c*****r
发帖数: 8227 | 1 【 以下文字转载自 Military 讨论区 】
发信人: catcher (Can I?), 信区: Military
标 题: WSJ: REMEMBRANCES Qian Xuesen: 1911-2009
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Nov 3 01:44:42 2009, 美东)
即便是在美国，也算是极尽哀荣了。
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125721495250424443.html
REMEMBRANCES Qian Xuesen: 1911-2009
Trained in the U.S., Scientist Became China's 'Rocket King'
By JASON DEAN and STEPHEN MILLER
Known in China as the "Father of Chinese Aerospace" or simply the "Rocket
King," Qian Xuesen helped launch his native country's missile progra |
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发帖数: 2120 | 2 http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-me-qian-xuesen1-2009nov01,0,2865408.story
Qian Xuesen dies at 98; rocket scientist helped establish Jet Propulsion
Laboratory
Deported in 1955 on suspicion of being a Communist, the aeronautical
engineer educated at Caltech became known as the father of China's space and
missile programs.
Qian Xuesen
Qian Xuesen, seen in 1948, a Chinese-born aeronautical engineer educated at
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s*****e
发帖数: 970 | 3 Nature 462, 735 (10 December 2009) | doi:10.1038/462735a; Published online 9
December 2009
Obituary: Qian Xuesen (1911–2009)
Jane Qiu1
Founder of China's missile and space programme.
Perhaps no one better embodies the irony of the cold-war era than Qian Xuesen,
also known as Tsien Hsue-shen, the Chinese rocket scientist who died on 31
October at the age of 97. Widely acknowledged for his work on rocket propulsion
and his contribution to the US missile programme during the Second World
War, Qian |
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c**i
发帖数: 6973 | 4 Richard McGregor, The rocket scientist key to cold war efforts on both sides
; Qian Xuesen, Missile researcher 1911-2009. Financial Times, Nov. 28, 2009.
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/fced9746-dbbc-11de-9424-00144feabdc0.html?nclick_check=1
("But more than his expertise, he understood how to train and manage teams
of scientists and had the clout in a deeply politicised research system to
give them the freedom to work.")
Excerpt in the window of the print: The injustice of the persecution of Qian
as |
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发帖数: 22 | 5 LATimes well worth a read
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-me-qian-xuesen1-2009nov01,0,2865408.story
OBITUARY
Qian Xuesen dies at 98; rocket scientist helped establish Jet Propulsion
Laboratory
Deported in 1955 on suspicion of being a Communist, the aeronautical
engineer educated at Caltech became known as the father of China's space and
missile programs.
Qian Xuesen
Qian Xuesen, seen in 1948, a Chinese-born aeronautical engineer educated at
Caltech and the Massachusetts Institu |
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h*d
发帖数: 19309 | 6 【 以下文字转载自 TsinghuaCent 讨论区 】
发信人: SimonDai (Simon), 信区: TsinghuaCent
标 题: 纽约时报关于钱学森的报道
发信站: 水木社区 (Tue Nov 3 23:29:53 2009), 站内
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/04/world/asia/04qian.html
Qian Xuesen, Father of China’s Space Program, Is Dead at 98
By MICHAEL WINES
Published: November 3, 2009
BEIJING — Qian Xuesen, a brilliant rocket scientist who single-handedly
l
ed China’s space and military rocketry efforts after he was drummed out
o
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i****g
发帖数: 426 | 7 扯，
随便给你转个扭腰时报的报道
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2009/10/31/science/AP-AS-China-Obit-Qian.html
Father of China's Space Tech Program Dies at 98
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News Agency said. He was 9 |
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发帖数: 3299 | 8 汉族的历史，男人的Y染色体单一，北方和南方一致的，但是女性的DNA是非常复杂的。
Y-chromosome haplogroup O3 is a common DNA marker in Han Chinese, as it
appeared in China in prehistoric times. It is found in more than 50% of
Chinese males, and ranging up to over 80% in certain regional subgroups of
the Han ethnicity. However, the mitochondrial DNA of Han Chinese increases
in diversity as one looks from northern to southern China, which suggests
that male migrants from northern China married with women from local peoples
after arriving... 阅读全帖 |
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q*****n
发帖数: 2570 | 9 忘了说了，以下转贴：
－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－
更详细的资料，这里有美国权威的“航空和空间技术周刊”上的一篇文章则非常详细地
叙述了钱老的专长，贡献以及回国前后的波折，足以佐证钱永健的说法，彻底推翻钱老
“放弃优越条件，毅然回国报效”的爱国主义宣传的高大形象。因为钱老是被驱逐出境
的，当时他正在申请美国国籍，企图留在美国！
有兴趣的朋友不妨看看（我只择其要点翻译一下，全文太长，这里也不能全贴出来）：
http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/generic/story_channel.jsp?channel=space&id=news/aw010708p1.xml
Qian Xuesen Laid Foundation For Space Rise in China
（钱学森为中国太空技术发展奠定了基础）
Jan 6, 2008
By Bradley Perrett
........（介绍中国空间技术如导弹打掉废弃卫星，载人火箭，嫦娥一号等）
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发帖数: 30882 | 10 You completely misunderstand China's culture.
