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l****z
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March 9, 2012
Gallup has a poll that informs us that voter enthusiasm is higher for
Republicans today than it is for Democrats. This is not a big surprise
considering that it is the GOP that is the party currently on the outside
looking in at the Oval Office. It is pretty common to see the party on the
outs a bit more enthusiastic than the party in. But the Democrat’s numbers
show that the bottom fell out for them since 2007.
What Gallup found was that by 53% to 43%, Republicans held the edge in... 阅读全帖
c**m
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http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/north-carolina-voters-banned
North Carolinians voted to change the state constitution Tuesday to say that
the only valid "domestic legal partnership" in the state is marriage
between a man and a woman, according to the AP's projection. The amendment
passed 61 to 39 percent with most counties reporting, making North Carolina
the 29th state with a gay marriage ban in its constitution.
The state already outlawed gay marriage, but the constitutional amendment
makes... 阅读全帖
l****z
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来自主题: USANews版 - AARP opposing Voter ID
by Rossputin
Another fight is brewing in Minnesota over that state’s proposed Voter ID
amendment to the state’s constitution. The state chapter of the AARP (along
with the ACLU) is opposing the measure, claiming it will keep some elderly
people from voting.
News reports describe conservative AARP members cutting up their membership
cards, and there is a “Ditch the AARP” movement being spearheaded by a
group called Minnesota Majority aiming to get people to boycott the
organization. The group no... 阅读全帖
l****z
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The Democratic National Committee has terminated the employment of Houston,
Texas, Organizing For America Regional Field Director Stephanie Caballero
after she was caught on camera calling voter fraud “cool” and “so funny”
while advising a presumably-liberal voter how to vote twice.
In a comment to the liberal Talking Points Memo, DNC spokeswoman Melanie
Roussell accused James O’Keefe and Project Veritas of selectively editing
their videos – but admitted that what Caballero did on his tape was w... 阅读全帖
l****z
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Wednesday, October 17, 2012
Support remains high for requiring voters to prove their identity at the
polls, but more voters than ever believe requiring photo identification is
discriminatory. However, there are wide partisan differences of opinion on
this issue.
A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 66% of Likely U
.S. Voters believe voter fraud is a serious problem in America today, with
33% who say it is a Very Serious one. Twenty-eight percent (28%) disagree,
but that i... 阅读全帖
p***a
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Obama阵营实在太贱了...
http://politics.blogs.foxnews.com/2012/10/22/florida-warns-voters-fraudulent-notification-letter
The Florida secretary of state is warning election supervisors across the
Sunshine State about a “possible act of voter intimidation and fraudulent
activity very seriously.”
In the letter, Secretary of State Ken Detzner says that voters in multiple
counties have recently received suspicious "official looking" mail alleging
that they are potentially ineligible to vote.
"In addition t... 阅读全帖
l****z
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VOTE FRAUD: Vir. Dem’s Field Director Conspires to Commit Voter Fraud,
Forge Docs
October 24, 2012 by Warner Todd Huston
Jim Moran is an extremist, liberal Congressman from the state of Virginia
and it appears that his campaign office thinks perpetrating vote fraud is a
very good idea. So good that Moran’s campaign field director, his son
Patrick, conspired with the undercover camera of James O’Keefe to commit
vote fraud through forged documents and other violations of the law.
This is pretty ... 阅读全帖
l****z
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Remember how, during the media's failed months-long crusade to push for gun
control, the GOP was under siege 24/7 from left-wingers like Chuck Todd, Joe
Scarborough, and Wolf Blitzer armed with polls that showed 80% wanted
background checks tightened, including a majority of Republicans?
Part of the media strategy (CNN turned their entire network over to the
partisan cause) was relentless concern-trolling. The cries that the GOP was
doomed if our 2nd Amendment rights weren't further restricted c... 阅读全帖
l****z
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Voters Overwhelmingly Oppose Imperial President’s Lawless Amnesty
by Jammie via Jammie Wearing Fools
Ever since Obama decided to throw a post-election temper tantrum by
legalizing millions of lawbreakers there’s been a dearth of polls. We
finally found one and the people definitely aren’t on his side.
Most voters oppose President Obama’s reported plan to unilaterally
grant amnesty to several million illegal immigrants and think Congress
should challenge him in court if he goes ahead with it.... 阅读全帖
m****g
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Be cautious.
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/byron-york-showing-strength-i
In many of Trump's victories this year, commentators have noted that late-
deciding voters have chosen another candidate, either Marco Rubio earlier in
the campaign, or Ted Cruz more recently. Trump would then "underperform"
poll estimates, while still winning. That inevitably led to the suggestion
that GOP voters were changing their minds and that Trump was fading. Late
deciders moved away from Trump in Iowa on Feb. 1 ... 阅读全帖
m********g
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Exit polls: Wisconsin GOP voters want nominee with most delegates, not
majority
By Nick Gass
04/05/16 05:46 PM EDT
WARNING: Early exit polls are incomplete, and they should be interpreted
with caution. They only include interviews with voters who cast ballots
earlier in the day, which could underrepresent certain groups. And the
networks don’t release full results before polls have closed statewide;
they only tease out certain numbers, some of which will shift significantly
in the final survey.
... 阅读全帖
M*****l
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来自主题: USANews版 - Trump任内不通过voter ID law
这个,“基本权利”和一些附加的权利界限已经模糊了,左派把一切都往向他们有利的
方向拗,右派也不能太遵循原教旨的宪法权利。
好比结婚是不是“基本权利”,宗教信仰,言论自由,持枪,这些都随着社会环境改变
了。很多人也把接受医疗、接受福利、驾车这些privilege和基本权利在类似语境下使
用。
你说的这个观点的确让voter ID law在理论上很难通过,但可以看另一面,即这基本是
唯一的光明正大的阻碍。普通群众不分左右对voter ID都没有太大意见,反对者也无法
找出一票人来声泪俱下地控诉因为检查voter ID导致他们受到迫害妻离子散家破人亡。
在一些比美国左得多的国家voter ID都是在执行的。所以,除了严格地按照法理说不过
去,其余的操作起来都可行。
而你说的丢了ID就不让投票的,操作起来很简单。只要把没有ID的人在执法记录仪前报
上姓名,地址,驾照信息,ssn,简单查验通过就可以了。现在违法投票本来也是crime
,很多人敢投是因为没有人管,投完就走,再也无法查验。让他们留下视频记录,他们
还没那个胆子。

