b***n
发帖数: 13455 | 1 bidding process (No one):
N E S W
- 1D - 1H
- 2H - -
?
You are in north, you have:
S: A J 6 5
H: x x x
D: A
C: x x x x x
Now, what do you want to do? Pass? or bid?
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y****e
发帖数: 71 | 2
正常情况，应该叫牌。加倍似乎不错，即便4－3黑桃也有可打性。
叫牌－不叫，可参考总墩数定律。
但是，如果是复式比赛，当你对对手叫牌法有所了解，可以不叫。
如果对手倾向于叫牌稳妥。而且，复式比赛，这种牌不象两面得分
的牌。有时平衡叫牌反而逼对方进局。
【在 b***n 的大作中提到】
: bidding process (No one):
: N E S W
: - 1D - 1H
: - 2H - -
: ?
: You are in north, you have:
: S: A J 6 5
: H: x x x
: D: A
: C: x x x x x
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b***n
发帖数: 13455 | 3 Actually, I bid 2S and made this contract.
【在 y****e 的大作中提到】
:
: 正常情况，应该叫牌。加倍似乎不错，即便4－3黑桃也有可打性。
: 叫牌－不叫，可参考总墩数定律。
: 但是，如果是复式比赛，当你对对手叫牌法有所了解，可以不叫。
: 如果对手倾向于叫牌稳妥。而且，复式比赛，这种牌不象两面得分
: 的牌。有时平衡叫牌反而逼对方进局。
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c****u
发帖数: 3277 | 4 pass
【在 b***n 的大作中提到】
: bidding process (No one):
: N E S W
: - 1D - 1H
: - 2H - -
: ?
: You are in north, you have:
: S: A J 6 5
: H: x x x
: D: A
: C: x x x x x
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c****u
发帖数: 3277 | 5 你要是愿意完全可以在一阶做这个加倍。
【在 b***n 的大作中提到】
: Actually, I bid 2S and made this contract.
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w**n
发帖数: 244 | 6 It's not good to bid dbl in the first round since you
don't know if opps hold strong hand or not. If you bid
dbl in the first round, with moderate hand, Opps may
bid game just because of your kindly "dbl". The situation
changes a lot in the second round after the bidding.
I prefer bidding dbl in the second round.
【在 c****u 的大作中提到】
: 你要是愿意完全可以在一阶做这个加倍。
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b***n
发帖数: 13455 | 7 I agree with u, that's just what I thought at that time. From N-E's bidding,
I thought they had just average pts, and not S suit. It's most likely my pard
had 4 (at least 3) spades with 8-9 pts. So I bid 2S. His hand was:
S: 10 8 7 2
H: x x
D: J 10 9 8
C: A K x
【在 w**n 的大作中提到】
: It's not good to bid dbl in the first round since you
: don't know if opps hold strong hand or not. If you bid
: dbl in the first round, with moderate hand, Opps may
: bid game just because of your kindly "dbl". The situation
: changes a lot in the second round after the bidding.
: I prefer bidding dbl in the second round.
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c****u
发帖数: 3277 | 8 同样的问题一样会出现如果你在二阶平衡, 敌方如果有余力打三阶定约，依然可能会
因为你的平衡性叫品而在三阶做试探，最后叫到四阶, 而同时在二阶平衡增加了
被惩罚的机会.而在一阶叫加倍，最后被惩罚的可能要小得多. 所以我非常不赞成
最后在二阶的平衡，因为这不很合乎逻辑, 因为如果要叫，就该尽量早叫，而非
拖到敌方的信息交流之后再叫。这牌你碰到同伴长四个黑桃是运气，
下回他可能只有两个, 而有一串长草花，敌人也不加倍，就让你打2sp, down 3-4个
也是很正常的。
【在 w**n 的大作中提到】
: It's not good to bid dbl in the first round since you
: don't know if opps hold strong hand or not. If you bid
: dbl in the first round, with moderate hand, Opps may
: bid game just because of your kindly "dbl". The situation
: changes a lot in the second round after the bidding.
: I prefer bidding dbl in the second round.
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y****e
发帖数: 71 | 9 MP制，我会在第一轮叫加倍。
复式，一路Pass。
更加同意cozofu。记得我们有一次打牌，1C－1S－2S之后，应叫方Pass，敌人平衡加倍。
开叫人有额外实力，最后4S叫成并打成。其实是开叫方叫弱了，但没有损失。呵呵。
【在 c****u 的大作中提到】
: 同样的问题一样会出现如果你在二阶平衡, 敌方如果有余力打三阶定约，依然可能会
: 因为你的平衡性叫品而在三阶做试探，最后叫到四阶, 而同时在二阶平衡增加了
: 被惩罚的机会.而在一阶叫加倍，最后被惩罚的可能要小得多. 所以我非常不赞成
: 最后在二阶的平衡，因为这不很合乎逻辑, 因为如果要叫，就该尽量早叫，而非
: 拖到敌方的信息交流之后再叫。这牌你碰到同伴长四个黑桃是运气，
: 下回他可能只有两个, 而有一串长草花，敌人也不加倍，就让你打2sp, down 3-4个
: 也是很正常的。
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y***i
发帖数: 34 | 10
i would select double in duplicate since you may get a good score even if you are
doubled, set 1,and get -100. the opps may have 2H and get 110. even not in duplicate, i still think
it is good to double to show other two suits. i would not double in 1 round
because i do not have 3 suits except H.
