J********9
发帖数: 36508 | 1 你没看扣篮之后 8ns下来之前 kobe的那一个动作 |
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p****c
发帖数: 8062 | 3 lol...不过我脚着阿泰打8NS还真不一定有胜算。。武圣还差不多 |
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n****e
发帖数: 4990 | 4 would you elbow or knee on Shane Bateer? |
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K******l
发帖数: 2501 | 5 maybe, I feel Artest is getting soft, lol |
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j**y
发帖数: 7014 | 8 But, with and without ball matters! |
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E*******1
发帖数: 3464 | 9 You mean if he wanna protect the ball, hurting others is not a big deal? The
point should be whether he is on purpose, right? They know elbow will hurt
others, but they do, so there is no difference. |
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h****a
发帖数: 5058 | 10 为啥替可比死撑的就几个穿马甲的尼？
不是内有马甲识别服务马？
我倒是想看看这几个都是什么货色。呵呵 |
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j**y
发帖数: 7014 | 11 I think using elbow to protect the ball is still under the rule, just like using the body to get position. I do not think Uncle-Mu is the only one of doing
this, Barkeley, Duncan, and others all did that.
But without ball, using your elbow to hit ppl is simply dirty play. And if
the player does it repeatly, he is a dirty and disgusting player.
That is my point.
The
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E*******1
发帖数: 3464 | 12 Yeah, if he put his elbow that way with no move, that is the different story
, but you know he waved it all the way around.No rule will allow this.
Actually, it is much more dangeous than a straight hit, isn't it?
I don't like elbow in basketball and I cannot tell the difference between
these two elbows because obviously they use it on purpose and full of danger |
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h****a
发帖数: 5058 | 13 what is your point?
你认为因为有别人更脏，所以可比脏没什么？
承认他打球脏就完了，哪那么多废话。
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j**y
发帖数: 7014 | 14
story
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~凭啥不能动？
～～～～～～～～～～～～～～～～～～～～～～～～～～～～～～～～～～哪里
规定
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p*********e
发帖数: 32207 | 15 在nba official rule 09-10里面搜"swinging of elbows"的结果:
"
RULE NO. 6—PUTTING BALL IN PLAY—LIVE/DEAD BALL
Section I—Start of Games/Periods and Others
...
g. On the following infractions, the ball shall be awarded to the opposing
team on the
sideline at the nearest spot but no nearer to the baseline than the free
throw line extended:
(1) Traveling
(2) Dribbling violations
(3) Striking or kicking the ball on any situation except a throw-in
(4) Swinging of elbows
(5) 24-second violation
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Section X—Sw |
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d********u
发帖数: 5383 | 16 理解，原来是阿泰的错。怎么能认KB这个女人来承担呢？
不知道你们CA那个换妻的事该怪谁。 |
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j**y
发帖数: 7014 | 17 swing the elbow咋定义
如果防守的瞎吧啦也不能动吗？ |
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j**y
发帖数: 7014 | 18 我看duncan，barkeley拿着球，把两个elbow抬起来的次数很多呀
然后左右摇晃身体，不让对方靠近
难道这样也算犯规吗？ |
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p*********e
发帖数: 32207 | 19 这个我就不知道了.按规则字面理解的话就是如果swing是extensive并且vigorous的
那就是违例.
另外这里面的swing of elbow还是即便没有跟防守队员有接触都算犯规的
如果产生illegal contact那就是按正常的personal foul来处理 |
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j**y
发帖数: 7014 | 20 这规矩不会是针对穆大叔，TD他们定的吧
barkeley那阵肯定是没有的，否则it每场都够6 foul了 |
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k**y
发帖数: 920 | 21 kb联盟第一贱人啊
巴恩斯发球时候把球往kb脸上发的那个假动作，怎么判罚的？ |
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l**k
发帖数: 45267 | 22 not always
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l**k
发帖数: 45267 | 23 而且这纯属跑题。我可没说kb是个nice人，他要是nice的话现在撑死也就是君子雷的成
就吧。只是日车同学的逻辑有点错乱而已：
A不nice，因为在场上用了肘子
B很nice，因为在场下做慈善事业
到底用场上还是场下做标准啊？另外这两句话里A和B是可以互换的，只不过A无论是比
肘子还是比慈善事业都比不过B而已 |
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c******q
发帖数: 2995 | 24 sign....很久以前就不喜欢科比了.... |
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p*********e
发帖数: 32207 | 25 这个我就不清楚了,因为我没看过九几年的nba rule book:) |
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o**********a
发帖数: 330 | 28 不会。把敌而 防守挺干净的
但是我真不觉得把敌而防守多出色，可能是网上大家炒作得，把敌而为人挺不错，如果
把nba看成一个职业得话，把敌而算是比较会工作得哪类人，个人观念
另外，防守不错得，我感觉乔丹和可比都不错。 |
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h****a
发帖数: 5058 | 29 Are U kidding me?
如果你认为把第二防守不出色，那你又认为以他的进攻能力凭什么当首发？
比起可比仗着贝贝哨，就会乱抓乱挠的防守，根本就不是一个档次的。 |
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p*********e
发帖数: 32207 | 30 battier是脑子弥补身体的典范
他预判能力特别强,判断能力也很好,不容易吃晃
再加上虽然运动能力不出色,身高体重臂长上防2/3号位能弥补一些
加起来防守效果就很好了 |
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p*a
发帖数: 3350 | 31 巴蒂防守好是因为人长的帅，个唱得好。敌人不忍伤害他
如果 |
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T***c
发帖数: 17256 | 35 re
我早就说了，篮球运动的终极形态，就是帅哥无敌论
丑鬼没前途的 |
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E*******1
发帖数: 3464 | 37 Did I ever say it is not dirty? Did I ever say because A is like this, so B
could do the same thing? It is your ridiculous logic.
I said this two kinds of elbow have no difference, using elbow with no move
to protect the ball should be okay, but waving it to protect the ball is
definitely unnecessary and dangerous. This is my point. If you cannot
understand such an easy reason, please shut up |
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h****a
发帖数: 5058 | 39 你如果不理解本贴的讨论主题，就不用在这里积极歪歪。
扯老木干什么？
B
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o**********a
发帖数: 330 | 43 个人观念，把第而不配首发。
我觉得过分吹捧把地而还有海页丝的球迷，有点另类装酷。
如果冒犯哪位球蜜兄弟了，请见谅
反正火箭自从走了，副狼西丝，摸不里后，没几个打球看着顺眼的 |
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h****a
发帖数: 5058 | 45 好吧，如果你说海爷的防守不够全面，我同意。
在防守有中投的大个子上，海爷确实不行，而且也没有封盖能力。
8.2绝对是2，3位的超强防守人，目前联盟中屈指可数。
至于首发，其实并不重要，也许今晚就不首发了，
可是你要知道，拿可比的防守跟8.2比，是很不厚道地，呵呵 |
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E*******1
发帖数: 3464 | 46 And many of your topics here are much more irrelevant than mine, so you don'
t need Zhuang B |
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E*******1
发帖数: 3464 | 49 Sorry about that.
But if he could use JiJiWaWa, why Zhuang B matters?
If he could use Bullshit, why shit matters? and don't mention that many
sarcastic remarks from him
So at least I hope to be treated fair |
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