h********1
发帖数: 415 | 1 这个也要考虑年龄因素吧，当时皮二还好，罗德曼都多大岁数了 |
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g*****g
发帖数: 34805 | 2 啥叫多大岁数啦？当年仍然是篮板王，防守一队，每场15，6个篮板。 |
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h********1
发帖数: 415 | 3 要是我没记错，当时没入选全明星吧
而且这15，6个篮板也是第一次夺冠的数据吧 |
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D***e
发帖数: 48486 | 4 罗德曼第一年作用最大
第三年还可以，第二年基本消失
第二年的功臣是改信伊斯兰教在太平洋失踪内位 |
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D***e
发帖数: 48486 | 7 应该是常规赛数据，第二年季后赛，忘了因为啥原因，MS闹情绪
结果公牛白捡了快船的中锋表现出色 |
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e*******e
发帖数: 9616 | 8 And a guy named Robert horry, most crunch shot made ever in nba history |
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D*****I
发帖数: 8268 | 9 他本身也不会比奥当当之流差
三联的时候已经是罗德曼生涯后期了 |
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p******d
发帖数: 284 | 10 靠，Rodman当时绝对是个宝啊，跟爵士死掐的时候全靠他搞的马龙晕头转向
其实最恐怖的是这三个人都是常驻All Defensive Team，让别的队怎么活啊。 |
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l**k
发帖数: 45267 | 12 说他不比奥当当差还是埋汰老罗了啊，就好像说奥拉朱旺不比魔兽差。。。。 |
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c***s
发帖数: 4895 | 13 据说是让乔丹做球，乔丹不干，于是他爹就挂了，然后乔丹去打棒球 |
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h**********g
发帖数: 3962 | 14 乔丹是很伟大。
但是，他的六枚戒指上浸透了皮蓬的汗水。
他的后三枚戒指上，充满了罗德曼的体味。
皮蓬的防守，可以压住对方1-4号位的最佳
得分手。皮蓬还创造了组织前锋（point forward）
这个概念。在和爵士的决赛中，他一场求用自己
的身体送给了马龙三个进攻犯规。试问有几个人
敢被马龙撞三次？乔丹敢吗？
罗德曼是难得的高智商球员。抢了篮板球自己不用。
专门送给乔丹。他可以防守住最好的大前和中锋。
被他防的没有脾气的大前，请问马龙和大嘴。公牛
的第四个冠军东部决赛横扫魔术时，防守鲨鱼的是
罗德曼。
公牛六冠后，除了OK组合外，没有一只球队有皮蓬
水平的二当家。家嫂转会到湖人之前，季后赛的战
绩是零胜十二负！
OK组合的三连冠，是西盛东衰。西部决赛马刺和
国王听到科比的名字就吓得睡不好。
乔丹和科比鼎盛时期的比赛，我都看过。他们是我
最喜欢的两个球员。如果要选一个，我会选乔丹。
但是，科比远比其他球员要好多了。他的追求和
努力，值得钦佩。 |
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h**********g
发帖数: 3962 | 17 Scottie Pippen, 5th pick in 1987.
Charles Oakley, 9th pick in 1985.
Horace Grant, 10th pick in 1987. |
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T*******i
发帖数: 4992 | 18 分特，大傻#1，嘎嫂#3，夸梅#1，当当#4，格兰特#8，安猪#10 |
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p********y
发帖数: 224 | 21 MJ makes teammates better, everybody played the best ball of their life w/
MJ. Look what Pippen has done without MJ, even with Clyde, Olajuwon, and
Barkley, Nothing!!!
Kobe needs better teammates i.e. Shaq. |
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g*****g
发帖数: 34805 | 22 Pippen led Portland to WCF. Now look at what Gasol had done without
Kobe. 0 win in 12 tries in playoff. You make my day.
In fact, look at what MJ had done without Pippen, 9 losses 1 win in
playoff. MJ needs Pippen more than Pippen needs him by your logic. |
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w******g
发帖数: 2854 | 23 这什么逻辑？1 loss 9 wins in playoff？ |
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g*****g
发帖数: 34805 | 24 typo, 9 losses 1 win in playoff without Pippen. |
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p********y
发帖数: 224 | 25 Did MJ get DPOY because of Pippen? The only guard to win it in a million
years.
Replace Pippen with a lesser talent, MJ'd still 3-peat, in fact, his stats
would be even better looking.
Put Kobe in MJ's shoe, can he ever get out of the east from the Detroit Bad
Boys? I doubt it. He can't even do it with the Big 4 against the much much
lesser Bad Boys 2. Not to mention the Suns and Jazz in the finals.
Put MJ in Kobe's shoe, Duncan would not even get a single ring. With MJ and
Shaq, they would go a... 阅读全帖 |
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w******g
发帖数: 2854 | 26 n fact, look at what MJ had done without Pippen, 9 losses 1 win in
playoff.
