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Automobile版 - Very disappointed in my 2012 MB ML 350
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相关话题的讨论汇总
话题: mb话题: engine话题: problem话题: do话题: noise
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l***x
发帖数: 631
1
bought in Oct 2011. brand new, of course.
1. felt driver seat click in first few weeks. dealer checked twice, said no
problem.identified the problem at 3rd time and fixed.
2. error message on panel: l front airbag dysfunction.... was told no
problem. reseted.
3. heard slight noise from engine when sitting on driver seat. sounds like
normal engine noise, but did not hear it in the past. MB tech checked,
identified it is abnormal noise from inside of engine. needs further
investigation.
I told the service manager that I'd rather to have the engine replaced than
fixed if it is engine problem. Do you think if my request is reasonable? It
is a 1 year old mercedes.
can't believe this.
f******t
发帖数: 7283
2
#1, #2 - 电子器件稳定性方面MB并不太擅长,我租过几次MB的车子,没有一辆是完全
没问题的;
#3 - MB这个V6发动机跟Chrysler的那个Pentastar V6是互为马甲的关系(两家一起开
发的);克莱斯勒的产品不能强求在NVH方面有太多考虑。

no
than

【在 l***x 的大作中提到】
: bought in Oct 2011. brand new, of course.
: 1. felt driver seat click in first few weeks. dealer checked twice, said no
: problem.identified the problem at 3rd time and fixed.
: 2. error message on panel: l front airbag dysfunction.... was told no
: problem. reseted.
: 3. heard slight noise from engine when sitting on driver seat. sounds like
: normal engine noise, but did not hear it in the past. MB tech checked,
: identified it is abnormal noise from inside of engine. needs further
: investigation.
: I told the service manager that I'd rather to have the engine replaced than

T*U
发帖数: 22634
3
not reasonable.
A***n
发帖数: 8859
4
icefox快来攻击楼主没有主语,文法不清。
p****e
发帖数: 3548
5
#3, dealer保修的话,你没选择权吧

no
than

【在 l***x 的大作中提到】
: bought in Oct 2011. brand new, of course.
: 1. felt driver seat click in first few weeks. dealer checked twice, said no
: problem.identified the problem at 3rd time and fixed.
: 2. error message on panel: l front airbag dysfunction.... was told no
: problem. reseted.
: 3. heard slight noise from engine when sitting on driver seat. sounds like
: normal engine noise, but did not hear it in the past. MB tech checked,
: identified it is abnormal noise from inside of engine. needs further
: investigation.
: I told the service manager that I'd rather to have the engine replaced than

a******o
发帖数: 16625
6
M和C系列好像一直是benz问题最多的。
H*****L
发帖数: 5705
7
I don't think they will replace whatever you ask, but they have to figure
out the root cause.
If you believe that dealer is stupid, try another one.

no
than

【在 l***x 的大作中提到】
: bought in Oct 2011. brand new, of course.
: 1. felt driver seat click in first few weeks. dealer checked twice, said no
: problem.identified the problem at 3rd time and fixed.
: 2. error message on panel: l front airbag dysfunction.... was told no
: problem. reseted.
: 3. heard slight noise from engine when sitting on driver seat. sounds like
: normal engine noise, but did not hear it in the past. MB tech checked,
: identified it is abnormal noise from inside of engine. needs further
: investigation.
: I told the service manager that I'd rather to have the engine replaced than

k********e
发帖数: 2844
8
really????? my order will be delivered in dec. now debating~

no
than

【在 l***x 的大作中提到】
: bought in Oct 2011. brand new, of course.
: 1. felt driver seat click in first few weeks. dealer checked twice, said no
: problem.identified the problem at 3rd time and fixed.
: 2. error message on panel: l front airbag dysfunction.... was told no
: problem. reseted.
: 3. heard slight noise from engine when sitting on driver seat. sounds like
: normal engine noise, but did not hear it in the past. MB tech checked,
: identified it is abnormal noise from inside of engine. needs further
: investigation.
: I told the service manager that I'd rather to have the engine replaced than