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是不是?这就是我说的:一谈到 Voter ID,这里就一堆阴谋论与歧视,但却没有几个
人仔细思考反对 voter ID 的真正理由。
凡事搞清楚正反双方理由,再做议论好不好?为了科普与导正,我重覆一下过去一两天
我说过的话,欢迎理性反驳:
美国有许多 ID,但没有一个公民身份 ID。驾照、SSN、居民 ID、ITIN 。。。等等,
这些都不是公民身份,无法证明有投票权。所以如果要有公民身份 ID 才能投票,必须
靠护照或出生证明,而许多好端端的美国人没有这个。所以 voter ID 有执行上的困难。
当然,现在有 34 个州需要某种 ID 才能投票,大家可以研究一下,这些 requirement
是不是真的达到确认公民身份?有没有造成反效果、淘汰了有资格却无 ID 的美国人
?剩下的 16 个州,就是为了避免造成错误淘汰,而不强制要求 voter ID。
其实这些都是历史因素,不要一动就用阴谋论来猜疑对方,非常非常无聊。
美国历史上就是自治程度高,联邦缺乏统合的能力。历史上美国的选举投票,本来就很
ad hoc,可能一个厨房一张桌子就可以决定地方事务。美国的历史是由下而上,所以
许多事... 阅读全帖
y******9
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你这个需要数据支持,多少人拿不出来公民的证明,1%还是10%,这个区别大了。你不
能光说很多人拿不出证明就完事了。
这些拿不出证明的,很多应该是有ssn的,尤其如果是你说的那些老人。用ssn可以筛出
来很大一批。ssn里面公民非公民是有记录的。既无法证明公民又没有ssn的,应该在公
民里面很少数了。
如果真想搞,肯定是有办法的。一个公民,在社会生活了那么久,没有了出生纸就不能
证明自己了?这肯定是极少数的。他的工作记录,银行记录,都有公民非公民的记录,
要查肯定能查


