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发帖数: 7947 | 1 http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/07/education/07education.html?_r=1&hp
Shanghai Test Scores Stun Educators
By SAM DILLON
With China’s debut in international standardized testing, students in
Shanghai have surprised experts by outscoring their counterparts in dozens
of other countries, in reading as well as in math and science, according to
the results of a respected exam.
American officials and Europeans involved in administering the test in about
65 countries acknowledged that the scores from Shanghai — an industrial
powerhouse with some 20 million residents and scores of modern universities
that is a magnet for the best students in the country — are by no means
representative of all of China.
About 5,100 15-year-olds in Shanghai were chosen as a representative cross-
section of students in that city. In the United States, a similar number of
students from across the country were selected as a representative sample
for the test.
Experts noted the obvious difficulty of using a standardized test to compare
countries and cities of vastly different sizes. Even so, they said the
stellar academic performance of students in Shanghai was noteworthy, and
another sign of China’s rapid modernization.
The results also appeared to reflect the culture of education there,
including greater emphasis on teacher training and more time spent on
studying rather than extracurricular activities like sports.
“Wow, I’m kind of stunned, I’m thinking Sputnik,” said Chester E. Finn
Jr., who served in President Ronald Reagan’s Department of Education,
referring to the groundbreaking Soviet satellite launching. Mr. Finn, who
has visited schools all across China, said, “I’ve seen how relentless the
Chinese are at accomplishing goals, and if they can do this in Shanghai in
2009, they can do it in 10 cities in 2019, and in 50 cities by 2029.”
The test, the Program for International Student Assessment, known as PISA,
was given to 15-year-old students by the Organization for Economic
Cooperation and Development, a Paris-based group that includes the world’s
major industrial powers.
The results are to be released officially on Tuesday, but advance copies
were provided to the news media a day early.
“We have to see this as a wake-up call,” Secretary of Education Arne
Duncan said in an interview on Monday.
“I know skeptics will want to argue with the results, but we consider them
to be accurate and reliable, and we have to see them as a challenge to get
better,” he added. “The United States came in 23rd or 24th in most
subjects. We can quibble, or we can face the brutal truth that we’re being
out-educated.”
In math, the Shanghai students performed in a class by themselves,
outperforming second-place Singapore, which has been seen as an educational
superstar in recent years. The average math scores of American students put
them below 30 other countries.
PISA scores are on a scale, with 500 as the average. Two-thirds of students
in participating countries score between 400 and 600. On the math test last
year, students in Shanghai scored 600, in Singapore 562, in Germany 513, and
in the United States 487.
In reading, Shanghai students scored 556, ahead of second-place Korea with
539. The United States scored 500 and came in 17th, putting it on par with
students in the Netherlands, Belgium, Norway, Germany, France, the United
Kingdom and several other countries.
In science, Shanghai students scored 575. In second place was Finland, where
the average score was 554. The United States scored 502 — in 23rd place —
with a performance indistinguishable from Poland, Ireland, Norway, France
and several other countries.
The testing in Shanghai was carried out by an international contractor,
working with Chinese authorities, and overseen by the Australian Council for
Educational Research, a nonprofit testing group, said Andreas Schleicher,
who directs the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development’s
international educational testing program.
Mark Schneider, a commissioner of the Department of Education’s research
arm in the George W. Bush administration, who returned from an educational
research visit to China on Friday, said he had been skeptical about some
PISA results in the past. But Mr. Schneider said he considered the accuracy
of these results to be unassailable.
“The technical side of this was well regulated, the sampling was O.K., and
there was no evidence of cheating,” he said.
Mr. Schneider, however, noted some factors that may have influenced the
outcome.
For one thing, Shanghai is a huge migration hub within China. Students are
supposed to return to their home provinces to attend high school, but the
Shanghai authorities could increase scores by allowing stellar students to
stay in the city, he said. And Shanghai students apparently were told the
test was important for China’s image and thus were more motivated to do
well, he said.
“Can you imagine the reaction if we told the students of Chicago that the
PISA was an important international test and that America’s reputation
depended on them performing well?” Mr. Schneider said. “That said, China
is taking education very seriously. The work ethic is amazingly strong.”
In a speech to a college audience in North Carolina, President Obama
recalled how the Soviet Union’s 1957 launching of Sputnik provoked the
United States to increase investment in math and science education, helping
America win the space race.
“Fifty years later, our generation’s Sputnik moment is back,” Mr. Obama
said. With billions of people in India and China “suddenly plugged into the
world economy,” he said, nations with the most educated workers will
prevail. “As it stands right now,” he said, “America is in danger of
falling behind.”
If Shanghai is a showcase of Chinese educational progress, America’s
showcase would be Massachusetts, which has routinely scored higher than all
other states on America’s main federal math test in recent years.
But in a 2007 study that correlated the results of that test with the
results of an international math exam, Massachusetts students scored behind
Singapore, Hong Kong, South Korea, Taiwan, and Japan. Shanghai did not
participate in the test.
A 259-page Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development report on
the latest Pisa results notes that throughout its history, China has been
organized around competitive examinations. “Schools work their students
long hours every day, and the work weeks extend into the weekends,” it said
.