p******8
发帖数: 227
9
买车也得看手气,虽然一个装配线出来的,但是质量有区别也是正常。不是损楼主,真
是这样的,不但是车,啥电子东西都差不多。一年就出这些问题,你赶紧找dealer吧。
这仅是个个案。
l***x
发帖数: 631
10
thanks, guys.
I feel it is mb problem,not dealer problem. could be original defect?
MB tech (not dealer tech) involved.
will update status here soon.
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学生求助:二手车刚买2月,损失5000,怎么办?刚来新生不了解行情 第一次在dealer买车被忽悠交了押金,还能要回来吗?
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i****x
发帖数: 17565
11
脑子有病就去治吧

【在 A***n 的大作中提到】
: icefox快来攻击楼主没有主语,文法不清。
f******t
发帖数: 7283
12
这个版上有个ID叫“theislander3”,是MB专家,想必他可能也遇到过类似问题,有相
关经验。但可惜的是每当出问题的时候,他总是装作没看见,选择性失明了。

no
than

【在 l***x 的大作中提到】
: bought in Oct 2011. brand new, of course.
: 1. felt driver seat click in first few weeks. dealer checked twice, said no
: problem.identified the problem at 3rd time and fixed.
: 2. error message on panel: l front airbag dysfunction.... was told no
: problem. reseted.
: 3. heard slight noise from engine when sitting on driver seat. sounds like
: normal engine noise, but did not hear it in the past. MB tech checked,
: identified it is abnormal noise from inside of engine. needs further
: investigation.
: I told the service manager that I'd rather to have the engine replaced than

l***x
发帖数: 631
13
update:
I just got call from MB service manager who stated there is a part inside
the engine need to be replaced and updated. A mb tech with 20 year
experience will fix it. it is guarrented that the car will not have this
problem anymore after repair. they will not replace the engine. the
manager also said he would ask mb to pay one month payment of my car loan($
950). the car will be ready next wed.
please comment. Do I have to accept the offer? or keep fighting?
s*****g
发帖数: 3693
14
看看能不能让他们给个引擎的延长warranty
"it is guarrented that the car will not have this problem anymore after
repair."
要不然谁来guarrent

【在 l***x 的大作中提到】
: update:
: I just got call from MB service manager who stated there is a part inside
: the engine need to be replaced and updated. A mb tech with 20 year
: experience will fix it. it is guarrented that the car will not have this
: problem anymore after repair. they will not replace the engine. the
: manager also said he would ask mb to pay one month payment of my car loan($
: 950). the car will be ready next wed.
: please comment. Do I have to accept the offer? or keep fighting?

H*****L
发帖数: 5705
15
try get ext powertrain warranty, and one month pay
never accept the 1st offer.

【在 l***x 的大作中提到】
: update:
: I just got call from MB service manager who stated there is a part inside
: the engine need to be replaced and updated. A mb tech with 20 year
: experience will fix it. it is guarrented that the car will not have this
: problem anymore after repair. they will not replace the engine. the
: manager also said he would ask mb to pay one month payment of my car loan($
: 950). the car will be ready next wed.
: please comment. Do I have to accept the offer? or keep fighting?

f****t
发帖数: 15913
16
Your car still has a lot of time before warranty expires. Do not worry.
You can ask for something that is almost free for MB (such as free extension
of warranty).
When the transmission of an odyssey is toasted, honda will replace it with a
REFURBISHED one under warranty. So you are in better shape than many
odyssey owners.

