r***i
发帖数: 9780 | 1 而且是普遍问题，每个车型每年都有
最关键的是dealer检查一通，都说没问题，导致用户多次遇到
这么严重的问题nhtsa竟然没调查？
别家看了看几款都没发现这问题，别人的service brake基本都是手刹问题
丰田基本都是踩了刹车刹车无效
难怪尼玛路上丰田车前面空最大
这要再遇到自动加速祈祷上帝都没用了
例如：
2015 camry 24个brake 投诉
WHILE I WAS DRIVING ON FREEWAY AT 65 MPH, THE BRAKE PEDAL WENT DOWN TO THE
FLOOR AND MADE A LOUD GRINDING SOUND. THE DASHBOARD FLASHED WARNING LIGHTS "
BRAKE" AND A 2ND WARNING OF "CHECK BRAKE SYSTEM". I IMMEDIATELY PULLED OVER
AND CONSULTED THE MANUAL WHICH SAID STOP IMMEDIATELY AND CONTACT TOYOTA
DEALER, WHICH I DID. I TOOK THE CAR IN TO LIPTON TOYOTA, SUNRISE, FL (IT WAS
NEAR DEATH EXPERIENCE ON THE FREEWAY). BY THE TIME I REACHED THE DEALER THE
BRAKE LIGHTS WENT OUT. THEY CALLED LATER AND INFORMED ME NOTHING WAS WRONG.
I ASKED THEM TO RECHECK AS I KNEW SOMETHING WAS WRONG SINCE THE BRAKE DID
NOT FUNCTION PROPERLY AND MADE A TERRIBLE NOISE. THEY KEPT THE CAR UNTIL THE
FOLLOWING MORNING TO RECHECK THE CAR, AND AGAIN SAID NOTHING WAS WRONG. IT
HAPPENED TWICE ONE AT 22K AND ANOTHER AT 24K MILES
BRAKE DID NOT HOLD WHILE AT STOP LIGHT - VEHICLE WAS IN MOTION AT LIGHT
TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2015 TOYOTA CAMRY. WHILE APPROACHING A STOP WITH THE
BRAKE PEDAL DEPRESSED, THE BRAKES FAILED TO STOP AND THE VEHICLE CONTINUED
TO MOVE. THE ABS WARNING INDICATOR ILLUMINATED. IN ORDER TO STOP THE VEHICLE
, THE CONTACT HAD TO ENGAGE THE EMERGENCY BRAKE. THE LOCAL DEALER AND
MANUFACTURER WERE NOT CONTACTED. THE VEHICLE WAS NOT DIAGNOSED OR REPAIRED.
THE VIN WAS UNKNOWN. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS APPROXIMATELY 25,450.
L* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2015 TOYOTA CAMRY. WHILE THE VEHICLE WAS APPROACHING A
STOP AT AN INTERSECTION, THE BRAKES FAILED. THE CONTACT DEPRESSED THE BRAKE
PEDAL EXCESSIVELY, BUT THE VEHICLE WOULD NOT STOP. AS A RESULT, THE CONTACT
WAS INVOLVED IN A SIDE IMPACT COLLISION.
……………………
2016 camry 8个
IN NOVEMBER OF 2016 WHILE DRIVING BRAKE LIGHTS CAME UP IN 2 PLACES
INDICATING CHECK BRAKES. WHEN PUTTING FOOT ON THE BRAKES THEY WENT TO THE
FLOOR. TOOK CAR TO DEALERSHIP, THEY COULD NOT FIND ANYTHING WRONG. ON MAY 12
,2017 LEAVING MY HOUSE I NOTICED BOTH LIGHTS WERE ON INDICATING CHECK BRAKES
AND BRAKES. I LEFT THE DRIVEWAY AND WHEN I CAME TO A STOP THERE WAS A LOUND
NOICE COMING FROM THE BARKES AND MY FOOT WENT ALL THE WAY TO THE FLOOR. I
CALLED PAGE TOYOTA CAR WAS TOWED TO DEALERSHIP. ONCE AGAIN I WAS TOLD THAT
THEY COULD NOT FIND A PROBLEM.
I WAS IN BUMPER TO BUMPER TRAFFIC ON THE BELTWAY GOING BETWEEN 5 -10 MILES
PER HOUR ON A DRY ROAD. WHEN I APPLIED THE BRAKES MULTIPLE TIMES, THE CAR
WOULD NOT STOP AND IT CONTINUED FORWARD UNTIL I REAR ENDED THE OTHER CAR.
WHEN I APPLIED THE BRAKES, I NOTICED THE BRAKE PEDAL BEGAN TO PUMP.
CAR WAS PURCHASED 3/16 WITH NO PROBLEMS UNTIL WE WENT ON VACATION 6/16 WITH
ABOUT A 1200 MI ONE WAY DRIVE. UPON ARRIVAL WE NOTICED THAT AT LONG
STOPLIGHTS THE BRAKE WAS GOING TO THE FLOOR. AFTER HAVING THIS HAPPEN
SEVERAL TIMES THE CAR WOULD ACTUALLY START MOVING WITH THE PEDAL DOWN ON THE
FLOOR. PUMPING THE BRAKES WOULD BRING THE PRESSURE BACK UP, BUT THE PEDAL
WOULD STILL CREEP TO THE FLOOR ON STEADY PRESSURE.
……
2017 1个
WHEN I WAS DRIVING BACK HOME ON MY 2017 CAMRY XLE 2 NIGHTS AGO (CLEAR NIGHT,
DRY ROAD, GOOD DRIVING CONDITIONS) I HIT THE BRAKES AS I WAS APPROACHING A
RED TRAFFIC LIGHT. AS I DEPRESSED THE BRAKE PEDAL, IT WENT ALL THE WAY TO
THE FLOOR WITH A NOISE, WITHOUT BRAKING. LUCKILY, I WAS ALREADY DRIVING SLOW
AND THERE WAS NO CAR IN FRONT OF ME, ELSE I WOULD HAVE HIT ANY CAR THAT HAD
BEEN IN FRONT OF ME. I PANICKED AND HIT THE BRAKES AGAIN AND THIS TIME THE
CAR STOPPED A LITTLE SHORT OF THE CROSS TRAFFIC, BUT PAST THE PEDESTRIAN
CROSSING. I TOOK THE CAR IN FOR SERVICE TO TOYOTA AND THEY ARE TELLING ME
THAT THERE IS NO LOG OF THIS EVENT IN THE CAR'S "LOG" AND BECAUSE THEY WEREN
'T THERE WHEN THIS ISSUE HAPPENED THEY DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT CAUSED IT!
