p**********1
发帖数: 1458 | 1 in order to break even with QQ, villain need to shove 100%, which does not
happen often in a two-dollar game. even KK is -EV if villain only shove
about 40%. KK break even when villain shove 60%+. |
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M********g
发帖数: 717 | 2 why everyone wants to fold the second hand? Would the villain raise boat or
nut flush this strong? Given MM laoshi's betbetbet image, villain expects
mm laoshi has a lot of weak/air hand in his range. so i suspect villain has
some weird hand like a4/a5/a6/a7 with nut flush draw. |
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 3 any body help?
EV --- hero's last shoving EV
x --- villain's fold equity
P --- pot before hero last shove
L --- villain's equity after shoving
W --- hero's quity after shoving, L+W = 1
H --- total pot after villain calls hero's shove
V --- hero's shove size
EV = xP + (1-x)(-LV + WH) --- this one has issue
I think, it should be
EV = xP + (1-x)(WH - V)
correct me if I am wrong. |
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 4 wow! thank you for using my odds calculation app.
Just my 2 c, you have only 33% equity after committing the pot, which is
obviously losing the money.
However, the precondition is villain called your shove (0% fold equity).
But in real world, especially live 1/2, the fold equity varies from 0%~100%
depended on your image and villains' level.
That's why, on seeing your question, I don't really know how to answer in
first place.
I myself sometimes also shove with NUTS in similar situation when I a... 阅读全帖 |
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 5 villain is a tag,
if set filter "vs villain"
the stats is definitely not 42/16
that is what i said, your play depends on villain |
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P******y
发帖数: 55 | 6 大家的回复跟预想的比较一致 实际情况是I snap call, villain showed 57h, Qd
came on the turn, but unfortunately I didn't hit any of the ~19 outs on the
river. hero, the original chip leader, dropped down to below avg and villain
(second in chip before this hand) became the leader.
其实这相对而言是一个easy call尤其是在cash game或者late stage tourney (in the
money),我把这手牌放出来还是想跟大家探讨一下选手Stack和Tourney的进程对这手牌
分析的影响。
首先这个MTT是三天的日程包括三个day 1，这手牌是在level 5. UTG+1选手比较nitty
，stack也较浅，不到20k，preflop raising 4bb and leading out pot size (1/3 of
hi... 阅读全帖 |
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M********g
发帖数: 717 | 7 I think shove there is so risky. The original pot was still small.
Hero's raise was very strong. Since villain holds pair+draw, most of the
time hero have strong made hand. And given villain called first, he could be
easily put on draw or pair+draw. The shove got called at least 80%+ of the
time. And once got called, villain at best had 45% equity.
I guess it might be a slightly +ev play, but given the huge variance, i
would pass.
yes |
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p******a
发帖数: 975 | 8 Yeah, I didn't post all the information about the villain, since that's too
much and not relevant to the topic. As long as you know villain is very good
in 3b pot (so I didn't 3b preflop), that's good enough.
Again, this post is not about optimizing the play in this pot (which is
highly based on villain's and my image, thus won't be too helpful either to
you or to me even if I post here), it's about "make mistakes when they are
cheap".
Thanks for your remind about the ego problem. It is very dan... 阅读全帖 |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 9 ------>to be honest, this is not a good choice, since the villain leverages
us. If we played this way, we only will put our money into bad situation.
The result is kind of winning small, lose big.
position.
If villain's 3bet range is polarized, I think usually we will break even on
this kind of call.
If villain's 3bet range is depolarized, I do not know exactly, but will
guess I will lose some money on average. option is donk big on the flop.
