q*c
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qmc (qmc) 于 (Tue Jan 6 22:39:37 2009) 提到:
我认为Wedge是ski必须学的一种双板技术，一开始学wedge是好处多于坏处。wedge相对
大多数人来说容易学，一上来就平行和转弯相对难学，而学会了wedge就相当于学会刹车
，学滑雪要从学停止开始，安全的重要性得到了保障。
平行和转弯是相对进一步的技巧。学了wedge以后，有人转到平行所用的时间短，有人要
时间长些，但是人都不是吴下阿蒙，只要去接着滑，他们会慢慢学会平行的。所以我赞
同第一节课教wedge，第二节课说：忘了wedge，让我们来学习平行。
如果一上来就会平行和转弯，这很好，也许是天生平衡性好，有运动天赋，也许是有其
他的运动基础例如溜冰，但是不是大多数人都能这样的。学会了平行，也一样是需要会
wedge的，你到了很高级了，很多很多时候你一样也会用到wedge的技巧，你有时候并没
有足够的空间让你来转弯和平行刻雪。
所以我认为一开始学wedge好处多。
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A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 2 it depends on how you other clubs and club's distance.
the goal is to even out the gap in terms of distance, and optimize the
choice around the green. (please note,
it is not to maximize all the choice, since more choice might not be good
for someone who doesnt like have
too many choice)
if you think you dont need much longer clubs in your bag, you can save one
for 4 wedge setup, as long as
you dont have distance gap for your long clubs.
if you can not spare extra club from long clubs, you could... 阅读全帖 |
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q*c
发帖数: 17993 | 3 我认为Wedge是ski必须学的一种双板技术，一开始学wedge是好处多于坏处。wedge相对
大多数人来说容易学，一上来就平行和转弯相对难学，而学会了wedge就相当于学会刹车
，学滑雪要从学停止开始，安全的重要性得到了保障。
平行和转弯是相对进一步的技巧。学了wedge以后，有人转到平行所用的时间短，有人要
时间长些，但是人都不是吴下阿蒙，只要去接着滑，他们会慢慢学会平行的。所以我赞
同第一节课教wedge，第二节课说：忘了wedge，让我们来学习平行。
如果一上来就会平行和转弯，这很好，也许是天生平衡性好，有运动天赋，也许是有其
他的运动基础例如溜冰，但是不是大多数人都能这样的。学会了平行，也一样是需要会
wedge的，你到了很高级了，很多很多时候你一样也会用到wedge的技巧，你有时候并没
有足够的空间让你来转弯和平行刻雪。
所以我认为一开始学wedge好处多。 |
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w*******y
发帖数: 60932 | 4 Cleveland CG16 Wedge
Available in 52 56 or 60Lofts
Steel Shaft, Black Pearl Finish
Right Hand Only
LinkY:
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ET
发帖数: 10701 | 5 cleveland is the biggest brand among the wedges.
There are several commbination:
1) 60 degree(lob wedge) + 56 degree (sand wedge) + 52 degree (gap wedge) +
pitching wedge (46 degree)
2) 58 degree + 52 degree + pitching wedge
3) 64 + 60 + 56 + 52 + 46 for tour players who are going to play a short
course. |
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n*****0
发帖数: 185 | 6 Ebay.
Best Sand Wedge (SW): The Cleveland Tour Action 588 RTG 56 degree Sand wedge
Best Lob and Gap Wedges: The Titleist Vokey 200 Series are preferred by top
players more often than any other brand when it comes to lob wedges and gap
wedges.
