a*q
发帖数: 2109 | 1 Reverse-engineering censorship in China: Randomized experimentation and
participant observation
http://www.sciencemag.org/content/345/6199/1251722.short
连五毛党都出来了(reference 21)。再看Supporting Information里面引用的帖子，实
在无话可说。 |
h*******k
发帖数: 975 | 2 李克强又挨了一个大耳光。
刚刚批评以色列屠杀平民的美国教授被米犹开除啊。克强还不亲自反击？ |
h*******k
发帖数: 975 | 3 克强不反击就是丢尽自己的脸。老婆还闹着把小孩送美国来。妈个屄的，去哪个国家不
行，要到2008完全崩盘的美国？学金融学经济，必须到瑞士。 |
s******y
发帖数: 28562 | 4 你们读了这个文章么？其实还意料之外的正面呢
【在 a*q 的大作中提到】
: Reverse-engineering censorship in China: Randomized experimentation and
: participant observation
: http://www.sciencemag.org/content/345/6199/1251722.short
: 连五毛党都出来了(reference 21)。再看Supporting Information里面引用的帖子，实
: 在无话可说。
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h*******k
发帖数: 975 | 5 你这是典型中了米犹诡计。好象它还很客观，中国政府在了解民意。西方这些从小就认
为西藏是不同国家的读者，看到的就是一个标题。
【在 s******y 的大作中提到】
: 你们读了这个文章么？其实还意料之外的正面呢
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h*******k
发帖数: 975 | 6 美国爹什么时候承认自己的政府有 Censoring？有 propaganda？美国的傻逼选民个个
拍着胸脯讲，我们自由世界没有 propaganda |
s******y
发帖数: 28562 | 7 嗯，你说的有道理
【在 h*******k 的大作中提到】
: 你这是典型中了米犹诡计。好象它还很客观，中国政府在了解民意。西方这些从小就认
: 为西藏是不同国家的读者，看到的就是一个标题。
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s*******1
发帖数: 188 | 8 从当前网络泛滥，大V横行，普通民众爱跟风易冲动来看，我支持中国政府的网络审查
制度。 |
a*q
发帖数: 2109 | 9 想文章里面说的他们在中国雇水军在100个网站注册了200个账号发了1200篇水文... |
a*q
发帖数: 2109 | 10 还自己建了一个网站装模作样给论坛软件客服打电话问该如何审帖子 |
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a*q
发帖数: 2109 | 11 从文章结论来看就是这样的。说的是网络审查其实不看帖子是骂政府的还是支持政府的
，只看是不是煽动民众的，即使是召集大家来支持政府。
Supporting information里面骂习近平的帖子太欢乐了。
【在 s*******1 的大作中提到】
: 从当前网络泛滥，大V横行，普通民众爱跟风易冲动来看，我支持中国政府的网络审查
: 制度。
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a*q
发帖数: 2109 | 12 社会学的实验有时候还是挺好玩的，跟生物实验太不一样了。 |
h*******k
发帖数: 975 | 13 希望这些耳光彻底打掉李克强们的幻想，话语权和诺贝尔奖发奖权不是花钱搞什么“文
化产业”能买到的。
话语权的唯一来源是肢解和击败已有强国，二战前的诺贝尔奖全是德国的。我国任何改
革，任何市场化，都必须是全面排除美国，以肢解美国为唯一目的的改革和市场化。
【在 a*q 的大作中提到】
: 社会学的实验有时候还是挺好玩的，跟生物实验太不一样了。
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r**********e
发帖数: 587 | 14 这种傻B文章，当作个笑话就可以了
满足衰落的美国人唱衰中国的意淫之心罢了
自己分明是个婊子，还喜欢骂别人是婊子，这就是白人的本质。
【在 a*q 的大作中提到】
: Reverse-engineering censorship in China: Randomized experimentation and
: participant observation
: http://www.sciencemag.org/content/345/6199/1251722.short
: 连五毛党都出来了(reference 21)。再看Supporting Information里面引用的帖子，实
: 在无话可说。
|
h****u
发帖数: 480 | 15
感觉中国会很快封锁science 网站。
【在 a*q 的大作中提到】
: Reverse-engineering censorship in China: Randomized experimentation and
: participant observation
: http://www.sciencemag.org/content/345/6199/1251722.short
: 连五毛党都出来了(reference 21)。再看Supporting Information里面引用的帖子，实
: 在无话可说。
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F*Q
发帖数: 3259 | 16 那么多人靠着Science（包括Nature和Cell)去忽悠，中国不可能封锁那些杂志的。虽然
有很多人喊爱国，如果让他们放弃CNS而只投国内办的杂志，即使是SCI的，他们也不会
干。
【在 h****u 的大作中提到】
:
: 感觉中国会很快封锁science 网站。
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a*q
发帖数: 2109 | 17 按照这篇文章的研究结论，这篇文章以及Science不属于被封的对象（煽动群体运动）。
【在 h****u 的大作中提到】
:
: 感觉中国会很快封锁science 网站。
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n******d
发帖数: 1055 | 18 恼羞成怒就酱紫的，。。。。
永远也不要正视自己。 |
g*****1
