t*d
发帖数: 1290 | 1 915-billion？？？
roughly 45% — to the creation of a National Center for Advancing
Translational Sciences (NCATS)？？？
大家快站好队，千万别挤错地方了。
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Nature | News 21 Dec 2011
Last-minute wins for US science
A year-end push by the US Congress to pass a $915-billion spending bill has
delivered on a key initiative proposed by Francis Collins, director of the
National Institutes of Health (NIH).
In addition to funding the NIH at nearly $30.7 billion for the 2012 fiscal
year, the bill dissolves the National Center for Research Resources (NCRR)
and allocates a large portion of its budget — roughly 45% — to the
creation of a National Center for Advancing Translational Sciences (NCATS).
It is the biggest organizational change at the biomedical agency in decades.
The translational-science centre was proposed by Collins late last year and
fast-tracked by the administration of President Barack Obama for
establishment in 2012. But the dissolution of the NCRR has met with some
resistance within the NIH, particularly from those worried about the fate of
its programmes, which will be parcelled out to other NIH institutes and the
director’s office (see Nature 471, 15–16; 2011). And in June, Denny
Rehberg (Republican, Montana), chairman of the House Committee on
Appropriations for Labor, Health and Human Services, Education, and Related
Agencies objected to not having received a formal budget request for the new
centre. The committee made no provision for it in a draft bill released on
29 September. The reappearance of the centre in legislation passed by the
Senate on 17 December — and expected to be signed into law by Obama —
brings Collins’s initiative closer to reality. |
m******f
发帖数: 4352 | 2 wonder whether it should be million, not billion. |
t*d
发帖数: 1290 | 3 我也这么猜。否则这么多钱怎么花得完？要不，给咱千老工资涨个10倍，超过花街？
【在 m******f 的大作中提到】
: wonder whether it should be million, not billion.
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J********n
发帖数: 534 | 4 Looks like 915B is for US science in general, not only for life science.
Although NIH get a big chunk of the pie.
Translational Science is quite different from the basic research conducted
in most Universities. It is designed to bridge the large gap between basic
research and lead identification in the clinic. |
n********k
发帖数: 2818 | 5 Re-Search--yours is called sloppy science:)) it is for sure billion..
【在 t*d 的大作中提到】
: 我也这么猜。否则这么多钱怎么花得完？要不，给咱千老工资涨个10倍，超过花街？
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m******f
发帖数: 4352 | 6 NIH gets about 30 b per year. The amount 915 billion is roughly how much US
spend on defense per year. Science can not possibly be that expensive.
【在 n********k 的大作中提到】
: Re-Search--yours is called sloppy science:)) it is for sure billion..
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a****d
发帖数: 1919 | 7 agree
US
【在 m******f 的大作中提到】
: NIH gets about 30 b per year. The amount 915 billion is roughly how much US
: spend on defense per year. Science can not possibly be that expensive.
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y********e
发帖数: 8315 | 8 哇，赶紧去分赃！
【在 a****d 的大作中提到】
: agree
:
: US
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a********k
发帖数: 2273 | 9 scientists can YY it for a minute~
US
【在 m******f 的大作中提到】
: NIH gets about 30 b per year. The amount 915 billion is roughly how much US
: spend on defense per year. Science can not possibly be that expensive.
|
n****g
发帖数: 1063 | 10 这个915B显然包括了许多其他非NIH， 非science的预算。NIHgot30.7B |
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y******8
发帖数: 1764 | 11 915B是余下2012的总budget.