Best Pitching Wedge (PW): The Ping iWedge |
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v***s
发帖数: 4031 | 7 A wedge selection, like a putter, is up to personal preference. I started
with a Cleveland wedge and liked it since the very beginning. I have kept
using Cleveland wedges for most of my games. I also bought TM, Callaway and
Ping wedges and still use Ping Tour-W wedges occasionally. I tried Vokey
wedges about three years ago and couldn't get used to them, but I know they
are good ones. |
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ET
发帖数: 10701 | 8 it's an interesting thing for me.
last year, I bought several wedges (cleveland reg 588), 60 degree, 56 degree
and 48 degree. I took away my pitching wedge from my bag, replaced by the
48 degree g/p wedge. the 48 wedge turned to be my favoriate club. all 380 -
400 yards par 4 will be my driver + 48 wedge. I am always able to hit solid
shot from the club.
unfortunately, this club is too old. The groove of club face is almost worn
out. So I bought two new 56 degree and 48 degree Cleveland Reg 588 |
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ET
发帖数: 10701 | 9 not that hard..
i used to carry 4 wedges. now back to 3.
you gotta understand why people needs 4 wedges.
say the course yardsage is about 6400 or less, so 80% of par 4s (10 total)
are about 380 yards and less. if you have a 250 tee shot or longer, the
approach distance would be ur wedge range.
however, if u don't have the 250 yards tee shot, ur approach shot distance
would be 9/8/7, so ur 4 wedges won't be that meaningful.
why some pros need 4 wedges? like i said in the prevous post, for the cou |
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x****u
发帖数: 44466 | 10 指的不是45度上面都是冰的那种道，在电视里面也没见过别人这么下过。跳台滑雪也就
是40度左右加上冰面，摔倒后不需要救援，因为救援队上不去，人会直接滑下来。
央视和国内滑雪协会什么的总是建议初学者选比自己身高长10厘米以上的直板，这个虽
然被网上玩家痛批，但实际上还有一定道理。因为国内的滑雪教练一般都会先教初学者
滑wedging制动减速，而当你wedging下陡坡的时候，实际上就是推雪机，推雪的时候板
子越长获得的阻力就越大。至于直板，比起carving板推雪的时候更有效果。为了让自
己推雪更有效果，雪是越松软越好。所以说初学者如果想用wedging下双黑道，最好用
长直板挑天降大雪地面很软的时候试试。下面说说个人体会的技巧。
为了让wedging减速效果明显，一定要用脚跟压住板尾，让内刃后侧磕住雪，另外如果
你希望短距离停下来，可以把腿放松，收腿，再发力用脚后跟踩板尾，这样反复几次就
能快速减速。
我第二次坐缆车的时候，教练就把我们弄到了一个大概25度左右的坡上师范wedging可
以下任何道。当时天降大雪，所以我们都比较容易的做到了，之后试过更陡的地方也可
以应付。但接着就遇到了不 |
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v****e
发帖数: 19471 | 11 非大牛。rising wedge，所谓的上升旗形，就是下跌第一波之后的一个休息，特征是低
量，向上倾斜，一般会持续几天。这次欧洲的1T让这个wedge的形态比较野，好像世界一
下子美好了似的。但欧洲问题没这么简单，wedge也终归只是wedge，还会实现它的功能
，也就是continuous pattern，整理后延续之前的下跌趋势。当然TA无绝对，如果大盘
真的能够回去站稳50日线，也完全可能测试新高，然后再下跌（做双顶）。但我觉得那
样搞的可能性不大，因为之前出货的时间和空间已经比较充分了。
欢迎探讨。欢迎歪楼。也欢迎发挥到政治历史方面。 |
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s*******w
发帖数: 210 | 12 i think the maximum allowed is 14.
here's what i have in my bag:
taylormade v-steel 3 wood with firm steel shaft;
taylormade rescue mid 2 hybrid;
callaway big bertha steel shaft 2 iron;
taylormade rac lt 3 iron through 9 iron, + pitching wedge, firm steel shaft;
taylormade rac 52 degree wedge;
callaway 56 degree wedge, which i use as my sand wedge;
odessey 2-ball blade putter (black);
my next club will be a driver, still debating between taylormade r7 or
titleist pro 905. if i do get a driver i |
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p*********n
发帖数: 1618 | 13 go to clevelandgolf.com, they have a very detailed but straight-forward
instruction on how to choose a right combination of wedges, either a 3-wedge
or 4-wedge combo. You can also find info about how to choose the right bounce
of your wedge. Very educational.