2017 rav4 6个
BREAKS FAILED WHEN BACKING OUT OF PARKING SPACE AND FAILED IMMEDIATELY AGAIN
WHEN TRYING TO PULL BACK INTO PARKING SPACE AFTER CAR HIT A CAR AND THEN
HIT A CART CORRAL PUSHING THAT INTO ANOTHER CAR. AS A RESULT 3 CARS
INCLUDING OURS WERE DAMAGED.
TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2017 TOYOTA RAV4. WHILE DRIVING AT UNKNOWN SPEEDS,
THE BRAKE PEDAL TRAVELED TO THE FLOOR WHEN DEPRESSED AND THE VEHICLE DID NOT
RESPOND. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO A LOCAL DEALER (PERFORMANCE TOYOTA
LOCATED AT 5676 DIXIE HWY FAIRFIELD, OH 45014) WHERE IT DIAGNOSED THAT THE
BRAKES MET TOYOTA SPECIFICATIONS. THE VEHICLE WAS NOT REPAIRED. THE
MANUFACTURER WAS NOTIFIED OF THE FAILURE AND DID NOT ASSIST. THE FAILURE
MILEAGE WAS 1,400. UPDATED 11/02/17*LJ
……
2017 爬坡王 1个
2017 TOYOTA HIGLANDER. CONSUMER WRITES IN REGARDS TO UNINTENDED ACCELERATION
. *LD
THE CONSUMER STATED WHILE DEPRESSING THE BREAK PEDAL THE VEHICLE CONTINUED
TO MOVE FORWARD. DUE TO THE FAILURE THE CONSUMER HAS RAN INTO A HANDICAP
SIGN, LAWN TRACTOR AND WHEELBARROW. THE COLLISIONS CAUSED DAMAGE TO THE
FRONT BUMPER, NUMBER PLATE AND NUMBER PLATE COVER. ALSO, CAUSED DEEP
SCRATCHES TOT HE LEFT LOWER PANEL. THE VEHICLE WAS REPAIRED. THE
MANUFACTURER WAS NOTIFIED UPDATED 09/28/2017*JS
2017 corolla 4个
I PULLED IN A PARKING LOT OF MY APARTMENT BUILDING, BUT MY CAR FAILED TO
STOP AT THE CAR STOPPER (BUMP) AND KEPT GOING. I KEPT APPLYING THE BRAKES,
BUT THE CAR KEPT GOING . IT WENT THROUGH A WOODEN FENCE, I CONTINUED TO
APPLY THE BAKES, BUT THE CAR DIDN'T RESPOND AND KEPT GOING UNTIL IT HITS THE
WALL OF THE ADJACENT BUILDING. |
t**d
发帖数: 6474 | 2 自动加速问题，当年政府调查了很久，不也是没结论吗？
我估计十有八九是阴谋，很多加速的例子是假的。这么一搞，丰田销量大降，救活了福
特。
【在 r***i 的大作中提到】
: 而且是普遍问题，每个车型每年都有
: 最关键的是dealer检查一通，都说没问题，导致用户多次遇到
: 这么严重的问题nhtsa竟然没调查？
: 别家看了看几款都没发现这问题，别人的service brake基本都是手刹问题
: 丰田基本都是踩了刹车刹车无效
: 难怪尼玛路上丰田车前面空最大
: 这要再遇到自动加速祈祷上帝都没用了
: 例如：
: 2015 camry 24个brake 投诉
: WHILE I WAS DRIVING ON FREEWAY AT 65 MPH, THE BRAKE PEDAL WENT DOWN TO THE
|
m******c
发帖数: 1202 | |
r***i
发帖数: 9780 | 4 阴毛个屁
阴毛论是丰田为了继续忽悠人到处雇佣水军扯淡
如果真有阴毛
那就是4月份就调查了，不会等到奥黑旧车换新车计划结束，丰田成为最大赢家
本版就有车主遇到，高速上猛加速，最后准备撞18轮，结果突然好了
还有个车主说自己的es350遇到好几次，踩刹车反而猛加速，不过都是加速10几秒就停了
所以也没管他
而且网上视频也有，自己去看
暴露的原因是圣迭戈那个警察打了911
而且确实有几百人死亡与之相关，要不你以为丰田动不动给别人几百万也是阴毛？
否则估计掩盖到现在还屁事没有
调查不出问题就像你的window偶然出个蓝屏，你知道原因么？
最后调查报告是丰田给的，nhtsa没办法还专门注明
因为丰田不给查看代码
丰田之前没有刹车是爷系统，刹车没有优先权
现在问题少见了，是加了个补丁，虽然这个补丁有时候形同虚设，但是大部分时候还能
起点作用
【在 t**d 的大作中提到】
: 自动加速问题，当年政府调查了很久，不也是没结论吗？
: 我估计十有八九是阴谋，很多加速的例子是假的。这么一搞，丰田销量大降，救活了福
: 特。
|
t**d
发帖数: 6474 | 5 那个警察打911求救的尤其可疑。他有时间打电话，难道没时间拉手刹和换到空档？
停了
【在 r***i 的大作中提到】
: 阴毛个屁
: 阴毛论是丰田为了继续忽悠人到处雇佣水军扯淡
: 如果真有阴毛
: 那就是4月份就调查了，不会等到奥黑旧车换新车计划结束，丰田成为最大赢家
: 本版就有车主遇到，高速上猛加速，最后准备撞18轮，结果突然好了
: 还有个车主说自己的es350遇到好几次，踩刹车反而猛加速，不过都是加速10几秒就停了
: 所以也没管他
: 而且网上视频也有，自己去看
: 暴露的原因是圣迭戈那个警察打了911
: 而且确实有几百人死亡与之相关，要不你以为丰田动不动给别人几百万也是阴毛？
|
r***i
发帖数: 9780 | 6 有啥可疑的
人家在dmv工作的
当然所有操作都无效才打的911，换空档有效还能等着撞死？、
你以为别人是sb？
这个已经早就确认了，丰田自动加速系统全卡死，什么操作都无效，而且不止这一个案例
唯一的可用操作是第一时间把刹车踩到底，然后停下来换到p档位，
那个yaris自动加速视频就是如此，最后换到p档发动机依然在嘶吼最后脱肛
国内有个scion也是，高速疯狂跑了2个小时，最后就是靠使劲踩刹车加蹭护栏才停下来
然后现在没后续了，估计已经被丰田封口了
圣迭戈那个为什么不行，是因为没有第一时间踩到底，最后导致刹车过热，轮胎都着火了
【在 t**d 的大作中提到】
: 那个警察打911求救的尤其可疑。他有时间打电话，难道没时间拉手刹和换到空档？
:
: 停了
|
t**d
发帖数: 6474 | 7 故事是这样写的，实际情况没人知道，当事人也死了。这个故事出来后，每天都有类似
报道，那些当事人不是SB，很多是找乐子的。
