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a******o
发帖数: 16625
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audi 5000自动加速门后来所有调查过的案例无一发现车辆有问题,而归结为司机操纵
失误,但是当时audi几乎被迫退出了美国市场。
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audi_100#Reported_sudden_unintende
Reported sudden unintended acceleration
During model years 1983–1987, Audi's U.S. sales fell after a series of
recalls of Audi 5000 models[27] associated with reported incidents of sudden
unintended acceleration linked to six deaths and 700 accidents.[27] At the
time, National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) was
investigating 50 car models from 20 manufacturers for sudden surges of power
.[28]
In North America, the CBS television broadcast network 60 Minutes news
program aired a report titled Out of Control on November 23, 1986.[29] It
featured interviews with six people who had sued Audi after reporting
unintended acceleration, including footage of an Audi 5000 ostensibly
displaying a surge of acceleration while the brake pedal was depressed.[30][
31][32] Subsequent investigation revealed that 60 Minutes had not disclosed
they had engineered the vehicle's behavior – fitting a canister of
compressed air on the passenger-side floor, to pump fluid via a hose to a
hole drilled into the transmission[29][30] — the arrangement executed by
one of the experts who had testified on behalf of a plaintiff in a then-
pending lawsuit against Audi's parent company.[33]
Audi initially responded by suggesting that the drivers of the cars involved
in the incidents were at fault, because they had stepped on the accelerator
pedal rather than the brake.[28] Subsequently, the National Highway Traffic
Safety Administration (NHTSA) concluded that the majority of unintended
acceleration cases, including all the ones that prompted the 60 Minutes
report, were caused mainly by factors such as confusion of pedals.[34] CBS
acknowledged the report and stressed its findings that “the problem could
be aggravated by vehicle design, the shape, location and feel of gas and
brake pedals."[33] Audi's research demonstrated that many of the drivers who
encountered "unintended acceleration" were "below average in height",
indicating their knowledge of a relationship between design and the
incidents.[35]
In a review study published in 2012, NHTSA summarized its past findings
about the Audi unintended acceleration problems: "Once an unintended
acceleration had begun, in the Audi 5000, due to a failure in the idle-
stabilizer system (producing an initial acceleration of 0.3g), pedal
misapplication resulting from panic, confusion, or unfamiliarity with the
Audi 5000 contributed to the severity of the incident."[36]
This summary is consistent with the conclusions of NHTSA's most technical
analysis at the time: "Audi idle-stabilization systems were prone to defects
which resulted in excessive idle speeds and brief unanticipated
accelerations of up to 0.3g [which is similar in magnitude to an emergency
stop in a subway car]. These accelerations could not be the sole cause of [(
long-duration) sudden acceleration incidents (SAI)], but might have
triggered some SAIs by startling the driver.[37] The defective idle-
stabilization system performed a type of electronic throttle control.
Significantly: multiple "intermittent malfunctions of the electronic control
unit were observed and recorded … and [were also observed and] reported by
Transport Canada."[37]
With the series of recall campaigns, Audi made several modifications; the
first adjusted the distance between the brake and accelerator pedal on
automatic-transmission models.[27] Later repairs of 250,000 cars dating back
to 1978 added a device requiring the driver to press the brake pedal before
shifting out of park.[27] It is unclear what was done regarding the defects
in the idle-stabilization system. Subsequent to the recall campaigns,
vehicles now include gear shift patterns and brake interlock mechanisms to
prevent inadvertent gear selection.
Audi's U.S. sales, which had reached 74,061 in 1985, dropped to 12,283 in
1991 and remained level for three years.[27] – with resale values falling
dramatically.[38] Audi subsequently offered increased warranty protection[38
] and renamed the affected models — with the 5000 becoming the 100 and 200
in 1989.[28] The company only reached the same level of U.S. sales again by
model year 2000.[27]
As of early 2010, a class-action lawsuit — dealing with a charge that on
account of the sudden acceleration controversy, Audi models had lost resale
value[30] — filed in 1987 by about 7,500 Audi Audi 5000-model owners
remains unsettled and is currently contested in county court in Chicago
after appeals at the Illinois state and U.S. federal levels.[39] The NHTSA's
findings have been "small solace for Audi in defense of product liability
actions, as more and more successful cases used Audi's human factor design
errors and failure to warn or recall as a basis for liability."[40]
m****a
发帖数: 2593
2
福特和丰田自动加速导致伤亡的案例其实一样多,都是374 起 (from 2003 through
2009)
这个可是美国交通部的官方数据
It cites a 2011 report by the Transportation Department's inspector general
that showed Ford had the same number of deaths and injuries from these
electronic throttle controls as Toyota: 374 from 2003 through 2009. Ford had
22% of all complaints of unintended acceleration during that period, more
than any of the other major auto manufacturers, the report said.
为什么丰田就被整的灰头土脸呢?答案是呵呵了