54。if |
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A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 14 when to use lw?
my understanding is pitching use p wedge, bunker/sand use s wedge.
i never got chance/need to use l wedge. my l wedge is stilled wrapped with
the brand new plastic, although i carry it with me everytime.
course |
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f*t
发帖数: 382 | 15 Yes, if you are a long hitter, take more wedges, or vise versa.
My approaching shoot are normal distribution with Pitching wedge as average.
So, more wedge is better for me.
My playmates prefer shorter tees:)
To me, I used my Wedges a lot for approaching shorts. The shorter the club, the
better accuracy you get. |
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t***u
发帖数: 2057 | 16 TGW 打折，2 for 150，加上15% off above 125, total less than 130. No tax +
free shipping.
不知划算否。这价格和能找到的Nike Wedges 折扣价差不多，但毕竟是09年的旧款了。
在52，60 或52，58 间徘徊。Tour Zip Groove 大概spin少些，版上有用过的童鞋说说。
还在用X-22 自带的56 Sand Wedge，觉得还算顺手。有根Maxfli的60，球总是从他光滑
的杆面轻轻划过，每次在场上没忍住把它掏出来就是悲剧的开始。X-22 的PW45度，和
SW的Gap实在太大了。
也许，或者，依我现在的水平应该用好手上的杆，明年再考虑入Wedges？
翻到版上的旧贴大家伙晒装备，Driver，iron，putter各有将就的，唯独Wedges基本都
是好家伙，不禁心痒。 |
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A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 17 Approaching Wedge is also known as Gap Wedge.
for wedge set-up, both armix and vibes' posts are excellent. ET had some
posts before about how to set your wedge sets. you can search more on that
topic.
my
I |
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x****u
发帖数: 44466 | 18 让初学者错误的认为滑雪可以像开车一样，可以随便踩刹车。就好象教人学游泳先让人
家穿上救生衣一样。
当然对于雪场来说，新手会wedging减速，可以狼狈的下各种雪道后能大大增加回头客
数量。
我身边几个人，就是因为滑了几次wedging后，只要速度稍微一快就想用这个办法减速
。偏偏现在大多数地方出租的carving的短板子并不适合wedging，结果这些人稍微遇到
点坡度就会搞得筋疲力尽往往还是摔跤。
其实滑板本身就可以利用转弯和搓雪减速甚至停下来，就好象游泳时人体本来就可以浮
在水面上，救生衣什么是没用的。
滑雪依赖wedging减速＝＝游泳时利用手脚的力量换气。你不相信雪面和雪板，他们自
然也不会帮助你。 |
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m***n
发帖数: 690 | 19 除了安全考虑，先做wedge主要是为了培养雪感，感受重心的变化，以及感受雪板的刃
以前听过一个说法，专业队训练第一年基本都是练wedge
俺现在滑的很烂，觉得一个原因就是当年练wedge不够，急于上parallel，造成现在重
心还是靠后，弱腿一边的板子吃不上刃的问题，很难改
当然我是属于比较笨的，力量也不行，滑雪也没啥前途了，只能瞎滑滑了
这个雪季还要找时间巩固一下wedge，呵呵呵 |
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q*c
发帖数: 17993 | 20 ☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
xiaoju (可爱的龙猫) 于 (Wed Dec 31 09:15:03 2008) 提到:
让初学者错误的认为滑雪可以像开车一样，可以随便踩刹车。就好象教人学游泳先让人
家穿上救生衣一样。
当然对于雪场来说，新手会wedging减速，可以狼狈的下各种雪道后能大大增加回头客
数量。
我身边几个人，就是因为滑了几次wedging后，只要速度稍微一快就想用这个办法减速
。偏偏现在大多数地方出租的carving的短板子并不适合wedging，结果这些人稍微遇到
点坡度就会搞得筋疲力尽往往还是摔跤。
其实滑板本身就可以利用转弯和搓雪减速甚至停下来，就好象游泳时人体本来就可以浮
在水面上，救生衣什么是没用的。
滑雪依赖wedging减速＝＝游泳时利用手脚的力量换气。你不相信雪面和雪板，他们自
然也不会帮助你。
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mapcar (再次等待 - 明年) 于 (Wed Dec 31 13:27:39 2008) 提到:
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ET
发帖数: 10701 | 21 途径river ridge golf club,pro shop里有lost & found的wedges在卖，$10/each.
