g**********y
发帖数: 14569 | 1 1
(沙龙里冒出不少牌迷,又多了个乐子,嘿嘿~~~写点材料,供大家参考)
就桥牌而言,美国是当今最强大的国家.历史悠久,巨星辈出,名将如云,名局名牌不胜枚举.
桥牌这种游戏,特别适合美国式思维方式,特别紧扣风险投入与产出回报这种资本主义经营
主题.这才使得桥牌之花,在美国土壤上开得尤其灿烂.
美国之于桥牌,犹中国之于乒乓.中国偶有失手于瑞典韩国,总体却长盛不衰,无人可抗.美
国桥牌在百慕大杯上被意大利蓝队一压20年,但始终是个劲敌.当一代意大利天才年华老去
之时,美国便取而代之,成为头号强国,他人只能望其项背.
桥界世界杯--百慕大杯,世界诸国各自所分配到的入场券只有一张,还要为争夺各大洲出线
权拼个死活.唯独美国可出两支代表队,还不受洲际限制.同属北美区的加拿大,墨西哥,百
慕大三个会员国,每次还要再打预选赛,头名方有参加百慕大资格.美国实力之强,可见一斑
.77年的百慕大杯,居然出现这种情形,美国两队会师决赛,一队是上届冠军,另一队是美国
本土选拔赛胜者.打那以后,世界桥联针对这种情形又明文规定,一旦前四名出现两支来自
同一地区的队伍,他们必须在半决赛中首先碰头.可世上只有美国可出 | w****b
发帖数: 623 | 2 Interesting article, but the description about Rose Meltzer is not fair. When
Rose's team was down by 90, she actually played the next 2 segments (or all,
can't remember) and got back some IMPs significantly to the extent that they
saw hope.
I've played against her a couple of times. It might be true that her bridge is
not top tier, but she surely is decent. Much better than Mr. Deutsch, the
client who has won all the major world championships.
举.
营
美
去
线
百
斑
国
自
该
统
北
Championship).
定
其
Spingo
【在 g**********y 的大作中提到】
: 1
: (沙龙里冒出不少牌迷,又多了个乐子,嘿嘿~~~写点材料,供大家参考)
: 就桥牌而言,美国是当今最强大的国家.历史悠久,巨星辈出,名将如云,名局名牌不胜枚举.
: 桥牌这种游戏,特别适合美国式思维方式,特别紧扣风险投入与产出回报这种资本主义经营
: 主题.这才使得桥牌之花,在美国土壤上开得尤其灿烂.
: 美国之于桥牌,犹中国之于乒乓.中国偶有失手于瑞典韩国,总体却长盛不衰,无人可抗.美
: 国桥牌在百慕大杯上被意大利蓝队一压20年,但始终是个劲敌.当一代意大利天才年华老去
: 之时,美国便取而代之,成为头号强国,他人只能望其项背.
: 桥界世界杯--百慕大杯,世界诸国各自所分配到的入场券只有一张,还要为争夺各大洲出线
: 权拼个死活.唯独美国可出两支代表队,还不受洲际限制.同属北美区的加拿大,墨西哥,百
| l*********r
发帖数: 65 | 3 Meltzer better han Deutsch? No way. She is a woman, and she started to play
only since 97. Deutsch was solid in the Olympiad.
When
is
Deutsch doesn't have the Bowl, and the Open Pairs ofc.
I will post 3 hands Metlzer played in the Bowl.
【在 w****b 的大作中提到】
: Interesting article, but the description about Rose Meltzer is not fair. When
: Rose's team was down by 90, she actually played the next 2 segments (or all,
: can't remember) and got back some IMPs significantly to the extent that they
: saw hope.
: I've played against her a couple of times. It might be true that her bridge is
: not top tier, but she surely is decent. Much better than Mr. Deutsch, the
: client who has won all the major world championships.
:
: 举.