手刹在任何条件下都有用，是纯手动控制的。
案例
火了
【在 r***i 的大作中提到】
: 有啥可疑的
: 人家在dmv工作的
: 当然所有操作都无效才打的911，换空档有效还能等着撞死？、
: 你以为别人是sb？
: 这个已经早就确认了，丰田自动加速系统全卡死，什么操作都无效，而且不止这一个案例
: 唯一的可用操作是第一时间把刹车踩到底，然后停下来换到p档位，
: 那个yaris自动加速视频就是如此，最后换到p档发动机依然在嘶吼最后脱肛
: 国内有个scion也是，高速疯狂跑了2个小时，最后就是靠使劲踩刹车加蹭护栏才停下来
: 然后现在没后续了，估计已经被丰田封口了
: 圣迭戈那个为什么不行，是因为没有第一时间踩到底，最后导致刹车过热，轮胎都着火了
|
r***i
发帖数: 9780 | 8 我擦
你比别人都聪明
丰田就是这么垃圾，不要怀疑了
看看有人分析破解代码就知道
小日本编写软件就是joke
【在 t**d 的大作中提到】
: 故事是这样写的，实际情况没人知道，当事人也死了。这个故事出来后，每天都有类似
: 报道，那些当事人不是SB，很多是找乐子的。
: 手刹在任何条件下都有用，是纯手动控制的。
:
: 案例
: 火了
|
m******c
发帖数: 1202 | 9 那个谁录像里不是拍了高速拉手刹就是找死吗？
【在 t**d 的大作中提到】
: 故事是这样写的，实际情况没人知道，当事人也死了。这个故事出来后，每天都有类似
: 报道，那些当事人不是SB，很多是找乐子的。
: 手刹在任何条件下都有用，是纯手动控制的。
:
: 案例
: 火了
|
t**d
发帖数: 6474 | 10 这个不是谁聪明的问题。美国政府调查部门难道还不如你？调查的结果，发现了是软件
的问题？
你连这个逻辑都不懂？没有问题的，搞调查说他有问题很难，因为很容易被证明结论是
错误的。
【在 r***i 的大作中提到】
: 我擦
: 你比别人都聪明
: 丰田就是这么垃圾，不要怀疑了
: 看看有人分析破解代码就知道
: 小日本编写软件就是joke
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t**d
发帖数: 6474 | 11 什么原理？高速不能用手刹？
【在 m******c 的大作中提到】
: 那个谁录像里不是拍了高速拉手刹就是找死吗？
|
m********s
发帖数: 55301 | 12 laoselang一年开从他邻居、朋友、同事那里借来的丰田车不下几百次，开了上万英里
，真希望laoselang自己赶上一次自动加速和刹车失灵。 |
r***i
发帖数: 9780 | 13 丰田百般阻挠，什么都不提供给nhtsa，什么第一手的资料都不让第三方接手，只能丰
田分析给结果。
nhtsa要看代码，丰田安排了一台老旧不堪，慢的要死的电脑，让自己员工在那操作翻
页，然后nhtsa的专家现场看，不能动手。你说能看出来什么？
一方面又提供各种虚假证据，说用户没踩刹车，说什么脚垫卡油门，说什么油门自己缺陷
卡住，一会一个样
总之就是不承认软件有问题
实际上那个烂系统卡死根本就记录不了任何操作
另一方面收买受害者封口
有个受害者请了高手破解丰田的软件，发现丰田软件错漏百出，光全局变量就用了1万
多个，丰田赶紧掏了300万封口，网上到处删贴
这些网上都还有，你可以自己慢慢看
nhtsa最后没办法，只好采用了了丰田写的调查报告而已
因为确实太随机了，根本找不到任何可以直接对付丰田的证据
除非你在n个车上安装专门的设备，然后某天遇到一个，记录全过程
反正报告丰田写的，以后再发现问题那也是丰田的，而不是nhtsa的，所以nhtsa这种官
僚机构就这么不了了之了
【在 t**d 的大作中提到】
: 这个不是谁聪明的问题。美国政府调查部门难道还不如你？调查的结果，发现了是软件
: 的问题？
: 你连这个逻辑都不懂？没有问题的，搞调查说他有问题很难，因为很容易被证明结论是
: 错误的。
|
r***i
发帖数: 9780 | 14 而且是普遍问题，每个车型每年都有
最关键的是dealer检查一通，都说没问题，导致用户多次遇到
这么严重的问题nhtsa竟然没调查？
别家看了看几款都没发现这问题，别人的service brake基本都是手刹问题
丰田基本都是踩了刹车刹车无效
难怪尼玛路上丰田车前面空最大
这要再遇到自动加速祈祷上帝都没用了
例如：
2015 camry 24个brake 投诉
WHILE I WAS DRIVING ON FREEWAY AT 65 MPH, THE BRAKE PEDAL WENT DOWN TO THE
FLOOR AND MADE A LOUD GRINDING SOUND. THE DASHBOARD FLASHED WARNING LIGHTS "
BRAKE" AND A 2ND WARNING OF "CHECK BRAKE SYSTEM". I IMMEDIATELY PULLED OVER
AND CONSULTED THE MANUAL WHICH SAID STOP IMMEDIATELY AND CONTACT TOYOTA
DEALER, WHICH I DID. I TOOK THE CAR IN TO LIPTON TOYOTA, SUNRISE, FL (IT WAS
NEAR DEATH EXPERIENCE ON THE FREEWAY). BY THE TIME I REACHED THE DEALER THE
BRAKE LIGHTS WENT OUT. THEY CALLED LATER AND INFORMED ME NOTHING WAS WRONG.
I ASKED THEM TO RECHECK AS I KNEW SOMETHING WAS WRONG SINCE THE BRAKE DID
NOT FUNCTION PROPERLY AND MADE A TERRIBLE NOISE. THEY KEPT THE CAR UNTIL THE
FOLLOWING MORNING TO RECHECK THE CAR, AND AGAIN SAID NOTHING WAS WRONG. IT
HAPPENED TWICE ONE AT 22K AND ANOTHER AT 24K MILES
BRAKE DID NOT HOLD WHILE AT STOP LIGHT - VEHICLE WAS IN MOTION AT LIGHT
TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2015 TOYOTA CAMRY. WHILE APPROACHING A STOP WITH THE
BRAKE PEDAL DEPRESSED, THE BRAKES FAILED TO STOP AND THE VEHICLE CONTINUED
TO MOVE. THE ABS WARNING INDICATOR ILLUMINATED. IN ORDER TO STOP THE VEHICLE
, THE CONTACT HAD TO ENGAGE THE EMERGENCY BRAKE. THE LOCAL DEALER AND
MANUFACTURER WERE NOT CONTACTED. THE VEHICLE WAS NOT DIAGNOSED OR REPAIRED.
THE VIN WAS UNKNOWN. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS APPROXIMATELY 25,450.
L* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2015 TOYOTA CAMRY. WHILE THE VEHICLE WAS APPROACHING A
STOP AT AN INTERSECTION, THE BRAKES FAILED. THE CONTACT DEPRESSED THE BRAKE
PEDAL EXCESSIVELY, BUT THE VEHICLE WOULD NOT STOP. AS A RESULT, THE CONTACT
WAS INVOLVED IN A SIDE IMPACT COLLISION.
……………………
2016 camry 8个
IN NOVEMBER OF 2016 WHILE DRIVING BRAKE LIGHTS CAME UP IN 2 PLACES
INDICATING CHECK BRAKES. WHEN PUTTING FOOT ON THE BRAKES THEY WENT TO THE
FLOOR. TOOK CAR TO DEALERSHIP, THEY COULD NOT FIND ANYTHING WRONG. ON MAY 12
,2017 LEAVING MY HOUSE I NOTICED BOTH LIGHTS WERE ON INDICATING CHECK BRAKES
AND BRAKES. I LEFT THE DRIVEWAY AND WHEN I CAME TO A STOP THERE WAS A LOUND
NOICE COMING FROM THE BARKES AND MY FOOT WENT ALL THE WAY TO THE FLOOR. I
CALLED PAGE TOYOTA CAR WAS TOWED TO DEALERSHIP. ONCE AGAIN I WAS TOLD THAT
THEY COULD NOT FIND A PROBLEM.
I WAS IN BUMPER TO BUMPER TRAFFIC ON THE BELTWAY GOING BETWEEN 5 -10 MILES
PER HOUR ON A DRY ROAD. WHEN I APPLIED THE BRAKES MULTIPLE TIMES, THE CAR
WOULD NOT STOP AND IT CONTINUED FORWARD UNTIL I REAR ENDED THE OTHER CAR.
WHEN I APPLIED THE BRAKES, I NOTICED THE BRAKE PEDAL BEGAN TO PUMP.
CAR WAS PURCHASED 3/16 WITH NO PROBLEMS UNTIL WE WENT ON VACATION 6/16 WITH
ABOUT A 1200 MI ONE WAY DRIVE. UPON ARRIVAL WE NOTICED THAT AT LONG
STOPLIGHTS THE BRAKE WAS GOING TO THE FLOOR. AFTER HAVING THIS HAPPEN
SEVERAL TIMES THE CAR WOULD ACTUALLY START MOVING WITH THE PEDAL DOWN ON THE
FLOOR. PUMPING THE BRAKES WOULD BRING THE PRESSURE BACK UP, BUT THE PEDAL
WOULD STILL CREEP TO THE FLOOR ON STEADY PRESSURE.
……
2017 1个
WHEN I WAS DRIVING BACK HOME ON MY 2017 CAMRY XLE 2 NIGHTS AGO (CLEAR NIGHT,
DRY ROAD, GOOD DRIVING CONDITIONS) I HIT THE BRAKES AS I WAS APPROACHING A
RED TRAFFIC LIGHT. AS I DEPRESSED THE BRAKE PEDAL, IT WENT ALL THE WAY TO
THE FLOOR WITH A NOISE, WITHOUT BRAKING. LUCKILY, I WAS ALREADY DRIVING SLOW
AND THERE WAS NO CAR IN FRONT OF ME, ELSE I WOULD HAVE HIT ANY CAR THAT HAD
BEEN IN FRONT OF ME. I PANICKED AND HIT THE BRAKES AGAIN AND THIS TIME THE
CAR STOPPED A LITTLE SHORT OF THE CROSS TRAFFIC, BUT PAST THE PEDESTRIAN
CROSSING. I TOOK THE CAR IN FOR SERVICE TO TOYOTA AND THEY ARE TELLING ME
THAT THERE IS NO LOG OF THIS EVENT IN THE CAR'S "LOG" AND BECAUSE THEY WEREN
'T THERE WHEN THIS ISSUE HAPPENED THEY DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT CAUSED IT!
2017 rav4 6个
BREAKS FAILED WHEN BACKING OUT OF PARKING SPACE AND FAILED IMMEDIATELY AGAIN
WHEN TRYING TO PULL BACK INTO PARKING SPACE AFTER CAR HIT A CAR AND THEN
HIT A CART CORRAL PUSHING THAT INTO ANOTHER CAR. AS A RESULT 3 CARS
INCLUDING OURS WERE DAMAGED.
TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2017 TOYOTA RAV4. WHILE DRIVING AT UNKNOWN SPEEDS,
THE BRAKE PEDAL TRAVELED TO THE FLOOR WHEN DEPRESSED AND THE VEHICLE DID NOT
RESPOND. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO A LOCAL DEALER (PERFORMANCE TOYOTA
LOCATED AT 5676 DIXIE HWY FAIRFIELD, OH 45014) WHERE IT DIAGNOSED THAT THE
BRAKES MET TOYOTA SPECIFICATIONS. THE VEHICLE WAS NOT REPAIRED. THE
MANUFACTURER WAS NOTIFIED OF THE FAILURE AND DID NOT ASSIST. THE FAILURE
MILEAGE WAS 1,400. UPDATED 11/02/17*LJ
……
2017 爬坡王 1个
2017 TOYOTA HIGLANDER. CONSUMER WRITES IN REGARDS TO UNINTENDED ACCELERATION
. *LD
THE CONSUMER STATED WHILE DEPRESSING THE BREAK PEDAL THE VEHICLE CONTINUED
TO MOVE FORWARD. DUE TO THE FAILURE THE CONSUMER HAS RAN INTO A HANDICAP
SIGN, LAWN TRACTOR AND WHEELBARROW. THE COLLISIONS CAUSED DAMAGE TO THE
FRONT BUMPER, NUMBER PLATE AND NUMBER PLATE COVER. ALSO, CAUSED DEEP
SCRATCHES TOT HE LEFT LOWER PANEL. THE VEHICLE WAS REPAIRED. THE
MANUFACTURER WAS NOTIFIED UPDATED 09/28/2017*JS
2017 corolla 4个
I PULLED IN A PARKING LOT OF MY APARTMENT BUILDING, BUT MY CAR FAILED TO
STOP AT THE CAR STOPPER (BUMP) AND KEPT GOING. I KEPT APPLYING THE BRAKES,
BUT THE CAR KEPT GOING . IT WENT THROUGH A WOODEN FENCE, I CONTINUED TO
APPLY THE BAKES, BUT THE CAR DIDN'T RESPOND AND KEPT GOING UNTIL IT HITS THE