For this perticular hand, I guess I will lose big in... 阅读全帖 |
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 10 nl100 6max
面对未知loose passive的对手，hero形象正常，梢凶,effective stack 100bb。
btn limp
hero at sb open 4bb with KQo, villain bb call, btn call
flop K69 two suits, pot 12bb, hero 8bb cbet, villain call, btn fold
turn K added another flush draw, pot 28bb, hero 17bb 2nd barrel, villain
call
river 2, no flush, hero pot size shove
哥当时是想从weak K上最大化value，所以pot size第三barrel，但是仔细想想能value
到的hand其实未必比能beat哥牌的hand多，与其这样，还不如bet个1/3，把weak hand
全不勾进来，外加induce bluff
元芳，你怎么看 |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 12 Poker Stars $25.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - [url=http://www.handconverter.com/hands/2351050]View hand 2351050[/url]
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BTN: $70.17 - VPIP: 28, PFR: 17, 3B: 25, AF: 1.0, Hands: 36
SB: $19.90 - VPIP: 34, PFR: 15, 3B: 4, AF: 1.0, Hands: 85
BB: $28.59 - VPIP: 16, PFR: 12, 3B: 3, AF: 3.2, Hands: 566
UTG: $16.72 - VPIP: 9, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, H... 阅读全帖 |
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 13 "Hero is pretty sure BTN didn't have straight, set, or two pair. Hero put
him on over pair. "
Villain never jam on turn with monster? Villain has narrow range even on BTN
? Villain overplay his overpair no matter who he against?
please explain |
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p****0
发帖数: 611 | 14 2/5 live, full table. Hero had stack of 600ish. Villain just sit down for
couple hands. Villain bluffed once and failed. This hand hero had 55 at UTG
. Limed in. LP raised to 15, 4 caller including villain at MP, BTN, BB and
hero.
Flop 622r, hero led out 45, MP called. Turn 7, hero check, MP led out 100,
hero?
Hero called the turn in fact. Should hero call, fold or raise at turn?
River 8, hero check, MP led out 175, hero?
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s*****s
发帖数: 1130 | 15 来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - 昨天一手牌 well, the point of playing strong draw fast is not to flip coin with villain
's strong hand. The profit comes from forcing villain to fold their weak
hand. Villain could donk bet with who knows what he has.
have
odds
again |
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p****0
发帖数: 611 | 16 昨天晚上又玩了一个session。3小时up400. 说走就走.stacked chip and said good
night to everybody and gone home. Feels good.
新鲜出炉的我认为比较有意思的几手牌。
Hand 1: Hero had stack of 300ish. Villain is at MP had stack of 300ish. MP
is TAG, we had a lot history hands. MP folded his big hand in one session
against me (he folded his Asks on the flop of AQsJs against my all in with
KT!).
Hero was dealt A9o at BTN. 5 way limped pot. Flop Ad8d4s. MP led out 18.
Hero called. Heads up. Turn 7h. MP led out 30. Hero called. Rive... 阅读全帖 |
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 17
1 villain is not fish
2 villain's line rep a TPGK+ strength but small chance of straight. A9o here
is behind most of his range
3 if villain made straight on turn, then his turn/river betting size is not
good. if he has a five and made straight on river, then his river betting
size is not good either. To me, <50% chance he has a straight
4 when you reraise shove, you rep a five. the possibility that you have a
five is big, such as a5, 5dXd,more than 20 combos you could have here. The
risk for hi... 阅读全帖 |
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w***w
发帖数: 6301 | 18 villain这么打法很多人都会来bluff他。太weak了。有什么理由flop拿着nuts flush
and straight draw 会fold？live里多数人光一个flush draw就会call。
说到这副牌，我如果是villain多半会call。这是因为hero前面只是call，这个
straight draw 是runner runner出来的,so hero had very small chance to get a
straight， if I were villain, I would read hero was behind on turn.plus,I
would read hero's image that he could go bluff on river in this situation.
nuts |
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n***a
发帖数: 274 | 19 Decent LAG, big winner the night, walked away with ~$2000 (in the picture)
open >40% pre
Hero: TAG, not playing many hands
1/3
LAG MP open 12, hero MP+1 3 bet to 25 w/ AhJd, BB call, LAG call
flop: JT7hh
BB check, villain quickly lead 75, hero tank call
turn: 9h
villain quickly push hero all in for ~190, hero?
