f*****x
发帖数: 545 | 1 game all, i sit south, holding:
S: A
H: QJ
D: AKQJ109XXX
C: X
opp pass during the bidding. I open 2c, pd 3c, then 3D-4C. I bid 4N asking for
aces.
if pd bid 5h, life is easy. I continue to 5n to see if he has any k. Actually
even if he doesnt have, i might still try 7n, coz there are chances we can
have a squeeze or finesse.
The problem is that if pd bids 5d, showing only 1 ace. should i bid 6d or
not then? if pd have h ace, i think should, if pd have club ace, then i have
to stop. bu | c****u
发帖数: 3277 | 2 I might bid 4D over 3C to setup trumps and invites partner to cuebid a
control. if he can cuebid 4H, I'll asking for aces(keycards), else, I'd
just sign off in 5D.
【在 f*****x 的大作中提到】
: game all, i sit south, holding:
: S: A
: H: QJ
: D: AKQJ109XXX
: C: X
: opp pass during the bidding. I open 2c, pd 3c, then 3D-4C. I bid 4N asking for
: aces.
: if pd bid 5h, life is easy. I continue to 5n to see if he has any k. Actually
: even if he doesnt have, i might still try 7n, coz there are chances we can
: have a squeeze or finesse.
| w****b
发帖数: 623 | 3 I think there's some merit to treat 4D as splinter in such sequence,
especially if the response is constructive, i.e, promises 2 of the 3 top
honors.
The idea is that there's a good chance that 2C opener has a long solid suit,
so the responder should often treat opener's rebid of suit as that. On the
other hand, strong 4-4-4-1 (or 5-4-3-1) hands are always the hardest to treat.
So after the constructive response, and opener's suit bid, generally
responder's any rebid should be cuebid, assuming o
【在 c****u 的大作中提到】
: I might bid 4D over 3C to setup trumps and invites partner to cuebid a
: control. if he can cuebid 4H, I'll asking for aces(keycards), else, I'd
: just sign off in 5D.
| g**********y
发帖数: 14569 | 4 gloomyturkey is the other party involved in this bidding :-)
This is the hand:
SQx HAxxx Dx CAKJ10xx
2C - 3C(mine) - 3D - ?
after hearing 3D, I am far from sure that Diamond will be our trump. Since I
assume 22HCP from pd, for this hand, I can imagine 6C, 6H, or 6NT(most
likely).
At that moment, I want to show my slam interest, so skip 3NT and bid 4C.
Afterwards, I think maybe it's better to bid 3H -- further describe my hand. I
can always push later. Because my p won't stay at 3H, that's for su
【在 w****b 的大作中提到】
: I think there's some merit to treat 4D as splinter in such sequence,
: especially if the response is constructive, i.e, promises 2 of the 3 top
: honors.
: The idea is that there's a good chance that 2C opener has a long solid suit,
: so the responder should often treat opener's rebid of suit as that. On the
: other hand, strong 4-4-4-1 (or 5-4-3-1) hands are always the hardest to treat.
: So after the constructive response, and opener's suit bid, generally
: responder's any rebid should be cuebid, assuming o
| c****u
发帖数: 3277 | 5 this is really not an easy hand to bid. perhaps 4C over 2C to show a very
strong suit and set up trumps? anyway, 2C 3C does take up a lot of bidding
space. perhaps 3C then 3H over 3D works well, then later pull 3NT to 4C,
however, even after that, it's very hard to ask for KC, since
4NT by opener would be to play.
【在 g**********y 的大作中提到】
: gloomyturkey is the other party involved in this bidding :-)
: This is the hand:
: SQx HAxxx Dx CAKJ10xx
: 2C - 3C(mine) - 3D - ?
: after hearing 3D, I am far from sure that Diamond will be our trump. Since I
: assume 22HCP from pd, for this hand, I can imagine 6C, 6H, or 6NT(most
: likely).
: At that moment, I want to show my slam interest, so skip 3NT and bid 4C.
: Afterwards, I think maybe it's better to bid 3H -- further describe my hand. I
: can always push later. Because my p won't stay at 3H, that's for su
| c****u
发帖数: 3277 | 6 this is a tough sequence.
I am not sure which way works better, perhaps I should do some
simulations. still, responder may have a strong suit, so if we play this style,
2C - 4C should be set up trumps and ask for cuebid. also, we may have some
trouble in looking for 4-4 fit in majors since 3H/s are cuebids now.
perhaps we can play it two way, either a cuebid for C or real suit. so
if we raise D at the next round, it's a cuebid, named pre-cuebid
for those rubber bridge players. If we bid anything
【在 w****b 的大作中提到】
: I think there's some merit to treat 4D as splinter in such sequence,
: especially if the response is constructive, i.e, promises 2 of the 3 top
: honors.