不觉得创建一个translational research center有什么重大的意义。这不是一个美国
政府应该投资的方向。类似于Solyndra出的事，如果有政治参与，那么该死掉的企业不
死，有希望的企业就得不到机会。真正的translational research这一行可能从此被引
入歧途。
NIH最该干的是把所有的program都改成non-renewable. 一个新颖的idea,做了4-5年，
早就不新了。把有限的资源，投资陈旧的概念，和浪费也差不多。 |
s******a
发帖数: 252 | 12 National Center for Advancing Translational Science = $576 million
http://news.sciencemag.org/scienceinsider/2011/12/nih-doe-appea |
s******y
发帖数: 28562 | 13 915-billion 应该是明年整年的所有正常内政开支的钱，其中有30.7B是给NIH的。
这个数目和２０１１一样，比2010年的(30.8B) 还少，扣除了物价上涨因素，
其实是钱变少了。所以我不知道大家高兴什么
当然没有被拦腰对砍已经不错了。
【在 J********n 的大作中提到】
: Looks like 915B is for US science in general, not only for life science.
: Although NIH get a big chunk of the pie.
: Translational Science is quite different from the basic research conducted
: in most Universities. It is designed to bridge the large gap between basic
: research and lead identification in the clinic.
|
N******n
发帖数: 3003 | 14
NIH would receive a $239 million raise to $30.6 billion—a modest 0.8%
increase
【在 s******y 的大作中提到】
: 915-billion 应该是明年整年的所有正常内政开支的钱，其中有30.7B是给NIH的。
: 这个数目和２０１１一样，比2010年的(30.8B) 还少，扣除了物价上涨因素，
: 其实是钱变少了。所以我不知道大家高兴什么
: 当然没有被拦腰对砍已经不错了。
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s******y
发帖数: 28562 | 15 Huh, 从Science magazine 看来好像是小涨一点点
【在 N******n 的大作中提到】
:
: NIH would receive a $239 million raise to $30.6 billion—a modest 0.8%
: increase
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c**y
发帖数: 2282 | 16 这年头有的涨就算不错了
【在 N******n 的大作中提到】
:
: NIH would receive a $239 million raise to $30.6 billion—a modest 0.8%
: increase
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t*d
发帖数: 1290 | 17 30b 只是 915b 的3%。很小的一部分吧。
还有什么sciences象biology 这么烧钱的。
【在 J********n 的大作中提到】
: Looks like 915B is for US science in general, not only for life science.
: Although NIH get a big chunk of the pie.
: Translational Science is quite different from the basic research conducted
: in most Universities. It is designed to bridge the large gap between basic
: research and lead identification in the clinic.
|
t*d
发帖数: 1290 | 18 roughly 45% — to the creation of a National Center for Advancing
Translational Sciences (NCATS)。
谁知道这个 45% 是那部分的 45%？ |
r****t
发帖数: 10904 | 19 45% of 30.7 b
【在 t*d 的大作中提到】
: roughly 45% — to the creation of a National Center for Advancing
: Translational Sciences (NCATS)。
: 谁知道这个 45% 是那部分的 45%？
|
j*****d
发帖数: 787 | 20 你们都不读NIH 各个小所的mission scope吗？
【在 y******8 的大作中提到】
: 915B是余下2012的总budget.
: 不觉得创建一个translational research center有什么重大的意义。这不是一个美国
: 政府应该投资的方向。类似于Solyndra出的事，如果有政治参与，那么该死掉的企业不
: 死，有希望的企业就得不到机会。真正的translational research这一行可能从此被引
: 入歧途。
: NIH最该干的是把所有的program都改成non-renewable. 一个新颖的idea,做了4-5年，
: 早就不新了。把有限的资源，投资陈旧的概念，和浪费也差不多。
|
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t*d
发帖数: 1290 | 21 In addition to funding the NIH at nearly $30.7 billion for the 2012 fiscal
year, the bill dissolves the National Center for Research Resources (NCRR)
and allocates a large portion of its budget — roughly 45% — to the
creation of a National Center for Advancing Translational Sciences (NCATS).
关键词是"In addition to"，所以应该是 30.7 b 之外的钱吧。
【在 r****t 的大作中提到】
: 45% of 30.7 b
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p*****m
发帖数: 7030 | 22 不就是说把NCRR本来经费的45%拿出来成立了个新机构么
.