Chinese don't envy these excellent people but hate those who try to show off
. The elites who have silently contributed a lot to Chinese people will be
respected and remembered forever, e.g. Qian Xuesen, Deng Jiaxian and Yuan
Longping.
Lang Lang is hated by western media because he shows his political stand of
supporting China's government. Those 'people' online are probably only a few
agents recruited by westerners but having thousands of IDs online... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 38600 | 11 "I am afraid this hurts the country in the opposite way - this perceived
persecution of American Chinese scientists may push them over to China -
much the same way they did to Qian Xuesen, China's father of rocket. This is
serious, as a disproportionate large number in the research community are
ethnic Chinese." |
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发帖数: 1 | 12 1. 中国病毒如果是中国发现的病毒，这是事实。病毒如何产生的，政治答案不算数，
等科学答案吧。
2. 中国没及时报道， 很容易反驳。中国医生一月份都把结果发在你美国最著名的新英
格兰医学杂志（NEJM）上了，你还说不知道，那就是政治托词了。
这是中国医生一月份的文章：
Early Transmission Dynamics in Wuhan, China, of Novel Coronavirus–Infected
Pneumonia
List of authors.
Qun Li, M.Med., Xuhua Guan, Ph.D., Peng Wu, Ph.D., Xiaoye Wang, M.P.H., Lei
Zhou, M.Med., Yeqing Tong, Ph.D., Ruiqi Ren, M.Med., Kathy S.M. Leung, Ph.D.
, Eric H.Y. Lau, Ph.D., Jessica Y. Wong, Ph.D., Xuesen Xing, Ph.D., Nijuan
Xiang, M.Med., et al.
https://www.n... 阅读全帖 |
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m***n
发帖数: 12188 | 13 因为之前有过萨斯，很有名，记忆不远
所以12月底发现疑似萨斯病例上报的时候，所有人都立刻猜测是萨斯第二，李文亮的微
信帖子也是如此。这就是你说的“觉得和萨斯差不多”，这只是第一反应的下意识猜测
，所以对美国和世界卫生组织的通报也是“疑似萨斯”，有待调查。
但是高福来调查之后，发现人不传人，来自海鲜市场的动物，所以海鲜市场立刻消毒了
，别的好像就没啥好干的了，这是后来不太重视和李文亮被训诫的原因，李文亮听到萨
斯传言后自发戴口罩上班也被主任训诫，认为这是歧视病人，有病人投诉，主任自己也
不戴口罩，后来也感染去世了。
接下来专家们觉得这就是自己发文章的好时候了，要抢credit，是发文章的好机会，高
福、石正丽等都忙着利用这个机会发文章。有的猜测蝙蝠，有的猜测果子狸穿山甲竹鼠
（因为海鲜市场从来没有蝙蝠，但是有人工养殖的竹鼠卖）。当时有流传微信骂他们除
了发文章，什么也不干了。
1月10号的公开会议上，钟南山用广州一个例子，猜测可能存在有人传人的现象（此人
没有海鲜市场接触史，但是似乎有间接武汉接触史，这个例子后来被证明是错的，此人
是从香港感染的）。此后确诊病例出现，到1月20号专家组认... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 3 | 14 国际媒体对钱学森的评价
中国航天之父钱学森上月末去世，近期中文论坛不少帖子评价他。我觉得每个人都可以
对公众人物都有自己态度，不能原谅他一生中某些行为或认为他很伟大都是个人自由，
而对评价者进行人身攻击就不好了。本文旨在我有限时间和能力范围内，把国际媒体对
钱学森的评价做一个客观地呈现：
方法：在西方主流百科全书和媒体中搜索"Qian Xuesen"和"Tsien Hsue-shen"。我都会
把原始链接附上，欢迎读者再检验原文，以免有疏漏和个人偏见。我感兴趣的是西方人
对他的“负面行为”如何看待，查资料过程中重点关注“负面”评价。
结果：
1. 传统百科全书：
我搜索过电脑里装的四本英语和法语最大的百科全书：大英百科(Britainnica 2009)，
微软百科(Encarta 2009)，拉鲁斯百科(Grand Larousse encyclopédique)，和
Encyclopaedia Universalis 2009，均找不到任何和钱学森相关的信息。——没有相关
词条也没有包含关键词的页面。
（对于百科全书信息有疑问的，可以参看http://fr.wikipedia.or |
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h****n
发帖数: 1 | 16 Check this book out
thread of silkworm by Iris Chang |
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t****u
发帖数: 8614 | 18 老美甭提多后悔了，早知如此，还不如当年直接给老钱一个公民了。
after |
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Z****e
发帖数: 2999 | 19 China's "Rocket King" + One of founders of JPL
hoho |
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n****i
发帖数: 1772 | 20 悔在这里：
"It was the stupidest thing this country ever did. He was no more a
Communist than I was, and we forced him
to go."