WALL OF THE ADJACENT BUILDING. |
t**d
发帖数: 6474 | 15 自动加速问题，当年政府调查了很久，不也是没结论吗？
我估计十有八九是阴谋，很多加速的例子是假的。这么一搞，丰田销量大降，救活了福
特。
【在 r***i 的大作中提到】
: 而且是普遍问题，每个车型每年都有
: 最关键的是dealer检查一通，都说没问题，导致用户多次遇到
: 这么严重的问题nhtsa竟然没调查？
: 别家看了看几款都没发现这问题，别人的service brake基本都是手刹问题
: 丰田基本都是踩了刹车刹车无效
: 难怪尼玛路上丰田车前面空最大
: 这要再遇到自动加速祈祷上帝都没用了
: 例如：
: 2015 camry 24个brake 投诉
: WHILE I WAS DRIVING ON FREEWAY AT 65 MPH, THE BRAKE PEDAL WENT DOWN TO THE
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m******c
发帖数: 1202 | |
r***i
发帖数: 9780 | 17 阴毛个屁
阴毛论是丰田为了继续忽悠人到处雇佣水军扯淡
如果真有阴毛
那就是4月份就调查了，不会等到奥黑旧车换新车计划结束，丰田成为最大赢家
本版就有车主遇到，高速上猛加速，最后准备撞18轮，结果突然好了
还有个车主说自己的es350遇到好几次，踩刹车反而猛加速，不过都是加速10几秒就停了
所以也没管他
而且网上视频也有，自己去看
暴露的原因是圣迭戈那个警察打了911
而且确实有几百人死亡与之相关，要不你以为丰田动不动给别人几百万也是阴毛？
否则估计掩盖到现在还屁事没有
调查不出问题就像你的window偶然出个蓝屏，你知道原因么？
最后调查报告是丰田给的，nhtsa没办法还专门注明
因为丰田不给查看代码
丰田之前没有刹车是爷系统，刹车没有优先权
现在问题少见了，是加了个补丁，虽然这个补丁有时候形同虚设，但是大部分时候还能
起点作用
【在 t**d 的大作中提到】
: 自动加速问题，当年政府调查了很久，不也是没结论吗？
: 我估计十有八九是阴谋，很多加速的例子是假的。这么一搞，丰田销量大降，救活了福
: 特。
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t**d
发帖数: 6474 | 18 那个警察打911求救的尤其可疑。他有时间打电话，难道没时间拉手刹和换到空档？
停了
【在 r***i 的大作中提到】
: 阴毛个屁
: 阴毛论是丰田为了继续忽悠人到处雇佣水军扯淡
: 如果真有阴毛
: 那就是4月份就调查了，不会等到奥黑旧车换新车计划结束，丰田成为最大赢家
: 本版就有车主遇到，高速上猛加速，最后准备撞18轮，结果突然好了
: 还有个车主说自己的es350遇到好几次，踩刹车反而猛加速，不过都是加速10几秒就停了
: 所以也没管他
: 而且网上视频也有，自己去看
: 暴露的原因是圣迭戈那个警察打了911
: 而且确实有几百人死亡与之相关，要不你以为丰田动不动给别人几百万也是阴毛？
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r***i
发帖数: 9780 | 19 有啥可疑的
人家在dmv工作的
当然所有操作都无效才打的911，换空档有效还能等着撞死？、
你以为别人是sb？
这个已经早就确认了，丰田自动加速系统全卡死，什么操作都无效，而且不止这一个案例
唯一的可用操作是第一时间把刹车踩到底，然后停下来换到p档位，
那个yaris自动加速视频就是如此，最后换到p档发动机依然在嘶吼最后脱肛
国内有个scion也是，高速疯狂跑了2个小时，最后就是靠使劲踩刹车加蹭护栏才停下来
然后现在没后续了，估计已经被丰田封口了
圣迭戈那个为什么不行，是因为没有第一时间踩到底，最后导致刹车过热，轮胎都着火了
【在 t**d 的大作中提到】
: 那个警察打911求救的尤其可疑。他有时间打电话，难道没时间拉手刹和换到空档？
:
: 停了
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t**d
发帖数: 6474 | 20 故事是这样写的，实际情况没人知道，当事人也死了。这个故事出来后，每天都有类似
报道，那些当事人不是SB，很多是找乐子的。
手刹在任何条件下都有用，是纯手动控制的。
案例
火了
【在 r***i 的大作中提到】
: 有啥可疑的
: 人家在dmv工作的
: 当然所有操作都无效才打的911，换空档有效还能等着撞死？、
: 你以为别人是sb？
: 这个已经早就确认了，丰田自动加速系统全卡死，什么操作都无效，而且不止这一个案例
: 唯一的可用操作是第一时间把刹车踩到底，然后停下来换到p档位，
: 那个yaris自动加速视频就是如此，最后换到p档发动机依然在嘶吼最后脱肛
: 国内有个scion也是，高速疯狂跑了2个小时，最后就是靠使劲踩刹车加蹭护栏才停下来
: 然后现在没后续了，估计已经被丰田封口了
: 圣迭戈那个为什么不行，是因为没有第一时间踩到底，最后导致刹车过热，轮胎都着火了
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r***i
发帖数: 9780 | 21 我擦
你比别人都聪明
丰田就是这么垃圾，不要怀疑了
看看有人分析破解代码就知道
小日本编写软件就是joke
【在 t**d 的大作中提到】
: 故事是这样写的，实际情况没人知道，当事人也死了。这个故事出来后，每天都有类似
: 报道，那些当事人不是SB，很多是找乐子的。
: 手刹在任何条件下都有用，是纯手动控制的。
:
: 案例
: 火了
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m******c
发帖数: 1202 | 22 那个谁录像里不是拍了高速拉手刹就是找死吗？
【在 t**d 的大作中提到】
: 故事是这样写的，实际情况没人知道，当事人也死了。这个故事出来后，每天都有类似
: 报道，那些当事人不是SB，很多是找乐子的。
: 手刹在任何条件下都有用，是纯手动控制的。
:
: 案例
: 火了
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t**d
发帖数: 6474 | 23 这个不是谁聪明的问题。美国政府调查部门难道还不如你？调查的结果，发现了是软件
的问题？
你连这个逻辑都不懂？没有问题的，搞调查说他有问题很难，因为很容易被证明结论是
错误的。
【在 r***i 的大作中提到】
: 我擦
: 你比别人都聪明
: 丰田就是这么垃圾，不要怀疑了
: 看看有人分析破解代码就知道
: 小日本编写软件就是joke
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t**d
发帖数: 6474 | 24 什么原理？高速不能用手刹？
【在 m******c 的大作中提到】
: 那个谁录像里不是拍了高速拉手刹就是找死吗？
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m********s
发帖数: 55301 | 25 laoselang一年开从他邻居、朋友、同事那里借来的丰田车不下几百次，开了上万英里
，真希望laoselang自己赶上一次自动加速和刹车失灵。 |
r***i
发帖数: 9780 | 26 丰田百般阻挠，什么都不提供给nhtsa，什么第一手的资料都不让第三方接手，只能丰
田分析给结果。
nhtsa要看代码，丰田安排了一台老旧不堪，慢的要死的电脑，让自己员工在那操作翻
页，然后nhtsa的专家现场看，不能动手。你说能看出来什么？
一方面又提供各种虚假证据，说用户没踩刹车，说什么脚垫卡油门，说什么油门自己缺陷
卡住，一会一个样
总之就是不承认软件有问题
实际上那个烂系统卡死根本就记录不了任何操作
另一方面收买受害者封口
有个受害者请了高手破解丰田的软件，发现丰田软件错漏百出，光全局变量就用了1万
多个，丰田赶紧掏了300万封口，网上到处删贴
这些网上都还有，你可以自己慢慢看
nhtsa最后没办法，只好采用了了丰田写的调查报告而已
因为确实太随机了，根本找不到任何可以直接对付丰田的证据
除非你在n个车上安装专门的设备，然后某天遇到一个，记录全过程
反正报告丰田写的，以后再发现问题那也是丰田的，而不是nhtsa的，所以nhtsa这种官
僚机构就这么不了了之了
【在 t**d 的大作中提到】
: 这个不是谁聪明的问题。美国政府调查部门难道还不如你？调查的结果，发现了是软件
: 的问题？
: 你连这个逻辑都不懂？没有问题的，搞调查说他有问题很难，因为很容易被证明结论是
: 错误的。
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D***I
发帖数: 1957 | |
n***s
发帖数: 10056 | 28 He tried but all failed. He was a trooper and know cars. Too sad he picked
Lexus.