cleveland 588 系列的49 degree/56 degree/60 degree被我全部拿下。
重新换了grip， lamskin $4.99/each, +$3 labour at golf smith.
我的新wedge组合，
47(p)- 125 yards
/49(g)- 105 yards
/56(s ) - 90 yards
/60(l) -75 yards
齐了。
知道吗？ Tiger Woods' wedge 也是这些。 呵呵，我倒是回头才知道的。 |
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t****i
发帖数: 904 | 22 读了dave pelz的书，也上了他的学校，想把现在的三支wedges换成四支，不过这样的
话大概整个iron set都要换，因为一定要找到50读的pitching wedge，难度比较大。
这里的同修们都带几支wedge? 什么loft? |
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p***t
发帖数: 51 | 23 Pitching wedge seems like a misnomer. I know a lot of people use sand wedge
or more lofted wedge to pitch.
As for the most important shots that average play percieves, I think
approach shot is very important. At least for me, landing the little ball
close to the pin always makes me happy. |
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b*******e
发帖数: 724 | 24 建议二手CLEVELAND的WEDGE,非常好的东东.先买个人52度的GW,CHOKE DOWN打80YD没问
题,FULL SWING100,40-50的LOW RUNNER我也用她,用途比较广.相比之下,我的SAND
WEDGE就不那么长用,只是用来打BUNKER,或是FULL SWING打85-90YD.先填GW吧,然后再慢
慢添56,60.CLEVELAND的WEDGE买一个是一个,套杆将来可能成鸡肋.我原来的套杆就送人
了. |
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A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 25 其实我买的时候就是看中它popular, 也是GOLFDIGEST的HOT LIST的GOLD LIST
我还有一款 Titleist Vokey Spin Milled Wedge 的 52, bounce 8
好不好的话，问我，我是觉得好，只是我想换一个LOW BOUNCE的58
我现在的56 bounce10的 用的机会不多，
近的我用P来CHIP或者60来FLOP，
远的用52来PITCH，或者P来BUMP—RUN
按说56用途最广，放我这用不上
我需要一个好的BUNKER WEDGE，平常用60，现在发现60的出BUNKER太近，我想要两个
WEDGE FOR BUNKER，这样应对更轻松一点 |
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M*****e
发帖数: 568 | 26 现在只有一根CG11 loft 56 high bounce的杆，full swing 70 yard左右。
感觉距离上远点近点都有gap需要cover。
可是又觉得没有必要配三根wedge在包里，所以比较犹豫。
按说2 wedge的搭配52,58最常见，可是目前的这个56就鸡肋了。
大家给介绍介绍经验吧。
现在我这样包里常备也就八九根杆，水平刚break 100的情况，
应该怎么配wedge比较合理？ |
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v***s
发帖数: 4031 | 27 带几根，带那根Wedge取决于使用的频率。很长的一段时间里，我是带四杆的。今年，
开始统计球杆使用频率，发觉Gap Wedge，每场球几乎不用，所以，最近，就开始不带
了。我Lob Wedge使用的很频繁，例如，上周的球赛，用了十五次，平均也要在十四次
左右，比Driver使用的频率还要多。 |
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y**********7
发帖数: 769 | 28 欣赏你用的“鸡肋”二字。 我还有一方“鸡肋堂”的印章。 在我看来你的这个56不鸡
肋。 基于你说的“full swing 70 yard左右”，我觉得还是应在挥杆技术方面下点工
夫。 56度的SAND WEDGE怎么也要打个85到90码左右。 我用56和60两个WEDGE。 在56和
PW之间的距离通过SETUP时球的前后位置控制FULL SWING的距离（85到120码），有时用
S杆，有时用P杆，取决于地势和风向；85码之内全部是LOB WEDGE来处理。 其实无论用
S或L杆，都可以打出各种弹道的球，包括很高和很低弹道的球。 在GREEN旁边时，分别
用P，S，L杆CHIPPIING，原则是尽量降低弹道，增加滚动距离。 |
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f*t
发帖数: 382 | 29 I agree, right now my wedge shoots are 3/4 or half swings and use 52, 56, 60
depends on distance. that's much better than use 1 wedge to cover all
distance.