: 营
| l*********r
发帖数: 65 | 4 Vul None
N:LARSEN
J9643
96
T832
T6
S:MELTZER
A
AKJT42
AK6
A97
N E S W
Pass Pass 2C Pass
2D Pass 2H Pass
2S Pass 3H Pass
3S Pass 4C Pass
4H Pass 6H Pass
Pass Pass
Other Room: 4H +420 | l*********r
发帖数: 65 | 5 Dealer West
Vul EW
Q95
KQT3
AKQ5
QT
MELTZER LARSEN
6 K843
J752 A986
J4 632
KJ9853 A4
AJT72
4
T987
762
W N E S
Pass 1D Pass 1S
Pass 2N Pass 3S
Pass 4S Pass Pass
Pass
W: H5-Q-A-4
E: CA-2-9-T
E: C4-6-K-Q
W: H2-T-6-C7
Other room: 3S/S +140 | l*********r
发帖数: 65 | 6 Dealer East
Vul None
Q
Q8653
Q843
K97
MELTZER LARSEN
AKT83 9754
J94 AT7
75 JT2
J85 QT3
J62
K2
AK96
A642
E S W N
Pass 1NT Pass 2D
Pass 2H Pass 3NT
W: S8-Q-5-6
N: H3-7-K-4
S: H2-9-Q-A
E: C3-2-J-K
N: H6-T-D6-HJ
W: SA-H5-S4-2
W: C5...... | c****u
发帖数: 3277 | 7 well, Rose Meltzer's bridge is really not bad. Actually her bidding is
rather strong. I have played against her and her team at regionals and
nationals for many times. She is one of the top women players in US.
Also, Charles Goren is a pro. He started his pro rather late, in his
late thirties. He was a lawyer before that, not successful. I want to
mention George Rosenkranz, Barry Crane, both are top players and famous
clients.
For both of them, their pro's bridge may not be as good as them. They
【在 g**********y 的大作中提到】
: 1
: (沙龙里冒出不少牌迷,又多了个乐子,嘿嘿~~~写点材料,供大家参考)
: 就桥牌而言,美国是当今最强大的国家.历史悠久,巨星辈出,名将如云,名局名牌不胜枚举.
: 桥牌这种游戏,特别适合美国式思维方式,特别紧扣风险投入与产出回报这种资本主义经营
: 主题.这才使得桥牌之花,在美国土壤上开得尤其灿烂.
: 美国之于桥牌,犹中国之于乒乓.中国偶有失手于瑞典韩国,总体却长盛不衰,无人可抗.美
: 国桥牌在百慕大杯上被意大利蓝队一压20年,但始终是个劲敌.当一代意大利天才年华老去
: 之时,美国便取而代之,成为头号强国,他人只能望其项背.
: 桥界世界杯--百慕大杯,世界诸国各自所分配到的入场券只有一张,还要为争夺各大洲出线
: 权拼个死活.唯独美国可出两支代表队,还不受洲际限制.同属北美区的加拿大,墨西哥,百
| g**********y
发帖数: 14569 | 8 lifemonster, are you 600? If you are, thanks for the good article.
BTW, chip martel is a math professor in UC-Davis, now in computer science
department, doing algorithm research. It's an intersting situation to imagine | l*********r
发帖数: 65 | 9 Yes I am the guy. Glad you are interested.
BTW, I post the series for entertaiment, hoping to get more beginners
interested and make them join the circle. So there isn't much technical stuff,
just to tell an interesting story. I expect ppl on this board already know
those things :-)
imagine
his
【在 g**********y 的大作中提到】
: lifemonster, are you 600? If you are, thanks for the good article.
: BTW, chip martel is a math professor in UC-Davis, now in computer science
: department, doing algorithm research. It's an intersting situation to imagine
| l*********r
发帖数: 65 | 10
Hey, she is a client. She pays for whatever she bids. :-)
I have played against her and her team at regionals and
She doesn't play Woman's event. Her team didn't do well since they won the
Bowl in 2001. Perhaps the fortune, or the chemistry, is gone.