【在 t**d 的大作中提到】
: 那个警察打911求救的尤其可疑。他有时间打电话，难道没时间拉手刹和换到空档？
:
: 停了
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S*******s
发帖数: 361 | 29 从追尾测试和小面积碰撞左右结构就知道丰田心术不正了。 |
n***s
发帖数: 10056 | 30 Oh, an old post.
oh well. |
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E****a
发帖数: 3088 | 31 看来色老师把自动加速想通了，现在转移战场到刹车了 |
b********r
发帖数: 837 | 32 最可怕的还是自燃门吧
【在 r***i 的大作中提到】
: 而且是普遍问题，每个车型每年都有
: 最关键的是dealer检查一通，都说没问题，导致用户多次遇到
: 这么严重的问题nhtsa竟然没调查？
: 别家看了看几款都没发现这问题，别人的service brake基本都是手刹问题
: 丰田基本都是踩了刹车刹车无效
: 难怪尼玛路上丰田车前面空最大
: 这要再遇到自动加速祈祷上帝都没用了
: 例如：
: 2015 camry 24个brake 投诉
: WHILE I WAS DRIVING ON FREEWAY AT 65 MPH, THE BRAKE PEDAL WENT DOWN TO THE
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M******e
发帖数: 4179 | 33 手刹和油门哪个厉害，你有经历过吗？
我有过经历，有一次在高速加油站加油拉了手刹，启动的时候忘了松开，一路就开上高
速，开车的感觉就是觉得加速没有那么顺畅。开了几分钟左查右查才发现是手刹还没松
开。
结论：在油门面前手刹就是个屁。手刹只在停车和低速溜车时有用。
【在 t**d 的大作中提到】
: 什么原理？高速不能用手刹？
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D***I
发帖数: 1957 | 34 别放屁了
我说的很清楚，丰田既有自动加速问题，也有刹车失灵问题
【在 E****a 的大作中提到】
: 看来色老师把自动加速想通了，现在转移战场到刹车了
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b********r
发帖数: 837 | 35 还有开到半路莫名其妙就着火了。。。
【在 D***I 的大作中提到】
: 别放屁了
: 我说的很清楚，丰田既有自动加速问题，也有刹车失灵问题
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D***I
发帖数: 1957 | |
D***I
发帖数: 1957 | 37 开在路上着火的不算啥，停在家里着火的也很多
【在 b********r 的大作中提到】
: 还有开到半路莫名其妙就着火了。。。
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b********r
发帖数: 837 | 38 停家里着火的舔托们一般都会说是别人嫉妒他们的车好故意放的火
【在 D***I 的大作中提到】
: 开在路上着火的不算啥，停在家里着火的也很多
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D***I
发帖数: 1957 | 39 好像本版有个丰田车主的丰田停在家里烧了差点连着房子都着了
本版田托们就是这么说的，是不是有人放火啊
【在 b********r 的大作中提到】
: 停家里着火的舔托们一般都会说是别人嫉妒他们的车好故意放的火
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D***I
发帖数: 1957 | 40 2017 prius刹车失灵，一样的遇到多次，一样的到了dealer找不到任何问题
TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2017 TOYOTA PRIUS PRIME. WHILE DRIVING APPROXIMATELY
65 MPH, THE BRAKE PEDAL WAS DEPRESSED AND THE VEHICLE SPUN OUT OF CONTROL.
THE BRAKE WARNING INDICATOR ILLUMINATED. THE FAILURE RECURRED TWICE. THE
VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO TOYOTA OF POWAY (13631 POWAY RD, POWAY, CA 92064), BUT
WAS NOT DIAGNOSED OR REPAIRED. THE MANUFACTURER WAS NOTIFIED AND DID NOT
ASSIST. THE APPROXIMATE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 7,000.
还有自动加速
December 28, 2017 NHTSA ID NUMBER: 11057015
Components: VEHICLE SPEED CONTROL
NHTSA ID Number: 11057015
Incident Date June 23, 2017
Consumer Location HOHENWALD, TN
Vehicle Identification Number JTDKARFU7H3****
WHILE DRIVING ON INTERSTATE HIGHWAY IN HEAVY TRAFFIC USING CRUISE CONTROL MY
CAR SUDDENLY ACCELERATED QUICKLY.
而且自动加速的车型还不在丰田召回目录内，竟然让用户自己掏检测费用，真他么无耻
用户最后因为费用没做检查
September 25, 2017 NHTSA ID NUMBER: 11025256
Components: POWER TRAIN, VEHICLE SPEED CONTROL
NHTSA ID Number: 11025256
Incident Date March 31, 2017
Consumer Location COSTA MESA, CA
Vehicle Identification Number JTDKARFU4H3****
TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2017 TOYOTA PRIUS. WHILE THE VEHICLE WAS PARKED, IT
ROLLED WITHOUT WARNING. THE CONTACT WAS ABLE TO CATCH UP WITH THE VEHICLE
BEFORE IT STRUCK A POLICE VEHICLE. THE OFFICER GAVE THE CONTACT A WARNING.