这张照片亮点多,除了villain的stack,还有可怜的shortstack AA,没有拿到100$ AA
cracked bonus |
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p****0
发帖数: 611 | 20 So many hands can beat you:
set,two pair, over pair, made pair-with-straight-draw, made pair-with-flush-
draw, made
straight draw, or made flush draw. All could be in villain's range.
Only hand you can win is villain bluffing with air, baby pair, or top pair
good kicker.
And villain seems like running good whole night. So 跪吧。 |
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p****0
发帖数: 611 | 21 Full 1/2 table. Hero had stack of 500ish. Villain had stack of 400ish.
Table was tight. So hero selectively play loose. Raise size is almost
always around $12. Villain is a tight player. No history before.
Short after hero doubled up with set of T on the flop of AT9hhh against A9,
hero had AJo at UTG+1 led out 12. Villain at BB 3-bet to 36 (the only time
he 3-bet once hero sit down). Hero tank and called. Hero knew BB had big
pair. But still called, want to see the flop and reevaluate. ... 阅读全帖 |
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n***a
发帖数: 274 | 22 不是说了么
"Two biggest mistakes
Try to lay down ur villain's overpair 和try to lay down ur own bottom set "
你怎么知道villain知道你知道villain是overpair？ |
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 23 i say it depends
if villain is kinda tight and very aggressive post flop, it is a no brain
fold for me here.
if villain is kinda loose and not that sticky to every pot, calling here is
not bad.
if villain has high % of open/fold against squeeze, squeezing here is also
feasible.
absolute hand strength is nothing comparing with relative hand strength/
position/stack size/table dynamic etc, especially for those hands between 5%
to 30% |
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p******e
发帖数: 327 | 24 2. Money bubble hand by hand play: Hero just joined a new table for 1 round
and didn't play a hand yet. Villain is a young gun and plays well as I can
tell.
UTG with over 40BB raised to 2.xBB.
Villain (~50BB stack) at CO called.
Hero (~22BB stack) at SB with 88 raised to 6.xBB.
UTG fold. Villain all in.
Is that definitely a fold here for hero? |
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n***a
发帖数: 274 | 25 Hero is risking $31 to win a $51 pot, while offering villain an odds of $16
to win $82.
imoh, unless hero has a ton of history with this villain, personally I'd
think there's not enough fe to make this play profitable.
Personally if I were the villain, I'd float with a lot of hands to this 4-
bet. And almost all hands if I chose to min 3-bet with. |
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p****0
发帖数: 611 | 26 Villain is a good aggressive player. We both Know how each other plays. Both
have deep stack, more than 500bb.
Hero hold K4s raised to 12 at LP. 4 way pot including villain at SB. Flop
KK7 w/ two diamonds. Check to hero. Hero c-bet 20, SB called. Turn blank,
both check. River K, no flush board. SB led out 80, hero ?
Villain's flat on the flop put me on face cards, pair, flush draw, air, or
Kx. I put him on packet pair. So turn I checked to trap. Also to control
the pot in case he has K too. ... 阅读全帖 |
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p****0
发帖数: 611 | 27 要不要 raise to 350ish？ 如果这样对手会不会fold？ 这是我的思路。
其实这手牌我是Villain， 对手是hero。 At flop I was on K high flush draw,
turn made flush. On the river, I blocking bet 30, but seems like villain
didn't get it. He still river bet 350，让我错误估计他想take down the pot 而
不是over size value bet。 Villain's river bet got paid off.
我是不是想太多，把自己给绕进去了？ |
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p****0
发帖数: 611 | 28 S神的light raise is a good play in my opinion. Why, he explained it in post
10 already. The other thing I would comment is giving S神 image, villain
will put him on a very wide range. So any two cards can shove against his
light raise. In fact, I think Villain already made his mind to bluff S神
before flop. But unfortunately, this time S神 had second nuts. Good play for
S神 to leverage his own image.
