a****5
发帖数: 747 | 1 这两天看完了Malcolm Gladwell's non-fiction book, "Outliers: The Story of
Success". Could not put it down so I was able to finish it in 2 days.
Very interesting and highly recommended.
Here is some introduction from Wikipedia about this book:
Outliers: The Story of Success is a non-fiction book written by Malcolm
Gladwell and published by Little, Brown and Company on November 18, 2008. In
Outliers, Gladwell examines the factors that contribute to high levels of
success. To support his thesis, he examines the causes of why the majority
of Canadian ice hockey players are born in the first few months of the
calendar year, how Microsoft co-founder Bill Gates achieved his extreme
wealth, how The Beatles became one of the most successful musical acts in
human history, how Joseph Flom built Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher & Flom
into one of the most successful law firms in the world, how cultural
differences play a large part in perceived intelligence and rational
decision making, and how two people with exceptional intelligence,
Christopher Langan and J. Robert Oppenheimer, end up with such vastly
different fortunes. Throughout the publication, Gladwell repeatedly mentions
the "10,000-Hour Rule", claiming that the key to success in any field is,
to a large extent, a matter of practising a specific task for a total of
around 10,000 hours.
The publication debuted at number one on the bestseller lists for The New
York Times and The Globe and Mail, holding the position on the former for
eleven consecutive weeks. Generally well-received by critics, Outliers was
considered more personal than Gladwell's other works, and some reviews
commented on how much Outliers felt like an autobiography. Reviews praised
the connection that Gladwell draws between his own background and the rest
of the publication to conclude the book. Reviewers also appreciated the
questions posed by Outliers, finding it important to determine how much
individual potential is ignored by society. However, the lessons learned
were considered anticlimactic and dispiriting. The writing style, deemed
easy to understand, was criticized for oversimplifying complex sociological
phenomena. | c********t
发帖数: 4527 | 2 Thanks for sharing.
10000 hours rule, 贵在坚持！！！
simple, as normal people can not do anything over 10000 hours,
If you have done that, you are a pro.
In
【在 a****5 的大作中提到】
: 这两天看完了Malcolm Gladwell's non-fiction book, "Outliers: The Story of
: Success". Could not put it down so I was able to finish it in 2 days.
: Very interesting and highly recommended.
: Here is some introduction from Wikipedia about this book:
: Outliers: The Story of Success is a non-fiction book written by Malcolm
: Gladwell and published by Little, Brown and Company on November 18, 2008. In
: Outliers, Gladwell examines the factors that contribute to high levels of
: success. To support his thesis, he examines the causes of why the majority
: of Canadian ice hockey players are born in the first few months of the
: calendar year, how Microsoft co-founder Bill Gates achieved his extreme
| g*****c
发帖数: 4378 | | a****5
发帖数: 747 | 4 BSO 年轻 and 有梦想?
【在 g*****c 的大作中提到】
: 年轻就是好
: 还能有梦想
| g*****c
发帖数: 4378 | 5 想叉了
显然我是XMJDH
不年轻罗
【在 a****5 的大作中提到】
: BSO 年轻 and 有梦想?
| a****5
发帖数: 747 | 6 没关系。经验丰富也是财富。
【在 g*****c 的大作中提到】
: 想叉了
: 显然我是XMJDH
: 不年轻罗
| d*******n
发帖数: 1566 | 7 没太看懂你是什么logic，随便抓一个麦当劳employee都大大超过 10k hrs
就算是其他工作，每天就按5小时算（去除吃午饭、偷懒等等），从不周末上班
10000/5/250=8 years
同一个职位干超过8年的人多了去了，也没有什么
【在 c********t 的大作中提到】
: Thanks for sharing.
: 10000 hours rule, 贵在坚持！！！
: simple, as normal people can not do anything over 10000 hours,
: If you have done that, you are a pro.
:
: In
| g*****c
发帖数: 4378 | 8 我觉得还蛮好懂的
就是说同一个职位干超过8年的,就算职业XX,否则算业余(爱好?)
比如,你的孩子去麦当劳打工,肯定时间不长,挣点零花钱,培养
劳动观念,或者只是顺应美国的传统
麦当劳的employee, 人家那叫职业(销售?)
【在 d*******n 的大作中提到】
: 没太看懂你是什么logic，随便抓一个麦当劳employee都大大超过 10k hrs
: 就算是其他工作，每天就按5小时算（去除吃午饭、偷懒等等），从不周末上班
: 10000/5/250=8 years
: 同一个职位干超过8年的人多了去了，也没有什么
| a****5
发帖数: 747 | 9 The 10000-hours rule is more about the time needed for someone
to reach an advanced level for a certain skill set with which very few
others have. This way, the person with the skill will be ready
when the opportunity knocks.
Even if someone flips burgers his entire life, the skill is probably
pretty ordinary and not mych value. But if someone spends 10000 hours to
make delicious burgers no one else can and knows how to run a business, like
the
Five Guys family, then he is ready to become successful.