: 是不是?这就是我说的:一谈到 Voter ID,这里就一堆阴谋论与歧视,但却没
有几个

: 人仔细思考反对 voter ID 的真正理由。

: 凡事搞清楚正反双方理由,再做议论好不好?为了科普与导正,我重覆一下过去
一两天

: 我说过的话,欢迎理性反驳:

: 美国有许多 ID,但没有一个公民身份 ID。驾照、SSN、居民 ID、ITIN 。。。
等等,

: 这些都不是公民身份,无法证明有投票权。所以如果要有公民身份 ID 才能投票
,必须

: 靠护照或出生证明,... 阅读全帖

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首先,拜托你们不要一讲到 voter ID 就阴谋论,说民主党故意阻挠好让非法移民投票
云云。这种毫无证据的动机诛心论,活脱脱就是红卫兵批斗大会的做法。
其次,我已经在多个帖子里说了,voter ID 的困难是很多有资格投票的美国人很难证
明他们的身份,这是实际执行的问题。如果一定要执行,恐怕会造成反淘汰。现在有
34 个州需要某种 ID 才能投票,如果你去看看这些 requirement,就会发现要不是那
种 ID 不能有效证明身份、要不就是又特意开了些后门,使得其效果打折扣。这是没办
法的事,这是美国选举历史所造成的历史遗留问题,不要搞阴谋论。
其实我觉得要考虑的是:
究竟是因为不需要 voter ID 而得以钻空子的非法移民人数多?还是因为要求 voter
ID 造成的错误淘汰人数多?两害相权取其轻。
l****z
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【 以下文字转载自 USANews 讨论区 】
发信人: lczlcz (lcz), 信区: USANews
标 题: NAACP Tells Voter ID Protesters They Must Have ID to Join Protest
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Feb 11 13:55:08 2014, 美东)
NAACP Tells Voter ID Protesters They Must Have ID to Join Protest
February 10, 2014 by Warner Todd Huston
Remember this: having to have an ID to vote is raaaacist. But apparently,
having to have an ID to join a protest about voter ID is… not? That is what
the NAACP decided this month in Raleigh, North Carolina.
Blogger Siste... 阅读全帖
l**1
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来自主题: Military版 - Korean-American Voters for Obama (转载)
【 以下文字转载自 USANews 讨论区 】
发信人: Jumpo (Jumpo), 信区: USANews
标 题: Korean-American Voters for Obama
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Nov 6 10:51:34 2012, 美东)
http://newamericamedia.org/2012/09/korean-american-voters-for-o
The U.S. Asian American Law Enforcement Association polled 1,100 Asian-
Americans, and of the likely Korean voters, 59 percent said they support
Obama, while only 13 percent said they favor Republican challenger Mitt
Romney.
好像美籍少数裔中只有华人(尤其是华人白领)是强力支持Romney的。
T**********e
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After a week in which he hosted Saturday Night Live and stood center-stage
at a Republican debate, Donald Trump is surging among Republicans likely to
cast votes in the party’s presidential primary.
According to the five-day rolling Reuters/Ipsos presidential poll, Trump has
leapt some 17 percentage points among likely Republican voters since Nov. 6
, when he was essentially tied with Ben Carson at about 25 percent. Trump
now captures 42 percent of those voters while Carson has fallen off slight... 阅读全帖
D**s
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【 以下文字转载自 USANews 讨论区 】
发信人: dramawatcher (狗蛋大), 信区: USANews
标 题: 85% of Muslim voters picked Obama 2012 and 2008
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Jul 1 14:31:46 2016, 美东)
More than 85 percent of American Muslim voters picked President Obama in
November 6, 2012 election, according to an exit poll released by the Council
on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), the nation’s leading Muslim civil
rights and advocacy organization. It may be recalled that a similar CAIR
exit poll in 2008 showed that 89 percent of ... 阅读全帖
g********d
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Poll: Rhode Island Voters Support Marriage Equality
By Advocate.com Editors
Rhode Islandx390 (Photos.com) | Advocate.com
A majority of Rhode Island voters support marriage rights for same-sex
couples, according to a new poll.
The study, released on Wednesday by Rhode Island Marriage Coalition, found
that of 502 voters polled, 59% said they supported giving same-sex couples
the right to marry — a 10% increase in support for marriage equality in the
state compared to a 2008 poll on the issue.
"Thi
g********d
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AP-GfK Poll: Likely voters ready to embrace GOP
WASHINGTON – All signs point to huge Republican victories in two weeks,
with the GOP now leading Democrats on virtually every measure in an
Associated Press-GfK poll of people likely to vote in the first major
elections of Barack Obama's presidency.
In the final survey before Election Day, likely voters say the GOP would do
a better job than Democrats on handling the economy, creating jobs and
running the government.
Most also think the country's h... 阅读全帖
l****z
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Sunday, 01 Jan 2012 09:00 AM
The volatile Republican presidential race in Iowa will come down to which
way an enormous chunk of undecided voters breaks in the coming days.
With the first-in-the-nation voting of the 2012 race for the White House
looming Tuesday, Mitt Romney is contending for victory in a state that
eluded him four years ago, while Rick Santorum — a hero among social
conservatives — surges and libertarian-leaning Ron Paul slides in a contest
that remains incredibly fluid.
With man... 阅读全帖
C*******r
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答案很简单:便于利用非法移民造假票。其实voter id能给合法选民带来什么麻烦呢?
很多州领取voter id都是免费的,即使有点费用,也就20块钱,街头要饭的,车窗打开
给20块钱的都很常见,算什么大的费用呢?而且,民主党不是喜欢搞草根运动,大选前
鼓动选民去办ID,甚至用大客车载选民去办ID不就行了?
民主党反对voter id的答案是什么呢?就是要造假票。试想想,民主党公开违反法律,
把非法移民提到合法移民前面来。连自己制定的法律都十分蔑视,算什么民主呢?不过
是暴民政治罢了。所以民主党应该改名暴民党更合适。