发帖数: 666 | 19 这篇文章原创性在哪？“钓鱼网站”作研究还是因为政治正确？ |
O********4
发帖数: 113 | 20 political "science" 也能发 science 啊？这个研究对人类探索未知世界毫无意义。
不知这种东西怎么peer review, 如果真要按science 审稿标准，这个文章是要送中宣
部做reviewer 的吧？ |
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r**********e
发帖数: 587 | 21 我昨天就在Science这个傻文发了评论，可惜讽刺的是Science要先censor我的评论才能
发表出来。貌似到现在都没通过审核。
这不是自己打自己的脸吗？
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Your Comment:
This science paper is nothing but piece of joke. I simply stop reading when
I
see propaganda terms like "Tibet", "xinjiang" or "Weiwei Ai". Majority of
Americans know any single fact or knowledge about Tibet? All Chinese borders
are minority Chinese, including Tibetan, Urghur, Hui, Mongolian, Koreans,
Manchurian, Zhuang, etc, not to mention hundreds of different minority
ethnics in Yunnan province? How many westerners ever heard Zhuang? They are
the biggest Chinese minority with 10 million population, just like Tibetan
Chinese. So why westerners have huge interest in Tibetan while zero
knowledge
about Zhuang? That's simply because the hypocrite British used to conquer
Tibet fighting for ruling power against Russians. As for Urghur issues, why
westerners are less familiar or "enthusiastic" compared with Tibetan ones?
Simply because the West need Chinese support for anti-terrorism of Islamic
world after 911. Also "Ai Weiwei", even for Chinese with access to
"free-media" (in quotes) who will ever give a damn shit to this guy? There'
re
tens of thousands of Chinese artists putting on different shows or
exhibition
everyday, some of which also shows criticism to governments, they why
westerners only report Ai Weiwei? Some west reports will name him as "China'
s
most famous artist", OMG, r u kidding me? I've lived in China for 20 years
and never heard this name until he because the propaganda name frequently
showing up at anti-China news report in west.
Please learn some Mandarin, read some Chinese history, figure out what
Chinese people are really concerned about (being rich, good education,
environmental degradation, social fairness...), instead of showing your
ignorance on Chinese issues only whining about "Tibet, Xinjiang, Ai Weiwei,
64, cultural revolution..." You China bashers should also grow up and be
more
educated, otherwise even the most loyal anti-communism dissidents will be
disappointed, lol.
I think Beijing University should also carry out the similar "political
science" research over American spying and censorship issues taking Snowden
as example, and published as "Research Article" on Science? Lol
Oh, oh, btw, Have I said too much? I sincerely beg SCIENCE won't censor and
delete my posts here, or I personally spied by FBI or CIA.
Thanks!
【在 a*q 的大作中提到】
: Reverse-engineering censorship in China: Randomized experimentation and
: participant observation
: http://www.sciencemag.org/content/345/6199/1251722.short
: 连五毛党都出来了(reference 21)。再看Supporting Information里面引用的帖子，实
: 在无话可说。
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a********k
发帖数: 2273 | 22 do not be emotional, but try to state the truth.