IN ADDITION, THE VEHICLE ACCELERATED ON ITS OWN INTERMITTENTLY. THE LOCAL
DEALER (ELMORE TOYOTA, 15300 BEACH BLVD, WESTMINISTER, CA, 92683) INFORMED
THE CONTACT THAT THE VEHICLE WAS NOT INCLUDED IN NHTSA CAMPAIGN NUMBER:
16V741000 (SERVICE BRAKES), AND RECOMMENDED HE SCHEDULE AN APPOINTMENT FOR
DIAGNOSTIC TESTING. THE VEHICLE WAS NOT DIAGNOSED DUE TO THE DIAGNOSTIC FEE.
THE MANUFACTURER WAS CONTACTED AND PROVIDED CASE NUMBER: 1709193209. THE
MANUFACTURER CONFIRMED THAT THE VEHICLE WAS NOT INCLUDED IN THE RECALL, AND
THAT THERE WOULD BE A DIAGNOSTIC CHARGE. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS
APPROXIMATELY 15,000. |
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D***I
发帖数: 1957 | 41 nx垃圾的刹车失灵，也是一样的踩到底没反应，检查不出来任何问题
ON AUGUST 07, 2017 AT APPROXIMATELY 4:49 PM CDT MY DAUGHTER WAS INVOLVED IN
A ACCIDENT, CAR CRASH AS REAR END COLLISION. SHE WAS DRIVING LEXUS NX 200T
ON THE SERVICE ROAD ABOUT 39 MPH AND AT THE DISTANCE ABOUT 50 TO 60 FEET AS
SHE WAS APPROACHING IN THE CAR IN FRONT, SHE HAD HER FOOT ON THE BREAK AND
HER VEHICLE WAS NOT STOPPING AND SHE WAS PUSHING THE BREAKS REPEATEDLY AND
THE BREAKS DIDN'T FUNCTION AND THE CAR DIDN'T SLOW DOWN. FINALLY SHE
EMBRACED FOR IMPACT AND ENDED UP TO REAR END CRASH AND HITTING HEAD ON THE
VEHICLE IN FRONT OF HER, AND ALSO PUSHING IT TO HIT ANOTHER VEHICLE CAUSING
REAR END COLLISION AND INVOLVING 3 CARS IN CRASH. (INITIALLY IN DISTANCE I
SAW BOTH OTHER TWO CARS IN FRONT OF ME TAKING BREAKS AS THEY WERE ABOUT TO
STOP, THE FIRST CAR STOPPED COMPLETELY FIRST, THE SECOND ONE SLAMMED ON THE
BREAKS A VERY HARSH ONE AND DON'T REALLY KNOW IF HE HIT THE FIRST ONE OR
WHEN I HIT IT THAT HAPPEN AND REGARDLESS HIS FOOT WAS STILL ON THE BREAKS
THEN HE COULDN'T AVOID HITTING THE FIRST ONE ???)
BEFORE THE CRASH AND ABOUT 3 MONTHS AGO MY DAUGHTER TOLD ME THAT HER BREAKS
WERE SKIDING OUT OF CONTROL, AND ALSO I HAD RECEIVED THE RECALL FROM LEXUS
AND URGENTLY STOPPED BY LEXUS DEALER AND HAD RECALL INSPECTION COMPLETED.
BASED ON INVOICE THE CAR WAS INSPECTED BY LEXUS AND REPROGRAMMED THE BREAK
SKID CONTROL ECU AS PART OF RECALL, AND THIS IS THE MOST SCARY PART KNOWING
THAT THE BREAK ISSUE FAILURE IS STILL HAPPENING EVEN AFTER THE RECALL.
I HAVE REPORTED THIS INCIDENT TO MY INSURANCE FOR FURTHER INVESTIGATION TO
IDENTIFY THE BREAK FAILURE CAUSE AND CONTACTING LEXUS FOR THEIR AWARENESS
AND OWN INVESTIGATION AS NECESSARILY SO THE RIGHT PREVENTIVE ACTIONS ARE
PLACED TO STOP ANY OTHER REOCCURRENCE. SO AT THIS POINT THE INVESTIGATION IS
IN PROCESS & I WILL UPDATE THIS SITE ONCE IT IS DONE AND THE OUTCOMES OF
BLACK BOX COMPUTER RETRIEVAL DATA ARE OBTAINED.
I WAS RECENTLY INVOLVED IN A CAR CRASH. HAD MY FOOT ON THE BRAKE AND MY
VEHICLE BARELY STOPPED OR SLOWED DOWN AND I ENDED UP HITTING ANOTHER VEHICLE
HEAD ON. I WAS NOT FORMALLY INFORMED BY TOYOTA OR LEXUS ABOUT THIS BRAKE
RECALL UNTIL MY AUTO INSURANCE CARRIER SENT ME A REPORT VALUING MY VEHICLE
AS IT HAS NOW BECOME A TOTAL LOSS. |
E****a
发帖数: 3088 | 42 色老师，挂N档管用了吧？不用进车载电脑全部一块卡死了吧 |
D***I
发帖数: 1957 | 43 真正的自动加速卡死肯定无效啊
网上视频都有了，你们怎么这么执拗呢
那个yaris还有国内scion的例子都说明了，干什么都无效
只有踩死啥车把速度降低到0然后换到p档利用卡笋卡住才能彻底解决问题
正常爬坡王从d换到r，中间经过n也无效，照样跑
更别说系统卡死的时候了
【在 E****a 的大作中提到】
: 色老师，挂N档管用了吧？不用进车载电脑全部一块卡死了吧
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E****a
发帖数: 3088 | 44 系统卡死，不死不行。色老师说了算
：真正的自动加速卡死肯定无效啊
：网上视频都有了，你们怎么这么执拗呢 |
D***I
发帖数: 1957 | 45 除非有足够空间，yaris和scion还有最近的mb如果是真的，都能活下来
其他的肯定都死光了
判断是否真的卡死的唯一标准是发动机一直最大油门，yaris那个就是个最明显的例子
，换到p档油门依然在嘶吼，直到脱肛才停下来
如果换了空档，发动机转速也降低了，那就不是真的卡死了
【在 E****a 的大作中提到】
: 系统卡死，不死不行。色老师说了算
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: ：真正的自动加速卡死肯定无效啊
: ：网上视频都有了，你们怎么这么执拗呢
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E****a