: The idea is that there's a good chance that 2C opener has a long solid suit,
: so the responder should often treat opener's rebid of suit as that. On the
: other hand, strong 4-4-4-1 (or 5-4-3-1) hands are always the hardest to treat.
: So after the constructive response, and opener's suit bid, generally
: responder's any rebid should be cuebid, assuming o
| w****b
发帖数: 623 | 7 Perhaps this old fashioned sequence is conceivable:
2C-3C(constructive)
3D-3H(cuebid; could be lack of directions)
4D(solid, set trump)-4H(confirms 1st round)
4N(one HA shows, safe to ask key card in D)-5H(2 without)
5N(confirms all key, specific K)-6C(CK)
7N(you can count 13 tricks)
I
hand. I
not
suit,
the
【在 c****u 的大作中提到】
: this is really not an easy hand to bid. perhaps 4C over 2C to show a very
: strong suit and set up trumps? anyway, 2C 3C does take up a lot of bidding
: space. perhaps 3C then 3H over 3D works well, then later pull 3NT to 4C,
: however, even after that, it's very hard to ask for KC, since
: 4NT by opener would be to play.
| w****b
发帖数: 623 | 8 BTW for this hand, those respond to 2C with control would be easy: 2C-whatever
shows 5 controls -7N.
Since
of
top
【在 w****b 的大作中提到】
: Perhaps this old fashioned sequence is conceivable:
: 2C-3C(constructive)
: 3D-3H(cuebid; could be lack of directions)
: 4D(solid, set trump)-4H(confirms 1st round)
: 4N(one HA shows, safe to ask key card in D)-5H(2 without)
: 5N(confirms all key, specific K)-6C(CK)
: 7N(you can count 13 tricks)
:
: I
: hand. I
| w****b
发帖数: 623 | 9 If responder has 2 suits, even if they are 6-4, especially if 1st suit is C or
D's, it probably makes sense to start with 2D waiting, instead of showing a
constructive suit -- or the inference of constructive suit response is that it
tends to be a single suited hand. That could get around the problem (for
missing 4-4 fit), as now opener generally has space to bid 2nd suit if
something like 5-4-3-1.
style,
suit,
treat.
if
asking
【在 c****u 的大作中提到】
: this is a tough sequence.
: I am not sure which way works better, perhaps I should do some
: simulations. still, responder may have a strong suit, so if we play this style,
: 2C - 4C should be set up trumps and ask for cuebid. also, we may have some
: trouble in looking for 4-4 fit in majors since 3H/s are cuebids now.
: perhaps we can play it two way, either a cuebid for C or real suit. so
: if we raise D at the next round, it's a cuebid, named pre-cuebid
: for those rubber bridge players. If we bid anything
| c****u
发帖数: 3277 | 10 it might not work sometimes though,
2C 2D
3D 3H?
3H should garantee 5+ cards, so we still may miss 4-4 fit in H.
There are still some really awful sequences,
2C 3D
4C 4S....
now we are at 4 level, still might not find a fit.
this sequence seems better:
2C 2D
3C 3D
3X ....
that means if it's 6D+ 4M, it's always good to wait first. if it's
6C+ 4S, 3C would still be good if partner's suit is D,
2D would be good if partner's suit is H, for both cases,
we can bid our C and S at 3 level, not 4 level.
【在 w****b 的大作中提到】
: If responder has 2 suits, even if they are 6-4, especially if 1st suit is C or
: D's, it probably makes sense to start with 2D waiting, instead of showing a
: constructive suit -- or the inference of constructive suit response is that it
: tends to be a single suited hand. That could get around the problem (for
: missing 4-4 fit), as now opener generally has space to bid 2nd suit if
: something like 5-4-3-1.
:
: style,
: suit,
: treat.
| | | w****b
发帖数: 623 | 11
I think it's ok to play 3H to guarantee good 4H or lousy 5H. After all you
already have the inference from the failure of a 2NT response (to show H).
2C-3D to me almost denies any feature outside D as that just takes too much
bidding space, otherwise you might want to wait even if you have a good 6D
suit. So this sequence to me sounds like a cuebid with short S, but good baby
C's.