On the other side, villain's play is also ok giving S神 stack size. Long
time against player like ... 阅读全帖 |
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q****8
发帖数: 3281 | 29 Nothing wrong with both plays, standard call and instant raise. Regs do not
often raise with TP+ in this situation at NL400. That's why villain
interprets scripps' raise as air or draw. This is actually a leveling war,
and in this hand, scripps is one-level higher than villain.
Villain's only mistake is 4-bet size way too small. Nobody would fold to
this size with 200bb IP. |
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s*****s
发帖数: 1130 | 30 It is hard to say. If both Villain and I play by the book, he has to have
two pairs plus. Because of my style, some villains could counter with more
aggression than they normally do and/or overplay his hand strength. That is
why it is harder for me to fold a good hand.
For this hand, I was a little surprised that he has KJ. There are villains
who could call me down three streets to all in with KJ, but check raise and
then bet to all in usually come from AJ not KJ. |
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 31 online tourney 215 usd buyin，20k garanteed，first place around 6k，9th
place around 1k
in the money，19 players left
hero stack 55bb, position 4/19
villain stack 47bb, position 6/19
chips leader stack around 70bb, in other words, first tier players have
close stack size
bunch of short stacks in the table as well
both hero and villain have 500 hands history, and know each other as normal
reg, did not c any move out of line
here is the hand
hero MP with TT, (tight image) open 2bb, fold to bb villain... 阅读全帖 |
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 32
本来想卖个关子，木有想到 nit you are amazing!
顺雷不及掩耳盗铃之势 猜出villain是misclick，太神了，以后干脆叫你 尼神
话说，赶紧来参加home game啊
这手牌，hero想了两分钟, call....
villain showed Q8o, and TT holds
哥就是villain，这尼玛哥的215之路，不停地出状况，万年min cash啊有木有！
BANKROLL 快撑不住了啊 有木有
lesson learned:
1 when getting deep in online tournament, shut down any Video Stream／web
page, pls focus!
2 when adding note to any player on the table, move the note window out of
BETTING BUTTONS AREA!
3 不要在自己不熟悉的环境中(e.g. company office/friend's home) play any real
cash game |
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x**j
发帖数: 1261 | 33 来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - 昨天一把牌 Tournament final 5. 我是small blind 4k，stack 30K 多，是五个人里最少的，起手
AK off suit。上盘我左边的all in，villain call了，villain输了好多，这盘
villain utg all in，ugt +1 +2都合了，我该call吗？
★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 1.0.2
★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 1.0.2 |
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p****0
发帖数: 611 | 34 Whats your image to him?
I'm not a big fun folding here on the river. one possible line is that he
was on draw or combo draw and river missed. Showdown value hands would've
check/call on river. If he had monster, no reason to push you out on river
unless he knew you like made hero call. As you said, you two don't have too
much history. Facing unknown villain, this line looks weird.
Or villain had special read on you, knew you had big pair or AK and he
flopped two pairs+, was trying to get maxi... 阅读全帖 |
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s*******3
发帖数: 56 | 35 villain 后面还有130多的筹码， 我想的是 假如我check call， river上 任何
picture card 都会free action。 J or Q会让我 很难办， K or A 会freeze villain
的action， 在turn上进来， villain QQ 或者JJ fold 不掉了。。
但是 结果特别出乎我的意料， 我主要想 自己是哪个action 做错了。。。 |
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s*****r
发帖数: 1745 | 36 Good question.
Bonnie and Clyde are villain protagonists in the movie, just like Butch
Cassidy and The Sundance Kid, and all of them are notorious gangsters in
American History. The anti-protaganists in both movies are the law
enforcers.