Web
【在 r**********e 的大作中提到】
: 我昨天就在Science这个傻文发了评论，可惜讽刺的是Science要先censor我的评论才能
: 发表出来。貌似到现在都没通过审核。
: 这不是自己打自己的脸吗？
: Thank you for submitting your comment to *Science*. All comments are
: moderated by our editorial staff and, if approved, will be posted on our Web
: site shortly. You will receive another message when that happens.
: Submissions
: that do not follow our terms and conditions
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j******f
发帖数: 228 | 23 The chinese government's censorship is to block ANY posts/articles that
challenge its political power. The moderated forum of Science is to filter
out rogues posts that lack the basic manner of communication. These are
very different things.
Just because the USA government is doing the same thing doesn't justify
chinese government's encroachment on basic human rights.
Web
【在 r**********e 的大作中提到】
: 我昨天就在Science这个傻文发了评论，可惜讽刺的是Science要先censor我的评论才能
: 发表出来。貌似到现在都没通过审核。
: 这不是自己打自己的脸吗？
: Thank you for submitting your comment to *Science*. All comments are
: moderated by our editorial staff and, if approved, will be posted on our Web
: site shortly. You will receive another message when that happens.
: Submissions
: that do not follow our terms and conditions
: [http://comments.sciencemag.org/terms] will be deleted at the sole discretion
: of our editors. Please do not reply to this email address. If you believe
|
r*****m
发帖数: 3619 | 24 funding is a serious issue for you kind of garbage and parasites
【在 j******f 的大作中提到】
: The chinese government's censorship is to block ANY posts/articles that
: challenge its political power. The moderated forum of Science is to filter
: out rogues posts that lack the basic manner of communication. These are
: very different things.
: Just because the USA government is doing the same thing doesn't justify
: chinese government's encroachment on basic human rights.
:
: Web
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j******f
发帖数: 228 | 25 Sorry I'm not a faculty or even a biologist. I'm just speaking out the fact
. Your judgmental call only reflects your own level.
【在 r*****m 的大作中提到】
: funding is a serious issue for you kind of garbage and parasites
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s******r
发帖数: 2876 | 26 有你说的那种人权吗？
多少国家能保证这种人权。
The chinese government's censorship is to block ANY posts/articles that
challenge its political power. The moderated forum of Science is to filter
out rogues posts that lack the basic manner of communication. These are
very different things.
Just because the USA government is doing the same thing doesn't justify
chinese government's encroachment on basic human rights.
Web
【在 j******f 的大作中提到】
: The chinese government's censorship is to block ANY posts/articles that
: challenge its political power. The moderated forum of Science is to filter
: out rogues posts that lack the basic manner of communication. These are
: very different things.
: Just because the USA government is doing the same thing doesn't justify
: chinese government's encroachment on basic human rights.
:
: Web
|
r**********e
发帖数: 587 | 27 搞笑
【在 j******f 的大作中提到】
: The chinese government's censorship is to block ANY posts/articles that
: challenge its political power. The moderated forum of Science is to filter
: out rogues posts that lack the basic manner of communication. These are
: very different things.
: Just because the USA government is doing the same thing doesn't justify
: chinese government's encroachment on basic human rights.
:
: Web
|
S**I
发帖数: 15689 | 28
Web
【在 r**********e 的大作中提到】
: 我昨天就在Science这个傻文发了评论，可惜讽刺的是Science要先censor我的评论才能
: 发表出来。貌似到现在都没通过审核。
: 这不是自己打自己的脸吗？
: Thank you for submitting your comment to *Science*. All comments are
: moderated by our editorial staff and, if approved, will be posted on our Web
: site shortly. You will receive another message when that happens.
: Submissions
: that do not follow our terms and conditions
: [http://comments.sciencemag.org/terms] will be deleted at the sole discretion
: of our editors. Please do not reply to this email address. If you believe
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C******y
发帖数: 3249 | 29 we know your pitiful life, you ill-fated parasites
who is funding your existence?
fact
【在 j******f 的大作中提到】
: Sorry I'm not a faculty or even a biologist. I'm just speaking out the fact
: . Your judgmental call only reflects your own level.