Also when you open 2C followed by a positive, GF response, I think it's
alright to find 4-4 fit on 5 level. As if y
【在 c****u 的大作中提到】
: it might not work sometimes though,
: 2C 2D
: 3D 3H?
: 3H should garantee 5+ cards, so we still may miss 4-4 fit in H.
: There are still some really awful sequences,
: 2C 3D
: 4C 4S....
: now we are at 4 level, still might not find a fit.
: this sequence seems better:
: 2C 2D
| f*****x
发帖数: 545 | 12
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
this is really what i thougt at that time. i was really worried that pd might
pass, though luckily he didnot:)
I
hand. I
not
suit,
the
【在 c****u 的大作中提到】
: this is really not an easy hand to bid. perhaps 4C over 2C to show a very
: strong suit and set up trumps? anyway, 2C 3C does take up a lot of bidding
: space. perhaps 3C then 3H over 3D works well, then later pull 3NT to 4C,
: however, even after that, it's very hard to ask for KC, since
: 4NT by opener would be to play.
| f*****x
发帖数: 545 | 13 ok, another question: if pd has two aces but no k, will you stop at 6n? will
you try 7d? there is really chance for squeeze or finesse. actually i was
planning to go to 7 level anyway. though pd's one k makes it a laydown【 在
wimptb (一失足成千古wimp) 的大作中提到: 】
Since
of
top | f*****x
发帖数: 545 | 14 that is cool【 在 wimptb (一失足成千古wimp) 的大作中提到: 】
2C-whatever
very
bidding
4C.
can
instead | f*****x
发帖数: 545 | 15 get lost:(【 在 wimptb (一失足成千古wimp) 的大作中提到: 】
baby | w****b
发帖数: 623 | 16 I think going to 7 in that case would still be reasonable but perhaps 7D
offers a bit more chance, especially if the lead is not a rounded-suit --
you'll probably get a trump lead in 7D. And the chance should be better than a
finesse.
very
bidding
4C.
can
instead
【在 f*****x 的大作中提到】
: ok, another question: if pd has two aces but no k, will you stop at 6n? will
: you try 7d? there is really chance for squeeze or finesse. actually i was
: planning to go to 7 level anyway. though pd's one k makes it a laydown【 在
: wimptb (一失足成千古wimp) 的大作中提到: 】
: Since
: of
: top
| a*******s
发帖数: 295 | 17 What I see is that the problem is 2C opening,
I don't think this hand qualify a 2C opening.
"9+ tricks and must include 2+ defensive tricks outside the main suit." :)
More important, my first concern is the necessity instead of the
qualification.
In other words, ask myself whether I should open 2C with this hand rather than
whether this hand is good enough for it.
it's not necessary to open 2C with this hand, because I cannot imagine that
the bidding goes "1D pass pass and pass all."(Well, that
【在 f*****x 的大作中提到】
: game all, i sit south, holding:
: S: A
: H: QJ
: D: AKQJ109XXX
: C: X
: opp pass during the bidding. I open 2c, pd 3c, then 3D-4C. I bid 4N asking for
: aces.
: if pd bid 5h, life is easy. I continue to 5n to see if he has any k. Actually
: even if he doesnt have, i might still try 7n, coz there are chances we can
: have a squeeze or finesse.
| c****u
发帖数: 3277 | 18 you have no good rebid if partner bids 1H/S/NT over 1D.
【在 a*******s 的大作中提到】
: What I see is that the problem is 2C opening,
: I don't think this hand qualify a 2C opening.
: "9+ tricks and must include 2+ defensive tricks outside the main suit." :)
: More important, my first concern is the necessity instead of the
: qualification.
: In other words, ask myself whether I should open 2C with this hand rather than
: whether this hand is good enough for it.
: it's not necessary to open 2C with this hand, because I cannot imagine that
: the bidding goes "1D pass pass and pass all."(Well, that
| a*******s
发帖数: 295 | 19 if you have to force a round more, 3C, like Kokish will do
than
that
it
easier.
But
asking
can
6d or
have
is
【在 c****u 的大作中提到】
: you have no good rebid if partner bids 1H/S/NT over 1D.
| b***n
发帖数: 13455 | 20 I would bid 4NT, and end up 7NT. Because I would think he has 20+pts and a
strong D suit, not way to skip a slam. After learning about his 2 As and 1K,
I would look for a good chance of CQ in his hand (although not), why not for
7? Of course if using system like Blue Club System, there would be no risk
to finish up at 7NT
【在 g**********y 的大作中提到】
: gloomyturkey is the other party involved in this bidding :-)
: This is the hand:
: SQx HAxxx Dx CAKJ10xx
: 2C - 3C(mine) - 3D - ?