Arthur Penn casted Faye Dunaway and Warren Beatty, just as George Roy Hill
casted Newman and Redford, both directors utilized actors of enormous
personal charms to glorify the villain characters in both movies, which
contributes to many audiences' great admiring... 阅读全帖 |
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b*s
发帖数: 82482 | 37 演戏就追求这个效果。果酱一开始说的House of Cards，就是很shakespearean：
Frank's breaking of the fourth wall parallels "Richard III": Some of
Shakespeare's characters break the fourth wall (they talk to the audience,
indicated in Shakespeare's plays with the reference Aside:), notably Richard
III and also Iago, the villain from "Othello." In many ways, this makes
characters that are, essentially, villains, much more palatable to the
audience. They say funny things and create a rapport with us. They make us
feel like t... 阅读全帖 |
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N****f
发帖数: 25759 | 38 说起Ralph Fiennes的经典作品，俺以为首屈一指的还是《Shindler's List》
里面的首席villain，SS Hauptsturmführer Amon Göth（a real-life
monster）。Wikipedia中有如下描述：
Fiennes earned an Academy Award nomination for Best Supporting
Actor, and his portrayal ranked 15 on AFI's list of the top 50 film
villains of all time. Notably, he ranks as the highest non-fiction
villain. When Mila Pfefferberg, a surviving Schindler Jew, was
introduced to Fiennes while on the set of the film, she began to
shake uncontrollably in terror, as Fien |
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G*********o
发帖数: 49669 | 39 看狼兄的帖子，就是一种至高无上的享受
品论的很到位，资料内容很翔实，
还有自己的观点和见解
可谓一部活的大百科全书。
说起Ralph Fiennes的经典作品，俺以为首屈一指的还是《Shindler's List》
里面的首席villain，SS Hauptsturmführer Amon Göth（a real-life
monster）。Wikipedia中有如下描述：
Fiennes earned an Academy Award nomination for Best Supporting
Actor, and his portrayal ranked 15 on AFI's list of the top 50 film
villains of all time. Notably, he ranks as the highest non-fiction
villain. When Mila Pfefferberg, a surviving Schindler Jew, was
introduced to Fiennes while on the set of th |
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c**********l
发帖数: 606 | 40 River: don't see why you bet the river into a very laggish/tricky guy.
always have a plan in case villain reraise/all-in when you bet: can you
confidently fold? if the answer is no, then better check and let the
villain lead.
river decisions are rarer than flop ones, but most costly.
since villain is very laggish, I would also consider 4-betting the flop to
1. charge the draws
2. show that you can't be pushed off your hand easily.
if he reraise all-in, you can fold here more confidently than af |
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R*****5
发帖数: 4915 | 42 he told me that he finally explained to the children how Mulan depicts us –
the Mongols
We were the Huns – the yellow-eyed, grey-skinned, long-haired, fur wearing
evil monsters
https://macongolia.com/2017/11/30/becoming-the-villain-a-mongol-american-
struggle-with-mulan/
来源
Becoming the Villain: A Mongol-American Struggle with Mulan
November 30, 2017 macongolia
Four years ago, my nephew and niece, at the time aged ten and six
respectively, saw Disney’s animated film Mulan. They gleefully watc... 阅读全帖 |
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W*****B
发帖数: 4796 | 43 活该，蒙古人当年对欧亚大陆人民灭绝人性的种族屠杀，空前绝后。本来按照他们所犯
的反人类罪行是应该整体灭族的。现在让他们活着已经是恩赐了，还唧唧歪歪什么？
：he told me that he finally explained to the children how Mulan depicts us
– the Mongols
：We were the Huns – the yellow-eyed, grey-skinned, long-haired, fur
wearing evil monsters
：https://macongolia.com/2017/11/30/becoming-the-villain-a-mongol-american-
：struggle-with-mulan/
：来源
：Becoming the Villain: A Mongol-American Struggle with Mulan
：November 30, 2017 macongolia
：Four years ago, my nephew and niece, at the tim... 阅读全帖 |