Chinese students spend less time than American students on athletics, music
and other activities not geared toward success on exams in core subjects.
Also, in recent years, teaching has rapidly climbed up the ladder of
preferred occupations in China, and salaries have risen. In Shanghai, the
authorities have undertaken important curricular reforms, and educators have
been given more freedom to experiment.
Ever since his organization received the Shanghai test scores last year, Mr.
Schleicher said, international testing experts have investigated them to
vouch for their accuracy, expecting that they would produce astonishment in
many Western countries.
“This is the first time that we have internationally comparable data on
learning outcomes in China,” Mr. Schleicher said. “While that’s important
, for me the real significance of these results is that they refute the
commonly held hypothesis that China just produces rote learning.”
“Large fractions of these students demonstrate their ability to extrapolate
from what they know and apply their knowledge very creatively in novel
situations,” he said.
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发帖数: 10267 | | y**********o
发帖数: 7947 | 3 给不同国家的15岁孩子标准化测试，上海学生分最高
【在 f******w 的大作中提到】
: 总结？
| i******c
发帖数: 9350 | 4 上海是我国领土不可分割的一部份.
【在 y**********o 的大作中提到】
: 给不同国家的15岁孩子标准化测试，上海学生分最高
| f******w
发帖数: 10267 | 5 有可能是真的。中国学生就会考试。。。。。比如说俺。。。然后。。。就虾了。
【在 y**********o 的大作中提到】
: 给不同国家的15岁孩子标准化测试，上海学生分最高
| w******x
发帖数: 4396 | 6 哈，以前在新加坡的时候也有这么一回，结果出来以后新加坡人那叫一个牛逼哄哄啊，
报纸满版的报道。我当时心想也就是中国不在被测之列，要不就你们这点水平 | i*********s
发帖数: 8706 | 7 About 5,100 15-year-olds in Shanghai were chosen as a representative cross-
section of students in that city.
没准其他国家都老实抽样了。。。
过几天又暴中国选了最优生。。。
【在 y**********o 的大作中提到】
: 给不同国家的15岁孩子标准化测试，上海学生分最高
| y**********o
发帖数: 7947 | 8 嗯，专门说了超过了新加坡这枚新锐
【在 w******x 的大作中提到】
: 哈，以前在新加坡的时候也有这么一回，结果出来以后新加坡人那叫一个牛逼哄哄啊，
: 报纸满版的报道。我当时心想也就是中国不在被测之列，要不就你们这点水平
| y**********o
发帖数: 7947 | 9 就怕这些孩子都被要求为了考试补课，研究历史题目，加班加点。其他国家也就放学了
叫一边随便划拉一下
【在 i*********s 的大作中提到】
: About 5,100 15-year-olds in Shanghai were chosen as a representative cross-
: section of students in that city.
: 没准其他国家都老实抽样了。。。
: 过几天又暴中国选了最优生。。。
| w******r
发帖数: 3156 | 10 这说明不了啥吧。管它真假。国内考G的高分一大堆，莫非英语水平超过一般老美？
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【在 y**********o 的大作中提到】
: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/07/education/07education.html?_r=1&hp
: Shanghai Test Scores Stun Educators
: By SAM DILLON
: With China’s debut in international standardized testing, students in
: Shanghai have surprised experts by outscoring their counterparts in dozens
: of other countries, in reading as well as in math and science, according to
: the results of a respected exam.
: American officials and Europeans involved in administering the test in about
: 65 countries acknowledged that the scores from Shanghai — an industrial
: powerhouse with some 20 million residents and scores of modern universities
| | | C***t
发帖数: 10731 | 11 NY TIMES的新闻80%是当笑话看的
还有NY daily news也差不多的性质 | w******x
发帖数: 4396 | 12 一丘之貉，都tm是应试灌出来的
【在 y**********o 的大作中提到】
: 嗯，专门说了超过了新加坡这枚新锐
| y**********o
发帖数: 7947 | 13 你们这些科学家打算怎么教育自己的娃儿们
【在 w******x 的大作中提到】
: 一丘之貉，都tm是应试灌出来的
| w******x
发帖数: 4396 | 14 爱干啥干啥。又不是替我活着。
【在 y**********o 的大作中提到】
: 你们这些科学家打算怎么教育自己的娃儿们
| y**********o
发帖数: 7947 | 15 可是你把人家生出来，就不管了啊
【在 w******x 的大作中提到】
: 爱干啥干啥。又不是替我活着。
| l****n
发帖数: 6773 | 16 别人干啥他就干啥， 自己想干啥就不能干啥， 最好别那啥......
【在 y**********o 的大作中提到】
: 可是你把人家生出来，就不管了啊
| y**********o
发帖数: 7947 | 17 希望孩子不残疾，不吸毒，不弱智，不犯罪，作一盏省油的灯
【在 l****n 的大作中提到】
: 别人干啥他就干啥， 自己想干啥就不能干啥， 最好别那啥......
| l****n
发帖数: 6773 | 18 还剩4，5百天， 将够造一人......
