s 的大作中提到】 : exactly. : He doesn't even know what MFE is, apparently.
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p*******s 发帖数: 1613 | 15 Financial Engineering/quant is only a very small subset of finance. I dont
know why many people here consider it as equivalent to "finance", or the
most important part of it. What you learn in MBA programs has little to do
with quant. MBA is about, as its name implies, management, whether to manage
a company, a project or people. Quant analysts/traders don't really manage
anything, maybe except numbers/programming languages. I don't even know what
it is within the business school as it has the least to do with "business".
MFE对金融更加深入学习 is nonsense. What is 金融? It is not about sitting
in front of a computer crunching numbers or writing codes, it is about
selling products. In this sense, MFE can't be farther away from 金融.
You need to be better informed about what Venture Capital/Private Equity
means. It is wrong, as many seem to believe, to assume that VC/PE is simply
"better" than traditional finance. It is just a different way of investment,
with high risks and possibly returns. It is like whether you want to buy
treasury bond or Apple stock, there is no better or worse, just different
investment vehicles for people of different demand.
Did you ask yourself, why do you want to enter VC? Are you interested in
the excitement of high risk deals, or just assuming it automatically brings
fat cash bonuses? The latter is not by default true.
【在 f********n 的大作中提到】 : quant贝, : 应该是MBA课程中,集中对金融加强的一个方面。 : MBA比MFE更全面更广泛,但是MFE对金融更加深入学习。
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f********n 发帖数: 6465 | 16 技术出身,进VC是否有优势呢?
如果再学个MBA的话。
manage
manage
what
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sitting
【在 p*******s 的大作中提到】 : Financial Engineering/quant is only a very small subset of finance. I dont : know why many people here consider it as equivalent to "finance", or the : most important part of it. What you learn in MBA programs has little to do : with quant. MBA is about, as its name implies, management, whether to manage : a company, a project or people. Quant analysts/traders don't really manage : anything, maybe except numbers/programming languages. I don't even know what : it is within the business school as it has the least to do with "business". : MFE对金融更加深入学习 is nonsense. What is 金融? It is not about sitting : in front of a computer crunching numbers or writing codes, it is about : selling products. In this sense, MFE can't be farther away from 金融.
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G***o 发帖数: 32 | 17 我在这行里快7年了。 感觉做生物医疗投资的,往往还都是专业出身。 不像别的行业
,懂finance就都能看懂。 生物医疗这个东西,没点儿专业知识还真不行。最近做了个
生物科技的项目,跟两家大VC一块儿投的。除了我跟我同事,其他两家一个是PhD, 一
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P*******5 发帖数: 248 | 18 LZ 最后做了什么决定啊?出来说说如何。
在下正好也有类似的疑问。
过段时间单发一个帖子来请教版上的大侠们。
【在 f********n 的大作中提到】 : 技术出身,进VC是否有优势呢? : 如果再学个MBA的话。 : : manage : manage : what : ". : sitting
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i****k 发帖数: 804 | 19 即使HBS/Wharton毕业,投行干了几年,VC也是小概率事件。美国的VC是一个正在萎缩
的行业。
资,
【在 f********n 的大作中提到】 : 请问生物博士毕业,通过读MBA转入风险投资这一行,靠谱吗? : 听说现在有机农业之类的在中国和世界都比较火,生物博士毕业,读个MBA,转入风险投资, : 靠不靠谱呢? : 请推荐这样的MBA项目?(还是说所有的MBA项目都可以?) : 谢谢前辈们.
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m********l 发帖数: 98 | 20 true
【在 i****k 的大作中提到】 : 即使HBS/Wharton毕业,投行干了几年,VC也是小概率事件。美国的VC是一个正在萎缩 : 的行业。 : : 资,
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f**e 发帖数: 890 | 21 毕业之后去START-UP公司干几年?提职的机会多一些,去外面打交道的人的级别也高一
些,VC也要打交道,虽然实际可能连大公司里面的一个普通MANAGER也挣的比你多,但
机会,见得市面要比他们强,大公司的Sr. Manager出去抛头露面的机会也不多。锻炼
几年有了人脉,再读书和转行业?
资,
【在 f********n 的大作中提到】 : 请问生物博士毕业,通过读MBA转入风险投资这一行,靠谱吗? : 听说现在有机农业之类的在中国和世界都比较火,生物博士毕业,读个MBA,转入风险投资, : 靠不靠谱呢? : 请推荐这样的MBA项目?(还是说所有的MBA项目都可以?) : 谢谢前辈们.
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s******e 发帖数: 1751 | 22 mainly b/c after tech bubble, VC is not making money.
【在 i****k 的大作中提到】 : 即使HBS/Wharton毕业,投行干了几年,VC也是小概率事件。美国的VC是一个正在萎缩 : 的行业。 : : 资,
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m********l 发帖数: 98 | 23 it's not an accurate explanation for the VC industry's downsizing.
top-tier VCs still make big bucks.
as an asset class, vc got too much $$ from LPs during the tech bubble.
so the market has been trimming down the investment in VCs, which certainly
impacted the recruiting.
back in 2007/2008, many VCs launched funds that focus on the cleantech space
when it became hot. so a ton of mba graduates got into cleantech vc's. that
period was the best time ever in the past 5 years for VC recruiting.
【在 s******e 的大作中提到】 : mainly b/c after tech bubble, VC is not making money.
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s********z 发帖数: 5411 | 24 depends on what sector, social media sector is in a
bubble and doing very well.
The problem right now is that too much money chasing too
few good ideas, which will inevitably lead to downturn
for VC.
【在 s******e 的大作中提到】 : mainly b/c after tech bubble, VC is not making money.
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