: after hearing 3D, I am far from sure that Diamond will be our trump. Since I
: assume 22HCP from pd, for this hand, I can imagine 6C, 6H, or 6NT(most
: likely).
: At that moment, I want to show my slam interest, so skip 3NT and bid 4C.
: Afterwards, I think maybe it's better to bid 3H -- further describe my hand. I
: can always push later. Because my p won't stay at 3H, that's for su
| | | f*****x
发帖数: 545 | 21 i think it is not a good idea to bid 4n with gloomy's hand, coz even if you
know i have two aces, u r still not sure if we have enough tricks or not. If
there is any hand ever to bid 4n, it should be south, i.e., my hand, i think.
I
hand. I
not
suit,
the
【在 b***n 的大作中提到】
: I would bid 4NT, and end up 7NT. Because I would think he has 20+pts and a
: strong D suit, not way to skip a slam. After learning about his 2 As and 1K,
: I would look for a good chance of CQ in his hand (although not), why not for
: 7? Of course if using system like Blue Club System, there would be no risk
: to finish up at 7NT
| f*****x
发帖数: 545 | 22 the problem with open 1d is that if pd respond 2c, and you 3d, showing ur good
d suit, but pd may still not know you hold such good and long suit(it is
really unusual!)
i still think the key point here is to find pd hold the right ace and right k.
one possibility is to use cuebid, but cuebid might mean 2nd roiund control,
which is not much meaningful here, especially if pd cuebid 4c showing his ck
or 4s showing sk【 在 arrowhits (箭笑江湖) 的大作中提到: 】
rather
that
yet.
i | f*****x
发帖数: 545 | 23 there is still a problem, i just realize. if pd have sk, hk, c a, and k, then
he has 5 control but still no 7【 在 wimptb (一失足成千古wimp) 的大作中提到:
】
2C-whatever
very
bidding
4C.
can
instead | w****b
发帖数: 623 | 24 Good point... so maybe after 2C-5control-4N is still regular blackwood --
playing invitational seems a bit off, and it certainly is not pick a slam.
Actually, opening this hand with 4N, blackwood, may not be too bad. The merit
is that if pd responds with 1A, this can be the only way to play 6D from pd's
hand, when he has something like HA, and a black K; if he has CA, you may
still have chance if lead is not a H. If 2A's, you can ask K again and
whenever he has a K 7N is cold. If no A, and pd ha
【在 f*****x 的大作中提到】
: there is still a problem, i just realize. if pd have sk, hk, c a, and k, then
: he has 5 control but still no 7【 在 wimptb (一失足成千古wimp) 的大作中提到:
: 】
: 2C-whatever
: very
: bidding
: 4C.
: can
: instead
| g**********y
发帖数: 14569 | 25 I still think your previous sequence is most appropriate:
Just don't think that hand qualifies 2C open. A little change in beginning:
1D - 2C (2/1, game forcing)
3D (6+ strong diamond, good hand) - 3H (descriptive)
...
The problem with that hand is: in a bad day, you don't have ANY game to play.
With a 4NT openning, basically, you push yourself to a uncertain gamble. If
you can check ammunition before fire, why not do so?
merit
pd's
a
anyway | c****u
发帖数: 3277 | 26 the problem is that you might not always hear partner responds 2C
when you open 1D. you often have no good rebid if partner bids 1H/S/NT,
well, arrows suggests a 3C rebid, usually it shows at least 4 clubs, but now
... I am just wondering this might happen sometimes:
1D 1N
3C ?
wow, 7C is possible when I hold:
SKQx Hxxx D- CAxxxxxx
but I don't know how to ask for key cards,
ok, let's try 6C only,
1D 1N
3C 6C
oops, I'd rather bid 6D,
1D 1N
3C 6C
6D ?
can I correct it to 7C? perhaps may not have
【在 g**********y 的大作中提到】
: I still think your previous sequence is most appropriate:
: Just don't think that hand qualifies 2C open. A little change in beginning:
: 1D - 2C (2/1, game forcing)
: 3D (6+ strong diamond, good hand) - 3H (descriptive)
: ...
: The problem with that hand is: in a bad day, you don't have ANY game to play.
: With a 4NT openning, basically, you push yourself to a uncertain gamble. If
: you can check ammunition before fire, why not do so?