Rosenkranz is the guy who invented bill control pill, which made him a
billionare. Among all of the clients, he probably is the best and is the only
client who actually plays better than some pros.
Crane is a special case. He's a great MP player bu
【在 c****u 的大作中提到】
: well, Rose Meltzer's bridge is really not bad. Actually her bidding is
: rather strong. I have played against her and her team at regionals and
: nationals for many times. She is one of the top women players in US.
: Also, Charles Goren is a pro. He started his pro rather late, in his
: late thirties. He was a lawyer before that, not successful. I want to
: mention George Rosenkranz, Barry Crane, both are top players and famous
: clients.
: For both of them, their pro's bridge may not be as good as them. They
| | | w****b
发帖数: 623 | 11 Well I can be convinced by facts :-) But I think our views are both biased by
personal feelings. The reason I like Rose perhaps is somewhat beyond bridge:
she's a client who actually behaves and I have never seen any frivolous
appeals from her. And she's very nice, too. A few anecdotes:
1. A pro (not one of those top notch) was playing with a client (against my
friend), the client was really rude, and then there was something that was
plainly normal going on (my friend actually told me the hands | c****u
发帖数: 3277 | 12 he is the dean!
【在 g**********y 的大作中提到】
: lifemonster, are you 600? If you are, thanks for the good article.
: BTW, chip martel is a math professor in UC-Davis, now in computer science
: department, doing algorithm research. It's an intersting situation to imagine
| c****u
发帖数: 3277 | 13 Many pro may not have enough time in refining
their bidding system with their regular partner,
because they have to play with intermediate clients all the time.
She's not a top player, but she's definitely a very fine player.
She spends a lot of time in refining her bidding and she has a very
solid understanding with Larsen. Her declarer play and defence may not
be excellent, however, bidding rules this game. Overally, she's still
a very fine flight A player I believe.
A team including Martel-
【在 l*********r 的大作中提到】
:
: Hey, she is a client. She pays for whatever she bids. :-)
: I have played against her and her team at regionals and
: She doesn't play Woman's event. Her team didn't do well since they won the
: Bowl in 2001. Perhaps the fortune, or the chemistry, is gone.
: Rosenkranz is the guy who invented bill control pill, which made him a
: billionare. Among all of the clients, he probably is the best and is the only
: client who actually plays better than some pros.
: Crane is a special case. He's a great MP player bu
| c****u
发帖数: 3277 | 14 the truth for bridge is that individual talent may not be that important
comparing with tough character, teamwork spirit and decipline I believe.
【在 w****b 的大作中提到】
: Well I can be convinced by facts :-) But I think our views are both biased by
: personal feelings. The reason I like Rose perhaps is somewhat beyond bridge:
: she's a client who actually behaves and I have never seen any frivolous
: appeals from her. And she's very nice, too. A few anecdotes:
: 1. A pro (not one of those top notch) was playing with a client (against my
: friend), the client was really rude, and then there was something that was
: plainly normal going on (my friend actually told me the hands
| l*********r
发帖数: 65 | 15
Tough competitor, that is! In fact this is not only true for bridge. It's true
for anything, everything. Tough character is more important than talent.
性格即命运.
【在 c****u 的大作中提到】
: the truth for bridge is that individual talent may not be that important
: comparing with tough character, teamwork spirit and decipline I believe.
| w****b
发帖数: 623 | 16 Totally agree, that's why bridge is never a kids' game and you will never see
genius in his teens to dominate the game. You need the maturity of the mind to
succeed.
by
bridge:
my
forgot),
coffee
make my
a
My
a
club
records
final
new
action,
this
play
fair.
