a***n
发帖数: 5665 | 1 感觉这几年季后赛，稍微有争议的call多数都是偏向红鸟。 |
p*****k
发帖数: 497 | 2 咱以前也是受害者的，看看1985年WS Game 6的黑哨：
http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=13062921
【在 a***n 的大作中提到】
: 感觉这几年季后赛，稍微有争议的call多数都是偏向红鸟。
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a***n
发帖数: 5665 | 3 确实。不过那时咱不是还没看球么。
【在 p*****k 的大作中提到】
: 咱以前也是受害者的，看看1985年WS Game 6的黑哨：
: http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=13062921
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m*r
发帖数: 37612 | 4 那年你们都出生了？
【在 a***n 的大作中提到】
: 确实。不过那时咱不是还没看球么。
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p*****k
发帖数: 497 | 5 1985年还不知道棒球是啥呢。只是老听见身边有人抱怨那一年被黑哨吹掉了世界冠军，
20多年过去了还不能释怀。
【在 m*r 的大作中提到】
: 那年你们都出生了？
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k***n
发帖数: 3158 | 6 the first controversial call of today's game is the call turning a
SO into a two runs homer for the Brave
【在 a***n 的大作中提到】
: 感觉这几年季后赛，稍微有争议的call多数都是偏向红鸟。
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m*r
发帖数: 37612 | 7 say say
【在 k***n 的大作中提到】
: the first controversial call of today's game is the call turning a
: SO into a two runs homer for the Brave
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k***n
发帖数: 3158 | 8 The pitch before Ross hit the 2 run homer, he requested for a time out
the home plate umpire did not response immediately so Ross prepared to
hit and Lohse started his motion to pitch, then the umpire called the
time out but both players continued to finish their actions, which resulted
a strike out.
【在 m*r 的大作中提到】
: say say
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n*n
发帖数: 1378 | 9 啥是infield fly rule call？
不大懂得说，什么意思啊？
【在 a***n 的大作中提到】
: 感觉这几年季后赛，稍微有争议的call多数都是偏向红鸟。
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l******n
发帖数: 1683 | 10 就是前面说的, 为了防止防守方故意不接内野的高飞球, 然后制造双杀的机会, 所以规
则里面就有这么一条.
【在 n*n 的大作中提到】
: 啥是infield fly rule call？
: 不大懂得说，什么意思啊？
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n*n
发帖数: 1378 | 11 晕，这个明显是失误
【在 l******n 的大作中提到】
: 就是前面说的, 为了防止防守方故意不接内野的高飞球, 然后制造双杀的机会, 所以规
: 则里面就有这么一条.
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k***n
发帖数: 3158 | 12 after it happend, we can of course say it is clearly an error
but in real time, what the umpire saw was a fielder was under the ball and
should make an easy catch but he stepped away. The observation made the
umpire have the judgement that the fielders were playing a trick so he made
the call.
the umpire should have considered that the ball was in an area deep enough
into the left field so the chance that they were playing a trick should be
very small.
【在 n*n 的大作中提到】
: 晕，这个明显是失误
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A**d
发帖数: 13310 | 13 The "fielder" who should have made an easy catch was the OUTfielder.
How can that be an "INfield" fly? The SS was screwing up by first
making the call as if he could make an easy backward catch, which
apparent was very hard.
made
【在 k***n 的大作中提到】
: after it happend, we can of course say it is clearly an error
: but in real time, what the umpire saw was a fielder was under the ball and
: should make an easy catch but he stepped away. The observation made the
: umpire have the judgement that the fielders were playing a trick so he made
: the call.
: the umpire should have considered that the ball was in an area deep enough
: into the left field so the chance that they were playing a trick should be
: very small.
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k***n
发帖数: 3158 | 14 http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/official_info/official_rules/definition_
Rule 2.00 (Infield Fly) Comment: On the infield fly rule the umpire is to
rule whether the ball could ordinarily have been handled by an infielder &#
151;not by some arbitrary limitation such as the grass, or the base lines.
The umpire must rule also that a ball is an infield fly, even if handled by
an outfielder, if, in the umpire’s judgment, the ball could have been
as easily handled by an infielder. The infield fly is in no sense to be
considered an appeal play. The umpire’s judgment must govern, and the
decision should be made immediately.
【在 A**d 的大作中提到】
: The "fielder" who should have made an easy catch was the OUTfielder.
: How can that be an "INfield" fly? The SS was screwing up by first
: making the call as if he could make an easy backward catch, which
: apparent was very hard.
:
: made
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A**d
发帖数: 13310 | 15 SS first called for it, then realized he couldn't handle. How did you see
the "ordinarily" key part?
Calling it so late only made it worse. You never have to wait so long for an
ordinary play...
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k***n
发帖数: 3158 | 16 I don't know why Kozma stepped away in the last second
he could be realizing that he could not handel the ball as you said
it could be just a miscommunication with Holiday
who knows
but the ball did not seem that difficult to catch for a MLB SS, IMO
So I don't question that the umpire consider this "ordinary"
what the umpire missed is that he should have realized that the ball
was deep enough into the LF so there was almost no chance that the cards
were trying to get a double play from it, so there was absolutely no
need for this call.
he called it so late because he did not think the cards would be trying
to get a double play until seeing Kozma's awkward stepping away. He thought
Kozma should easily catch the ball so his stepping away must be a trick.
All this happend so quickly and awkwrdly in the last second and the umpire's
brain was not enough to digest all of it in real time. That's my take.
an
【在 A**d 的大作中提到】
: SS first called for it, then realized he couldn't handle. How did you see
: the "ordinarily" key part?
: Calling it so late only made it worse. You never have to wait so long for an
: ordinary play...
: 在 kafen (Tiffany & Co) 的大作中提到: 】
: by
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A**d
发帖数: 13310 | 17 Ss don't often run so deep into outfield for a reason: making a backhand
catch is hard even for MLB players. And SS don't catch as many flyballs as
outfielders. The best excuse I can make for that garbage umpire is he was so
lazy that as soon as Kozma called, he just assumed an easy catch and didn't
bother to watch.
【在 k***n 的大作中提到】
: I don't know why Kozma stepped away in the last second
: he could be realizing that he could not handel the ball as you said
: it could be just a miscommunication with Holiday
: who knows
: but the ball did not seem that difficult to catch for a MLB SS, IMO
: So I don't question that the umpire consider this "ordinary"
: what the umpire missed is that he should have realized that the ball
: was deep enough into the LF so there was almost no chance that the cards
: were trying to get a double play from it, so there was absolutely no
: need for this call.
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