哪年的事？ |
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g***e
发帖数: 4074 | 27 说得是这个吧：
1985 NBA Playoffs: Jordan got humiliated by Mike Dunleavy and the Bulls were
knocked out the 1st round of the playoffs 3-1
1986 NBA Playoffs: Michael Jordan got SCHOOLED by Larry Bird and the Bulls
were swept out the playoffs 3-0
1987 NBA Playoffs: Jordan got exposed again Larry Bird and once again the
Bulls were swept out of the playoffs 3-0 |
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lg
发帖数: 2062 | 28 没有Phil Jackson率领，没有联盟最强内线帮忙，Kobe率队2胜19负收场，没进季后赛
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g*****g
发帖数: 34805 | 29 LOL, you got defeated with your own logic and now this?
Or maybe put Kobe in MJ's shoes, he won't retire and will
have 8 rings in a row, you never know.
MJ had Horace Grant and Pippen at their prime to go over
Detroit, and it took a few tries. And MJ had
Oakley, a rounding champion and he couldn't win a playoff game.
Bad
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g*****g
发帖数: 34805 | 30 那是科比受伤，乔丹受伤那年公牛还30胜进季后赛呢。 |
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T***c
发帖数: 17256 | 31 Horry pat Fisher on the back: they're talking about MJ vs St.Kobe again.
fisher: silly kinds. haven't they understood, it's US run the show, those
socalled "superstar" are just poster boy?
Steve Kerr & Paxson: true story.
metta world peace: are you guys thinking what I'm thinking?
all: hell no! |
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p********y
发帖数: 224 | 32 So pippen is in the same category of Horace Grant and Charles Oakley :D
MJ got bounced earlier in his career by some of the greatest teams in league
history, Celtics, Pistons -- the Championship teams. Still Bulls made to
the playoff each year since his rookie season. He's got a broken foot 2nd
year, and you keep talking about the w-l the first 3 years of his career.
Remember just that year after he returned from the broken foot injury, he
dropped 63 pts on Celtics, the eventual champion that ye... 阅读全帖 |
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e*******e
发帖数: 9616 | 33 mj drafted in 1984. Those are his rookie years stat.
Pipen were still playing for Arkansas.
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N*****m
发帖数: 42603 | 34 楼上都是新来的啊
我早就不跟好虫讨论这种问题了
league
Garden
Boston |
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N*****m
发帖数: 42603 | 36 被它的精神折服了
就像我从来不跟名媛讨论电子产品一样 |
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g*****g
发帖数: 34805 | 37 科比脚踝扭了，因为球队掉出季后赛队伍了，伤没好就出来打，
你说的这段，连Odom也伤了。季后赛已经铁定不进，龙套谁
还拼命呀。
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g*****g
发帖数: 34805 | 38 Well, Gasol is not as great as Pippen or Rodman, he won't make HOF
if retired today and discounting his international tounaments.
And Bulls only needed to win 30 games to be in playoff, in fact,
MJ never led the Bulls over .500 without Pippen. And MJ lost that
63 game, he did score a lot, so what, their team lost in triple OT.
At least Kobe won every game he exceeds 60.
And don't forget MJ played 3 years in college.
league
Garden
Boston |
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g*****g
发帖数: 34805 | 39 我老跟名媛不一样，我老是摆事实讲道理。在本版我从来没当过版主，
我可不需要也没法封人来说明观点。倒是新警察成天拿着乔丹这奶瓶不放。
明明对乔丹的历史一点了解都没有，就瞎鸡巴扯了。 |
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g*****g
发帖数: 34805 | 40 这话说的，科黑说不过了开始骂人，还有科黑版主纵容才能对骂。
自从熊猫当版主之后，貌似因为科比话题被封的人就很少见了。
贼喊抓贼你有一手，原来骂人是被逼的。
不了了之。 |
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i******t
发帖数: 22541 | 41 好虫哥
你觉得可鄙和敲但 谁厉害？
场下 不算
就说篮球
A 科比厉害
B 敲但厉害 |
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g*****g
发帖数: 34805 | 42 B，I've been saying that for years. It's all about rings, final
MVPs etc. But let's get the history correct, it's not like MJ's
immortal and didn't need help. Actually, he won the rings with
more help than Kobe did with his latter two. |
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g*****g
发帖数: 34805 | 43 这个东西我说了又如何？老悲剧在悲剧饭心目中已经超过科比了，没拿戒指也一样。 |
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n****e
发帖数: 4990 | 45 比较合理，我一直觉得如果单论这些成就的话，科比能排进历史前10的就不错了，
乔丹，指环王，张大帅，贾巴尔，魔术师，大鸟，邓肯，摩西马龙，奥尼尔都至少不比kb差
不知道科饭觉得是不是合理。奥尼尔前几天在科比打破唬人球员的得分纪录后说kb
greatest laker ever， 看来这两关系好了很多，不过贾巴尔跟魔术师应该很不爽。 |
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n****e
发帖数: 4990 | 46 还好你只列了两个，我担心你会列8个呢，
先看看mvp，再拍拍fmvp好像都不比kb差。就算上双核戒指算半个fmvp |
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n****e
发帖数: 4990 | 47 科比拿到的荣誉就有重要，拿不到的就不重要，你这双重标准也太明显了吧。 |
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j**y
发帖数: 7014 | 48 FMVP很值钱吗？鲶鱼精也有一个呢
估计能top100就烧香了，呵呵 |
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