Never full power my wedges.
况下也能get close to pin。
putter chip, bump & run.
这是不得不用lob的时候了。 |
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p****4
发帖数: 517 | 30 Here is what I do.
If I play a course >6400 yards, I bring two wedges (54 and 60) and leave gap
wedge to add a second hybrid. If the course is shorter, I add the gap wedge
and bring only one hybrid. |
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a***x
发帖数: 398 | 31 因为我的Pitching wedge 是48度的，目前我的wedge配置是： Tieleist SM black
pearl， 52/08， 56/11，60/4. 各差4度， 用着还顺手。另外还有一只60/08湿地备用
。 56度的high bounce，当sand wedge用。 |
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j*******0
发帖数: 347 | 32 I have a AW and I thought that is SW. After reading all the posts, I feel my
understanding was wrong.
So, sand wedge is not approaching wedge, right? If that is, then it seems I
need to buy a sand wedge. Right now, I use AW to hit the balls when they
fall into the sand. |
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a***x
发帖数: 398 | 33 MIZUNO和一些牌子，把WEDGE命名为PW,AW,GW,SW,LW。 Titlist和nike直接用loft
angle命名。其实是一样的，按照loft来分的。wedge除了LOFT，还要选BOUNCE。In
general，越软的地表情况（包括长草，比较干，细的沙坑）要用比较大的BOUNCE角度
，一般sand wedge的bounce都大于10度。硬地，短草要用低的bounce，lobwedge的
bounce基本上是4-8度。 |
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f*t
发帖数: 382 | 34 That's the right and great choice.
you hook the ball by close the face which de-loft the club and ball will run
longer. Gap wedge are more like a Pitching wedge. Bubba for sure can reach
the hole with Pitch Wedge.
He was lucky that the pin was at the back of the green. if it was a front pin location, it would be much worse for Bubba. |
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G*******s
发帖数: 10605 | 35 【 以下文字转载自 SmartShopper 俱乐部 】
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w*******y
发帖数: 60932 | 36 Amazon has the Liberator Black Label 24" Wedge Ramp Combo on sale foar $167.
24.:
http://www.amazon.com/Liberator-Black-Label-24-Inch-Microfiber/
Product Features
Size: Regular
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Liberator Shapes
I ordered this a few days ago from amazon for Valentines day and it was $217
.00. I just called them for a price adjustment.
This set retails for around $320.0... 阅读全帖 |
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w********r
发帖数: 8704 | 37 室内用wedge anchor没问题。我的在外面会潮湿，招了一圈没有hot-dipped wedge
anchor卖， epoxy带adaptor，用caulking gun,是比较粘，还好了。 |
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m****i
发帖数: 1401 | 38 我们用过tucker sling wedge，是版上一个mm推荐的，我们宝宝的reflux是比较严重的
，平躺完全没法睡的那种，单纯用wedge宝宝不喜欢，后来我自己加了swaddle以后他睡
得比较好，长到16磅终于outgrow可以自己平躺睡的。 |
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s*******n
发帖数: 412 | 40 抱得快崩溃了，想买个wedge,sling啥的。
不过那个tucker,resq wedge都好贵，不知道买了好不好用？ |
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j*****8
发帖数: 60 | 41 我花120美刀买了个wedge，还听管用的。娃当时2个月，绑在wedge上就睡整觉了。 |
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c*******3
发帖数: 24 | 42 Just my humble opinion, for references only.