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n********d
发帖数: 7676 | 45 恭喜川粉。“‘MODAAK’ is our most vulgar, callous, evil villain yet, and he
’s totally based on the tyrant Donald Trump,” Lee confirmed. “MODAAK,
which is an acronym for ‘Mental Organism Designed As America’s King,’ has
zero redeeming qualities,” said the 95-year-old Lee, before he went to the
superhero heaven in the sky. “I wanted MODAAK to be our most despicable
villain yet, and instructed Marvel artist Jason Latour to give him not only
a golden hue, but the evil, racist, small handed, small-minded q... 阅读全帖 |
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d*****1
发帖数: 8618 | 46 【 以下文字转载自 TexasHoldem 讨论区 】
发信人: cmis91 (dontknow), 信区: TexasHoldem
标 题: 我是如何拿下Poker Stars周日百万赛冠军的
关键字: PokerStars SundayMillion 8202名参赛者 冠军$246K
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Nov 13 15:03:46 2010, 美东)
(pic. provided by fryking, lol)
First briefly describe the course how I reach the final table. At the very
beginning of tourney, I got double up over someone’s donkey move. After
that, my AA 3 bet preflop, villain call and hit bottom two pairs, we went
all in and fortunately I catched higher two pairs at r... 阅读全帖 |
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z****l
发帖数: 5282 | 47 ☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
Orpheus (Thou art a villain) 于 (Tue Jan 16 14:12:32 2007) 提到:
急需几k cash
但是我的checking account所在银行在这里没有分行
有什么方法能取出来呢?
据说ATM最多取500, advanced checking要交3%的手续费,
有没有更好的方法?
谢谢.在线等
☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
DrumMania (嫑跑，兲) 于 (Tue Jan 16 14:13:49 2007) 提到:
给自己写支票
☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
Orpheus (Thou art a villain) 于 (Tue Jan 16 14:14:11 2007) 提到:
能立刻兑现吗?
还是要等?
☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
AMEX (In Gold W |
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n*******y
发帖数: 3337 | 48 【 以下文字转载自 TexasHoldem 讨论区 】
发信人: cmis91 (dontknow), 信区: TexasHoldem
标 题: 我是如何拿下Poker Stars周日百万赛冠军的
关键字: PokerStars SundayMillion 8202名参赛者 冠军$246K
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Nov 13 15:03:46 2010, 美东)
(pic. provided by fryking, lol)
First briefly describe the course how I reach the final table. At the very
beginning of tourney, I got double up over someone’s donkey move. After
that, my AA 3 bet preflop, villain call and hit bottom two pairs, we went
all in and fortunately I catched higher two pairs at r... 阅读全帖 |
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V******n
发帖数: 881 | 49 just read an interesting article today
THE PAIN IS BACK
I’m doing alright today. Stocks are getting fucking hammered into puzzle
pieces. We’re at session lows right now; but I am okay, fully accepting
with a ‘calm normality’ that the reason why Fed’s Dudely is asking for a
series of rate hikes, after the obiovus December one, is because he’s a
villain, wholly consumed with destroying the world.
Janet Yellen took over a Bernanke Fed with one job: don’t fuck it up. Since
then, she’s done everythin... 阅读全帖 |
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n*******y
发帖数: 3337 | 50 【 以下文字转载自 TexasHoldem 讨论区 】
发信人: cmis91 (dontknow), 信区: TexasHoldem
标 题: 我是如何拿下Poker Stars周日百万赛冠军的
关键字: PokerStars SundayMillion 8202名参赛者 冠军$246K
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Nov 13 15:03:46 2010, 美东)
(pic. provided by fryking, lol)
First briefly describe the course how I reach the final table. At the very
beginning of tourney, I got double up over someone’s donkey move. After
that, my AA 3 bet preflop, villain call and hit bottom two pairs, we went
all in and fortunately I catched higher two pairs at r... 阅读全帖 |
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