l****z
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NAACP Tells Voter ID Protesters They Must Have ID to Join Protest
February 10, 2014 by Warner Todd Huston
Remember this: having to have an ID to vote is raaaacist. But apparently,
having to have an ID to join a protest about voter ID is… not? That is what
the NAACP decided this month in Raleigh, North Carolina.
Blogger Sister Toldjah has the story of the “Moral March” that the NAACP
is organizing in Raleigh intended to denounce all sort of racist things in
the US today, one of which is voter ID... 阅读全帖
T*********I
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来自主题: USANews版 - SC GOP voters prefer Trump, Carson
COLUMBIA
Most S.C. Republican primary voters want a president with no prior elected
political experience, according to a new poll released Tuesday to The State.
A Public Policy Polling survey found Donald Trump would win 37 percent of
the vote from S.C. Republicans and Ben Carson would pick up 21 percent. The
rest of the crowded GOP field of 17 candidates was struggling in the single
digits.
Trump dominated other GOP candidates in one-on-one match-ups — except for
Carson. The soft-spoken, retire... 阅读全帖
m****s
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Many Trump voters are Reagan democRATS.
Trump taunted he brought voter increase to GOP
And all the media/press agreed
And they even pointed out that while GOP voter turnouts increased . The
democRATs side have decreased.
Well. Dumbass. Because those democRATS went to vote "republican front runner"
Bloomberg is democRATs
Trump is democRATs
Kasich is democRATs
Marco to some extent is also RATs
GOP is so messed up. It's now a ticket to RIDE.
x****d
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GOP presidential candidate Ted Cruz tells The Brody File that the reason
Donald Trump is performing well in the GOP race for president is because his
voters are uninformed and not engaged in the process. “Donald does well
with voters who have relatively low information, who are not that engaged
and who are angry and they see him as an angry voice. Where we are beating
him is when voters’ get more engaged and they get more informed.” Hunch:
I’m thinking Trump and his “Silent Majority” may push b... 阅读全帖
t******r
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2007: Seth Rich works on Ben Nelson campaign for Senate as assistant field
coordinator https://www.linkedin.com/in/sethrich1
2004-2007: Jane Fleming is Executive Director for Young Democrats of America
http://docs.house.gov/meetings/IF/IF17/20130919/101321/HHRG-113-IF17-Bio-KleebJ-20130919.pdf
2006: Scott Kleeb is running for Nebraska's 3rd Congr. Seat, beaten by
Republicans due to GWBush visit in the district and robo-calls https://en.
wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Kleeb
2007: Scott Kleeb marries Ja... 阅读全帖
g********2
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August 26, 2016
Americans Affirm Voter ID Laws
By Jan LaRue
If photo ID laws are the bane to minority voting rights that leftists and
assorted federal judges claim, you’d expect the public to agree. Not even
close.
Eighty percent of Americans, white and nonwhite across party lines support
photo ID laws, according to a Gallup poll taken Aug. 15-16:
Nonwhite: 77%
Republicans: 93%
Independents: 83%
Democrats: 63%
Last July, the U.S. 5th Circuit Court of Appeals held t... 阅读全帖
S***E
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八年前的总统选举NPR说了一句实话,根本没有多少undecided voters。媒体之所以渲
染undecided voters的重要性,是因为如果实实在在按照decided voters报道,根本不
新鲜,新闻没人看。
b****n
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来自主题: USANews版 - PA recount的voter initiated 难度
PA要想重数,要么去上诉庭申请,陈列作弊证据,要么让voter自己申请。鸡儿的网站
说准备用后面这个途径。
这个难吗?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/cdn.relaymedia.com/amp/billypenn.com/2016/11/23
/a-pennsylvania-recount-for-hillary-clinton-a-nightmare-scenario-explained/?
client=safari
这里说Voters can initiate a recount by having three voters from a voting
district in question petition the county and ask for a recount. Coordinating
that statewide would be nearly impossible.
为什么呢?每个选区找三个西婆支持者难道不是轻而易举的事情吗?
t*****e
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来自主题: USANews版 - PA recount的voter initiated 难度
每个选区少的几百人多的两三千人,你说宾州一共有几个选区?并不是所有选区都能找
到3个希粉在明天file petition。 传统说法是宾州由费城匹兹堡和阿拉巴马组成。
[在 biowsn (WSN) 的大作中提到:]
:PA要想重数,要么去上诉庭申请,陈列作弊证据,要么让voter自己申请。鸡儿的网站
:说准备用后面这个途径。
:这个难吗?
:https://www.google.com/amp/s/cdn.relaymedia.com/amp/billypenn.com/2016/11/
23/a-pennsylvania-recount-for-hillary-clinton-a-nightmare-scenario-explained
/?client=safari
:这里说Voters can initiate a recount by having three voters from a voting
:district in question petition the county and ask for a recount.
Coordinating that stat... 阅读全帖
p*****n
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来自主题: USANews版 - Trump提出voter fraud是对的
完全同意。
Trump 虽然大嘴,其实内心很有谱。一定是有确切的内部调查发现这些州大规模 voter
fraud.
记得当时 trump 说 poll 是 rigged, 左逼媒体一片嘲笑,几乎是天天在嘲笑。 trump
说有 shy trump voter, 有个左逼大媒体,好像是 Washington Post, 专门写文章说
为什么不存在 shy trump voter, 用了个 海市蜃楼这个词。现在回看,这些媒体都在
一片胡言。