Actually if I were you, I would keep the 56-10 club for two reasons:
1). You said you would replace it with 58 (w/ low bounce). Then what do you
plan to use for sand wedge? I don't suppose you will use your 60 degree all
the time, and what is the bounce on that? Bounce is particularly important
for sand and soft surfaces, that's why all sand wedge are designed with high
-bounce. On soft surfaces, high-bounce keeps the lip away from the ground so
the c |
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u*********r
发帖数: 2735 | 43 are you sure about Choi?
DRIVER: TaylorMade R11 9*
FAIRWAY WOOD: Ping i15 15.5* --- what's this?
HYBRID: TaylorMade Rescue TP 19*
IRONS: Miura CB 501 (3-PW)
WEDGES: Miura Wedge Series (54*), Titleist Vokey Design Spin Milled (59*)
PUTTER: Odyssey White Hot #2
BALL: Titleist Pro V1
why is it difficult to hit a 3 woods off the fairway? i dont get it.
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c*********e
发帖数: 107 | 44 Tommy Armour Forged 60 degree wedge: $4.97
Cleveland CG10 52 degree wedge: $19.97
Most clearance items are left handed. |
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p****4
发帖数: 517 | 45 Hit a couple of balls at Roger Dunns with a 54 deg graphite stiff. No too
much difference from the one with S200. Wedges usually have higher swing
weight than the irons for an average golfer. Most of the times I hit wedges
with up to 10 o'clock swing, very rarely with full swing. |
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A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 46 On last Thursday, I went to play a round at San Ramon muni (local muni
course), ended up finishing 9 holes.
On Sunday, played a full 18 holes at the Bridges, a much harder course with
faster green.
for both rounds, around the green or 80 yards within, i used the new wedge
as much as possible.
for the 9-hole, I finished with +2, 2 bogey, 7 par (5 GIR, 2 save), the 2
bogey are 1 chip + 2 putts when i missed GIR. for the 5 GIR, 2 of them I
used the wedge to get on green.
for the 18-hole, i had my c... 阅读全帖 |
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A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 47 Totally agree, it is just personal preference.
Most of my other friends are gaming Cleveland. It is almost the offical
wedges for the group. Don't know why I dont find it is appealling.
Vokey was my first wedge, i like it right away. The first one was 56 SM.
then I bought another from Vokey, 52. One of my other buddies recommended me
Scratch. then, I bought 58 Scratch, and bend it to 57, trade my 56 SM to "
divot". Hope he still likes it.
Now in my bag, Vokey 52 SM (Spin Milled), Vokey 56 TVD
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A*f
发帖数: 3067 | 48 Finally i had a good round with my Wedge and putter
Although, I did not break 80, but that was the closest I can get at the
claimed highest rating course in north california. (though, i played from
blue tee, 73.4/141), 86 with 5 penalty (2 lost balls, 1 into hazard)
the day before the round, I got a tip from a guy also chip around the green.
He noticed that for short putt, my back stroke is too big. He told me that
since I feel the back swing was big, and I try to compensate, which mess up
the s... 阅读全帖 |
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j*******0
发帖数: 347 | 49 My ball is closer to green now so piching wedge hits too far.
Can anyone recommend a good lob wedge to own? thanks! |
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v***s
发帖数: 4031 | 50 除了PW外， 第一个该加的是SW，不管是高手，还是新手，能用到SW的时候和场合很多。
60度的LW并不好掌握。我很久的一段时间都是用四根Wedges，去年开始带三根，最近几
个月有时只带两根，PW和SW，没有什么不方便。
至于Wedge的牌子，Cleveland和Titleist的卖的比较好，买翻新的588或VokeySM4是不
会错的。 |
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