: merit
: pd's
| w****b
发帖数: 623 | 27 I think it's more reasonable to relax 2C opening requirement to be 2 controls
outside main suit. Otherwise you really will have a hard time when a running
suit plus a side Ace. I guarantee you, you will not be able to convey this to
your pd in subsequent bidding, especially when you open on 1 level, this gives
oppo more chances to interfere.
Do you think your job is easier with 1D-P-1S-3H/C, or how about
1D-1S/H-x-4S/H-? You are still in complete darkness. The other factor is the
preemptive valu
【在 a*******s 的大作中提到】
: What I see is that the problem is 2C opening,
: I don't think this hand qualify a 2C opening.
: "9+ tricks and must include 2+ defensive tricks outside the main suit." :)
: More important, my first concern is the necessity instead of the
: qualification.
: In other words, ask myself whether I should open 2C with this hand rather than
: whether this hand is good enough for it.
: it's not necessary to open 2C with this hand, because I cannot imagine that
: the bidding goes "1D pass pass and pass all."(Well, that
| f*****x
发帖数: 545 | 28 i think maybe we should distinguish two kind hand: one kind is that needs only
pd's control, the second is that needs control and extra tricks support from
pd. the hand here belongs to the first type. So can we make convention that a
sequence like 2c-3c-4d-4h-4n
here 4d is an unnecessary jump, telling pd that i donot need ur suit, just
tell me if u have ace and k.
the 2nd type is a hand like:
S: AQJX
H: KX
D:AKQXX
C:KX
Then the bid might go like this:2c-3c-3s... or 2c-2d-2s...
the a
【在 w****b 的大作中提到】
: Good point... so maybe after 2C-5control-4N is still regular blackwood --
: playing invitational seems a bit off, and it certainly is not pick a slam.
: Actually, opening this hand with 4N, blackwood, may not be too bad. The merit
: is that if pd responds with 1A, this can be the only way to play 6D from pd's
: hand, when he has something like HA, and a black K; if he has CA, you may
: still have chance if lead is not a H. If 2A's, you can ask K again and
: whenever he has a K 7N is cold. If no A, and pd ha
| f*****x
发帖数: 545 | 29 do u really like 3c after 1h/s/nt? i donot like it, it will more often be a
suit rather than a short, right? I still prefer more natural and pd-friendly
convention.
i played a hand on bbo sth like this:
pd open 2n
I hold
S:AKJXX
H:AQJXX
D:KX
C:X
I LEAP TO 7N
PD HOLDS:
S:X
H:X
D:QJXXXX
C:JXXXX
you can imagine the result:) 【 在 cozofu (但为君故) 的大作中提到: 】
beginning:
play.
If | f*****x
发帖数: 545 | 30 seems most agree opening 2c with that hand:)
3h should be suit, at least with control, like AQX
I just thought maybe we can jump to 4d after 3c showing a particular type
hand, which just need pd's control and no extra trick spt. then pd can cuebid
after 4d. Even if it is major suit. it is still straightforward, after pd
respnded postively, jumping to 4h/s showing a solid suit and seeking only ace
and king
play.
holds a weak hand. after ur 1d, pd 1s, then u 3d, pd 3h, and u?
have
can
【在 g**********y 的大作中提到】
: I still think your previous sequence is most appropriate:
: Just don't think that hand qualifies 2C open. A little change in beginning:
: 1D - 2C (2/1, game forcing)
: 3D (6+ strong diamond, good hand) - 3H (descriptive)
: ...
: The problem with that hand is: in a bad day, you don't have ANY game to play.
: With a 4NT openning, basically, you push yourself to a uncertain gamble. If
: you can check ammunition before fire, why not do so?
: merit
: pd's
| | | a*******s
发帖数: 295 | 31 I only have a simple logic,
if you can handle this kind of hand(your example) by opening 2C,
why can't I handle the same thing with 1D opening and more
bidding room?
Second, you create your problem by leaping to 6C, not my problem.
Moreover, in reality, the so-called rebid problem probably
never exists. Holding a eight card suit, do you really
believe the bidding will still be at one leve when the buck
passed to you next round? If this is the case, the only possible
reason I can see is that opps
【在 c****u 的大作中提到】
: the problem is that you might not always hear partner responds 2C
: when you open 1D. you often have no good rebid if partner bids 1H/S/NT,
: well, arrows suggests a 3C rebid, usually it shows at least 4 clubs, but now
: ... I am just wondering this might happen sometimes:
: 1D 1N
: 3C ?