发帖数: 3088 | 46 哦。空档还是管用的，就是可能木有空间(时间？)。色老师是这意思吧
：除非有足够空间，yaris和scion还有最近的mb如果是真的，都能活下来
：其他的肯定都死光了 |
D***I
发帖数: 1957 | 47 你的理解能力真是醉人
难怪认为1万多个变量的丰田垃圾和别家功能上完全一样
主动替丰田洗地
我说的很明白，非卡死情况下换空档肯定有效
卡死的情况下无效
【在 E****a 的大作中提到】
: 哦。空档还是管用的，就是可能木有空间(时间？)。色老师是这意思吧
:
: ：除非有足够空间，yaris和scion还有最近的mb如果是真的，都能活下来
: ：其他的肯定都死光了
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E****a
发帖数: 3088 | 48 你的意思是不卡死不行，工程师非要按卡死设计才行，是吧
：你的理解能力真是醉人
：我说的很明白，非卡死情况下换空档肯定有效 |
D***I
发帖数: 1957 | 49 yaris你这就是死搅蛮缠，满地打滚了，系统卡死是极端意外，就像windows 蓝屏一样
，丰田之前没有刹车是爷系统，油门优先权比刹车高，所以才一下子暴露出来这么多问
题。自动加速召回以后，丰田在软件层面上搞了个监测狗，多多少少能够实现刹车优先
，而且能够重启系统。所以现在自动加速不像以前那么多了，但是依然有严重卡死的时
候导致检测失败，是否能重启系统那就只能祈祷上帝了
丰田工程师如何设计管我屁事，尼玛1万多个全局变量的垃圾依然在用智能说丰田视用
户为草芥，对汽车这种东西，当然要预见到极端情况下系统要如何处理。
丰田垃圾系统卡死所有操作都无效这是有例证的
国内的scion的报道很多，随便查下就知道卡死状态下所有操作都不会有反应，这一点
和windows蓝屏很类似。
“后来我们又让司机挂空挡或者是将车子直接熄火，这样的方法同样失效。”范警官说
，“在我跟了一段时间后，这辆车的时速从130公里降低到了105公里左右，我以为车子
开始慢慢恢复控制了。”
但结果让范警官失望，经过一段时间的相对低速行驶后，车子突然又加速到了原来的速
度。
“此时，车子恰好经过海盐互通，当时他的车开到了第三车道和硬路肩之间，眼看就要
往匝道里面行驶。”范警官说，“以这样的速度驶入匝道，后果很难想象，当时我就通
过喊话器让他回到杭浦主线上。”
事后，范警官才得知，当时司机为了减慢车速，一直在轻拉手刹，但手刹拉久之后，车
辆内部电脑系统发出了“滴滴滴”的警报声，司机担心车辆会出现其他异常情况，所以
又松了手刹。一路上，司机就这样，拉着手刹，一会儿松一会儿紧，“我们能想象，当
时司机肯定是紧张得不行。”
【在 E****a 的大作中提到】
: 你的意思是不卡死不行，工程师非要按卡死设计才行，是吧
:
: ：你的理解能力真是醉人
: ：我说的很明白，非卡死情况下换空档肯定有效
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E****a
发帖数: 3088 | |
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r***i
发帖数: 9780 | 51 刚看了下2018 rav4 刹车失灵也有了
2017 rav4也有10个complaint了
刹车踏板被踩到地板上，但是完全无效
I WAS DRIVING IN A FAST FOOD DRIVE THROUGH. IT WAS A STOP AND GO PACE
BECAUSE THERE WERE AROUND 5 CARS BEFORE ME AND WAS TRAVELING APPROX 3 MPH. I
BEGAN TO PROCEED BUT THIS TIME AS I WENT TO APPLY MY BRAKES THEY WENT TO
THE FLOOR AND I COULDN'T STOP THE CAR. IN ORDER TO AVOID THE CAR IN FRONT OF
ME I TURNED MY WHEEL TO THE RIGHT AND JUMPED THE CURB AND HIT A WALL. THE
VEHICLE WAS 3 DAYS OLD. |
r***i
发帖数: 9780 | 52 2017 camry 3个自动加速，2个刹车失灵
2018 camry，自动加速和刹车失灵各一个
I LEASED A LOW END CAMRY 6 MONTHS AGO. SINCE THEN I HAVE EXPERIENCED THE
FOLLOWING PROBLEM ABOUT 20 TIMES. WHEN SLOWING TO A STOP USUALLY ON A SLIGHT
UPGRADE THE ENGINE RPMS INCREASE FROM THE 600 VALUE AT IDLE TO ABOUT 2200.
THIS OCCURS IN A SPEED RANGE OF 0 TO 5 MPH. FORTUNATELY I HAVE MY FOOT ON
THE BRAKE WHEN IT HAS HAPPENED AND GENERALLY AM NOT CLOSE TO THE CAR IN
FRONT OF ME SO I AM ABLE TO HOLD THE CAR WITH THE FOOT BRAKE BUT GENERALLY
NEED TO SHUT DOWN THE ENGINE TO ELIMINATE THE HIGH RPM AND WHEN RESTARTING
ALL IS BACK TO NORMAL. I HAVE HAD THE CAR AT THE DEALERS 3 TIMES AND ALL IS
"WELL" BASED ON THE COMPUTER DIAGNOSTICS. I SUSPECT A SOFTWARE PROBLEM IN
THE COMPUTER BUT THAT FALLS ON DEAF EARS.
VEHICLE GAS THROTTLE RESPONSE WOULD HESITATE WOULD BE A LAG OF FEW SECONDS
FOR VEHICLE TO PICK UP SPEED SLOW THROTTLE RESPONSE, ALSO I TOTALED MY
VEHICLE DUE BRAKES MALFUNCTION ALSO VEHICLE BRAKE ASSYST DID NOT ASSYST ME
IN ANY WAY OR PREVENTED ME FROM ACCIDENT I WAS TRAVLING 35 TO 55MP |
W***n
发帖数: 11530 | |
b********r
发帖数: 837 | 54 鸭梨屎及其同类会跳舞出来说你忘了疯舔的三大优点之自燃
【在 r***i 的大作中提到】
: 而且是普遍问题，每个车型每年都有
: 最关键的是dealer检查一通，都说没问题，导致用户多次遇到
: 这么严重的问题nhtsa竟然没调查？
: 别家看了看几款都没发现这问题，别人的service brake基本都是手刹问题
: 丰田基本都是踩了刹车刹车无效
: 难怪尼玛路上丰田车前面空最大
: 这要再遇到自动加速祈祷上帝都没用了
: 例如：
: 2015 camry 24个brake 投诉
: WHILE I WAS DRIVING ON FREEWAY AT 65 MPH, THE BRAKE PEDAL WENT DOWN TO THE
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D***I
发帖数: 1957 | 55 我敢肯定来这的肯定有遇到的，上次有个回帖提到了
不知还有多少遇到的 |
D***I
发帖数: 1957 | |
D***I
发帖数: 1957 | |
l*******g
发帖数: 27064 | |
b********r
发帖数: 837 | 59 这个问题疯舔召回解决了吗？
【在 l*******g 的大作中提到】
: up
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D***I
发帖数: 1957 | 60 木有召回，就是刹车踏板踩到底了，车子还在跑
【在 b********r 的大作中提到】
: 这个问题疯舔召回解决了吗？
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