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u***n
发帖数: 10554 | 30 应该算social science，或者communication, media studies 什么的，当然牵强一点
可以算data science.
【在 O********4 的大作中提到】
: political "science" 也能发 science 啊？这个研究对人类探索未知世界毫无意义。
: 不知这种东西怎么peer review, 如果真要按science 审稿标准，这个文章是要送中宣
: 部做reviewer 的吧？
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j******f
发帖数: 228 | 31 Of course there are. Freedom of speech is the basic human right. Don't you
agree?
In many countries you can openly discuss anything without being charged. Can
you talk about tiananmen, free tibet, taiwan independence in mainland china?
Again even no country honors basic human right doesn't mean it is right. No
excuse man!
【在 s******r 的大作中提到】
: 有你说的那种人权吗？
: 多少国家能保证这种人权。
:
: The chinese government's censorship is to block ANY posts/articles that
: challenge its political power. The moderated forum of Science is to filter
: out rogues posts that lack the basic manner of communication. These are
: very different things.
: Just because the USA government is doing the same thing doesn't justify
: chinese government's encroachment on basic human rights.
: Web
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D*a
发帖数: 6830 | 32 看得我笑死了，还解释了一下包子是蒸的，饺子是煮的lol
【在 a*q 的大作中提到】
: 从文章结论来看就是这样的。说的是网络审查其实不看帖子是骂政府的还是支持政府的
: ，只看是不是煽动民众的，即使是召集大家来支持政府。
: Supporting information里面骂习近平的帖子太欢乐了。
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M****H
发帖数: 1057 | 33 所以说不能双重标准啊
Web
【在 r**********e 的大作中提到】
: 我昨天就在Science这个傻文发了评论，可惜讽刺的是Science要先censor我的评论才能
: 发表出来。貌似到现在都没通过审核。
: 这不是自己打自己的脸吗？
: Thank you for submitting your comment to *Science*. All comments are
: moderated by our editorial staff and, if approved, will be posted on our Web
: site shortly. You will receive another message when that happens.
: Submissions
: that do not follow our terms and conditions
: [http://comments.sciencemag.org/terms] will be deleted at the sole discretion
: of our editors. Please do not reply to this email address. If you believe
|
n******d
发帖数: 1055 | 34 妈的，我昨天写的评论怎么被删了？难道买买提要现身说法吗？ |
e****s
发帖数: 1125 | 35 中国的网络审查不是非常严重的吗？很多回帖，动不动就跳出来阴谋论。
他们这个结论应该去年就得出来了，NPR还做过专题，土共审查最在乎的就是群体事件
，只要招呼上街、甚至小型聚会都会受到严格的审查，帖子被清得最快。
这个研究还是比较公正和客观的。Cencorship in China情况越来越糟。每天多少律师
、记者被抓，被控制。
为虎作伥的人可真不少。 |
D*a
发帖数: 6830 | 36 现在美国人都知道美国有网络审查了吧。斯诺登不是跑了么。还弄了个机器人跑去开
TED大会，然后美国国防部还是什么部还在TED上回应了 |
e****s
发帖数: 1125 | 37 用用twitter，再用用新浪微薄，
用用facebook,再用用国内各大论坛，
你不会真以为中美这两者的审查是一会事情吧？
斯诺登还能从美国跑出去，中国斯诺登压根就出不来。压制得死死的。
【在 D*a 的大作中提到】
: 现在美国人都知道美国有网络审查了吧。斯诺登不是跑了么。还弄了个机器人跑去开
: TED大会，然后美国国防部还是什么部还在TED上回应了
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D*a
发帖数: 6830 | 38 我不认为这是一回事，但是没必要在买买提上招惹菌斑神经病，所以调侃一下就罢了。
【在 e****s 的大作中提到】
: 用用twitter，再用用新浪微薄，
: 用用facebook,再用用国内各大论坛，
: 你不会真以为中美这两者的审查是一会事情吧？
: 斯诺登还能从美国跑出去，中国斯诺登压根就出不来。压制得死死的。
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