: wow, 7C is possible when I hold:
: SKQx Hxxx D- CAxxxxxx
: but I don't know how to ask for key cards,
: ok, let's try 6C only,
| c****u
发帖数: 3277 | 32 the point is that for single suit strong hands,
you would always have rebidding problems if you open one level,
because the basic framework in bridge bidding is that:
new suit forcing, not rebidding your own suit forcing.
So no matter how hard you try, you would always have rebidding problems.
You may argue that you can survive it. However, if you often jump to
3C with doubleton or singleton, your partner would never be able to
raise you. next time, when you have a real two suiter hand, you woul
【在 a*******s 的大作中提到】
: I only have a simple logic,
: if you can handle this kind of hand(your example) by opening 2C,
: why can't I handle the same thing with 1D opening and more
: bidding room?
: Second, you create your problem by leaping to 6C, not my problem.
: Moreover, in reality, the so-called rebid problem probably
: never exists. Holding a eight card suit, do you really
: believe the bidding will still be at one leve when the buck
: passed to you next round? If this is the case, the only possible
: reason I can see is that opps
| a*******s
发帖数: 295 | 33 This hand might demonstate that how first class experts
handle this kind of bidding problem.
IMP-21 papi Dlr: East
Board 694 S 2 Vul: E-W
H AQ
katar D AKQ986 saverio
S 96 C K872 S T7
H KJT8742 H 95
D 3 lupin D JT542
C T95 S AKQJ8543 C QJ63
H 63
D 7
C A4
West North East South
katar papi saverio lupin
Pass 1S
Pass 2D
【在 a*******s 的大作中提到】
: What I see is that the problem is 2C opening,
: I don't think this hand qualify a 2C opening.
: "9+ tricks and must include 2+ defensive tricks outside the main suit." :)
: More important, my first concern is the necessity instead of the
: qualification.
: In other words, ask myself whether I should open 2C with this hand rather than
: whether this hand is good enough for it.
: it's not necessary to open 2C with this hand, because I cannot imagine that
: the bidding goes "1D pass pass and pass all."(Well, that
| c****u
发帖数: 3277 | 34 The point is that everybody would find 7 NT no mater what he opened.
Also, when the solid suit is major, you usually have more gadgets, because
you may bid 4D over partner's 1NT as splinter to show this kind
of hands. Still, I'd bid 4D with AKQJxxx HQxx Dx CAx. you need partner
to provide three cover cards, something like this: Sx HAKxx Dxxx CKxxxx.
If you open 1S, you still may get passed out if partner holds S- Hxxxxx DJxxxx
CKxx. nobody would save you, because both opponents may hold 3 spades
【在 a*******s 的大作中提到】
: This hand might demonstate that how first class experts
: handle this kind of bidding problem.
: IMP-21 papi Dlr: East
: Board 694 S 2 Vul: E-W
: H AQ
: katar D AKQ986 saverio
: S 96 C K872 S T7
: H KJT8742 H 95
: D 3 lupin D JT542
: C T95 S AKQJ8543 C QJ63
| a*******s
发帖数: 295 | 35 of course everybody would find 7NT, so it's not the point here.
The point is that they do NOT open 2C and I appreciate it. :)
I 've never seen a passout after a 8-card suit opened at one level,
that's all.
DJxxxx
preemptive
destructive
【在 c****u 的大作中提到】
: The point is that everybody would find 7 NT no mater what he opened.
: Also, when the solid suit is major, you usually have more gadgets, because
: you may bid 4D over partner's 1NT as splinter to show this kind
: of hands. Still, I'd bid 4D with AKQJxxx HQxx Dx CAx. you need partner
: to provide three cover cards, something like this: Sx HAKxx Dxxx CKxxxx.
: If you open 1S, you still may get passed out if partner holds S- Hxxxxx DJxxxx
: CKxx. nobody would save you, because both opponents may hold 3 spades
| c****u
发帖数: 3277 | 36 because not everybody open 1s with such a strong hand as you do.
Also, I can't say lupin is very strong. Even Garozzo is getting too old now.
You haven't met doesn't mean you won't meet it in the future. How many
8-card-solid-suit-nine-trick hands do you have every year? At most once!
You can keep playing whatever you like, however, you'll lose more if you go on
playing this style in a long run, mainly because your partner would never
be comfortable to raise you whenever you make a jump shift. T
【在 a*******s 的大作中提到】
: of course everybody would find 7NT, so it's not the point here.
: The point is that they do NOT open 2C and I appreciate it. :)
: I 've never seen a passout after a 8-card suit opened at one level,
: that's all.
:
: DJxxxx
: preemptive
: destructive
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