【在 y**********o 的大作中提到】
: 希望孩子不残疾，不吸毒，不弱智，不犯罪，作一盏省油的灯
| h**d
发帖数: 5208 | 19 吃点儿药，俩仨也可以。
【在 l****n 的大作中提到】
: 还剩4，5百天， 将够造一人......
| i******c
发帖数: 9350 | 20 抓周的时候我儿子想当作家, 我很欣慰.
【在 y**********o 的大作中提到】
: 希望孩子不残疾，不吸毒，不弱智，不犯罪，作一盏省油的灯
| | | D**e
发帖数: 10169 | 21
抓周这事比较扯蛋。。。好像没见过有把烟枪避孕套骰子放上去的。。。其实后来吃喝
嫖赌抽的不在少数。。。
【在 i******c 的大作中提到】
: 抓周的时候我儿子想当作家, 我很欣慰.
| i******c
发帖数: 9350 | 22 那就趁着老婆不在的时候试一试.
【在 D**e 的大作中提到】
:
: 抓周这事比较扯蛋。。。好像没见过有把烟枪避孕套骰子放上去的。。。其实后来吃喝
: 嫖赌抽的不在少数。。。
| t******i
发帖数: 6123 | 23 记得来报告一下结果。
【在 i******c 的大作中提到】
: 那就趁着老婆不在的时候试一试.
| i******c
发帖数: 9350 | 24 就加个黄盘, 烟盒, 色子, 避孕套是吧.
【在 t******i 的大作中提到】
: 记得来报告一下结果。
| y**********o
发帖数: 7947 | 25 抓的是什么说明是作家的？为什么不是娱记，印刷工人，收破烂的
【在 i******c 的大作中提到】
: 抓周的时候我儿子想当作家, 我很欣慰.
| i******c
发帖数: 9350 | 26 问得好! 他就那么一把啦把手表, 钞票和一本书都一气儿抱住了.
【在 y**********o 的大作中提到】
: 抓的是什么说明是作家的？为什么不是娱记，印刷工人，收破烂的
| y**********o
发帖数: 7947 | 27 什么职业需要用到手表呢，你把手表放进去的目的是什么
【在 i******c 的大作中提到】
: 问得好! 他就那么一把啦把手表, 钞票和一本书都一气儿抱住了.
| i******c
发帖数: 9350 | 28 网上说手表=時間=金钱
【在 y**********o 的大作中提到】
: 什么职业需要用到手表呢，你把手表放进去的目的是什么
| l****n
发帖数: 6773 | 29 billable hours......
【在 i******c 的大作中提到】
: 网上说手表=時間=金钱
| i******c
发帖数: 9350 | 30 有道理, 那就可以把黄盘和避孕套去掉了.
【在 l****n 的大作中提到】
: billable hours......
| | | y**********o
发帖数: 7947 | 31 按小时收费还有书的，心理医生，律师好像都符合。
如果按你的思路是性工作者，也可能成名以后写了本memoir of geisha
【在 i******c 的大作中提到】
: 有道理, 那就可以把黄盘和避孕套去掉了.
| L******k
发帖数: 33825 | 32 教育课上 也讨论过类似的东西~~
甜玉米呢？？ 甜老师出来说道说道！ | f******w
发帖数: 10267 | 33 你儿子都周岁了？不应该吧？不是夏天才生的？还是有没跟这儿报告过的？
【在 i******c 的大作中提到】
: 抓周的时候我儿子想当作家, 我很欣慰.
| G**t
发帖数: 276 | 34 Oooops
【在 f******w 的大作中提到】
: 你儿子都周岁了？不应该吧？不是夏天才生的？还是有没跟这儿报告过的？
| u**o
发帖数: 4652 | 35 有这么夸张么
【在 C***t 的大作中提到】
: NY TIMES的新闻80%是当笑话看的
: 还有NY daily news也差不多的性质
| t******i
发帖数: 6123 | 36 看来会是畅销书作者，一支笔就能大把大把捞钱，赞！
【在 i******c 的大作中提到】
: 网上说手表=時間=金钱
| t******i
发帖数: 6123 | 37 不是吧？你们教育课上还讨论抓周类似的东西？？
我没学过幼儿教育，不知道有啥可说的。
【在 L******k 的大作中提到】
: 教育课上 也讨论过类似的东西~~
: 甜玉米呢？？ 甜老师出来说道说道！
| i******c
发帖数: 9350 | 38 没有周岁呢, 他姥姥非得要玩. 小孩坐都坐不稳呢.
【在 f******w 的大作中提到】
: 你儿子都周岁了？不应该吧？不是夏天才生的？还是有没跟这儿报告过的？
| i******c
发帖数: 9350 | 39 看到手表,钱, 和书我联想到了围城作者钱钟书
【在 t******i 的大作中提到】
: 看来会是畅销书作者，一支笔就能大把大把捞钱，赞！
| t******i
发帖数: 6123 | 40 哈哈，真贴切！
【在 i******c 的大作中提到】
: 看到手表,钱, 和书我联想到了围城作者钱钟书
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