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可以给这个阴谋论者大大地打一记耳光。
Voter fraud 新闻重点有两个:川普坚称有三到五百万的 fraud,而且所有这些人都不
是投给他。
他一再引述 Pew report 里的几百万的数字,但人家明确地说是川普搞错了数字的意思
。这家伙是个阴谋论者,偏执狂,自以为逮到小辫子了,殊不知马上就要出丑了。现在
且看川普幕僚能不能救驾,能不能把他拉回理性世界。
Director of Pew study cited by Trump: Voter fraud just doesn't happen
http://www.cnn.com/video/data/3.0/video/politics/2017/01/25/trump-voter-fraud-investigation-abc-news-muir-becker-intvu-tsr-bts.cnn/index.xml

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这个智商不在服务区吗??? lmao。。。。。。
老川现在是总统。。。。。。查voter fraud又不是为recount改变选举结果。。。。。。
即使是老川的支持者voter fraud也没有任何关系。。。。。。
重点是推voter id law。。。。。。
S*******h
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州长Greg Abbot表示欣慰
The U.S. Department of Justice confirmed Monday it plans to ditch its
longstanding position that Texas lawmakers purposefully discriminated
against minority voters by passing the nation’s strictest voter
identification law in 2011.
https://www.texastribune.org/2017/02/27/voter-id-case-trumps-team-drops-
argument-against-texas/