【在 t*d 的大作中提到】
: In addition to funding the NIH at nearly $30.7 billion for the 2012 fiscal
: year, the bill dissolves the National Center for Research Resources (NCRR)
: and allocates a large portion of its budget — roughly 45% — to the
: creation of a National Center for Advancing Translational Sciences (NCATS).
: 关键词是"In addition to"，所以应该是 30.7 b 之外的钱吧。
|
t*d
发帖数: 1290 | 23 这个本来的经费是什么呢？
the bill dissolves the National Center for Research Resources (NCRR)
and allocates a large portion of its budget — roughly 45%
“its budget” 中的 its 是指本句中的 ‘the bill’吗？那么the bill 又是指什么呢？上文中的唯一出现 “bill”这个词的地方是“a $915-billion spending bill ”。
【在 p*****m 的大作中提到】
: 不就是说把NCRR本来经费的45%拿出来成立了个新机构么
:
: .
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t**********8
发帖数: 223 | 24 漲工資？別做夢了吧！nci早就傳達了，明年各lab budget 減8％左右吧，今年正式員
工招聘早就凍結了，各所好像都要裁員，昨天還有通知，title 是“Fiscal Year 2012
Budget to Impact Building 1 Cafeteria, Gateway Center, Building 10 Loading
Dock and Other Services”意思是明年budget緊張，gateway, library,
international service, mail service....這些地方都要裁人，carfeteria關調一個
，“We deeply regret any inconvenience these changes may cause and
understand they will impact our employees and visitors. Your support and
patience is appreciated as we work through these difficult times.”
遮輪經濟危機不知到啥時才能恢復元氣
【在 t*d 的大作中提到】
: 我也这么猜。否则这么多钱怎么花得完？要不，给咱千老工资涨个10倍，超过花街？
|
m*********r
发帖数: 2456 | 25 想不明白carfeteria为啥要关，本来就又贵又难吃，赚钱的机构也撤掉了，想不
明白～～
2012
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【在 t**********8 的大作中提到】
: 漲工資？別做夢了吧！nci早就傳達了，明年各lab budget 減8％左右吧，今年正式員
: 工招聘早就凍結了，各所好像都要裁員，昨天還有通知，title 是“Fiscal Year 2012
: Budget to Impact Building 1 Cafeteria, Gateway Center, Building 10 Loading
: Dock and Other Services”意思是明年budget緊張，gateway, library,
: international service, mail service....這些地方都要裁人，carfeteria關調一個
: ，“We deeply regret any inconvenience these changes may cause and
: understand they will impact our employees and visitors. Your support and
: patience is appreciated as we work through these difficult times.”
: 遮輪經濟危機不知到啥時才能恢復元氣
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s******y
发帖数: 28562 | 26 在我的印象中，美国这里的食堂是既难吃，又贵，但是偏偏也不赚钱。
估计是美国这里无论什么机构，只要一变成公立的，立刻就经营效率大降
【在 m*********r 的大作中提到】
: 想不明白carfeteria为啥要关，本来就又贵又难吃，赚钱的机构也撤掉了，想不
: 明白～～
:
: 2012
: Loading
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b*******n
发帖数: 8420 | 27 welcome to the republican party
【在 s******y 的大作中提到】
: 在我的印象中，美国这里的食堂是既难吃，又贵，但是偏偏也不赚钱。
: 估计是美国这里无论什么机构，只要一变成公立的，立刻就经营效率大降
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m******f
发帖数: 4352 | 28 食堂饭的营养比较均衡，如果你比较爱吃美国饭，还是不错的。
【在 s******y 的大作中提到】
: 在我的印象中，美国这里的食堂是既难吃，又贵，但是偏偏也不赚钱。
: 估计是美国这里无论什么机构，只要一变成公立的，立刻就经营效率大降
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L*****s
发帖数: 24744 | |
s********7
发帖数: 4681 | |