【在 y****e 的大作中提到】
: MP制，我会在第一轮叫加倍。
: 复式，一路Pass。
: 更加同意cozofu。记得我们有一次打牌，1C－1S－2S之后，应叫方Pass，敌人平衡加倍。
: 开叫人有额外实力，最后4S叫成并打成。其实是开叫方叫弱了，但没有损失。呵呵。
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c****u
发帖数: 3277 | 11
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
faint, 再看看叫牌进程。这不是第二家，是第四家，在1d-1h之后的.这个加倍当然现示
双套牌
这时候该不该叫我不评论，这是风格问题，因为有些人保守，有些人激进，
但在这时如果不叫，而在后来再叫，就不是风格问题，而是一个错误, 因为不自洽.
【在 y***i 的大作中提到】
:
: i would select double in duplicate since you may get a good score even if you are
: doubled, set 1,and get -100. the opps may have 2H and get 110. even not in duplicate, i still think
: it is good to double to show other two suits. i would not double in 1 round
: because i do not have 3 suits except H.
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s**********i
发帖数: 711 | 12
I would say none of pass or double/2S reopening is wrong.
I would also pass the first round, but for the second round, I may
pass for rubber/team play, but definitely bid 2S or double for duplicate
games.
reopening below 2S is normal.
【在 c****u 的大作中提到】
:
: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
: faint, 再看看叫牌进程。这不是第二家，是第四家，在1d-1h之后的.这个加倍当然现示
: 双套牌
: 这时候该不该叫我不评论，这是风格问题，因为有些人保守，有些人激进，
: 但在这时如果不叫，而在后来再叫，就不是风格问题，而是一个错误, 因为不自洽.
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w**n
发帖数: 244 | 13 I agree with u concerning the part of punishment. As for the second
dbl, from the bidding, we are quite sure that Opps hold at most 23
HCP. I don't think they will try to reach game with 1D-1H-2H-Pass.
Even 3H is in jeopardy. In addition, dbl is better than 2S in my
opinion.
【在 c****u 的大作中提到】
: 同样的问题一样会出现如果你在二阶平衡, 敌方如果有余力打三阶定约，依然可能会
: 因为你的平衡性叫品而在三阶做试探，最后叫到四阶, 而同时在二阶平衡增加了
: 被惩罚的机会.而在一阶叫加倍，最后被惩罚的可能要小得多. 所以我非常不赞成
: 最后在二阶的平衡，因为这不很合乎逻辑, 因为如果要叫，就该尽量早叫，而非
: 拖到敌方的信息交流之后再叫。这牌你碰到同伴长四个黑桃是运气，
: 下回他可能只有两个, 而有一串长草花，敌人也不加倍，就让你打2sp, down 3-4个
: 也是很正常的。
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w**n
发帖数: 244 | 14
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:-)
【在 c****u 的大作中提到】
:
: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
: faint, 再看看叫牌进程。这不是第二家，是第四家，在1d-1h之后的.这个加倍当然现示
: 双套牌
: 这时候该不该叫我不评论，这是风格问题，因为有些人保守，有些人激进，
: 但在这时如果不叫，而在后来再叫，就不是风格问题，而是一个错误, 因为不自洽.
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k**y
发帖数: 320 | 15 要是第一轮没争叫的话，我是不会叫的。能打成是幸运。
【在 b***n 的大作中提到】
: I agree with u, that's just what I thought at that time. From N-E's bidding,
: I thought they had just average pts, and not S suit. It's most likely my pard
: had 4 (at least 3) spades with 8-9 pts. So I bid 2S. His hand was:
: S: 10 8 7 2
: H: x x
: D: J 10 9 8
: C: A K x
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r**********e
发帖数: 67 | 16
Takeout dbl is generally used by bridge in netscape
it is effective through 3 c, but it depends on the conv of the pair of Ps
Bidding double at first chance of bidding generally means that---p, choose the suit
has not been been bidden pls, I have some strong cards and enough to open and weak in
the suit that have been bidden "
【在 k**y 的大作中提到】
: 要是第一轮没争叫的话，我是不会叫的。能打成是幸运。
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r**********e
发帖数: 67 | 17
I won't pass at the second bidding ...
if I had to bid at third time, I will try bid 2 spade or 3 c....depends the p's habit,,
【在 c****u 的大作中提到】
: pass
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a*******s
发帖数: 295 | 18 you are lucky! :>
I 'll X without any hesitation. Ok, maybe a little when
unfavorable vulerability.
What i am thinking about is another interesting question.
Suppose you call X , How do you and your partner definite the
2NT reply by South in this situation. And is there any difference
when opponent's suit is spade?
【在 b***n 的大作中提到】
: Actually, I bid 2S and made this contract.
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