"That the government permitted this genius, this scientific genius, to be
sent to Communist China to pick his
brains is one of the tragedies of this century."
当年麦卡锡份子让Qian揭发别人他也拒绝了，
Qian的公民被拒后被house arrest了5年。 |
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发帖数: 4 | 21 http://www.sfweekly.com/Issues/2005-05-18/news/feature_print.html
摘一段话，提到了钱学森
The issue of passing sensitive technology to foreign students arose in a pu
blic way in the 1950s when Qian Xuesen, a Chinese student who excelled at bo
th the Massachusetts Institute of Technology and the California Institute of
Technology, went on to become the father of China's nuclear weapons program
.
Since then, a variety of regulations and agencies have been created to monit
or and control so-called deemed expo |
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s*****e
发帖数: 970 | 22 新华社北京11月2日电（新华社“新华视点”记者孙闻）“为什么我们的学校总是
培养不出杰出人才？”从2005年起，病榻上的钱学森多次问前来探望他的温家宝总理。
今年9月4日，温家宝总理在北京市第三十五中学调研时说：“这句话他给我讲过五
六遍。……我理解，他讲的杰出人才不是我们说的一般人才，而是像他那样有重大成就
的人才。如果拿这个标准来衡量，我们这些年甚至建国以来培养的人才尤其是杰出人才
，确实不能满足国家的需要，还不能说在世界上占到应有的地位。”
带着这份忧思，2009年10月的最后一天，98岁高龄的钱学森走了。两天来，顶风冒
雪前来老人寓所吊唁的人络绎不绝。凝视着钱老遗像，许多人思索着他的这句话。
忧思缘何而起，钱老有何建议？跟随钱老26年之久的秘书兼学术助手、年届七旬的
涂元季先生，2日在此间接受了新华社“新华视点”记者的专访。
钱老心目中的杰出人才
在钱学森这位科学巨擘眼中，什么样的人才算得上“杰出人才”呢？
“他心目中的杰出人才要比一般的专家、院士高出一大截，用他的话说叫“科技帅
才”。”涂元季说，“按钱老的标准，这样的杰出人才不仅要在国内某一领域位居前沿
，而且要在全球科技领 |
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s*****e
发帖数: 970 | 23 尹红风 戴汝为
近年来，我们开始把思维科学的研究成果应用到下一代智能搜索引擎，也越来越清楚地
看到，这正在开启、引领下一场技术革命——知识技术革命，而钱学森先生正是这场伟
大的技术革命的奠基人。
科学大师钱学森先生在20世纪50年代就开始思考并开创了思维科学（认知科学）领域的
研究。回顾自己所走过的科研工作历程，我们深刻地认识到钱先生思维科学思想的巨大
科学意义。今天终于将钱老的思想深入研究、发展为科学的模型和理论，并进一步用算
法和计算机模拟实现。看到这些得之不易的研究成果付诸实践，我们万分感激和庆幸当
年这项工作得到了钱老高度的肯定和密切、深入的指导。
近年来，我们开始把思维科学的研究成果应用到下一代智能搜索引擎，也越来越清楚地
看到，这正在开启、引领下一场技术革命——知识技术革命，而钱学森先生正是这场伟
大的技术革命的奠基人。
思维科学与计算机模拟技术
钱先生提出人的思维是有规律的，可以用科学的方法研究，思维科学是可以成立的，并
于上世纪80年代撰写了著名的《关于思维科学》一书。他认为思维科学只研究思维的规
律和方法，进一步指出“思维”可以分成抽象（逻辑）思维、形象（直感）思维和 |
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