sudden
the
power

【在 a******o 的大作中提到】
: audi 5000自动加速门后来所有调查过的案例无一发现车辆有问题,而归结为司机操纵
: 失误,但是当时audi几乎被迫退出了美国市场。
: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audi_100#Reported_sudden_unintende
: Reported sudden unintended acceleration
: During model years 1983–1987, Audi's U.S. sales fell after a series of
: recalls of Audi 5000 models[27] associated with reported incidents of sudden
: unintended acceleration linked to six deaths and 700 accidents.[27] At the
: time, National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) was
: investigating 50 car models from 20 manufacturers for sudden surges of power
: .[28]

b*****1
发帖数: 3915
3
要让更多的人知道真相

sudden
the
power

【在 a******o 的大作中提到】
: audi 5000自动加速门后来所有调查过的案例无一发现车辆有问题,而归结为司机操纵
: 失误,但是当时audi几乎被迫退出了美国市场。
: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audi_100#Reported_sudden_unintende
: Reported sudden unintended acceleration
: During model years 1983–1987, Audi's U.S. sales fell after a series of
: recalls of Audi 5000 models[27] associated with reported incidents of sudden
: unintended acceleration linked to six deaths and 700 accidents.[27] At the
: time, National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) was
: investigating 50 car models from 20 manufacturers for sudden surges of power
: .[28]

a***e
发帖数: 27968
4
这个大家都知道吧,然后人民车就加进那个刹车override,这个东西成了电控车标配。
但是丰田后来使用电控居然没这个override,结果出人命了,轮胎烧着撞向十字路口。
说不过去

sudden

【在 a******o 的大作中提到】
: audi 5000自动加速门后来所有调查过的案例无一发现车辆有问题,而归结为司机操纵
: 失误,但是当时audi几乎被迫退出了美国市场。
: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audi_100#Reported_sudden_unintende
: Reported sudden unintended acceleration
: During model years 1983–1987, Audi's U.S. sales fell after a series of
: recalls of Audi 5000 models[27] associated with reported incidents of sudden
: unintended acceleration linked to six deaths and 700 accidents.[27] At the
: time, National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) was
: investigating 50 car models from 20 manufacturers for sudden surges of power
: .[28]

i********e
发帖数: 1782
5
刹车是爷系统在其他车上都是标配,丰田车至今还是纸牌屋安全系统,基本上开了丰田
车命就不属于自己的了。

【在 a***e 的大作中提到】
: 这个大家都知道吧,然后人民车就加进那个刹车override,这个东西成了电控车标配。
: 但是丰田后来使用电控居然没这个override,结果出人命了,轮胎烧着撞向十字路口。
: 说不过去
:
: sudden

f******w
发帖数: 420
6
貌似一二年以后是标配

【在 i********e 的大作中提到】
: 刹车是爷系统在其他车上都是标配,丰田车至今还是纸牌屋安全系统,基本上开了丰田
: 车命就不属于自己的了。

T*********s
发帖数: 20444
7
大众也就那样了
有没有安全隐患都是个五流品牌
听说现在市场占有率连马自达都不如了

sudden
the
power

【在 a******o 的大作中提到】
: audi 5000自动加速门后来所有调查过的案例无一发现车辆有问题,而归结为司机操纵
: 失误,但是当时audi几乎被迫退出了美国市场。
: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audi_100#Reported_sudden_unintende
: Reported sudden unintended acceleration
: During model years 1983–1987, Audi's U.S. sales fell after a series of
: recalls of Audi 5000 models[27] associated with reported incidents of sudden
: unintended acceleration linked to six deaths and 700 accidents.[27] At the
: time, National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) was
: investigating 50 car models from 20 manufacturers for sudden surges of power
: .[28]

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