(or
that
【在 c****u 的大作中提到】
: the truth for bridge is that individual talent may not be that important
: comparing with tough character, teamwork spirit and decipline I believe.
| w****b
发帖数: 623 | 17 I think bridge calls for more than just tough characters. It calls for wisdoms
such as giving up at the hopeless, how to deal with your/pd's/teammates
mistakes, having good assessment of yourself, etc. And, to actually succeed in
tournaments like ACBL's, you actually need organizational and communicational
skills off the table.
true
【在 l*********r 的大作中提到】
:
: Tough competitor, that is! In fact this is not only true for bridge. It's true
: for anything, everything. Tough character is more important than talent.
: 性格即命运.
| l*********r
发帖数: 65 | 18 Last night, kibitzed a game among Meltzer/devo(Peter Weichsel), Fred/Uday on
BBO, and this hand came up:
xx
x
KQxxx
AQ10xx
AKJx
KJx
AJxx
Kx
Meltzer opened 2NT. LHO(Uday) bid 4H. Weichsel bid 5NT, seems saying "pick up
a minor slam" but Meltzer bid 6NT anyway.
LHO led the 10 of spades, clearly doubleton or some shortness.
How would you play the hand? | w****b
发帖数: 623 | 19 Looks easy, you either have to bring in the C, or try for a strip squeeze
against E, when he has to protect both C and S. You run D to find out possible
distribution of E 1st.
If west shows more than 1D, then you come to the ending
- x - AQTx vs Ax KJ x. East will have to keep 2S and 3C so he can't keep any
H, and you endplay him with a S.
The worst case is when west shows a total of 3 cards in S and D, then you need
to guess whether he bid H with 7 or 8 cards.
up
【在 l*********r 的大作中提到】
: Last night, kibitzed a game among Meltzer/devo(Peter Weichsel), Fred/Uday on
: BBO, and this hand came up:
: xx
: x
: KQxxx
: AQ10xx
: AKJx
: KJx
: AJxx
: Kx
| l*********r
发帖数: 65 | 20 Right. I think at least technically, you should keep the strip squeeze in
mind. BTW that was a red 4H so you can believe 4H is not a joke but 8
solid.(I'm not gonna do detailed analysis here)
Therefore, to keep the squeeze possiblity, you have to retain your 4th spade
as the threat againt RHO, or the throw-in card.
In reality, Meltzer cashed all the diamonds pitching a SPADE. Clearly she was
relying everything on the club break and the squeeze ending wasn't in her
mind.
However, Uday later disca
【在 w****b 的大作中提到】
: Looks easy, you either have to bring in the C, or try for a strip squeeze
: against E, when he has to protect both C and S. You run D to find out possible
: distribution of E 1st.
: If west shows more than 1D, then you come to the ending
: - x - AQTx vs Ax KJ x. East will have to keep 2S and 3C so he can't keep any
: H, and you endplay him with a S.
: The worst case is when west shows a total of 3 cards in S and D, then you need
: to guess whether he bid H with 7 or 8 cards.
:
: up
| l*********r
发帖数: 65 | 21 You show your tough character at the table, not away from table.:-)
wisdoms
in
communicational
【在 w****b 的大作中提到】
: I think bridge calls for more than just tough characters. It calls for wisdoms
: such as giving up at the hopeless, how to deal with your/pd's/teammates
: mistakes, having good assessment of yourself, etc. And, to actually succeed in
: tournaments like ACBL's, you actually need organizational and communicational
: skills off the table.
:
: true
| f*****x
发帖数: 545 | 22 west seems have ha and long c, so you should play three rounds s, discard cx
from dummy, then play 5 rounds d, watching west's discard And east's card
Dummy leaves:
H:x
C:AQTX
DECLARER HAS:
S: (X)
H: KJ(X)
C: KX
east must have a spade at hand,
1) if u think east discard all heart, then lead c to k, then S throw out
2) Othewise, lead c to k, then hx throw out ,
up
【在 l*********r 的大作中提到】
: Last night, kibitzed a game among Meltzer/devo(Peter Weichsel), Fred/Uday on
: BBO, and this hand came up:
: xx
: x
: KQxxx
: AQ10xx
: AKJx
: KJx
: AJxx
: Kx
|
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