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Fraud: CBS News Discovers Hundreds of Dead Voters in Greater Los Angeles
A comparison of records by David Goldstein, investigative reporter for CBS2/
KCAL9, has revealed hundreds of so-called dead voters in Southern California
, a vast majority of them in Los Angeles County. “He took a lot of time
choosing his candidates,” said Annette Givans of her father, John Cenkner.
Cenkner died in Palmdale in 2003. Despite this, records show that he somehow
voted from the grave in 2004, 2005, 2006, 2008 an... 阅读全帖

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Veritas Voter Fraud Compilation - #VoterFraudIsReal
https://youtu.be/rCldQRaPXwo
CAUGHT ON HIDDEN CAM: Election Laws Being Broken in North Philly
https://youtu.be/ccD-uvriXLI
Reverends in Gary, IN: We “Tell Them Who to Vote For”
https://youtu.be/-zV2GdctaKU
Rigging the Election - Video I: Clinton Campaign and DNC Incite Violence at
Trump Rallies
https://youtu.be/5IuJGHuIkzY
Rigging the Election - Video II: Mass Voter Fraud
https://youtu.be/hDc8PVCvfKs
James OKeefe Offered a Bus Load of Ballots i... 阅读全帖
g***c
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今天一个评论员在meet the press里又重提了这个观点。
其实川普voter早就知道现在的华盛顿,川普也做不了啥
但只要川普继续爆操左逼,往死里搞左逼,川普voter就会继续支持川普。
无论如何,总比选上西婆,爆操川普voter好。
i******d
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San Francisco reportedly spent $310,000 on a new registration system aimed
at getting non-citizens to cast votes in school board elections.
The program resulted in 49 new voters, which turned out to cost the city $6,
326 each, The San Francisco Chronicle reported. The paper called the effort
“pretty much a bust the first time out.”
Local officials suggest residents who might otherwise consider registering
are worried the Trump administration would learn their identities.
The voters are only able... 阅读全帖
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哪只眼睛看我骂阴谋论了?voter ID现在是有不足比如很多人是公民,但没有ID,所以
不能投票。我并没有否认这个情况啊。但这不是不需要voter ID的理由,而是要改进申
请ID的工作。
坐飞机需要ID,为了安全。没ID的人不能坐飞机。是不是要废掉这个规定呢?
规定公民才能投票,是世界通例,虽然我不保证100%的国家。原因是领导人选举如同国
土完整,是根本国本之一,外国人不可参与。相比起有一部分公民不能投票的坏处,被
外国人投票影响选举,是更大的风险。所以这样的法律,宁可保守,不能给外国人开口
子。

:哈哈哈!问题就在于你们议论来议论去,全都是在骂左逼的阴谋论,根本没人讨论到
如何改进voter ID。就像我说的,这里有实际困难,但就没见你们一个人触及此,全都
是在妖魔化、阴谋论地发泄。