【在 l***x 的大作中提到】
: update:
: I just got call from MB service manager who stated there is a part inside
: the engine need to be replaced and updated. A mb tech with 20 year
: experience will fix it. it is guarrented that the car will not have this
: problem anymore after repair. they will not replace the engine. the
: manager also said he would ask mb to pay one month payment of my car loan($
: 950). the car will be ready next wed.
: please comment. Do I have to accept the offer? or keep fighting?

a******n
发帖数: 1714
17
建议让他们延长保修期限,这个比退车更容易实现。比如延长半年,一年的。
MB的维修技师分SA和SP(没记错术语的话),如果是大牛SA还是可以信的。

【在 l***x 的大作中提到】
: update:
: I just got call from MB service manager who stated there is a part inside
: the engine need to be replaced and updated. A mb tech with 20 year
: experience will fix it. it is guarrented that the car will not have this
: problem anymore after repair. they will not replace the engine. the
: manager also said he would ask mb to pay one month payment of my car loan($
: 950). the car will be ready next wed.
: please comment. Do I have to accept the offer? or keep fighting?

f******t
发帖数: 7283
18
说老实话,发动机这东西假如是大拆的话,就很难重新装配到原厂那样的精度了。

【在 l***x 的大作中提到】
: update:
: I just got call from MB service manager who stated there is a part inside
: the engine need to be replaced and updated. A mb tech with 20 year
: experience will fix it. it is guarrented that the car will not have this
: problem anymore after repair. they will not replace the engine. the
: manager also said he would ask mb to pay one month payment of my car loan($
: 950). the car will be ready next wed.
: please comment. Do I have to accept the offer? or keep fighting?

q**j
发帖数: 10612
19
You do not have the power to bargain. Just take whatever they offer and
maybe ask for some little things. ML is worst of the worst. You got what you
paid for.

【在 l***x 的大作中提到】
: update:
: I just got call from MB service manager who stated there is a part inside
: the engine need to be replaced and updated. A mb tech with 20 year
: experience will fix it. it is guarrented that the car will not have this
: problem anymore after repair. they will not replace the engine. the
: manager also said he would ask mb to pay one month payment of my car loan($
: 950). the car will be ready next wed.
: please comment. Do I have to accept the offer? or keep fighting?

K******e
发帖数: 367
20
If problem resists, ask your original dealer to take it back as a lemon.
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空调控制卡住,只有一个风速了,整个换新的很贵啊Jeep Wrangle Unlimited 2011 怎么样?
不着急买minivan的可以等新的T&C现在是不是没人买Jeep了?
想问下矮个子的女生开jeep wangler sport怎么样南加地区有人拿到VW Routan Minivan 10k off MSRP 价格吗?
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l***x
发帖数: 631
21
correct answer. just studying lemon law.
h******e
发帖数: 73
22
同样的问题如果3次都修不好,可以用 lemon law 要求退车或换车。个人觉得MB的
offer已经不错了。

【在 l***x 的大作中提到】
: update:
: I just got call from MB service manager who stated there is a part inside
: the engine need to be replaced and updated. A mb tech with 20 year
: experience will fix it. it is guarrented that the car will not have this
: problem anymore after repair. they will not replace the engine. the
: manager also said he would ask mb to pay one month payment of my car loan($
: 950). the car will be ready next wed.
: please comment. Do I have to accept the offer? or keep fighting?

M********2
发帖数: 940
23
钓丝车啊。
b*******l
发帖数: 1095
24
很难相信一年的引擎会出毛病。。。。
l***x
发帖数: 631
25
bought in Oct 2011. brand new, of course.
1. felt driver seat click in first few weeks. dealer checked twice, said no
problem.identified the problem at 3rd time and fixed.
2. error message on panel: l front airbag dysfunction.... was told no
problem. reseted.
3. heard slight noise from engine when sitting on driver seat. sounds like
normal engine noise, but did not hear it in the past. MB tech checked,
identified it is abnormal noise from inside of engine. needs further
investigation.
I told the service manager that I'd rather to have the engine replaced than
fixed if it is engine problem. Do you think if my request is reasonable? It
is a 1 year old mercedes.
can't believe this.
f******t
发帖数: 7283
26
#1, #2 - 电子器件稳定性方面MB并不太擅长,我租过几次MB的车子,没有一辆是完全
没问题的;
#3 - MB这个V6发动机跟Chrysler的那个Pentastar V6是互为马甲的关系(两家一起开
发的);克莱斯勒的产品不能强求在NVH方面有太多考虑。