【在 d*******n 的大作中提到】
: 没太看懂你是什么logic，随便抓一个麦当劳employee都大大超过 10k hrs
: 就算是其他工作，每天就按5小时算（去除吃午饭、偷懒等等），从不周末上班
: 10000/5/250=8 years
: 同一个职位干超过8年的人多了去了，也没有什么
| S*******s
发帖数: 10098 | | | | d*******n
发帖数: 1566 | 11
我是针对他这句话不懂的：
【在 g*****c 的大作中提到】
: 我觉得还蛮好懂的
: 就是说同一个职位干超过8年的,就算职业XX,否则算业余(爱好?)
: 比如,你的孩子去麦当劳打工,肯定时间不长,挣点零花钱,培养
: 劳动观念,或者只是顺应美国的传统
: 麦当劳的employee, 人家那叫职业(销售?)
| d*******n
发帖数: 1566 | 12 那你也应该去加入进去嘛，反正就是10,000 hours，假设努力点，每天干10小时，周末
加班一天
10000/10/300=3.33
好神奇啊，任何工作看来是只要干3年就可以succesful了，比我想象中简单好多呢，超
越 Gates/Jobs/Zuckerburg那是轻轻松松啊，还读什么书呢？ :D
时间都是相对的，你花10小时可能别人5小时就搞定了，30岁的员工超过40岁的员工比
比皆是，这种单纯的count hours的东西怎么也会有人信呢？
再者，谈起时间，看Gates/Jobs/Zuckerburg最好不过了，他们都是大学本科都没毕业
就去创业的，所以说创业experience基本为零，这都能成功了，还扯个什么10000
hours啊？？
like
【在 a****5 的大作中提到】
: The 10000-hours rule is more about the time needed for someone
: to reach an advanced level for a certain skill set with which very few
: others have. This way, the person with the skill will be ready
: when the opportunity knocks.
: Even if someone flips burgers his entire life, the skill is probably
: pretty ordinary and not mych value. But if someone spends 10000 hours to
: make delicious burgers no one else can and knows how to run a business, like
: the
: Five Guys family, then he is ready to become successful.
| a****5
发帖数: 747 | 13 How do you know I did not spend my 10000 hours? It actually worked
pretty well.
Not everybody can be as successful as Gates/Jobs/Zuckerburg, that's
the whole point of the books. 10000 hours will only get yourself ahead of
many others but you'll still need the opportunity and the gut to take it.
【在 d*******n 的大作中提到】
: 那你也应该去加入进去嘛，反正就是10,000 hours，假设努力点，每天干10小时，周末
: 加班一天
: 10000/10/300=3.33
: 好神奇啊，任何工作看来是只要干3年就可以succesful了，比我想象中简单好多呢，超
: 越 Gates/Jobs/Zuckerburg那是轻轻松松啊，还读什么书呢？ :D
: 时间都是相对的，你花10小时可能别人5小时就搞定了，30岁的员工超过40岁的员工比
: 比皆是，这种单纯的count hours的东西怎么也会有人信呢？
: 再者，谈起时间，看Gates/Jobs/Zuckerburg最好不过了，他们都是大学本科都没毕业
: 就去创业的，所以说创业experience基本为零，这都能成功了，还扯个什么10000
: hours啊？？
| c********t
发帖数: 4527 | 14 there you go,
Just imagine that you flip burger with your mind > 10000 hours,
武侠小说里的扫地曾。。。
【在 g*****c 的大作中提到】
: 我觉得还蛮好懂的
: 就是说同一个职位干超过8年的,就算职业XX,否则算业余(爱好?)
: 比如,你的孩子去麦当劳打工,肯定时间不长,挣点零花钱,培养
: 劳动观念,或者只是顺应美国的传统
: 麦当劳的employee, 人家那叫职业(销售?)
| c********t
发帖数: 4527 | 15 Now you know why it is hard for him to get the point.
爱占牛角尖，不好！
【在 a****5 的大作中提到】
: How do you know I did not spend my 10000 hours? It actually worked
: pretty well.
: Not everybody can be as successful as Gates/Jobs/Zuckerburg, that's
: the whole point of the books. 10000 hours will only get yourself ahead of
: many others but you'll still need the opportunity and the gut to take it.
| a****5
发帖数: 747 | 16 Yep
【在 c********t 的大作中提到】
: Now you know why it is hard for him to get the point.
: 爱占牛角尖，不好！
| c********t
发帖数: 4527 | 17 又读了一遍。
这牛角尖钻得还不是一点点。
【在 d*******n 的大作中提到】
: 那你也应该去加入进去嘛，反正就是10,000 hours，假设努力点，每天干10小时，周末
: 加班一天
: 10000/10/300=3.33
: 好神奇啊，任何工作看来是只要干3年就可以succesful了，比我想象中简单好多呢，超
: 越 Gates/Jobs/Zuckerburg那是轻轻松松啊，还读什么书呢？ :D
: 时间都是相对的，你花10小时可能别人5小时就搞定了，30岁的员工超过40岁的员工比
: 比皆是，这种单纯的count hours的东西怎么也会有人信呢？
: 再者，谈起时间，看Gates/Jobs/Zuckerburg最好不过了，他们都是大学本科都没毕业
: 就去创业的，所以说创业experience基本为零，这都能成功了，还扯个什么10000
: hours啊？？
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