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没说你,说的是你们。
“voter ID现在是有不足比如很多人是公民,但没有ID。。。但这不是不需要
voter ID
的理由”
这正是现在反对 Voter ID 的一大理由。现在有 34 个州需要某种 ID,但恐怕都有缺
陷,恐怕都有好端端的美国人被排除在外,或者坏端端的非美国人钻空投票。
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_ID_laws_in_the_United_States
l***x
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本来就是啊,有问题就解决问题,而不是把voter id否决掉。不管用voter id还是什么
id,都要有一个证明公民身份的方法。如果不能证明公民身份,那就不能选举。如果你
id丢了,不能坐飞机,那没办法啊。短期只能认倒霉,长期就要解决公民身份认定的问
题。政策不就是这么进步的吗。哪能说,现在有问题,我们就不搞了。
如果不改进voter id的问题,那就只能随便来人投票,这还是主权国家吗?
d*******p
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无法证明公民身份的真公民极其稀少,用midwife接生而不是医院的现在已经几乎不存
在了,有这种状况的基本都是很老的老头老太,证明他们的身份并不难,人证物证都会
有很多
除了midwife接生的,其他人证明自己公民身份要不就是出生纸,要不就是入籍纸,没
什么难的。
其实搞national voter id就沿用现在发护照的程序就好了,甚至直接用护照卡当voter
id用,然后极少数出不起钱的申请单独voter id,免费,但是不能用于北美陆地旅行
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来自主题: USANews版 - Voter Identification laws worldwide
看胸评价下民主大国的voter suppression把
India
The Indian voter ID card is an identity document issued by the Election
Commission of India to adult domiciles of India who have reached the age of
18, which primarily serves as an identity proof for Indian citizens while
casting their ballot in the country's municipal, state, and national
elections. It also serves as general identity, address, and age proof for
other purposes such as buying a mobile phone SIM card or applying for a
passport. It also serves as ... 阅读全帖
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【 以下文字转载自 NewYork 讨论区 】
发信人: onetiemyshoe (onetiemyshoe), 信区: NewYork
标 题: 转自AAV:辟谣选民登记,选举免受欺负 Voter Registration Debun (转载)
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Apr 14 18:02:49 2014, 美东)
发信人: onetiemyshoe (onetiemyshoe), 信区: CivilSociety
标 题: 转自AAV:辟谣选民登记,选举免受欺负 Voter Registration Debun (转载)
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Apr 14 18:01:51 2014, 美东)
发信人: svca (SVCA), 信区: SanFrancisco
标 题: 转自AAV:辟谣选民登记,选举免受欺负 Voter Registration Debunked
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Apr 14 17:20:30 2014, 美东)
登记做选民,行使公民投票的权利,是我们美国华人保护自身群体和争取权益的最有力
工... 阅读全帖
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【 以下文字转载自 NewYork 讨论区 】
发信人: onetiemyshoe (onetiemyshoe), 信区: NewYork
标 题: 转自AAV:辟谣选民登记,选举免受欺负 Voter Registration Debun (转载)
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Apr 14 18:02:49 2014, 美东)
发信人: onetiemyshoe (onetiemyshoe), 信区: CivilSociety
标 题: 转自AAV:辟谣选民登记,选举免受欺负 Voter Registration Debun (转载)
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Apr 14 18:01:51 2014, 美东)
发信人: svca (SVCA), 信区: SanFrancisco
标 题: 转自AAV:辟谣选民登记,选举免受欺负 Voter Registration Debunked
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Apr 14 17:20:30 2014, 美东)
登记做选民,行使公民投票的权利,是我们美国华人保护自身群体和争取权益的最有力
工... 阅读全帖
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Dear All,
Hope you're having a nice weekend. The Chinese-American Voters Federation is
seeking volunteers to help out with their voter registration drive during t
he Dragon Boat Festival on August 7 and/or 8, at Flushing Meadows Corona Par
k. A letter of participation will be written. Lunch and beverages will also
be provided.
Please pass this message on to others who might be interested. For more deta
ils, please contact Virgina Wong, President of the Voters Federation, at con
t******[email protected]
o**********e
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【 以下文字转载自 NewYork 讨论区 】
发信人: onetiemyshoe (onetiemyshoe), 信区: NewYork
标 题: 转自AAV:辟谣选民登记,选举免受欺负 Voter Registration Debun (转载)
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Apr 14 18:02:49 2014, 美东)
发信人: onetiemyshoe (onetiemyshoe), 信区: CivilSociety
标 题: 转自AAV:辟谣选民登记,选举免受欺负 Voter Registration Debun (转载)
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Apr 14 18:01:51 2014, 美东)
发信人: svca (SVCA), 信区: SanFrancisco
标 题: 转自AAV:辟谣选民登记,选举免受欺负 Voter Registration Debunked
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Apr 14 17:20:30 2014, 美东)
登记做选民,行使公民投票的权利,是我们美国华人保护自身群体和争取权益的最有力
工... 阅读全帖
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州长Greg Abbot表示欣慰
The U.S. Department of Justice confirmed Monday it plans to ditch its
longstanding position that Texas lawmakers purposefully discriminated
against minority voters by passing the nation’s strictest voter
identification law in 2011.
https://www.texastribune.org/2017/02/27/voter-id-case-trumps-team-drops-
argument-against-texas/
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