no
than

【在 l***x 的大作中提到】
: bought in Oct 2011. brand new, of course.
: 1. felt driver seat click in first few weeks. dealer checked twice, said no
: problem.identified the problem at 3rd time and fixed.
: 2. error message on panel: l front airbag dysfunction.... was told no
: problem. reseted.
: 3. heard slight noise from engine when sitting on driver seat. sounds like
: normal engine noise, but did not hear it in the past. MB tech checked,
: identified it is abnormal noise from inside of engine. needs further
: investigation.
: I told the service manager that I'd rather to have the engine replaced than

T*U
发帖数: 22634
27
not reasonable.
A***n
发帖数: 8859
28
icefox快来攻击楼主没有主语,文法不清。
p****e
发帖数: 3548
29
#3, dealer保修的话,你没选择权吧

no
than

【在 l***x 的大作中提到】
: bought in Oct 2011. brand new, of course.
: 1. felt driver seat click in first few weeks. dealer checked twice, said no
: problem.identified the problem at 3rd time and fixed.
: 2. error message on panel: l front airbag dysfunction.... was told no
: problem. reseted.
: 3. heard slight noise from engine when sitting on driver seat. sounds like
: normal engine noise, but did not hear it in the past. MB tech checked,
: identified it is abnormal noise from inside of engine. needs further
: investigation.
: I told the service manager that I'd rather to have the engine replaced than

a******o
发帖数: 16625
30
M和C系列好像一直是benz问题最多的。
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开了Pentastar V6版的Chrysler 200性价比最高的7座SUV
2012 Ward's 10Best Engines市场化不是灵丹妙药,美国应该学习日本的医疗体制 (转载)
toyota 4 runner limited or jeep GC limited买了一年半不到的新BMW X5 居然 engine 坏了
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H*****L
发帖数: 5705
31
I don't think they will replace whatever you ask, but they have to figure
out the root cause.
If you believe that dealer is stupid, try another one.

no
than

【在 l***x 的大作中提到】
: bought in Oct 2011. brand new, of course.
: 1. felt driver seat click in first few weeks. dealer checked twice, said no
: problem.identified the problem at 3rd time and fixed.
: 2. error message on panel: l front airbag dysfunction.... was told no
: problem. reseted.
: 3. heard slight noise from engine when sitting on driver seat. sounds like
: normal engine noise, but did not hear it in the past. MB tech checked,
: identified it is abnormal noise from inside of engine. needs further
: investigation.
: I told the service manager that I'd rather to have the engine replaced than

k********e
发帖数: 2844
32
really????? my order will be delivered in dec. now debating~

no
than

【在 l***x 的大作中提到】
: bought in Oct 2011. brand new, of course.
: 1. felt driver seat click in first few weeks. dealer checked twice, said no
: problem.identified the problem at 3rd time and fixed.
: 2. error message on panel: l front airbag dysfunction.... was told no
: problem. reseted.
: 3. heard slight noise from engine when sitting on driver seat. sounds like
: normal engine noise, but did not hear it in the past. MB tech checked,
: identified it is abnormal noise from inside of engine. needs further
: investigation.
: I told the service manager that I'd rather to have the engine replaced than

p******8
发帖数: 227
33
买车也得看手气,虽然一个装配线出来的,但是质量有区别也是正常。不是损楼主,真
是这样的,不但是车,啥电子东西都差不多。一年就出这些问题,你赶紧找dealer吧。
这仅是个个案。
l***x
发帖数: 631
34
thanks, guys.
I feel it is mb problem,not dealer problem. could be original defect?
MB tech (not dealer tech) involved.
will update status here soon.
i****x
发帖数: 17565
35
脑子有病就去治吧

【在 A***n 的大作中提到】
: icefox快来攻击楼主没有主语,文法不清。
f******t
发帖数: 7283
36
这个版上有个ID叫“theislander3”,是MB专家,想必他可能也遇到过类似问题,有相
关经验。但可惜的是每当出问题的时候,他总是装作没看见,选择性失明了。

no
than

【在 l***x 的大作中提到】
: bought in Oct 2011. brand new, of course.
: 1. felt driver seat click in first few weeks. dealer checked twice, said no
: problem.identified the problem at 3rd time and fixed.
: 2. error message on panel: l front airbag dysfunction.... was told no
: problem. reseted.
: 3. heard slight noise from engine when sitting on driver seat. sounds like
: normal engine noise, but did not hear it in the past. MB tech checked,
: identified it is abnormal noise from inside of engine. needs further
: investigation.
: I told the service manager that I'd rather to have the engine replaced than

l***x
发帖数: 631
37
update:
I just got call from MB service manager who stated there is a part inside
the engine need to be replaced and updated. A mb tech with 20 year
experience will fix it. it is guarrented that the car will not have this
problem anymore after repair. they will not replace the engine. the
manager also said he would ask mb to pay one month payment of my car loan($
950). the car will be ready next wed.
please comment. Do I have to accept the offer? or keep fighting?
s*****g
发帖数: 3693
38
看看能不能让他们给个引擎的延长warranty
"it is guarrented that the car will not have this problem anymore after
repair."
要不然谁来guarrent

【在 l***x 的大作中提到】
: update:
: I just got call from MB service manager who stated there is a part inside
: the engine need to be replaced and updated. A mb tech with 20 year
: experience will fix it. it is guarrented that the car will not have this
: problem anymore after repair. they will not replace the engine. the
: manager also said he would ask mb to pay one month payment of my car loan($
: 950). the car will be ready next wed.
: please comment. Do I have to accept the offer? or keep fighting?

H*****L
发帖数: 5705
39
try get ext powertrain warranty, and one month pay
never accept the 1st offer.

【在 l***x 的大作中提到】
: update:
: I just got call from MB service manager who stated there is a part inside
: the engine need to be replaced and updated. A mb tech with 20 year
: experience will fix it. it is guarrented that the car will not have this
: problem anymore after repair. they will not replace the engine. the
: manager also said he would ask mb to pay one month payment of my car loan($
: 950). the car will be ready next wed.
: please comment. Do I have to accept the offer? or keep fighting?

f****t
发帖数: 15913
40
Your car still has a lot of time before warranty expires. Do not worry.
You can ask for something that is almost free for MB (such as free extension
of warranty).
When the transmission of an odyssey is toasted, honda will replace it with a
REFURBISHED one under warranty. So you are in better shape than many
odyssey owners.

【在 l***x 的大作中提到】
: update:
: I just got call from MB service manager who stated there is a part inside
: the engine need to be replaced and updated. A mb tech with 20 year
: experience will fix it. it is guarrented that the car will not have this
: problem anymore after repair. they will not replace the engine. the
: manager also said he would ask mb to pay one month payment of my car loan($
: 950). the car will be ready next wed.
: please comment. Do I have to accept the offer? or keep fighting?

相关主题
买了一年半不到的新BMW X5 居然 engine 坏了新买的corolla能去dealer那儿给退了吗
JEEP dealership 修不好的胎压监测学生求助:二手车刚买2月,损失5000,怎么办?
又修了一个window regulator【求拍砖】朋友从一dealer处买了二手车,似乎被骗了
进入Automobile版参与讨论
a******n
发帖数: 1714
41
建议让他们延长保修期限,这个比退车更容易实现。比如延长半年,一年的。
MB的维修技师分SA和SP(没记错术语的话),如果是大牛SA还是可以信的。

【在 l***x 的大作中提到】
: update:
: I just got call from MB service manager who stated there is a part inside
: the engine need to be replaced and updated. A mb tech with 20 year
: experience will fix it. it is guarrented that the car will not have this
: problem anymore after repair. they will not replace the engine. the
: manager also said he would ask mb to pay one month payment of my car loan($
: 950). the car will be ready next wed.
: please comment. Do I have to accept the offer? or keep fighting?

f******t
发帖数: 7283
42
说老实话,发动机这东西假如是大拆的话,就很难重新装配到原厂那样的精度了。

【在 l***x 的大作中提到】
: update:
: I just got call from MB service manager who stated there is a part inside
: the engine need to be replaced and updated. A mb tech with 20 year
: experience will fix it. it is guarrented that the car will not have this
: problem anymore after repair. they will not replace the engine. the
: manager also said he would ask mb to pay one month payment of my car loan($
: 950). the car will be ready next wed.
: please comment. Do I have to accept the offer? or keep fighting?

q**j
发帖数: 10612
43
You do not have the power to bargain. Just take whatever they offer and
maybe ask for some little things. ML is worst of the worst. You got what you
paid for.

【在 l***x 的大作中提到】
: update:
: I just got call from MB service manager who stated there is a part inside
: the engine need to be replaced and updated. A mb tech with 20 year
: experience will fix it. it is guarrented that the car will not have this
: problem anymore after repair. they will not replace the engine. the
: manager also said he would ask mb to pay one month payment of my car loan($
: 950). the car will be ready next wed.
: please comment. Do I have to accept the offer? or keep fighting?

K******e
发帖数: 367
44
If problem resists, ask your original dealer to take it back as a lemon.
l***x
发帖数: 631
45
correct answer. just studying lemon law.
h******e
发帖数: 73
46
同样的问题如果3次都修不好,可以用 lemon law 要求退车或换车。个人觉得MB的
offer已经不错了。

【在 l***x 的大作中提到】
: update:
: I just got call from MB service manager who stated there is a part inside
: the engine need to be replaced and updated. A mb tech with 20 year
: experience will fix it. it is guarrented that the car will not have this
: problem anymore after repair. they will not replace the engine. the
: manager also said he would ask mb to pay one month payment of my car loan($
: 950). the car will be ready next wed.
: please comment. Do I have to accept the offer? or keep fighting?

M********2
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钓丝车啊。
b*******l
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很难相信一年的引擎会出毛病。。。。
p******8
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还是你买了他们家的车啊,上百年的口碑,不是糊弄的,这个offer说得过去,就看你
自己意见了哈。再要加个extension必须的,或者想换车也行,估计问题不大。
不管那些个德黑怎么上窜下跳,条件好了,照样选择它。
l***x
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update:
the car fixed. was told one screw in the engine needs to be updated.
a mb tech with over 20 yr experience fixed it. I can hear the noise but much
lighter. not sure if it is normal. I have very sensitive ears.
Other cars may have similar issue, but no recall yet.
Seems they are very confident for this repair.
Case settled: they paid me one month car loan ($950), plus one year
extended warrenty. they do not offer any powertrain warrenty.
If the problem persists, will go Lemon!
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f******t
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总结一下:要想买新车用的省心的,最佳选择就是有口皆碑耐用的那几个牌子。
之所以相当一部分买过MB新车的人下一次换新车的时候都不选MB,是有原因的。
G*****m
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BMW是不是也不咋地?
好像很多人买了BMW后也再也不买了...

【在 f******t 的大作中提到】
: 总结一下:要想买新车用的省心的,最佳选择就是有口皆碑耐用的那几个牌子。
: 之所以相当一部分买过MB新车的人下一次换新车的时候都不选MB,是有原因的。

d*******s
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